Bush DOUBLE DIGIT Lead (Time)

[Big Train]

http://www.time.com/time/press_releases/article/0,8599,692562,00.html

TIME Poll: Among likely voters, 52% would vote for President George Bush, while 41% would vote for John Kerry and 3% would vote for Ralph Nader_

[ELVIS]

It's over Johnnie!

[jhale667]

Is the same true in any other polls? I haven't checked today, but last night CNN said they were still neck and neck...also there's the whole 'Covention Bounce' theory (which didn't happen for Kerry)...it'll be interesting to see.

[Satan]

Polls are bullshit. You will be sold the illusion of a close race from now until November so when the electro fraud equipped states deliver their "narrow victories" to Junior, nobody will question the theft.

[Big Train]

Spin it, Satan/Ford, spin it......

[ELVIS]

Originally posted by Satan
Polls are bullshit. You will be sold the illusion of a close race from now until November so when the electro fraud equipped states deliver their "narrow victories" to Junior, nobody will question the theft.

You're already predicting a stolen election ??

Get a fucking life!

Bush won Florida, and you know it...


:elvis:

[Viking]

And here's another fact being overlooked - those poll numbers are from before Bush gave his speech last night!

BOI-OI-OI-OI-NNNN-GGGGG................ :bananna:

:killer: :killer: :killer: :killer:

[ELVIS]

LMFAO!


:elvis:

[ELVIS]

..and he will get a considerable bounce...

:elvis:

[Big Train]

Posted by Jhale:

Is the same true in any other polls? I haven't checked today, but last night CNN said they were still neck and neck...also there's the whole 'Covention Bounce' theory (which didn't happen for Kerry)...it'll be interesting to see.


Well, let's see...

http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/09-04-2004/0002244238&EDATE=

Bush/Cheney Lead Kerry/Edwards 54 to 43 Percent; in a Three-Way Trial Heat,
Bush/Cheney Receive 13-Point Margin Bounce

Bush Approval Rating Rises to 52 Percent; First Time Above 50 Since January;
Majority (53%) Wants to See Him Re-Elected-Highest Since May 2003

27 Percent of Registered Voters Think Bush/Cheney Campaign Is Behind Swift
Boat Ads

NEW YORK, Sept. 4 /PRNewswire/ -- Immediately following the Republican
National Convention in New York, the latest Newsweek Poll shows that, in a
two-way presidential trial heat, the Bush/Cheney ticket would win over a
Kerry/Edwards ticket by 54 percent vs. 43 percent among registered voters. In
a three-way trial heat, including Green Party Candidate Ralph Nader, the
Bush/Cheney ticket would still win 52 percent to 41 percent for Kerry/Edwards
and 3 percent for Nader/Camejo among registered voters. That represents a
13-point margin bounce for Bush/Cheney since an August 5-10 poll conducted by
Princeton Survey Research Associates International for the Pew Research
Center.
And even though more Americans (49%) say they are dissatisfied with the
way things are going in the U.S. at this time (43% are satisfied), President
George W. Bush's approval rating has gone up to 52 percent, a seven-point
increase since the last Newsweek Poll (July 29-30), and the first time it's
topped 50 percent since January. Also 53 percent of registered voters say the
would like to see President Bush re-elected to another term. The last time a
majority of Americans wanted to see the president re-elected was May 2003.
In comparing the two presidential candidates, more registered voters think
President Bush has strong leadership qualities than Kerry (65% vs. 47%), is
more honest and ethical (62% vs. 47%), says what he believes and not just what
people want to hear (66% vs. 42%), would trust him to make the right decisions
during an international crisis (57% vs. 44%), shares their values (54% vs.
42%), and is personally likeable (67% vs. 59%). In addition, more registered
voters think President Bush would do a better job than Sen. Kerry on various
issues: terrorism and homeland security (60% vs. 32%), the situation in Iraq
(55% vs. 37%), foreign policy (54% vs. 38%), taxes (52% vs. 38%), economy (49%
vs. 43%), education (48% vs. 42%), and gay marriage (44% vs. 36%). More
people say Sen. Kerry would do a better job than President Bush on healthcare,
including Medicare (45% vs. 43%) and the environment (50% vs. 36%).
Two months before the election, more registered voters (28%) say terrorism
and homeland security is the most important issue in determining their vote.
Twenty-one percent say it's the economy, 13 percent say healthcare and only 11
percent say the situation in Iraq. On that subject, a majority of registered
voters (55%) think that the U.S. did the right thing in talking military
action in Iraq, though 50 percent say the war has not made Americans safer
from terrorism (45% think it has). And, among registered voters, 44 percent
think Saddam Hussein's regime was not directly involved in 9-11 (42% say it
was).
Despite the four-day convention, a strong 60-percent majority of
registered voters say they saw none of (32%) or very little (28%) coverage of
the RNC on television last week. Only 40 percent say they saw some of it
(24%) or a great deal (16%). And only 36 percent say they now have a more
favorable opinion of the Republican Party, with 27 percent saying they have a
less favorable opinion. Of Independents, 29 percent said they have a more
favorable opinion of the Republicans and 27 percent said less favorable.
Following the Democratic convention in July, 41 percent who said they had a
more favorable opinion of the Democrats. Only 24 percent said they had a less
favorable opinion. And of the 45 percent of registered voters who said they
watched all or part of the President's speech, 37 percent said they had a more
favorable opinion of him, while 18 percent said it was less favorable.
As to the presidential candidates' military service, though 75 percent of
registered voters say what they've seen or heard about Bush's military service
will not have much effect on their vote, and 62 percent say the same about
Kerry's military service in Vietnam, 75 percent of registered voters have seen
or heard about the recent TV Ads sponsored by a veterans' group questioning
Kerry's military record. And 21 percent say those ads are generally accurate.
Thirty-nine percent say they are misleading or distorted. Only 25 percent are
not aware of those ads. Twenty-seven percent of registered voters think the
Bush/Cheney campaign is behind the ads, while 38 percent think they were
produced independently. (However, 26 percent of military households who have
seen or heard about John Kerry's military record say they are less likely to
vote for him).
Looking ahead to the next presidential campaign, a majority of registered
voters (50%) said they would like to see former New York City Mayor Rudy
Giuliani run for president in 2008 (65% of Republicans), followed by Arizona
Sen. John McCain (48%, 47% of Republicans), and Arnold Schwarzenegger (22%,
30% of Republicans), if the Constitution were changed to allow foreign-born
U.S. citizens to run.
This poll is part of the September 13 issue of Newsweek (on newsstands
Monday, September 6). For this Newsweek Poll, Princeton Survey Research
Associates International interviewed 1,008 adults aged 18 and older on Sept.
2-3, 2004. The margin of error is plus or minus four percentage points.

