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POJO_Risin
06-23-2004, 11:41 PM
I don't think I'd deal Beltran until I see where he ends up...

if he's in Boston or NY by the end of July...I'd be an idiot to deal him...

I've done more idiotic things though...

Fairwrning
06-23-2004, 11:42 PM
Jenkins hasnt been hurt all year bro....but if ya want him..throw a name out..

Fairwrning
06-23-2004, 11:43 PM
hes actually been great at utility..i have a hard time takin him out..

Fairwrning
06-23-2004, 11:44 PM
im just throwing shit around...nuther spur of the moment deal..

Fairwrning
06-23-2004, 11:44 PM
Derrick Lee is another

Fairwrning
06-23-2004, 11:45 PM
red hot lately...

POJO_Risin
06-23-2004, 11:46 PM
No...I don't want Jenkins at all...

I'm just sayin' man...if Edmonds does indeed go on the dl...

I can offer you up some of my depth...just throwin it out there...

I had Jenkins last year...and I'm honestly not that interested in him simply because he plays for the fucking Selig-owned Brewers...

Fuck that guy...and that team...lmfao...

no offense High Life...

POJO_Risin
06-23-2004, 11:47 PM
Yeah...I like Lee...but he doesn't really fit on my team...

Fairwrning
06-23-2004, 11:48 PM
i see AL is floating around..lets talk A rod bro..:D

Fairwrning
06-23-2004, 11:49 PM
for Tejada maybe...

Fairwrning
06-23-2004, 11:49 PM
somethin else mixed in...

POJO_Risin
06-23-2004, 11:50 PM
LMFAO...here we go...maybe the first three way deal...

to bad you can't do that shit...

POJO_Risin
06-23-2004, 11:51 PM
Didn't you give him ARod?

Fairwrning
06-23-2004, 11:53 PM
yeah..Rolen deal..couple others..would be funny to get him back somehow...i thought about that the other day when Arod and Tejada hit 3 run dingers in the same inning/ same game...

POJO_Risin
06-24-2004, 12:15 AM
LMFAO...

I need to make a deal a week...

POJO_Risin
06-24-2004, 12:43 AM
I think we were on the cusp of a trading frenzy...but that didn't materialize...

redblkwht
06-24-2004, 01:22 AM
Originally posted by POJO_Risin
Hey RBW...it's hard to accept or decline a trade when you pull it before I can actually do anything with it...;)
thought you saw it, i didnt want to get the decline bro..
so i hooked him back in the boat.
ill look over your guys on the block & maybe counter one or another-

POJO_Risin
06-24-2004, 01:46 AM
Feel free my friend...feel free...

I'm all about the deal....

I may not have accepted it...but I would have countered...

I'll wait for a move from you...

ALinChainz
06-24-2004, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by fairwrning
i see AL is floating around..lets talk A rod bro..:D

A 3 way dance dudes?

POJO_Risin
06-24-2004, 07:12 PM
I thought we were heading there last night...

maybe tonight...

ALinChainz
06-24-2004, 07:27 PM
Just got a call from home that we have a power outage in our neighborhood. Supposed to be back on by 11pm EST, so hopefully it will be.

Hate to miss out on a rip roarin' trade !

POJO_Risin
06-24-2004, 07:49 PM
i doubt you'll miss anything...you never do...

ALinChainz
06-24-2004, 07:50 PM
Originally posted by POJO_Risin
i doubt you'll miss anything...you never do...

lol ... not sure how to take that.

POJO_Risin
06-24-2004, 08:41 PM
It wasn't a rip...I don't think...

My team just isn't getting it done...

redblkwht
06-24-2004, 11:55 PM
FIRE SALE ANYONE?????

POJO_Risin
06-25-2004, 12:08 AM
If you don't like the fucking deal...do it through the site....

redblkwht
06-25-2004, 12:22 AM
every fucking year someone hands you over a guy, look at the ranks
of the trade.
heres lou not wanting to trade for shit then hands over gagne for
larry & shemp..wtf.

redblkwht
06-25-2004, 12:24 AM
more power to ya, i just dont get lou getting green beans for steak.
guy sits on 3 1st baseman & not willing to deal early on
now has a pitching fire sale..
hats off to you, but same ole shit..
nice job lou.

POJO_Risin
06-25-2004, 12:27 AM
Like I said...if you don't fucking like it...click that you don't like it...

THE ONLY reason why I even tried to deal with Lou was because he was the only dude online tonight...

and yeah...look at the rankings...

Gagne...11 last month...Takatsu...42...Webb...176...not great...but better than nearly all his pitchers...

I have no problem cutting this deal...and not doing it...no problem at all...

POJO_Risin
06-25-2004, 12:30 AM
Ahhh...RBW...fuck it...

you know what...

I can hand you your ass with...or without Gagne...

POJO_Risin
06-25-2004, 12:36 AM
There you go...you can put the violin down...

POJO_Risin
06-25-2004, 12:43 AM
That shit fucking pisses me off (try that...three swear words in a row)...but it's fine...

I shouldn't have cancelled that deal...I should have let it fly through until I got some vetoes...

but fuck it...I'll do it to prove a fucking point...

Eyes of the Night
06-25-2004, 07:20 AM
Was womdering what the fook was going on ...

I woulda vetoed it too ... if that counts any ...

Va Beach VH Fan
06-25-2004, 10:34 AM
I saw it vetoed this morning...

Quite honestly, I'd have vetoed it also, that was quite onesided....

But at the same time, if both parties agree to the trade, irregardless of intentions, that's their business...

I really hope this league doesn't go the firesale route though... This league is the most evenly matched one that I have been in....

I agree with Poj though, if you don't like it, just vote to veto....

ALinChainz
06-25-2004, 12:28 PM
I'd do it the way it was designed.

If a trade comes up that owners don't like, veto it. Some owners may or may not catch it, or might like VA said, allow it to go because both parties agreed.

I'll be honest and say that I don't think there is anything sinister going on and that this league has been active and on top of things.

Let trades go through the process, if it goes through, it goes through. If it's vetoed, obviously it won't. Fair is fair that way and there shouldn't be any guessing.

POJO_Risin
06-25-2004, 12:53 PM
And I don't have a fucking problem with people just plain vetoing the deal...that's what the deal is...

I saw Lidge available...and thought, Hmmm...how can I get the fucker, and add to my team...the old can't get enough...

I literally looked online at the Army and decided that I was going to deal with whoever was there...

Al wasn't on...power outage...lmfao...

no Troy...

no wrning..until late...

Lou showed up...and threw him an offer...and got it back accepted...

