View Full Version : New fake "terra alert" hits a new low, even for the BCE
Schools Warned Of Terror Threats
WASHINGTON, Oct. 7, 2004
(AP) The Education Department has advised school leaders nationwide to watch for people spying on their buildings or buses to help detect any possibility of terrorism like the deadly school siege in Russia.
The warning follows an analysis by the FBI and the Homeland Security Department of the siege that killed nearly 340 people, many of them students, in the city of Beslan last month.
"The horror of this attack may have created significant anxiety in our own country among parents, students, faculty staff and other community members," Deputy Education Secretary Eugene Hickok said in a letter to schools and education groups.
The safety advice is based on lessons learned from the Russia incident. But there is "no specific information indicating that there is a terrorist threat to any schools or universities in the United States," Hickok said.
Federal law enforcement officials also have encouraged local police to stay in contact with school officials and have encouraged reporting of suspicious activities, the letter says.
In particular, schools were told to watch for activities that may be legitimate on their own — but may suggest a heightened terrorist threat if many of them occur.
Among those activities:
# Interest in obtaining site plans for schools, bus routes and attendance lists.
# Prolonged "static surveillance" by people disguised as panhandlers, shoe shiners, newspaper or flower vendors or street sweepers not previously seen in the area.
# Observations of security drills.
# People staring at or quickly looking away from employees or vehicles as they enter or leave parking areas.
# Foot surveillance of campuses involving individuals working together.
The effort is the latest by the Education Department and other federal agencies to encourage school officials to maintain and practice a plan for responding to emergencies.
After the terrorist takeover of the Russian school, President Bush asked his top advisers to review their strategies for dealing with hostage situations, Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge has said.
The federal government is advising schools to take many steps to improve the security of their buildings. Those include installing locks for all doors and windows, having a single entry point into buildings and ensuring they can reach school bus drivers in an emergency.
The Education Department sent its letter by e-mail Wednesday to school police, state school officers, school boards, groups representing principals and many other organizations.
The Homeland Security Department also sent a bulletin Wednesday to federal, state and local emergency officials to provide fresh guidance based on the review of the school siege in Russia.
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Warham
10-07-2004, 05:15 PM
It's only a fake until it actually happens somewhere FORD. Then what are you gonna say?
I'm sure somewhere, somebody has the bright idea to follow what those asses in Russia did over here.
Ally_Kat
10-07-2004, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by FORD
The warning follows an analysis by the FBI and the Homeland Security Department of the siege that killed nearly 340 people, many of them students, in the city of Beslan last month.
The safety advice is based on lessons learned from the Russia incident. But there is "no specific information indicating that there is a terrorist threat to any schools or universities in the United States," Hickok said.
Dude, were are you getting this vote for us of the kids die shit from? Would you rather we not heed caution and learn from events around us?
Warham
10-07-2004, 05:21 PM
No, FORD lives in a 9/10/01 world, like most libs.
Everytime the BCE was getting bad press, or was on the verge of getting bad press (i.e. something that was in The Guardian or on CBC but not picked up by the US Media yet) the convenient terra threats have shown up.
Their cry wolf act has worn thin with the regular terra alerts, so now they have to stoop to a new low and milk the little scene that Pooty poot staged over in Russia last month.
It's total fucking fear mongering bullshit.
Mezro
10-07-2004, 05:24 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Schools Warned Of Terror Threats
WASHINGTON, Oct. 7, 2004
Could this be the start of the "October Surprise?"
Mezro...watching and wondering...
ODShowtime
10-07-2004, 05:28 PM
We just got a new High School in the district and the motherf'er is built like a fortress... bring it on...
Warham
10-07-2004, 05:29 PM
FORD now thinks Putin staged the school hostage situation.
Where's the spin on this one?
Originally posted by Warham
FORD now thinks Putin staged the school hostage situation.
Where's the spin on this one?
If the Soviets were still in charge, you wouldn't doubt it for a second, would you?
Perhaps you aren't aware that Junior's self-proclaimed "soulmate" has a background in the KGB and the Russian mafia?
Ally_Kat
10-07-2004, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Their cry wolf act has worn thin with the regular terra alerts, so now they have to stoop to a new low and milk the little scene that Pooty poot staged over in Russia last month.
But there is "no specific information indicating that there is a terrorist threat to any schools or universities in the United States," Hickok said.
