Moore says it better than I could!!!!

[Big Train]

http://michaelmoore.com/words/message/

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.....


Put Away Your Hankies...a message from Michael Moore

9/20/04

Dear Friends,




Enough of the handwringing! Enough of the doomsaying! Do I have to come there and personally calm you down? Stop with all the defeatism, OK? Bush IS a goner -- IF we all just quit our whining and bellyaching and stop shaking like a bunch of nervous ninnies. Geez, this is embarrassing! The Republicans are laughing at us. Do you ever see them cry, "Oh, it's all over! We are finished! Bush can't win! Waaaaaa!"




Hell no. It's never over for them until the last ballot is shredded. They are never finished -- they just keeping moving forward like sharks that never sleep, always pushing, pulling, kicking, blocking, lying.




They are relentless and that is why we secretly admire them -- they just simply never, ever give up. Only 30% of the country calls itself "Republican," yet the Republicans own it all -- the White House, both houses of Congress, the Supreme Court and the majority of the governorships. How do you think they've been able to pull that off considering they are a minority? It's because they eat you and me and every other liberal for breakfast and then spend the rest of the day wreaking havoc on the planet.




Look at us -- what a bunch of crybabies. Bush gets a bounce after his convention and you would have thought the Germans had run through Poland again. The Bushies are coming, the Bushies are coming! Yes, they caught Kerry asleep on the Swift Boat thing. Yes, they found the frequency in Dan Rather and ran with it. Suddenly it's like, "THE END IS NEAR! THE SKY IS FALLING!"




No, it is not. If I hear one more person tell me how lousy a candidate Kerry is and how he can't win... Dammit, of COURSE he's a lousy candidate -- he's a Democrat, for heavens sake! That party is so pathetic, they even lose the elections they win! What were you expecting, Bruce Springsteen heading up the ticket? Bruce would make a helluva president, but guys like him don't run -- and neither do you or I. People like Kerry run.




Yes, OF COURSE any of us would have run a better, smarter, kick-ass campaign. Of course we would have smacked each and every one of those phony swifty boaty bastards down. But WE are not running for president -- Kerry is. So quit complaining and work with what we have. Oprah just gave 300 women a... Pontiac! Did you see any of them frowning and moaning and screaming, "Oh God, NOT a friggin' Pontiac!" Of course not, they were happy. The Pontiacs all had four wheels, an engine and a gas pedal. You want more than that, well, I can't help you. I had a Pontiac once and it lasted a good year. And it was a VERY good year.




My friends, it is time for a reality check.

[ELVIS]

That's crazy...:D

Is that really from Moore ??

[Big Train]

direct from his site...

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by Big Train
Only 30% of the country calls itself "Republican,"

That sounds a little low...

I really wish he would give sources.

[John Ashcroft]

Do winners usually give such speeches?

Heh heh heh... He's right! We are laughing at you!

[wraytw]

Originally posted by Ally_Kat
That sounds a little low...

I really wish he would give sources.

Are you talking about Michael Moore or FORD? :D

[freak]

Michael Moore says...
No, it is not. If I hear one more person tell me how lousy a candidate Kerry is and how he can't win... Dammit, of COURSE he's a lousy candidate -- he's a Democrat, for heavens sake! That party is so pathetic, they even lose the elections they win! What were you expecting, Bruce Springsteen heading up the ticket? Bruce would make a helluva president, but guys like him don't run -- and neither do you or I. People like Kerry run.

The charlatan speaks truth??

Whodathunk?

I couldn't have said it better myself, Tubby.

:D :D :D :D

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by John Ashcroft
Do winners usually give such speeches?

Heh heh heh... He's right! We are laughing at you!

you have it WAY too easy right now :)

[Big Train]

That may be so, but is it the conservatives fault? Is it a conspiracy?

[freak]

Originally posted by ODShowtime
you have it WAY too easy right now :)

Only because they make it so.

Giving a liberal a microphone these days is like giving someone with Parkinson's a straight razor.

It's almost sad, isn't it?

[tobinentinc]

30% republican in US is bullshit, I saw figures that showed republicans and moderates had similar numbers. And Democrats were at the bottom.

[freak]

Originally posted by tobinentinc
30% republican in US is bullshit, I saw figures that showed republicans and moderates had similar numbers. And Democrats were at the bottom.

Heard in the radio that if the election were held today, Bush would carry Tennessee by 16 points.