Hey...if it would have been vetoed...fine...but don't fucking come out and accuse me of a fucking firesale steal before the fucking midway point...

Like I said...I didn't think of it that way (and RBW...I don't give a flying fuck if you believe me or not)...I was just trying to figure out how to drop two players to get him quickly...

So fuck it...I normally would have let the go to the veto vote...but I took a lot of things into account...in particular...how fucking pissed off I was last night about BEING CALLED OUT...which was entirely bullshit...did I think it was a completely fair deal...we're talking about Gagne...so to me...it's tough to say...he gets Mr. Zero...who up to this point has been untouchable...and just was made closer of a pretty good team...Webb was all about the potential...

You can't trade an everyday player for a closer...at least in my book...so it's hard to get an equal value trade for a high end closer...at least that's my thinking...

That being said...I know I got the better side of that deal on paper...

Fuck it...it's over and done with...

next trade I'll let goto the court I cancelled that one immediately to prove a point...and I'll keep proving that point for the rest of the season...

Fuckin' last time I'll get this pissed off about fantasy sports...

POJO_Risin
06-25-2004, 12:57 PM
Originally posted by ALinChainz
I'd do it the way it was designed.

If a trade comes up that owners don't like, veto it. Some owners may or may not catch it, or might like VA said, allow it to go because both parties agreed.

I'll be honest and say that I don't think there is anything sinister going on and that this league has been active and on top of things.

Let trades go through the process, if it goes through, it goes through. If it's vetoed, obviously it won't. Fair is fair that way and there shouldn't be any guessing.

Yeah bro...like I said at the start...I'd cancel any trade that was vetoed by 2/3rds...I think I may have even said 50% of the league...can't remember now...

and this league is checked out daily by everyone...

but when someone:

1. A friend, nonetheless, calls my ass out in post #1 after the trade...and never fucking vetoes it...I get pissed off...

2. Then...says it happens every year with me...and HAS NEVER fucking vetoed one fucking trade...

again...pisses me off...

Hey...whatever floats your boat...

ALinChainz
06-25-2004, 01:05 PM
Hell yeah bro, ain't no cause to get heated.

Every trade is going to be even on both sides, sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't.

Besisdes, if I'm not in on it, it isn't a good trade anyway.

he he he ...

Troy
06-25-2004, 01:08 PM
I missed some action last night... Paying bills sucks.

POJO_Risin
06-25-2004, 01:09 PM
Well...fact is...I make a ton of trades every year...

obviously when I throw an offer to someone...I'm thinking in my head I'm going to win this trade...

Hell...Eyes sent me a deal earlier this year...Nevin, Ortiz and Schilling for Rivera...

I actually e-mailed him and said, that won't go through...let's do Schilling for Rivera straight up...

and THAT deal got bantered about (no vetos)...but got bantered about because pitchers are tough to rank because they don't play as much as everyday players...

POJO_Risin
06-25-2004, 01:16 PM
That being said...anyone need a closer...

I have Percival coming off the DL on Saturday...and HE IS CLOSING...

I'll make a deal...and he'll be cheap...for anyone that needs on...

LOU...how about it?...;)...LMFAO...

POJO_Risin
06-25-2004, 01:51 PM
On the block:

Nomar
Renteria
Huff
Sweeney
Baldelli
Giles
Tex
Ordonez
Morris
Takatsu
Izzy
Pineiro
Percival

Got quite a few that I'd be willing to part with...if anyone's interested...

POJO_Risin
06-25-2004, 01:52 PM
LMFAO Troy...tell me about it...

No real action...just me flying off the handle about shit that I shouldn't worry about...man...thought I had Gagne for a second there...


Originally posted by Troy
I missed some action last night... Paying bills sucks.

ALinChainz
06-25-2004, 02:02 PM
Sent an offer.

Looks good on paper.

LOL ... my paper of course.

POJO_Risin
06-25-2004, 02:06 PM
I just have to many Rangers to do that...

LMFAO...you send me great trades...

With the new addition...the one guy I want to keep to see what happens with his RBI potential...

don't erase it...I may come at you with a counter...

ALinChainz
06-25-2004, 02:12 PM
No prob.

Only live once.

POJO_Risin
06-25-2004, 02:15 PM
Workin' on it...;)

POJO_Risin
06-25-2004, 02:34 PM
Alright...sent one your way...

POJO_Risin
06-25-2004, 02:40 PM
Damn...I don't know if I like that trade...may be going after names here...lmfao....

I hate this trade game...

POJO_Risin
06-25-2004, 02:50 PM
Well...

I tried...but to be honest...I don't know if I would have been happy with that deal...

I may be the only guy on the planet that thinks Blalock is the real thing...talk about underrated...

ALinChainz
06-25-2004, 02:58 PM
I like Blalock. No problem with him, I think he's an All Star, if not this season, then many times the rest of his career.

And I can understand too many Rangers too, wasn't even thinking about that.

POJO_Risin
06-25-2004, 02:59 PM
Yeah...that's why I was okay with getting rid of Blalock in that deal...

POJO_Risin
06-25-2004, 04:25 PM
Does anyone else have players they can list as being on the trading block...

maybe if we all have a list of folk...it will be easier to deal...or harder...who knows...

ALinChainz
06-25-2004, 05:30 PM
Soriano or Bagwell could be had. Posada probably also.

POJO_Risin
06-25-2004, 05:45 PM
Now we just need wrning...we should be able to get a three way deal going...

I'll be the middle man...I don't want a ton...

ALinChainz
06-25-2004, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by POJO_Risin
Now we just need wrning...we should be able to get a three way deal going...

I'll be the middle man...I don't want a ton...

LMAO ... YEAH YOU DO !

Fairwrning
06-25-2004, 05:53 PM
lmao..who did i get???

Fairwrning
06-25-2004, 05:55 PM
make it quick..my daughter has a softball game at 7;30...:)

ALinChainz
06-25-2004, 05:59 PM
I can wait til later wrning ... no problem.

Fairwrning
06-25-2004, 06:02 PM
have you guys already worked somethin out???
I have a few minutes to kill....probably wont be back on til tommorrow..

Fairwrning
06-25-2004, 06:05 PM
where the fuck is Pojo??....what is he scamming on now;)

Fairwrning
06-25-2004, 06:07 PM
who on my roster are you guys lookin at?? ANSWER ME DAMMITT!!:D

ALinChainz
06-25-2004, 06:07 PM
No ... we've been talking trade.

I keep asking for players he don't want to give up and he does the same, so unfortunately, we have done a whole bunch of sending offers back and forth, but can't come to any agreement.

Figured we'd bring a third team and see what we can do.

