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FORD
09-27-2004, 09:05 PM
Miracle, a symbol of peace, passes away

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(Published Friday, September 24, 2004 05:56:24 PM CDT;
updated Saturday, September 25, 2004)

By Catherine W. Idzerda/Gazette Staff

Miracle is gone.

Miracle the buffalo, the symbol of peace, died at 11:07 p.m. Sunday on the Dave and Valerie Heider farm in Janesville.

"She became sick on Friday," Dave Heider said. "She was off her feed and became lethargic."

The vet was with Miracle for much of last weekend but couldn't save her.

"We don't believe she was suffering," Heider said Friday afternoon. "It looked like she was resting peacefully."

The vet and Valerie Heider were with Miracle when she died.

It's not known why Miracle died, and the Heiders thought it would be inappropriate to do an autopsy.

"I really don't know what happened; she's always been small," Dave Heider said.

Miracle was buried in an unmarked grave. The Heiders may plan a memorial service at a later date and haven't decided on a grave marker.

Miracle was born on Aug. 20, 1994. She was the first all-white buffalo born since 1933.

A white buffalo is a sacred figure to some American Indians. According to a Lakota Sioux legend, the return of the female white buffalo calf heralded an era of peace and understanding among the people of the Earth.

Her appearance caused an influx of visitors from all over the world to the 45-acre farm at 2739 S. River Road.

People tramped up and down the farm lane at all hours of the night. The phone rang constantly. The Heiders had to set aside part of their land for parking.

The attention was exhausting.

In an 1999 interview, Heider talked about the days after Miracle's birth: "We figured after three months it would all dry up and go away. Now, we know better. Sometimes, I regret it."

But his attitude changed, and he came to feel blessed by Miracle's presence.

"We met people from all over the world," Heider said. "We had opportunities that we never would have had before."

The Heiders have played host to 300 tribes from all over the world including the Masai of Africa, the Aztecs of Mexico and aborigines from Australia. The Sioux, the Cree and the Ho Chunk are just a few of the tribes that have been to their home.

Over the years, Miracle turned black, red and yellow. Part of the legend said that the white buffalo would turn different colors to reflect all human races.

Miracle had three calves, Millennium, Lady Miracle, Mitakuye Oyasin-which means "We Are All Related in the Sacred Hoop of Life" in the Nakota Sioux language.

In August, about 300 people visited the Heider farm for her 10th birthday. Many visitors said Miracle represented hope in time of war.

"The legend doesn't say anything about Miracle dying," Heider said. "Buffalos can live to be 25 to 30 years old."

Heider delayed releasing the news for the better part of a week because he and his wife had to go on a business trip and they were still adjusting to their own shock and sadness.

"I really don't know how you can love an animal that much that you couldn't touch. She wasn't tame, you know, she was basically a wild animal," Heider said. "It's hard to put into words; I don't know how to explain it. It's like losing a close friend or relative."
Link (http://www.gazetteextra.com/whitebuffalo092404.asp)


Rest in Peace, Miracle. And we pray that all hope of peace in this world has not died with you :(

Dr. Love
09-27-2004, 09:10 PM
Who wants some jerky?

Ally_Kat
09-27-2004, 09:15 PM
I have this strange urge to go watch Dances with Wolves...

FORD
09-27-2004, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Love
Who wants some jerky?

Don't go there Doc... :mad:

FORD
09-27-2004, 09:20 PM
Originally posted by Ally_Kat
I have this strange urge to go watch Dances with Wolves...

"PowWow Highway" or "Smoke Signals" would be better choices, if you can find a copy.

Ally_Kat
09-27-2004, 09:26 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Miracle was born on Aug. 20, 1994. She was the first all-white buffalo born since 1933.

A white buffalo is a sacred figure to some American Indians. According to a Lakota Sioux legend, the return of the female white buffalo calf heralded an era of peace and understanding among the people of the Earth.



Anyone else know what happened in 1933?

Sgt Schultz
09-28-2004, 10:51 AM
I've driven past Miracle many times. The place was a dump and I've called the Human Society and reported similar farms for the horrendous quality of hay they were feeding and poor living conditions the animals had to live in. It's a "miracle" that Miracle survived this long. They should have given Miracle to a place where they can roam free instead of keeping Miracle for their own selfish reasons. Just my opinion.

DrMaddVibe
09-28-2004, 10:56 AM
Pass the fucking mustard and pickles!

FORD
09-28-2004, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
Pass the fucking mustard and pickles!

Fuck off you worthless Freeper piece of shit.

You pissing all over the sincerely held religious faith of millions of people proves what an entirely worthless waste of sperm and egg you are.

Switch84
09-28-2004, 11:21 AM
:eek: :( :confused: You had me going for a moment there, Ford! When I read "Dave and Valerie", I thought Davy Baby had hooked up with Van Halen's 'Yoko Ono'!

Ok, back to Miracle...Some of my kinfolk that's deep into mapping our family tree researched this Amer. Indian sign of peace, and it's not looking good that she died while we're in the midst of fighting in the Middle East and still trying to recoup from the 9/11/01 attacks.


God, help us........