There is no information of an attack. There is no attack warning. No possible attacks are being suspected. All they are saying is that, "hey, there was that horrible school incident in Russia. We should prepare ourselves ever in case someone tries that shit here."
How about all times have I had to sit thru lectures cuz of a school shooting from the Midwest? Should we call that crying wolf, too? There was no specific threat that there would be a massive breakout of school shootings, yet those tolerance and acceptance lectures swept thru the school system.
Originally posted by Ally_Kat
There is no information of an attack. There is no attack warning. No possible attacks are being suspected.
But that's exactly how ALL the "vague unspecific" terra alerts have been. Buy duct tape!
Ally_Kat
10-07-2004, 05:40 PM
No. They've mentioned chatter or suspect information.
And here's something else to consider...
What other purpose do schools serve, at least for one day in November?
Could this be a set up to scare away voters?
Warham
10-07-2004, 06:35 PM
Scare away Republican voters, FORD? :D
ELVIS
10-07-2004, 06:37 PM
No...
And here's something else to consider...
You're paranoid...
The sky is not falling...
I cannot wait for George Bush to be re-elected!
It's gonna be fun around here...:D
Originally posted by Warham
Scare away Republican voters, FORD? :D
No, because the Republicans are on a massive phone campaign right now trying to get everyone to vote absentee. Problem is that their phone lists are flawed, and they've been calling a few Democrats by mistake.
Originally posted by ELVIS
No...
And here's something else to consider...
You're paranoid...
The sky is not falling...
I cannot wait for George Bush to be re-elected!
It's gonna be fun around here...:D
It's mathematically impossible for Junior to be elected. It's entirely impossible to be re-elected since he wasn't elected last time.
ELVIS
10-07-2004, 06:40 PM
Massive phone campaign ???
Warham
10-07-2004, 06:41 PM
The Republicans use the phone, the Dems use their e-mail, like in the fraudulent results of that MSNBS poll a few days ago.
Originally posted by Warham
The Republicans use the phone, the Dems use their e-mail, like in the fraudulent results of that MSNBS poll a few days ago.
Guess you've never been to www.freerepublic.com??
They got so good at rigging online polls that they even invented their own word for it.
It's now called "Freeping" the polls. And that's how the mediawhores were able to claim that a bumbling idiot with a wireless earpiece in his ear was the "winner" of the 2000 debates, when Gore outperformed him throughout the entire event.
ELVIS
10-07-2004, 06:52 PM
Gore didn't outperform jack-squat...
BigBadBrian
10-07-2004, 07:49 PM
FORD, you are a sick bastard. Just pathetic.
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
FORD, you are a sick bastard. Just pathetic.
Fuck you. I've watched these unelected criminal pieces of shit distract atrtention from any bad news about themselves by floating FAKE terrorist alerts for three years now, and I'm not putting up with this bullshit.
BUSH LIED about WMD's in Iraq, and now the government's own reports prove it. The BCE needed a distraction fast, and as usual, they created one. :mad:
diamondD
10-07-2004, 11:32 PM
The only thing fake in this thread is the actual proof of anyone floating anything about an "imminent threat" due to "chatter" or info from captured prisoners. All it calls for is to warn people for stuff to look at. And you can believe that parents are freaking out about this. Look at all the copycat incidents that happened in a short span when all the school shootings were going on, including right here in Ark.
I can't believe you create a non-issue and carry on like you do when it's simply not there. Don't you get embarrassed?
McCarrens
10-07-2004, 11:42 PM
Ford, you cannot come up with proof that Bush cheated the American people away from geting the man they really elected into the White House.
Everyone here knows it. How is it "mathematically impossible" for Bush to win the upcoming election.
And pulling up some left-wing "facts" from some fringe radical liberal bitch site proves nothing.
Everyone here knows you are packed full of shit.
It is time to put up the keyboard, sell your computer and stop trying to infect intelligent people's mind the constant line of garbage you type.
McCarrens
10-07-2004, 11:43 PM
On second thought, I hope Ford is right. If Bush was never elceted in 2000, then he could run again in 2008.