Fairwrning
06-25-2004, 06:11 PM
well..im always up to trade...but..im thinking its gonna be pretty much tit for tat..meaning, ill gladly drop a big name..but i want a big name in return...basically jus for the hell of keeping up with someone different..not really sure what i would want to trade for..could use another OF..kinda spread a little thin now..

Fairwrning
06-25-2004, 06:14 PM
hell..im running out of big names..

ALinChainz
06-25-2004, 06:18 PM
Me too really ... but so sick of languishing in the cellar. Out of the five teams I've got, this is my worst one standings wise.

I know its a long season too ... but damn it!

POJO_Risin
06-25-2004, 06:27 PM
Well...I've got some Outfielders wrning...take a look...and no...Beltran's untouchable for the time being...

POJO_Risin
06-25-2004, 06:33 PM
Here's the thing here gents...

I'm willing to be the swingman...I've got a bunch of players...and to be honest...I don't necesarily want an awesome player...just one of equal value...that's why every deal I've been sending are 2 for 1's and 3 for 2's...

they've all been good deals...but I've been going after the wrong guys I think...Abreu for wrning...and...lmfao...the big gun from Al...

What about Berkman? I know you're spread thin there...but perhaps we can get you 2 for the price of one...I don't know...

the problem with Berkman is that will now give me three Astros...unless I include Kent in the deal to Al...hmmmm...

ALinChainz
06-25-2004, 06:34 PM
Oh yeah bro, you gotta love the deal that sent him there.

He could be a mon-sta.

POJO_Risin
06-25-2004, 06:35 PM
Damn it...I missed the window...lmfao...

POJO_Risin
06-25-2004, 06:37 PM
Well...Minute Maid is a hitters park...and he's off the charts during interleague...

I'm pleased...and man...what a stacked lineup he's got behind him...

Now if they'll just get fucking Sweeney to San Francisco...

ALinChainz
06-25-2004, 06:41 PM
SF needs SOMEONE behind Bonds, would make a big difference.

Berroa taking a shit this season for the Royals too, I thought he'd be a solid SS.

POJO_Risin
06-25-2004, 06:55 PM
I'm curious to see what Berroa does now that he slides into that slot in the lineup...if he does...

POJO_Risin
06-25-2004, 07:00 PM
Beltran's batting third in that lineup...definately will get more Ribbie opportunities...and has Berkman and Kent and Bagwell behind him...

man...not a bad 3,4,5,6....

ALinChainz
06-25-2004, 07:06 PM
ESPECIALLY ... for home games. Next to Coors, has to be the second best hitters park I would think.

Maybe the dome in MN.

POJO_Risin
06-25-2004, 07:09 PM
The question is...there are better pitchers...and more pitcher's parks in the NL...but that's okay...he can hit the gaps pretty well...

ALinChainz
06-25-2004, 07:11 PM
Houston would do themselves well to try and get him signed now, and not wait for the off season where other teams have a shot.

POJO_Risin
06-25-2004, 07:13 PM
Well...I can't imagine that they'd give up top prospects without that in mind...I think Biggio and Bagwell are both in the last years of their contracts as well...

LMFAO...the fucking Killer B's...

Biggio, Bagwell, Beltran and Berkman

ALinChainz
06-25-2004, 07:19 PM
Nice pick up too as both Biggio and Bagwell are in the mid 30's, and really don't have but maybe a couple more seasons in them tops.

They have the pitching, they can make a serious run.

POJO_Risin
06-25-2004, 07:28 PM
Lidge is a fucking stud...whether he ends up closing or not...he may be the best reliever in baseball...I'd been eyeballing him for awhile now...of course...because I had Dotel...

Dude's on pace for 170 K's...as a reliever...that's insane...

redblkwht
06-25-2004, 07:47 PM
Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
I saw it vetoed this morning...

This league is the most evenly matched one that I have been in....

thats all im saying, ya didnt have to veto it dude
i wanst pissed, just like the balance (read VA's quote).
in which it makes it exciting look at eyes & pojo have gone from
top to lower back to the top, this is an incredible league
dont buzzkill this run, its competetive in which..seems we all
dig.
on my block open for trades

Kerry Wood
Oswalt
Zito

Varitek
Loretta
Kornerko
Bellhorn
Dye
Alou

mind you i dont need a catcher for varitek, id look at
any deal guys-
id like to see a 4 team trade tonight if possible.
pojo, i apologise for setting you off..you coulda done it
i just like our teams in the race. anyone can win this thing.

redblkwht
06-25-2004, 07:49 PM
Ill be back around 9 cst..:smoke2:

POJO_Risin
06-25-2004, 07:58 PM
My point was...

if you wanted to say anything...PM me...and veto the damn trade...

don't call me out for a firesale...when that wasn't what it was at all...

Did you think I was going to start off offering him Beltran and Helton for Gagne anyways?

Had you had been on the line...I would have been trying to deal with you 2 for 1's...it just worked out to Lou...there wasn't one other person from the league here...

and I was highly concerned someone was going to get on and get Lidge...

whatever...like I said...done is done...

wrning isn't going to be online tonight...so perhaps you'll be the third party...

POJO_Risin
06-25-2004, 07:59 PM
Gagne wouldn't have given me any advantage over the guys I was dealing...

Takatsu has been lights out...just doesn't get as many chances yet...

redblkwht
06-25-2004, 11:56 PM
Originally posted by POJO_Risin
My point was...

if you wanted to say anything...PM me...and veto the damn trade...

don't call me out for a firesale...when that wasn't what it was at all...

Did you think I was going to start off offering him Beltran and Helton for Gagne anyways?

Had you had been on the line...I would have been trying to deal with you 2 for 1's...it just worked out to Lou...there wasn't one other person from the league here...

and I was highly concerned someone was going to get on and get Lidge...

whatever...like I said...done is done...

wrning isn't going to be online tonight...so perhaps you'll be the third party... stop dude, its the past now you dont have to
explain..the firesale was towards lou, you thought wrong.
lou was in my opinion opening up his team, IMO-
lou no offence bro, it did look that way.

POJO_Risin
06-26-2004, 12:06 AM
Now how could he have done it...if I seeked him out for the trade...

POJO_Risin
06-26-2004, 12:07 AM
Dude's been getting his ass handed to him...

I offered him two players...

both "sell high candidates"

and he took it...

Lou didn't do shit...

POJO_Risin
06-26-2004, 12:10 AM
And to be frank...why WOULDN'T he do that deal...

He gets a closer for a closer (who's stats are equal...'cept for saves because Takatsu was just made closer)...and another starter...who has the potential to be good if he reverts to last year's form...

It's called sell high...which is what I did...

