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Lincoln
01-27-2004, 01:35 AM
West Des Moines, January 26, 2004 - They came to town, tried to get your vote and then left for New Hampshire.

But one presidential candidate may have left a big bill for a small West Des Moines deli. The campaigns ate, drank and slept at dozens of places across town. For the most part they paid their bills.

This is how it's supposed to work inside the Brown Bag Deli. Owner Scott Hoffman makes you a turkey sandwich and then you pay for it.

Scott will tell you deliveries are a little different, especially one back on the 16th of this month. That was a big order for this small business of four employees. 200 brown bag specials...with turkey, roast beef, ham and veggie sandwiches. The total...$963.01.

As he headed out that day, Scott remembered this customer has paid its bills late a couple times before. So he promised delivery this time with one condition, "c.o.d."

He showed up at the customer's downtown office just in time for lunch. The Dean headquarters was utter chaos. But he couldn't find anyone who'd pay him. They said try the other building next door. Same answer next door, try the other building. Scott went back and forth for 20 minutes. Nobody would pay.

He just assumed they would pay in good faith. After all, Dick Gephardt's campaign paid its lunch bills on time. And Howard Dean has thousands of followers in Iowa. Can't one of them give Scott his money?

We tried all day to reach Howard Dean's people-- no comment from them yet. By the way, Scott Hoffman says he considered himself a possible Dean supporter before the incident. He's since changed his mind.

We're checking unpaid debts from other campaigns and haven't found any yet.

link (http://whotv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1617677&nav=5ZinKQq4)
Jared is fortunate Dean didn't order sandwiches from his shop.

ELVIS
01-27-2004, 01:48 AM
Conspiracy FORD ???

Junyore Grades
01-27-2004, 07:58 AM
PNACers after your crackers?

Little Texan
01-27-2004, 09:23 AM
It's a BCE conspiracy to smear the "good name" of Howard Dean. The BCE ordered all that food for the Dean headquarters, knowing that nobody there would pay the bill since no one there ordered the food. ;) :D

Junyore Grades
01-27-2004, 09:32 AM
Democrats always think someone else should pay.

FORD
01-27-2004, 09:38 AM
Originally posted by Little Texan
It's a BCE conspiracy to smear the "good name" of Howard Dean. The BCE ordered all that food for the Dean headquarters, knowing that nobody there would pay the bill since no one there ordered the food. ;) :D

I wouldn't put it past them. Or the DLC, for that matter.

In reality though it was probably just a misunderstanding.Person A probably thought person B had paid for it while person B thought person C had it taken care of but couldn't confirm this with A because he was in the bathroom taking a shit when the delivery guy showed up. Or something like that. The grunt campaign workers probably don't have $900 cash in their pockets in either case.

Dean obviously hasn't had problems raising money, so I'm sure there was no intention to stiff the deli. What this DOES show is that the media whores are desperate to slam Dean.

1992 flashbacks, anyone?

Lincoln
01-27-2004, 09:41 AM
It shows lack of organization and respect to business owners. It is very simple, the person who called in the order should have had the money to pay for the food and expected the delivery person to come. Then simpley pay the man. Media whores for reporting facts? Come one.

BigBadBrian
01-27-2004, 06:35 PM
Dean people are salami-eating thieves. Get that Ham and Swiss out of your mouth, FORD. :D

alexpgrimes
01-27-2004, 07:54 PM
Why don't you bring up the fact that Al Sharpton owes everyone from restaurants to limo companies? Or is this just a one sided jab???

Ally_Kat
01-27-2004, 10:20 PM
wait - the media will do anything to slam Dean? Isn't this the same media that was all about Dean winning everything about a month or two ago?

Ally_Kat
01-27-2004, 10:23 PM
Originally posted by alexpgrimes
Why don't you bring up the fact that Al Sharpton owes everyone from restaurants to limo companies? Or is this just a one sided jab???


Are you actually taking Al Sharpton seriously in this campaign?

ELVIS
01-27-2004, 10:24 PM
Yep.. same media Ally.. go figure...:rolleyes:

alexpgrimes
01-27-2004, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by Ally_Kat
Are you actually taking Al Sharpton seriously in this campaign? No but that piece of shit needed to be put in his place.

rustoffa
01-27-2004, 11:29 PM
Deli guy:"That'll be $4.59".
Dean supporter:"I'm with Dean".
Deli guy:"It'll still be $4.59".
Dean supporter:"What"?
Deli guy:(to co-worker)"I dunno man,that fucker just pulled his hoodie up and hauled ass".

Ally_Kat
01-27-2004, 11:56 PM
Originally posted by alexpgrimes
No but that piece of shit needed to be put in his place.

He ran for mayor here and lost.
He's running for the presidental nomination and will lose.

Trust me, getting his is something that will happen. Patience.