[Wayne L.]

I predict George W. Bush will win re-election by 4 or 5 points against John Kerry in November because it's more about national security & the war on terrorism after 9/11 than Kerry being a Vietnam war hero while the Democrats have a better chance in 08.

[ELVIS]

Here's another...

Thirteen point lead !!! (http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/09-04-2004/0002244238&EDATE=)


Bush/Cheney Lead Kerry/Edwards 54 to 43 Percent; in a Three-Way Trial Heat,
Bush/Cheney Receive 13-Point Margin Bounce

Bush Approval Rating Rises to 52 Percent; First Time Above 50 Since January;
Majority (53%) Wants to See Him Re-Elected-Highest Since May 2003

27 Percent of Registered Voters Think Bush/Cheney Campaign Is Behind Swift
Boat Ads

NEW YORK, Sept. 4 /PRNewswire/ -- Immediately following the Republican
National Convention in New York, the latest Newsweek Poll shows that, in a
two-way presidential trial heat, the Bush/Cheney ticket would win over a
Kerry/Edwards ticket by 54 percent vs. 43 percent among registered voters. In
a three-way trial heat, including Green Party Candidate Ralph Nader, the
Bush/Cheney ticket would still win 52 percent to 41 percent for Kerry/Edwards
and 3 percent for Nader/Camejo among registered voters. That represents a
13-point margin bounce for Bush/Cheney since an August 5-10 poll conducted by
Princeton Survey Research Associates International for the Pew Research
Center.
And even though more Americans (49%) say they are dissatisfied with the
way things are going in the U.S. at this time (43% are satisfied), President
George W. Bush's approval rating has gone up to 52 percent, a seven-point
increase since the last Newsweek Poll (July 29-30), and the first time it's
topped 50 percent since January. Also 53 percent of registered voters say the
would like to see President Bush re-elected to another term. The last time a
majority of Americans wanted to see the president re-elected was May 2003.
In comparing the two presidential candidates, more registered voters think
President Bush has strong leadership qualities than Kerry (65% vs. 47%), is
more honest and ethical (62% vs. 47%), says what he believes and not just what
people want to hear (66% vs. 42%), would trust him to make the right decisions
during an international crisis (57% vs. 44%), shares their values (54% vs.
42%), and is personally likeable (67% vs. 59%). In addition, more registered
voters think President Bush would do a better job than Sen. Kerry on various
issues: terrorism and homeland security (60% vs. 32%), the situation in Iraq
(55% vs. 37%), foreign policy (54% vs. 38%), taxes (52% vs. 38%), economy (49%
vs. 43%), education (48% vs. 42%), and gay marriage (44% vs. 36%). More
people say Sen. Kerry would do a better job than President Bush on healthcare,
including Medicare (45% vs. 43%) and the environment (50% vs. 36%).
Two months before the election, more registered voters (28%) say terrorism
and homeland security is the most important issue in determining their vote.
Twenty-one percent say it's the economy, 13 percent say healthcare and only 11
percent say the situation in Iraq. On that subject, a majority of registered
voters (55%) think that the U.S. did the right thing in talking military
action in Iraq, though 50 percent say the war has not made Americans safer
from terrorism (45% think it has). And, among registered voters, 44 percent
think Saddam Hussein's regime was not directly involved in 9-11 (42% say it
was).
Despite the four-day convention, a strong 60-percent majority of
registered voters say they saw none of (32%) or very little (28%) coverage of
the RNC on television last week. Only 40 percent say they saw some of it
(24%) or a great deal (16%). And only 36 percent say they now have a more
favorable opinion of the Republican Party, with 27 percent saying they have a
less favorable opinion. Of Independents, 29 percent said they have a more
favorable opinion of the Republicans and 27 percent said less favorable.
Following the Democratic convention in July, 41 percent who said they had a
more favorable opinion of the Democrats. Only 24 percent said they had a less
favorable opinion. And of the 45 percent of registered voters who said they
watched all or part of the President's speech, 37 percent said they had a more
favorable opinion of him, while 18 percent said it was less favorable.
As to the presidential candidates' military service, though 75 percent of
registered voters say what they've seen or heard about Bush's military service
will not have much effect on their vote, and 62 percent say the same about
Kerry's military service in Vietnam, 75 percent of registered voters have seen
or heard about the recent TV Ads sponsored by a veterans' group questioning
Kerry's military record. And 21 percent say those ads are generally accurate.
Thirty-nine percent say they are misleading or distorted. Only 25 percent are
not aware of those ads. Twenty-seven percent of registered voters think the
Bush/Cheney campaign is behind the ads, while 38 percent think they were
produced independently. (However, 26 percent of military households who have
seen or heard about John Kerry's military record say they are less likely to
vote for him).
Looking ahead to the next presidential campaign, a majority of registered
voters (50%) said they would like to see former New York City Mayor Rudy
Giuliani run for president in 2008 (65% of Republicans), followed by Arizona
Sen. John McCain (48%, 47% of Republicans), and Arnold Schwarzenegger (22%,
30% of Republicans), if the Constitution were changed to allow foreign-born
U.S. citizens to run.
This poll is part of the September 13 issue of Newsweek (on newsstands
Monday, September 6). For this Newsweek Poll, Princeton Survey Research
Associates International interviewed 1,008 adults aged 18 and older on Sept.
2-3, 2004. The margin of error is plus or minus four percentage points.