POJO_Risin
06-26-2004, 12:12 AM
Alright...I'm done with it...

pissed...but done with it...

ALinChainz
06-26-2004, 12:12 AM
Originally posted by POJO_Risin
wrning isn't going to be online tonight...so perhaps you'll be the third party...

I am the party. :D

POJO_Risin
06-26-2004, 12:13 AM
Had a good night from my starters tonight...

looks like I'm going to get 3 W's...

and Santana finally looks like a stud...thanks Va...I had him rated high in my draft...

POJO_Risin
06-26-2004, 12:14 AM
LMFAO Al...We should have about 12 fucking deals by now...;)

We've given each other good deals...just got nothin' done yet...well...the minor deal...

How's Myers pitchin'? That kid's gonna be a good one...

ALinChainz
06-26-2004, 12:25 AM
I think he's won like his last 4 starts, not positive. A nice bonus in addition to D. Young.

The Yanks-Mets ppd tonight, that freakin' sucks.

POJO_Risin
06-26-2004, 12:36 AM
Yeah...well...I hated to get rid of him...but the minuses of making great adds...when you have players on the DL...

POJO_Risin
06-26-2004, 12:39 AM
I've had some good adds this year...

I'm hoping Lidge pan out...

They left Schmidt in to long again...damn it...gave up a 2 run dinger in the 9th...son of a bitch...

POJO_Risin
06-26-2004, 12:40 AM
No complete game...and no fucking ERA under three...

at least he only threw 105 pitches tonight...

ALinChainz
06-26-2004, 12:53 AM
You know now that I think of it, the Phils staff isn't too shabby.

Wolf
Myers
Milton
Millwood

Schmidt got the win though, gotta like that.

POJO_Risin
06-26-2004, 12:54 AM
Don't forget about Padilla...he's out...but a good starter...

POJO_Risin
06-26-2004, 12:55 AM
Yeah...got three of them tonight...and a ton of K's...and not many from Schmidt...must not have had his good stuff tonight...;)

Lou
06-26-2004, 09:37 AM
They're saying here that Padilla will be out for at least a month, and that's a conservative estimate.

Lou
06-26-2004, 09:42 AM
Originally posted by redblkwht
stop dude, its the past now you dont have to
explain..the firesale was towards lou, you thought wrong.
lou was in my opinion opening up his team, IMO-
lou no offence bro, it did look that way.

I wasn't opening up my team at all. POJO offered me the trade and I thought it was a worthwhile trade. The trade proposal came to me out of thin air. I checked the stats. I wasn't going to give Gagne away for hacks. Stop bitching.

Also I'm getting annoyed that you keep saying you're going to offer me trades and you withdraw every single time. How many times have you done that now? Five?

Well you singlehandedly stopped the trade from happening, so be proud. I guess I'm not allowed to try to make my team better if you don't like it. Given that I'm in last place I've gotta try different things. Lest we forget Gagne went over two weeks without a save at one point in May and was completely worthless on my roster.

I was going to trade ONE PLAYER. And I bet if I wanted to trade you Gagne you'd sure as hell entertain it wouldn't you? I don't think you'd say, "Well I don't want to do that because others will think that you're opening up your team, and it'll look bad."

POJO I'd still like to do the trade but I suppose if we're going to have a crybaby it ain't worth it.

POJO_Risin
06-26-2004, 12:21 PM
Lou...another deal will be coming your way forthcoming...

there apparently has to be a name involved...so I'll do that...

POJO_Risin
06-26-2004, 12:23 PM
I'm the one that cancelled the trade because I was pissed off...

We'll get something done here today...

POJO_Risin
06-26-2004, 12:25 PM
On another note...I need to make some small trades...everyone's shooting for the big boys...

I just need filler players...

every trade is getting hung up on the big guns...

I'm going to send a few out there today...and see what happens...

ALinChainz
06-26-2004, 06:23 PM
Sent an offer Troy's way

A pretty darn even trade if I say so myself.

Troy
06-26-2004, 08:27 PM
If it's even then why trade? I'm reluctant to trade because I feel other teams try to lowball me because I don't know as much about baseball as them.

POJO_Risin
06-26-2004, 08:40 PM
LMFAO...well...I think the bottom line of any trade is this...

both people have to feel like they've won...that's why it's so hard...

if you don't...then you cancel the trade...lmfao...that's simple...

ALinChainz
06-26-2004, 09:27 PM
Even means that I tried to make it where we both strengthened an area.

Even would mean that I'm not trying to lowball you either, wouldn't do that.

Seems like POJO and I can't strike a deal with what we have so I figured I would try another team.

ALinChainz
06-26-2004, 09:31 PM
Uh oh commish ... league morale ... has taken a hit.

POJO_Risin
06-26-2004, 10:04 PM
Nah...I don't think so...Troy generally trades...I've dealt with him in both football leagues...as well as basketball leagues...and we've dealt in both...

He isn't a baseball fan...came into this because he's a fantasy junkie...like myself...so he's learning as he goes...

He'll deal...there's no doubt in my mind...

I've got more to say on this...but my 1 month old is hiccuping...and my 2 year old wants to sit on my freakin' lap...lmfao...be on in about 10 minutes to finish this thought...

ALinChainz
06-26-2004, 10:19 PM
lol ... I didn't mean mine. Ive been drinkin and smokin for a couple hours now, so hell Im cool.

Just the non-deal you and Lou had ... caused some confusion, don't want people getting gun shy.

POJO_Risin
06-26-2004, 10:42 PM
Okay...no man...I know you aren't gun shy...

No...I know you aren't pissed...lmfao...and I don't think that Troy is either...

He just thinks he's getting taken at every corner...and I suppose I would too if I didn't follow baseball the way I do...

Troy will deal...he's an ultimate fantasy player...lmfao...

POJO_Risin
06-26-2004, 10:58 PM
Here's the last thing I'm going to say about the proposed deal...

As I said before...I was trying to get a two for one so I could pick up Lidge...before someone saw that he was going to be the closer for Houston...

I was planning on dealing with Al...but the fucker lost power because Michigan is like the backwoods...

Troy wasn't on...Va wasn't on...Lou was on...

there was no collusion...no prior e-mails...I pmed him and said I was going to send him a deal...he said send it...I did...

he accepted...

He wasn't fire selling...I know this because we've pmed a couple of times again today about it...and he still wants to deal.