Switch84
09-28-2004, 11:25 AM
:confused: ;) Is the chicken a sacred animal? I hope not, because I've commited blasphemy big time........


LOL!

FORD
09-28-2004, 11:35 AM
I invite anybody who can read this to explain exactly how this fucking piece of crap is less worthy of being banned than fatass shadow or the dickshot porn queen

FagVibe, that is.... not Switch

ELVIS
09-28-2004, 11:40 AM
Great White Buffalo


Well, listen everybody,
to what I got to say.
There's hope for tomorrow,
Ooh,we're workin'on today.
Well,it happened long time ago,
in the new magic land.
The Indian and the buffalo,
they existed hand in hand....

The Indian needed food,
he needed skins for a roof.
But he only took what they needed,baby.
Millions of buffalo were the proof.

Yeah,its all right.
But then came the white man,
with his thick and empty head.
He couldnt see past the billfold,

he wanted all the buffalo dead.
It was sad...It was sad.
Oh yeah...yes indeed.
Oh yes,

it happened a long time ago,baby.
In the new magic land.
See,the Indian and the buffalo,
they existed hand in hand.

The Indians,they needed some food,
and some skins for a roof.
They only took what they needed,baby.
millions of buffalo were the proof,yeah.

But then came the white dogs,
with their thick and empty heads.
They couldnt see past the billfold.
they wanted all the buffalo dead.
Everything was SO sad.


When I looked above the canyon wall,
some strong eyes did I see.
I think its somebody comin' around
to save my ass,baby.
I think...I think he's comin' around
to save you and me.

Boys......


I said, above the canyon wall...
strong eyes did glow.
It was the leader of the land,baby.


OH MY GOD,
The GREAT WHITE BUFFALO.....
LOOK OUT!!!! LOOK OUT!!!!!!!


Well,he got the battered herd.
He led em cross the land.
With the Great White Buffalo,
they gonna make a final stand.


The Great White Buffalo,
comin'around to make a final stand.
Well,look out here he comes.


The great white buffalo,baby.
The Great White Buffalo....
Look out,here he comes.
He's doin'all right.


Makin'everything all right.
Yeah,yeah,yeah.....




Ted Nugent


:elvis:

lms2
09-28-2004, 11:42 AM
http://ravenwolf.freehosting.net/whitebufflegned.htm

FORD
09-28-2004, 11:59 AM
Nugent made a couple valid points in that song (a rarity for him) but it's not an accurate representation at all of how the White Buffalo came to the people.

ELVIS
09-28-2004, 12:07 PM
Oops...;)

DrMaddVibe
09-28-2004, 12:24 PM
Pass the fries too!

We'll make a baseball mitt out of his ass and then FORD can go play with his little friends!

Pink Spider
09-28-2004, 12:27 PM
Originally posted by Ally_Kat
Anyone else know what happened in 1933?

Shhhhhh...don't inject logic into superstition. It ruins everything. ;)

Warham
09-28-2004, 03:54 PM
The White Buffalo better get together with Jesus and Buddha to find out what time the Apocalypse starts.

DrMaddVibe
09-28-2004, 04:11 PM
Is that before or after the main course?

FORD
09-28-2004, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by Warham
The White Buffalo better get together with Jesus and Buddha to find out what time the Apocalypse starts.

Maybe the Mayans got it right when they ended their calendar in 2012. Which means the Tribulation predicted in the Bible would begin 7 years earlier.

Translation - "re"elect Junior and the entire planet goes to Hell (literally) in 2005.

Warham
09-28-2004, 04:35 PM
That'd be too easy if that was the answer, FORD. You know God likes a good challenge for his reading audience.

The Mayans probably stopped at 2012 because they were wiped out before they could get any farther in their calendar updates.

I'm sure the world will still be here in a few thousand years. Sure, it might be a nuclear wasteland similar to Mad Max, but it'll still be here.

ODShowtime
09-28-2004, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by Warham
I'm sure the world will still be here in a few thousand years. Sure, it might be a nuclear wasteland similar to Mad Max, but it'll still be here.

there's a realistic outlook.

Warham
09-28-2004, 06:28 PM
:D

FORD
09-28-2004, 06:52 PM
Originally posted by Warham
That'd be too easy if that was the answer, FORD. You know God likes a good challenge for his reading audience.


Where God's challenge comes in is the Hopi legend where God, at the time of creation, created the 4 colors of mankind and gave each of them a piece of the Truth before sending them off to seperate parts of the planet. His challenge to them was to find each other and get to the whole truth through cooperation (i.e. comparing notes)

This is why I take prophecies in ANY religion seriously, whether I walk that particular path or not, because it's arrogant to assume that God only revealed Himself to one people in all of history.

DrMaddVibe
09-28-2004, 07:21 PM
So...lemme see if I've got this...

An albino giant cow is now some sign from God.

What's Edgar Winter then? God himself?

You need to get out above ground level more often!

FORD
09-28-2004, 07:42 PM
I'm sure in the early 70's some people thought Edgar Winter might have been God. Never got the whole fascination with the guy myself. "Frankenstein" was a pretty decent instrumental I guess, but what else did the guy do? Other than launching the careers of a couple bozos who would later make cheesy ass disco records.