:elvis:

[Warham]

It looks to be all over.

[MAX]

Originally posted by Warham
It looks to be all over.


I hope so!!!!!!! :D

[ELVIS]

Originally posted by Satan
Polls are bullshit.


We'll see...

[John Ashcroft]

Hey fellas, I'm back.

Sorry 'bout the absence, been moving.

Lot's going on I see. Same old liberal bullshit, but there seems to be an abundance of it around here lately. Good stuff for sure!

Anyway, you guys notice how the libs are already trying to spin this? It starts with the typical playbook option #1... Accuse the accuser. Compare the two conventions (for those who watched them, I did). The Dem's (with Obama being the only exception) was a convention full of negativity and hate. The Republican convention by contrast was full of optimism and hope for the future. All any of the speakers who brought up "the New JFK" did was recite his record. And all of a sudden it was labeled "a Republican hate-fest" by the press. Yep, spin away liberals, it ain't gonna work this time. The American people actually can think for themselves, despite what you libs think. Anyone who saw even part of the two conventions will see the contrast. And they won't see your spun version either.

Yep, Bush has got a double-digit lead now (and I predict it'll sustain at least 7 points right up to the election). A nice, healthy "bounce". How did Kerry's numbers fare after the Dem convention? Oh yeah, that's right... Bush got a bounce out of that one too.

[Viking]

BOI-OI-OI-OI-NNNN-GGGGG................ :bananna:

[Samsonite]

Is it November 2nd already? Damn...time flies...

[EmpyreLounge44]

the pre-polls are mostly garbage i would say and i live in boston, ma and no doubt this state will once again be democrat since it doesnt matter if you drown a girl, they will still vote you in. i plan on voting kerry but no way do i think this election will be close...georgie will get his 4 more years

[knuckleboner]

actually bush got a 2% bounce. and the latest polls show bush with a much smaller lead.

bush is 52-47 among likely voters and 49-48 among registered voters.

and the margin of error is 3.5%. statistically, it's still extremely close.

cnn.com (http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/09/06/presidential.poll/index.html)

[Warham]

That's just one poll Knuckle. The other two show Bush with an 11% and 13% lead.

[John Ashcroft]

And anything eminating from the "Clinton News Network" should be taken with a healthy grain of salt.

Aren't Begala and Carville now working for the Kerry Campaign?

[knuckleboner]

eh...gallop was involved with the poll. they're usually pretty reputable. (at least, as far as polls go...)

these are just the latest numbers.

and there's no way bush's actual #s right now are a 10%+ lead. no way.

hell, mr. AG, if bush actually wins by a 10% or greater margin, in addition to the previous bet, i'll also provide you with nudie pics of anybody on the planet you want. hell any TEN chicks on the planet. it's that far out of reach.

(though...it might've been fun trying to pay on the bet...stalking laws aside...)

[John Ashcroft]

Deal! I want 10 nekkid pics of Ally.

[knuckleboner]

in addition to the previous bet, right?

done. though, for ally's planning purposes, there's zero chance bush comes close to a 10 point victory.

so, the few shots for the intial bet will be enough...