Of course nobody wants me to get Gagne...I'm in second place...

do I need a closer? not really...I've got four guys I'm perfectly content with. I'm not really sure why nobody thinks Takatsu is worth Gagne...no he has no history here in the states...but he's been lights out...ERA is under 1...and his WHIP is under 1...and the career saves leader in Japan (I know...who cares...but that's history...and he has it as a closer)

he's 3 for 3 in saves (all in the last week and a half since he's been made closer)...they traded Koch to keep him in that role...

he has 2 wins in the past month...

so essentially...his rating in the last month is 39th (and will get better as he got a save tonight)...he's exactly 20 spots lower than Gagne...and will just get better...

I also saw he needed starters...so I threw him a starter...no...not the best starter on my team...one of my bottom three for sure...but...better than nearly all his starters with the exception of Clement.

Would it have improved his team? Yes. Was it collusion or a fire sale...No. Would it have improved my team? Yes.

To me...a fair deal. I generally send deals that I would accept on the other side...and I probably would have if I were in last place...trying to wrap up an abundance of players that could help...

I really could have given a shit about Gagne...I wanted fucking Lidge...I probably would have then tried to trade Gagne...

Let's say I offered up Lidge for Gagne...I bet your ass there would be people that would veto that deal. Now...let's not mention the fact that Lidge has been...bar none...the best relief pitcher in the game this year...just didn't get saves...I've been eyeballing him all year...but fucking hate dropping players...rarely do it...and don't if I don't have to. Dude's on pace to have 170 K's as a reliever...more than 3/4's of the starters...if not more in the league...and HE WAS A FREE AGENT. If someone had been online with Lidge...I'd have been trying to deal for him...

As far as why I dumped the deal. I was pissed off...lmfao...

People aren't going to be gun shy...and I've said from the start of this league...I wasn't going to fucking let dumping go on...

believe me...don't believe me...

Sarge's Little Helper
06-26-2004, 10:58 PM
Here's the last thing I'm going to say about the proposed deal...

As I said before...I was trying to get a two for one so I could pick up Lidge...before someone saw that he was going to be the closer for Houston...

I was planning on dealing with Al...but the fucker lost power because Michigan is like the backwoods...

Troy wasn't on...Va wasn't on...Lou was on...

there was no collusion...no prior e-mails...I pmed him and said I was going to send him a deal...he said send it...I did...

he accepted...

He wasn't fire selling...I know this because we've pmed a couple of times again today about it...and he still wants to deal.

Of course nobody wants me to get Gagne...I'm in second place...

do I need a closer? not really...I've got four guys I'm perfectly content with. I'm not really sure why nobody thinks Takatsu is worth Gagne...no he has no history here in the states...but he's been lights out...ERA is under 1...and his WHIP is under 1...and the career saves leader in Japan (I know...who cares...but that's history...and he has it as a closer)

he's 3 for 3 in saves (all in the last week and a half since he's been made closer)...they traded Koch to keep him in that role...

he has 2 wins in the past month...

so essentially...his rating in the last month is 39th (and will get better as he got a save tonight)...he's exactly 20 spots lower than Gagne...and will just get better...

I also saw he needed starters...so I threw him a starter...no...not the best starter on my team...one of my bottom three for sure...but...better than nearly all his starters with the exception of Clement.

Would it have improved his team? Yes. Was it collusion or a fire sale...No. Would it have improved my team? Yes.

To me...a fair deal. I generally send deals that I would accept on the other side...and I probably would have if I were in last place...trying to wrap up an abundance of players that could help...

I really could have given a shit about Gagne...I wanted fucking Lidge...I probably would have then tried to trade Gagne...

Let's say I offered up Lidge for Gagne...I bet your ass there would be people that would veto that deal. Now...let's not mention the fact that Lidge has been...bar none...the best relief pitcher in the game this year...just didn't get saves...I've been eyeballing him all year...but fucking hate dropping players...rarely do it...and don't if I don't have to. Dude's on pace to have 170 K's as a reliever...more than 3/4's of the starters...if not more in the league...and HE WAS A FREE AGENT. If someone had been online with Lidge...I'd have been trying to deal for him...

As far as why I dumped the deal. I was pissed off...lmfao...

People aren't going to be gun shy...and I've said from the start of this league...I wasn't going to fucking let dumping go on...

believe me...don't believe me...

Oops. I wasn't paying attention. Tell me again what is going on.

ALinChainz
06-26-2004, 10:59 PM
It's cool.

I offered up Bagwell and Posada for Piazza and Giambi.

I saw he had a second solid catcher and thought I would upgrade there and hope He would take Bagwell for Giambi. Giambi hitting in the .240s so thought he might.

I know Piazza playing both 1B and C is a plus though.

POJO_Risin
06-26-2004, 11:04 PM
He offered me up a great deal earlier in the year...a 3 for 1 I believe...going for Schilling....

My advice...give him a starter...and it might lodge out a player...

POJO_Risin
06-26-2004, 11:05 PM
Dude needs some #1's...

ALinChainz
06-26-2004, 11:05 PM
When I think about it, I seriously doubt that anyone in this league would "dump" anyway, being this situation with the site and all.

In those public leagues where you don't know anyone else, you get guys drafting a team just to see if they get a powerhouse or not, and if they don't, they scrap it.

Not worried about that here.

POJO_Risin
06-26-2004, 11:11 PM
Well...there's been dumping in the past...and...lmfao...I've been in the mix before...

This is the first...well...our hoops league this year didn't have any...but more from disinterest...

anyways...this is the first time we've got all 10 players completely involved...probably the least involved player is DLoc (Diamond Derelicts)...but he seems to set up his team every week...

Last year's football league...I started off 10-0...and wanted to fucking go undefeated...so I went after High Life's team for an upgrade...who the fuck did I get...it was a shit deal...but nobody vetoed...so I let it go through...

lmfao...then everyone started throwing players to the other teams...so it turned out that the top five teams ended up getting some folks to help them...it was a feeding frenzy...

there were some other issues as well...but I won't go there...;)

But it was still a good league...but I wasn't going to go there again...

So no...there won't be any bottom feeding or firesales going on this year...

I'll fucking lock up transactions before I let that shit happen..

I can lock teams from trading and dropping...and still let people pick players off the waiver wire...

POJO_Risin
06-26-2004, 11:12 PM
I know Lou wasn't dumping...because like I said before...we've talked today...and he's pissed because the deal didn't go through...

So I'm still going to fucking get Gagne damn it...

POJO_Risin
06-26-2004, 11:13 PM
I need a 2 for 1 for an outfielder....

ALinChainz
06-26-2004, 11:20 PM
Lou is right about Gagne too, I have him on another team and the dude had like 1 save in like 2 and a half weeks. But he's picking it up obviously.

I added Milton to that trade offer, see what Troy thinks.

POJO_Risin
06-26-2004, 11:24 PM
Like I said...he needs starters...