ELVIS
09-28-2004, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Where God's challenge comes in is the Hopi legend where God, at the time of creation, created the 4 colors of mankind and gave each of them a piece of the Truth before sending them off to seperate parts of the planet. His challenge to them was to find each other and get to the whole truth through cooperation (i.e. comparing notes)

This is why I take prophecies in ANY religion seriously, whether I walk that particular path or not, because it's arrogant to assume that God only revealed Himself to one people in all of history.

I agree with this...

See, FORD is capable of posting something other than BCE...


:elvis:

GAR
09-28-2004, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Maybe the Mayans got it right when they ended their calendar in 2012.

Fucking PELICANS~!!

ELVIS
09-28-2004, 09:19 PM
What's with the Pelicans ??

:confused:

Ally_Kat
09-28-2004, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Fuck off you worthless Freeper piece of shit.

You pissing all over the sincerely held religious faith of millions of people proves what an entirely worthless waste of sperm and egg you are.


So we allow stabs at Christianity, Islam, and Judaism, but draw the lines at Native Americans? Uh...

Ally_Kat
09-28-2004, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by FORD
I invite anybody who can read this to explain exactly how this fucking piece of crap is less worthy of being banned than fatass shadow or the dickshot porn queen

FagVibe, that is.... not Switch

So then should we ban Dr Love with him since he too made a similar joke? And how about Sesh anytime he starts posting pictures of Jesus porn? You make exceptions for one culture then you're going to have to apply then to the others, and then where do we draw the line?


And sorry about replying and then not clicking the mod only post. I think I got to it before anyone say it though.

FORD
09-28-2004, 10:25 PM
Originally posted by Ally_Kat
So we allow stabs at Christianity, Islam, and Judaism, but draw the lines at Native Americans? Uh...

As I said, nobody's faith should be attacked. That doesn't mean I'm going to let Pat Robertson, Osama Bin Laden or Ariel Sharon off the hook, because they act out of hatred, not out of faith. They are not acting according to what the Torah, the Gospels, or the Quran teach.

If someone makes a mockery of Native religions as those guys have with the middle east-based versions, they would hear it from me as well.

And such mockeries DO happen.... it's just that they usually don't make the 6:00 news.

FORD
09-28-2004, 10:36 PM
Originally posted by Ally_Kat
So then should we ban Dr Love with him since he too made a similar joke? And how about Sesh anytime he starts posting pictures of Jesus porn? You make exceptions for one culture then you're going to have to apply then to the others, and then where do we draw the line?


And sorry about replying and then not clicking the mod only post. I think I got to it before anyone say it though.

I told Doc not to "go there" and knowing Sesh, if I told him not to post Jesus porn, he'd just post more. (Where does he get that shit anyway?) It's bad enough that Sesh is not only calling Jesus "gay", but is enabling "God" to do so as well. I'm surprised their hasn't been freak lightning storms in Scotland!

My problem with Ass Vibrator is that he does nothing but disrupt every thread with his beyond RW fringe crap. Right wing debate I can handle. Mindless stupidity, I don't think we need. I'd bet money this fool's posting from a desk in a GOP campaign office and is under orders to disrupt any discussion where Democrats or any opposition to the BCE is being discussed. And that's not "liberal paranoia" talking, that's what's literally taking place all over the net.

Guess the 18th century party learned something from the Dean revolution after all. I just wished they would send people with brains :(

Ally_Kat
09-29-2004, 08:34 PM
Originally posted by FORD
I told Doc not to "go there" and knowing Sesh, if I told him not to post Jesus porn, he'd just post more. (Where does he get that shit anyway?) It's bad enough that Sesh is not only calling Jesus "gay", but is enabling "God" to do so as well. I'm surprised their hasn't been freak lightning storms in Scotland!

My problem with Ass Vibrator is that he does nothing but disrupt every thread with his beyond RW fringe crap. Right wing debate I can handle. Mindless stupidity, I don't think we need. I'd bet money this fool's posting from a desk in a GOP campaign office and is under orders to disrupt any discussion where Democrats or any opposition to the BCE is being discussed. And that's not "liberal paranoia" talking, that's what's literally taking place all over the net.

Guess the 18th century party learned something from the Dean revolution after all. I just wished they would send people with brains :(

Dude, and I can show you boards for conservative kiss my age that are attacked by liberals. I don't think it's the party doing it. I think it's individual people doing it who really dislike the other side and just want to shout them down.

And there are other idiots on this board. I really don't see any difference between them and this one. It's just that this one is anti-left and posting in the politic threads. ;) lol He goes and posts in other places on the board. It's like Flappo, Phil, and that whole crew.

And yea, Sesh and others who don't follow the faith are always going to hit on it. Every time there's a topic anywhere near religion they do. Which is mostly why I'm suprised you got all angry at the two comments. People are going to attack, hun.

Personally, that whole church stain class thing Sesh made a thread about is just looking at an innocent picture with a dirty mind. That looks like a stained glass depicting Confirmation.