That is surprising to say the least.

[Lqskdiver]

Democrats are considered what Alterntive Music used to be. Hip at first, then no longer alternative but mainstream, then just plain annoying.

[Warham]

40% of the country is conservative, 40% is moderate and 20% is liberal.

[ODShowtime]

We do need to rally the troops right now, but bashing Kerry isn't gonn do it.

[Pink Spider]

Originally posted by Warham
40% of the country is conservative, 40% is moderate and 20% is liberal.

Kerry is a moderate leaning conservative by today's nonsense standards of what liberal and conservative stand for. So, those numbers don't matter, if they're true.

[ELVIS]

Nonsense standards ??

Do you ever smile ??

[Pink Spider]

Neo-cons, neo-liberals go beyond the boundaries of the concept of liberal and conservative. They are authoritarian fascists. It doesn't matter what side they're on.

And I only smile when there's something to smile about..

[ODShowtime]

I would advise turning off the TV then... at least until Saturday when football is on.

[ELVIS]

Well, I'm a conservative...

[Sgt Schultz]

The Democrats are in a tailspin right now becasue of the brilliant strategery of Carl Rove and George W Bush. They have masterfully nuked the Dems at every turn. Genius!

Oh, but wait...Bush is an idiot.

Never mind.

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by Sgt Schultz
The Democrats are in a tailspin right now becasue of the brilliant strategery of Carl Rove and George W Bush. They have masterfully nuked the Dems at every turn. Genius!

Oh, but wait...Bush is an idiot.

Never mind.


Exactly. No one ever said Karl Rove was an idiot. Nor are the people who hired Rove for Bush. He's an evil genius which is evidenced by the fact that you guys still have a leg to stand on after so many facts about Bush have been deciminated.

I mean, Bush is a lying, buddy-helping, war-mongering incompetent who has shredded the national budget and American diplomacy and he's still hovering near 50% of the vote in polls. Incredible the bullshit you guys will buy!

Karl Rove is a genius though, god damn...

[ELVIS]

Evil genius ??

:rolleyes:

[Sgt Schultz]

Originally posted by ODShowtime
Exactly. No one ever said Karl Rove was an idiot. Nor are the people who hired Rove for Bush. He's an evil genius which is evidenced by the fact that you guys still have a leg to stand on after so many facts about Bush have been deciminated.

I mean, Bush is a lying, buddy-helping, war-mongering incompetent who has shredded the national budget and American diplomacy and he's still hovering near 50% of the vote in polls. Incredible the bullshit you guys will buy!

Karl Rove is a genius though, god damn...

Well everything you said, except that Bush is at 50% in the polls, is flat out wrong.

But keep on thinking that Bush is an idiot and all the brains are behind him (Rove, Cheney etc) because underestimating his intelligence is a fey factor in his continued success against you.

I wonder who it was that managed to pass all of his flight tests, fly his F-102 (one of the more difficult jets to fly at the time) and then do all of his work and exams to get a Bachelor's degree from Yale University and a Master's of Business Administration from Harvard.

[ODShowtime]

Not like the Dr. Evil kind.

[ODShowtime]

The same person who's daddy got him into Harvard and Yale and the National Guard. You are just operating under false assumptions and pretenses. Once you understand the truth it all makes more sense. Money follows money and power follows power just like it has since the dawn of human intellect. Nothing has changed in human nature.

If he could, he would proclaim himself ruler for life and start dictating morals to us. He has been playing up the nice facade this year, but it will fade quickly if you people validate him.

If you think he's such a great intellectual and businessman, fill me in on the companies he didn't tank.

[wraytw]

Originally posted by ODShowtime
The same person who's daddy got him into Harvard and Yale and the National Guard.

What proof do you have of... oh, wait. You must be using those CBS documents...

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by wraytw
What proof do you have of... oh, wait. You must be using those CBS documents...

what a lame fucking retort

[wraytw]

Originally posted by ODShowtime
what a lame fucking retort

That's rich coming from someone who continually makes posts with a complete lack of substance. :)

[ODShowtime]

it's fun though

[DLR'sCock]

You guys do realise that only 50% of the the ELIGIBLE VOTERS IN THE USA vote for the largest turnout which is the Presidential election(most other elections are about 10% turnout), that means that on 50% of eligible voters are registered....because if they ain't voting, you bet your ass the ain't registering either....



The figures are more liely this...