POJO_Risin
06-26-2004, 11:26 PM
He's looking for #1 guys...

lmfao...you don't mind me speaking for you...do you Troy...

ALinChainz
06-26-2004, 11:31 PM
Eric Milton off to a 9-1 so, he may not have started the season as their #1, he is so far.

I got other pitchers if he wants to counter.

Only Graves is untouchable.

POJO_Risin
06-26-2004, 11:35 PM
I think that might get it done...

I know he likes Piazza...lmfao...what's not to like...

POJO_Risin
06-26-2004, 11:37 PM
My computer is fucking pissing me off...

do you have a hotmail account?

ALinChainz
06-26-2004, 11:45 PM
I do. I have messenger.

POJO_Risin
06-26-2004, 11:47 PM
Can you log into it?

I could earlier this afternoon...but now I can't log into any of the MSN shit...not hotmail...espn or messenger...

POJO_Risin
06-26-2004, 11:48 PM
I haven't changed any configurations or anything...christ...wtf...

ALinChainz
06-26-2004, 11:49 PM
Yeah got mine fired up right now.

POJO_Risin
06-26-2004, 11:50 PM
Tribe won again today...

man...their fucking player development staff has been topnotch for over 10 years now...

signing Boone is big...

1. not the best of players...but a sign they'll sign some vets...

2. He's a vet...they are past the we're a young team rebuilding

3. People are willing to goto Cleveland because they know they are on the way...

ALinChainz
06-26-2004, 11:51 PM
Enough to aggravate you isn't it?

None of them work that great, Yahoo just upgraded theirs.

POJO_Risin
06-26-2004, 11:52 PM
son of a bitch...

Something's not right...

ALinChainz
06-26-2004, 11:54 PM
Guys like Hafner, Gerut, Blake, Belliard is insane this year, and what, 3 of their starters in the top 7 in era or some shit.

Boone will be solid on and off.

POJO_Risin
06-26-2004, 11:55 PM
yeah...Yahoo looks and acts remarkably like MSN now...lmfao...

POJO_Risin
06-26-2004, 11:58 PM
Yeah...but CC went down tonight...after the first inning (helps me fantasy wise though...on wrning's team)...

Their best youngsters are still coming up...

Lee is the real deal...but wait until you get aload of Jeremy Guthrie...

So you've got CC (lefty), Lee (powerlefty) topping that rotation...and a fucking slew of youngsters to goto...

now if they could just get a backend to that rotation...

ALinChainz
06-27-2004, 12:00 AM
And solidify their closer.

Seems like thats been unsettled all year.

Riske, Bettencourt, and I don't know who else.

POJO_Risin
06-27-2004, 12:06 AM
That's why I mentioned the backend of that rotation...

Riske started...and bombed...

Bettancourt was next...and bombed...

now Jose Jiminez...and yeah...bombed...

Riske has been lights out the past month though...so he'll get another shot...and he was 7 for 7 last year at the end of the year...

they also have Wickman at somepoint...he's getting shelled at triple A...but he's a solid pitcher...and will be back at some point...

rumor has it they are in the Urbina sweepstakes (almost signed him at the start of the year)

ALinChainz
06-27-2004, 12:10 AM
True story. Shopping him and Jason Johnson also, the guys on our staff with the best potential of landing some solid young players.

Liking the Tigers this season. Then again, after last year ...

POJO_Risin
06-27-2004, 12:15 AM
Well...signing fucking IRod was the snafu of all snafu's for that pitching staff...

I could see Detroit and Cleveland being one of those teams that pester the shit out of the Yanks and Sox the next couple of years...no doubt about it...

ALinChainz
06-27-2004, 12:20 AM
Tigers have been playing to their opposition's level all season long.

Beat the good teams, get owned by the lesser teams.

Pudge has been huge, to say the least, and signing Guillen to the extension for less than he would get on the free agent market is a direct result of that I think.

Troy
06-27-2004, 12:25 AM
I sent a counter Al...

POJO_Risin
06-27-2004, 12:29 AM
Yeah bro...I would agree with you Al...

it's out of John Hart's book...when they signed the entire bulk of the Tribe's stars to multi-year deals before the hit the big time...or while they were doing it...

they took a coupla hits...but kept guys there...longer than they should have...

ALinChainz
06-27-2004, 12:31 AM
Thanks for the counter.

I have Posada to catch, was just after Piazza because he can play first also, like you have him.

Could off up one of these pitchers: Trachsel, Lawrence, or Myers too if you want, that would give you 2 starters, and would make it a 4 for 2, but that's the best I could go.

ALinChainz
06-27-2004, 12:35 AM
Doing it the right way though through the minors, can't beat that.

Their pitching holds up, they will be a bitch to play late in the season.

Tigers need desperately some young pitchers in the minors to start paying off. Hoping Dombrowski can get it done.

POJO_Risin
06-27-2004, 12:46 AM
Yeah...the nice thing about the tribe is that their top four or five minor league players are pitchers...and have some good position players as well...such as Sizemore, peralta and Phillips...

they'll be a solid for years to come...until the big boys hit them...

POJO_Risin
06-27-2004, 12:47 AM
Fucking Dotel got shelled in his first appearance for Oakland...DAMN IT...there goes my fucking lead in WHIP and fucking ERA chance...damn that fucker...

POJO_Risin
06-27-2004, 12:55 AM
Fuck Dotel...that bitch...lmfao...

I thought that guy was going to be the next Rivera...bastard...I wouldn't have dumped Rivera if I knew how bad he was going to be...

what's the call on Urbina bro...is he going to Houston?

ALinChainz
06-27-2004, 12:55 AM
Got the win, but I know what you mean, when a reliever gives up a run. Hope your other starters have been better to take the hit.

POJO_Risin
06-27-2004, 12:57 AM
My starters have been off the charts this week...but so have his...

this one outing is going to fucking kill me...and I didn't need the win...I had that wrapped up...fuck...

ALinChainz
06-27-2004, 12:57 AM
I picked up Kennedy of the Rocks just to get maybe squeeze a cheap one, but the Tribe beat him.

Going to quit doing that.

POJO_Risin
06-27-2004, 12:58 AM
I need to make a fucking deal...lmfao...I'm just looking for another one of those Huff deals we made...a couple of them...

I'm going to fucking get Gagne damn it...I need that roster slot...

POJO_Risin
06-27-2004, 01:00 AM
Yeah bro...that shit never works...if you do it...maybe once every three or four weeks...

I've been curiously watching RBW's team since I got that e-mail to see if it helps...

and it seems to be hurting his ERA and WHIP enough that it's not a good thing...