I would love to have three terms with this great man.
lucky wilbury
10-08-2004, 12:32 AM
as it's been pointed out before never trust a ford article. the facts are usually cut out of it.notice all the stuff in this sarticle which includes a link tells about the origins of the info. see how it's lacking in fords article i wonder why that is. now for the full article:
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGBF1XXR10E.html
Computer Disc Found in Iraq Contained Floor Plans, Other Data on Schools in Six States
By Ben Feller The Associated Press
Published: Oct 7, 2004
WASHINGTON (AP) - Federal law enforcement authorities notified school districts in six states last month that a computer disc found in Iraq contained photos, floor plans and other information about their schools, two U.S. officials said Thursday.
The downloaded data found by the U.S. military in July - all publicly available on the Internet - included an Education Department report guiding schools on how to prepare and respond to a crisis, said one official, speaking on condition of anonymity.
The officials said it was unclear who downloaded the information and stressed there is no evidence of any specific threats involving the schools.
The districts mentioned are in Georgia, Florida, Michigan, New Jersey, Oregon and California. The officials said last month FBI agents in charge of those areas alerted local education and law enforcement officials about the finding.
The officials did not provide the names of the districts. But Salem, Ore., Superintendent Kay Baker confirmed her district was among them.
"Local law enforcement has no knowledge of a specific threat to any of our school buildings," she said. "We will work collaboratively with law enforcement on any further developments."
San Diego schools also were included, according to The San Diego Union-Tribune, and ABC News said there was a second California district. The Salem Statesman Journal reported the other districts were Fort Myers, Fla.; Jones County, Ga.; Birch Run, Mich.; and Franklinville and Rumson, both in New Jersey.
The disc contained an Education Department report called "Practical Information on Crisis Planning: A Guide for Schools and Communities," published in May 2003, as well as photos and floor plans.
In a separate but more widespread warning put out this week, the Education Department advised school leaders nationwide to watch for people spying on their buildings or buses to help detect any possibility of terrorism like the deadly school siege last month in Russia.
The warning follows an analysis by the FBI and the Homeland Security Department of the siege that killed nearly 340 people, many of them students, in the city of Beslan.
"The horror of this attack may have created significant anxiety in our own country among parents, students, faculty staff and other community members," Deputy Education Secretary Eugene Hickok said in a letter sent Wednesday to schools and education groups.
The Education Department's advice is based on lessons learned from the Russia siege. But there is no specific information indicating a terrorist threat to any schools or universities in the United States, Hickok said.
Federal law enforcement officials also have urged local police to stay in contact with school officials and have encouraged reporting of suspicious activities, the letter says.
In particular, schools were told to watch for activities that may be legitimate on their own - but may suggest a threat if many of them occur.
Among those activities:
- Interest in obtaining site plans for schools, bus routes and attendance lists.
- Prolonged "static surveillance" by people disguised as panhandlers, shoe shiners, newspaper or flower vendors or street sweepers not previously seen in the area.
- Observations of security drills.
- People staring at or quickly looking away from employees or vehicles as they enter or leave parking areas.
- Foot surveillance of campuses involving individuals working together.
The effort is the latest by the Education Department and other federal agencies to encourage school officials to maintain and practice a plan for responding to emergencies.
"It's a positive sign that they're finally discussing this after years of downplaying or denying even the possibility of a terrorist strike on schools," said Kenneth Trump, a Cleveland-based school safety consultant who has worked with officials in more than 40 states. "Public officials are in fear of creating fear, but we have to put the cards on the table, educate people in the school community and make sure they are well prepared."
After the terrorist takeover of the Russian school, President Bush asked his top advisers to review their strategies for dealing with hostage situations, Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge has said.
The federal government is advising schools to take many steps to improve the security of their buildings. Those include installing locks for all doors and windows, having a single entry point into buildings and ensuring they can reach school bus drivers in an emergency.
The Education Department sent its letter by e-mail Wednesday to school police, state school officers, school boards, groups representing principals and many other organizations.
The Homeland Security Department also sent a bulletin to federal, state and local emergency officials to provide fresh guidance based on the review of the school siege in Russia.
Big Train
10-08-2004, 02:55 AM
Computer Disc Found in Iraq Contained Floor Plans, Other Data on Schools in Six States......
But, NO, there was NO terrorist acitivity going on in Iraq.
Say plant, Ford, please, say plant...
Originally posted by Big Train
Computer Disc Found in Iraq Contained Floor Plans, Other Data on Schools in Six States......