Of all ELIGIBLE VOTERS INTHE US....


50%(over 100 million people) are Not Registerd to any party and don't vote at all.....

22.5% are registered Repbulicans

22.5% are registered Democrats


5% are Registered Independents and other parties....Including Green, Libertarian, Constitutional, etc etc...




This is most likely the scenario....

[Guitar Shark]

Whoever posted the article missed half of it. Here's the rest:

[ From http://michaelmoore.com/words/message/ ]

My friends, it is time for a reality check.

1. The polls are wrong. They are all over the map like diarrhea. On Friday, one poll had Bush 13 points ahead -- and another poll had them both tied. There are three reasons why the polls are b.s.: One, they are polling "likely voters." "Likely" means those who have consistently voted in the past few elections. So that cuts out young people who are voting for the first time and a ton of non-voters who are definitely going to vote in THIS election. Second, they are not polling people who use their cell phone as their primary phone. Again, that means they are not talking to young people. Finally, most of the polls are weighted with too many Republicans, as pollster John Zogby revealed last week. You are being snookered if you believe any of these polls.

2. Kerry has brought in the Clinton A-team. Instead of shunning Clinton (as Gore did), Kerry has decided to not make that mistake.

3. Traveling around the country, as I've been doing, I gotta tell ya, there is a hell of a lot of unrest out there. Much of it is not being captured by the mainstream press. But it is simmering and it is real. Do not let those well-produced Bush rallies of angry white people scare you. Turn off the TV! (Except Jon Stewart and Bill Moyers -- everything else is just a sugar-coated lie).

4. Conventional wisdom says if the election is decided on "9/11" (the fear of terrorism), Bush wins. But if it is decided on the job we are doing in Iraq, then Bush loses. And folks, that "job," you might have noticed, has descended into the third level of a hell we used to call Vietnam. There is no way out. It is a full-blown mess of a quagmire and the body bags will sadly only mount higher. Regardless of what Kerry meant by his original war vote, he ain't the one who sent those kids to their deaths -- and Mr. and Mrs. Middle America knows it. Had Bush bothered to show up when he was in the "service" he might have somewhat of a clue as to how to recognize an immoral war that cannot be "won." All he has delivered to Iraq was that plasticized turkey last Thanksgiving. It is this failure of monumental proportions that is going to cook his goose come this November.

So, do not despair. All is not over. Far from it. The Bush people need you to believe that it is over. They need you to slump back into your easy chair and feel that sick pain in your gut as you contemplate another four years of George W. Bush. They need you to wish we had a candidate who didn't windsurf and who was just as smart as we were when WE knew Bush was lying about WMD and Saddam planning 9/11. It's like Karl Rove is hypnotizing you -- "Kerry voted for the war...Kerry voted for the war...Kerrrrrryyy vooootted fooooor theeee warrrrrrrrrr..."

Yes...Yes...Yesssss....He did! HE DID! No sense in fighting now...what I need is sleep...sleeep...sleeeeeeppppp...

WAKE UP! The majority are with us! More than half of all Americans are pro-choice, want stronger environmental laws, are appalled that assault weapons are back on the street -- and 54% now believe the war is wrong. YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO CONVINCE THEM OF ANY OF THIS -- YOU JUST HAVE TO GIVE THEM A RAY OF HOPE AND A RIDE TO THE POLLS. CAN YOU DO THAT? WILL YOU DO THAT?

Just for me, please? Buck up. The country is almost back in our hands. Not another negative word until Nov. 3rd! Then you can bitch all you want about how you wish Kerry was still that long-haired kid who once had the courage to stand up for something. Personally, I think that kid is still inside him. Instead of the wailing and gnashing of your teeth, why not hold out a hand to him and help the inner soldier/protester come out and defeat the forces of evil we now so desperately face. Do we have any other choice?

Yours,

Michael Moore
www.michaelmoore.com
mmflint@aol.com

[Mezro]

Originally posted by Warham
40% of the country is conservative, 40% is moderate and 20% is liberal.

Where did you get that figure?

Mezro...seems about right...

[Warham]

Originally posted by Pink Spider
Kerry is a moderate leaning conservative by today's nonsense standards of what liberal and conservative stand for. So, those numbers don't matter, if they're true.

A moderate leaning conservative???? Are you out of your fucking mind. Kerry is as LIBERAL as a politician can get nowadays. He's from Massachusetts, for God's sake.