POJO_Risin
06-27-2004, 01:00 AM
I like the Complete game stat...good pitchers really pay off with that...

ALinChainz
06-27-2004, 01:01 AM
Sooner or later, you throw the right combo of players out there.

It'll happen. Might not happen with me and Troy dealing for Piazza, but then I move on to the next team.

POJO_Risin
06-27-2004, 01:06 AM
Well...we've bantered back some names...and I have a deal ready...

then I'll be one 2 for 1 away from being done...and I may have a taker there...

I'm surprised nobody's come knocking on my door for Renteria...everyone keeps asking for Nomar...

people forget quickly that Renteria was the best fantasy player at short in the NL last year...

he'll rebound...already starting...

ALinChainz
06-27-2004, 01:06 AM
Originally posted by POJO_Risin
I like the Complete game stat...good pitchers really pay off with that...

Getting to be too rare a stat to.

They should let some of these guys go, but all the pitchers they carry, situational shit.

Used to be horses.

ALinChainz
06-27-2004, 01:09 AM
I notice there isn't no deal coming my way ... lol.

I'll have to look and see who I haven't tried to deal with yet.

POJO_Risin
06-27-2004, 01:09 AM
Yeah...that's the way I look at it...I'm fucking relentless with deals...relentless...

I can safely say though...I've gone for five good/even deals this year...

Schilling for Rivera
Halladay for Cabrera
Dunn/Glavine for Schmidt
Wilson for Helton (that was offered to me)
Huff for Young/Myers

There's really only one deal I can say I came out on top of so far...but...all the deals helped me and the team I was dealing with...

POJO_Risin
06-27-2004, 01:19 AM
Yo...Al...I just sent you a PM with some thoughts for you...might help...

POJO_Risin
06-27-2004, 01:26 AM
Al...why aren't we trying to deal?

there's gotta be something we can do...

ALinChainz
06-27-2004, 01:30 AM
We've tried to deal, its been close.

We both seem to ask for that one player the other guy doesn't want to move.

But you never know, maybe strike a deal with another team, get a different look, and then sometimes it works.

ALinChainz
06-27-2004, 01:42 AM
Sent one to Lou.

I'll go another Phillie pitcher if I have to.

Counter if you want Lou, or reject, no sweat either way.

POJO_Risin
06-27-2004, 01:51 AM
I have a couple of deals in the works...then we'll see...

POJO_Risin
06-27-2004, 01:53 AM
Yo...Al...what's the e-mail addy you use for MSN...

ALinChainz
06-27-2004, 02:11 AM
Cancelled the first one, sending new.

Counter, reject, understand it either way.

POJO_Risin
06-27-2004, 02:21 AM
Lou...another one's coming your way as well...

Fairwrning
06-27-2004, 10:18 AM
Originally posted by POJO_Risin
Fucking Dotel got shelled in his first appearance for Oakland...DAMN IT...there goes my fucking lead in WHIP and fucking ERA chance...damn that fucker...

dude..you're up 10-1..relax...my season is fucked...Hudson/Sabathia both goin on the DL...fuck it..im cursed at this shit anymore..Im pretty much disgusted to the point of this being my last fantasy season...period...

POJO_Risin
06-27-2004, 12:48 PM
I didn't figure that I'd end up with a lead after homeboy gave up 4 runs in a little over an inning...

what the hell do I know...

lmfao wrning...you are certainly cursed...

POJO_Risin
06-27-2004, 12:51 PM
Hudson's going on the DL? No shit...and what happened with CC?

Hey man...it's freakin' halfway through the season...there's a long way to go...

you just have to get in the top six brotha...than it's all even steven again...

POJO_Risin
06-27-2004, 12:59 PM
I know he left after the first inning with shoulder tightness...but I think they said day to day..."minor shoulder irritation,"

shit...I didn't know Hudson was out...ouch...stomach? WTF is that?

ALinChainz
06-27-2004, 01:47 PM
Described as mild. He could pitch but wouldn't be 100%.

Might just be roster manuvering making a spot for Dotel.

Doesn't want it to linger so going on the DL now.

POJO_Risin
06-27-2004, 02:07 PM
Last year...he pitched through some pain...and it ended up putting him on the DL for an exteded period of time...

Probably just a precautionary thing...and it's probably retroactive...so he'll be back soon..probably miss 2 starts tops...

ALinChainz
06-27-2004, 02:18 PM
I read that he may be scrapping his All Star plans even.

I need a big day today.

POJO_Risin
06-27-2004, 02:21 PM
I just need a good day...I had a fantastic offensive day the past two days...that's gotten me ahead...that pleases me...

and Dotel didn't kill me like I thought he would...my other closers more or less offset him...

Eyes of the Night
06-28-2004, 01:30 AM
I think my pitching staff IS set after pulling an RBW the past few weeks ...

Contreas I think pulled me ahead in K's today ... freagin' 10 and a win! Plus the fact his FAM is in the USA now, will be solid the rest of da year imho ...


I came WAY back from an early 10-1 deficit with VHBeach this week ... couldn't let him hand me what he did last time 2-9-1 ...


Getting rather drunk tonight!




Cheers ...




:gulp:



Why doesn't anybody want to trade with me? ... Bonds is on sale for cheap this month!;) ...


MSN messenger= jonesey5150@hotmail
Yahooshit= Eyes5150



Have a nice day you no good bastards!

POJO_Risin
06-28-2004, 01:40 AM
Yo...Eyes...we've already dealt my brutha!

I'll check your team...

POJO_Risin
06-28-2004, 01:42 AM
Jesus Christ Eyes...could you have ANY more pitchers...lmfao...

redblkwht
06-28-2004, 01:47 AM
dont use me as a example..lol im experimenting.:smoke2: :hitch:

redblkwht
06-28-2004, 01:47 AM
of course till kerry wood comes back..lol

POJO_Risin
06-28-2004, 01:53 AM
I was reading an article somewhere saying Wood was thinking about shutting it down for the year to get his arm healthy...

he said it was bullshit...

Eyes of the Night
06-28-2004, 01:59 AM
Dude Red, I learned it from watching you!;)


:gulp:

Eyes of the Night
06-28-2004, 02:01 AM
Originally posted by POJO_Risin
Jesus Christ Eyes...could you have ANY more pitchers...lmfao...

They are all worthy no? ... I dunno man, I go for K's

POJO_Risin
06-28-2004, 02:04 AM
LMFAO Eyes...I didn't look at the names...I did check out Rivera to see how he was doing...that dude is flat awesome...when he's healthy...