But, NO, there was NO terrorist acitivity going on in Iraq.
Say plant, Ford, please, say plant...
It's every bit as authentic as the spotless passport of Mohammed Atta which was "found" on top of the smoldering ruins of the WTC.
ELVIS
10-08-2004, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by McCarrens
It is time to put up the keyboard, sell your computer and stop trying to infect intelligent people's mind the constant line of garbage you type.
At least it's only one line...:D
Originally posted by McCarrens
How is it "mathematically impossible" for Bush to win the upcoming election.
Simple. He got less votes than Gore the last time, and he's lost numbers from several core conservative constituencies since then. There is no way that he could have gained any significant numbers of undecided voters, given that every aspect of his pResidency has been a failure.
Not to mention that several states are reporting high numbers of new voter registrations, and it is highly unlikely that new voters would register to vote for an incumbent.
And pulling up some left-wing "facts" from some fringe radical liberal bitch site proves nothing.
As opposed to the right wing lies that you and the other Busheep pull up from fringe radical neocon bitch sites.
Everyone here knows you are packed full of shit.
Which is why the GOP can't stop sending operatives like yourself in here to fuck with me, right?
It is time to put up the keyboard, sell your computer and stop trying to infect intelligent people's mind the constant line of garbage you type.
Intelligent people aren't supporting the BCE.
ELVIS
10-08-2004, 11:33 AM
Stupid quote
it is highly unlikely that new voters would register to vote for an incumbent.
What paranoid conspiracy do you base this on ??
ELVIS
10-08-2004, 11:34 AM
Originally posted by FORD
Intelligent people aren't supporting the BCE.
You're an idiot...
Originally posted by ELVIS
What paranoid conspiracy do you base this on ??
It's no conspiracy, just common sense. Those who have obstained from voting in previous elections either didn't care enough one way or the other, or didn't see enough of a difference between the two major party candidates to bother choosing. Or thought neither candidate represented their values. If these people are jumping into the race this year then obviously something has changed their thinking. And the obvious answer would be the direction the country has gone since the last election. Or in other words, they're registering to get rid of Junior.
diamondD
10-08-2004, 12:07 PM
Common sense would tell you the "BCE" doesn't give a flying fuck about you and your rantings on a DLR web site and isn't sending operatives over here. It's just sane people disagreeing with your point of view. ;)
ELVIS
10-08-2004, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by FORD
It's no conspiracy, just common sense. Those who have obstained from voting in previous elections either didn't care enough one way or the other, or didn't see enough of a difference between the two major party candidates to bother choosing. Or thought neither candidate represented their values. If these people are jumping into the race this year then obviously something has changed their thinking.
I agree with all of this, newley registered voters can go either way...
ELVIS
10-08-2004, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by diamondD
Common sense would tell you the "BCE" doesn't give a flying fuck about you and your rantings on a DLR web site and isn't sending operatives over here. It's just sane people disagreeing with your point of view. ;)
I TOTALLY agree with this!
lucky wilbury
10-08-2004, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by diamondD
Common sense would tell you the "BCE" doesn't give a flying fuck about you and your rantings on a DLR web site and isn't sending operatives over here. It's just sane people disagreeing with your point of view. ;)
oh but they do and they hacked his computer to find out what he's up too!
scorpioboy33
10-08-2004, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by McCarrens
On second thought, I hope Ford is right. If Bush was never elceted in 2000, then he could run again in 2008.
I would love to have three terms with this great man.
hahaha great man..hahaha he said great man....fuck thats funny I needed a good laugh
Angel
10-08-2004, 04:27 PM
LMMFAOBT!!!!! :D
steve
10-08-2004, 05:56 PM
It's a viable warning - the problem with it is the timing.
It would have made sense to make this warning the day after the Russian hostage siezure...or the day of.
Of course, if you're looking for a conspiracy, Bush's poll numbers went high right after that anyway, so if you're thinking that way, there was no "need to" then.
Now that Bush's poll numbers have dropped 5 points, this could be looked upon as suspicious terror alert timing considering it's been almost a month since the event.
BigBadBrian
10-08-2004, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by steve
this could be looked upon as suspicious terror alert timing considering it's been almost a month since the event.
One can say the exact same thing on thw WMD report, especially since this guy's boss David Kay said the exact same thing months ago. :gulp:
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