[Pink Spider]

Originally posted by Warham
A moderate leaning conservative???? Are you out of your fucking mind. Kerry is as LIBERAL as a politician can get nowadays. He's from Massachusetts, for God's sake.

Not true. Dennis Kucinich would be the closest example of the definition liberal in the Democratic party. Kerry is pro-corporate and pro-war among other things. His foreign policy is nearly identical to Bush and I would assume that since he has as many corporate ties that their domestic policies would end up looking nearly identical. No matter what flip-flopping he's accomplished to make voters think otherwise.

[Warham]

Dennis Kucinich might as well be an independent. Kerry is definately a liberal.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark


3. Traveling around the country, as I've been doing, I gotta tell ya, there is a hell of a lot of unrest out there. Much of it is not being captured by the mainstream press. But it is simmering and it is real. Do not let those well-produced Bush rallies of angry white people scare you. Turn off the TV! (Except Jon Stewart and Bill Moyers -- everything else is just a sugar-coated lie).



Uh huh. These guys have zero credibility, along with donut boy. :rolleyes:

[Warham]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
Whoever posted the article missed half of it. Here's the rest:

[ From http://michaelmoore.com/words/message/ ]

2. Kerry has brought in the Clinton A-team. Instead of shunning Clinton (as Gore did), Kerry has decided to not make that mistake.

Yours,

Michael Moore
www.michaelmoore.com
mmflint@aol.com

Yep, Kerry brought in Joe Lockhart, who's already in trouble for talking to Bill Burkett.

More like Clinton's leftovers, his Z-team. Z for Zero.

Does anybody think Clinton would allow somebody of his to work for Kerry? Clinton doesn't want Kerry to win. Hillary wants to run in '08.

Clinton also conveniently had that heart surgery a couple weeks ago, JUST before he was supposed to go out and campaign for Kerry. Uh huh.

Joe Lockhart was just a tool of Clinton's. To keep the press busy while Clinton was getting HIS tool taken care of by Monica.

[DLR'sCock]

Oh and I agree with Moore 100%!!!!

This shit is so far from over....

[Big Train]

It's over...when you decided to start running 10 minutes after the gun goes off, it's over.

I must say I am really suprised we are on page 2 of this thread and not a single Ford comment...he must be reworking his theories of the BCE, working Moore in as a BCE plant who has been secretly working with them since "Roger & Me"....

[freak]

Originally posted by DLR'sCock
Oh and I agree with Moore 100%!!!!

This shit is so far from over....

Did Kerry find a relevant subject he actually won't waffle on?

Someone at CBS score a copy of Photoshop and some Bush clip art?

Kinkos having a 2 for 1 sale?

[wraytw]

Speaking of Kinkos...

Did anyone check to see if Cock works there?

[Viking]

Amazing.....I actually agree with something Pig Dung says. What next - cats and dogs sleeping together? :D

[FORD]

Originally posted by Warham
A moderate leaning conservative???? Are you out of your fucking mind. Kerry is as LIBERAL as a politician can get nowadays. He's from Massachusetts, for God's sake.

So Shit Romney is a liberal?

[Warham]

No, Romney is moderate conservative. Nobody from Massachusetts is a diehard conservative, well not since I lived there three years ago.

[Big Train]

I've spent most of my life in Mass and I would say I'm a pretty conservative guy from a pretty conservative family.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by DLR'sCock
Oh and I agree with Moore 100%!!!!

This shit is so far from over....

Kerry is gonna get beat by a country mile. It won't be close. :gulp:

[Wayne L.]

Michael Moore doesn't have a clue what he's talking about which isn't usual coming from this big fat liberal far left loony & DNC poster boy while the Vote For Change tour with Bruce Springsteen & others will implode like an atomic bomb giving Bush another victory before the election in November.

[FORD]

Originally posted by Wayne L.
Wayne L. doesn't have a clue what he's talking about which isn't usual coming from this big fat radical far right loony & RNC poster boy while the Vote For Fascism tour with Toby Keith & others will implode like an atomic bomb giving Bush another defeat before the election in November.

[Keeyth]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
Kerry is gonna get beat by a country mile. It won't be close. :gulp:

Oh I can't wait until November... ...then you're gonna have to make yourself a little smilie eating your words instead of drinking a beer!!:D

[Big Train]

Well, if Moore actually gets one right, and I think he has, it's over....