POJO_Risin
06-28-2004, 02:16 AM
Yeah...you have some damn fine pitchers to be honest...2 or three that suck balls...but they're the ones you've been rotating in and out of your lineup...

Eyes of the Night
06-28-2004, 02:47 AM
Word Risin' ...

Thanks man ...


Trade of the year has just been set!;) ...


Ya'll like apples? ... How you like them apples? ...



:gulp:

POJO_Risin
06-28-2004, 02:57 AM
I can't wait to see this...does it involve Bonds?

Eyes of the Night
06-28-2004, 02:59 AM
Look and see hoss ... just edit your lineup ... and Clemens;) ...


:gulp:

Eyes of the Night
06-28-2004, 03:01 AM
I'll speculate further after the trade is dealt ... 9am central as I'm told ...


:gulp:

POJO_Risin
06-28-2004, 03:06 AM
Why would you speculate...AFTER I know the deal...lmfao...

I can't wait to see this...

after I see it...I'll make sure to speculate...

by the way...this is a good way to drum up some interest...you got someone dragging their feet on a deal (I can only assume I know, being it's Central time we're talkin' about)...perhaps we can push it up a bit?...

of course...I can't do that if I don't know who we're talking about...

Eyes of the Night
06-28-2004, 03:12 AM
I won't specualte for reasons of my own ...


Draggin' feet? ... done deal pretty much just wanted ya'll to bask in it for a bit ... the one's who didn't get the #1 player ...


:gulp:

Eyes of the Night
06-28-2004, 03:13 AM
Besides, when any trade is offered it always shows up when I'm editing my lineup ... you cunt see it? ... trippy


:gulp:

POJO_Risin
06-28-2004, 03:15 AM
I suspect I know the deal...sounds like a fine deal...I can't believe he got someone to ante up the price...

Eyes of the Night
06-28-2004, 03:17 AM
Of course he hasn't pushed the "agree" button yet ... that's prob why you can't see it or push it up ...

Eyes of the Night
06-28-2004, 03:18 AM
Zitto for Clemens? ... lol, pretty much;) ...


:gulp:

POJO_Risin
06-28-2004, 03:19 AM
Eyes...you speak your own language...and sure as fuck walk to a beat of a different drum...

I can't understand 3/4 of the shit you are trying to say...lmfao...

POJO_Risin
06-28-2004, 03:20 AM
No...he hasn't...because I'd have had the e-mail the second he did it...as commish...;)

POJO_Risin
06-28-2004, 03:21 AM
I'm 2 or 3 players away from having the team I want...and one of them is on my DL...

Eyes of the Night
06-28-2004, 03:31 AM
Originally posted by POJO_Risin
I can't understand 3/4 of the shit you are trying to say...lmfao...

Classic Eyes then eh commish ...

If you knew why you playing dumb? ...

Fuck man, I cracked my last brew just for you man ... wtf ...


:gulp:

POJO_Risin
06-28-2004, 03:35 AM
No dude...I don't know...the e-mail hasn't been sent...so it hasn't been accepted yet...

Eyes of the Night
06-28-2004, 03:38 AM
Originally posted by POJO_Risin
I'm 2 or 3 players away from having the team I want...and one of them is on my DL...

Interesting ... I'm in that same light so to speak ... so you could understand the enthusiasm(sp?) on my part ...

A blockbuster deal in my drunken mind ... hell, he could wake up tommorrow and say, "what the fuck is this?" ...

and yes you are digging out my "speculitation" on this trade ...


I'm buzzed west coast time ... you must be hella buzzed too ya east coaster ...

Eyes of the Night
06-28-2004, 03:42 AM
Hellfuckinglo then ...

Vlad
Alou
Zitto

for ...

Clemens
Bonds
Ichiro



I'm fed up with 3/4ths of my trade to him ... watch it backfire with Vladdy and his bum knee ...

Ichiro? Who's that? ... M's? Who are they again? ... Non contenders ...


I have Red's word, so let the speculating begin ...



:gulp:

POJO_Risin
06-28-2004, 03:43 AM
Well...good luck with the deal my brutha...hope it all works out for ya...

POJO_Risin
06-28-2004, 03:44 AM
I'm still working out a couple as we speak...we shall see...

POJO_Risin
06-28-2004, 03:48 AM
It's a good deal I guess...

Bonds/Vlad...don't really lose or gain a whole hell of a lot on either side of it...injury issues on both sides...both teams about the same talent wise...

Zito/Clemens...Clemens wins that side...say what you want about Zito...but if you look at his last 40 starts...he's only won 15 of them...give or take 1 or 2...not that impressive...Clemens is Clemens...

Alou/Ichiru...well...you gain power...lose speed and ultimately average...depends on what you need...I think Suzuki offers more of a sure thing...I get wary of Alou's health...

there's my take...and I'm sticking to it...;)

Eyes of the Night
06-28-2004, 03:51 AM
Coo. coo ...

Power is all I'm gaining and is all I really need for this homestretch ...


I need Hr's and rbi's like a mo fo ...


:gulp:

POJO_Risin
06-28-2004, 03:53 AM
Even deal then...

Eyes of the Night
06-28-2004, 03:55 AM
Yeah, I'm glad that took a page and a half to explain n' shit! ... Good god ya'll!!! ...









:gulp:

POJO_Risin
06-28-2004, 03:59 AM
People get all secretive and shit about deals...like someone's going to try and steal it...

lmfao...one thing I've found out about these leagues...people would rather hang on...than swing a deal...

I worry abour RBW...I remember him sleeping on an Isringhausen for Oswalt deal...never heard from him about it again...;)

it's alright...it spurred me onto the Halladay/Schmidt acquisitions...

Eyes of the Night
06-28-2004, 04:06 AM
One thing about me is that I'm down to earth and there's NO need for panties being in a bunch seeing it's a FREE fookin' league ...

Wtf, this is how I see it ... if I lose this then that's the last from Red and his word ...





8th brew going on 9 folks ...

POJO_Risin
06-28-2004, 04:15 AM
LMFAO...

you should see me in my pay league...there have been confrontations...

Eyes of the Night
06-28-2004, 04:20 AM
Crazy, crazy shit ... and could see why you're pushing for a =VH= keeper league in foosball ...

I'll have money for a pay league in Nov ... for anything after the next football league ...

I understand keeper and pay are 2 different thangs ...


So you know ... or I know for that fact ...


Drizunk!


:gulp:



and wella stoned too!

POJO_Risin
06-28-2004, 04:25 AM
Well...it doesn't have to be a pay league...just a keeper...and an ante up for a better stat service...if we go with 12 teams...that would be...20 bucks a team for a good stat service...

Eyes of the Night
06-28-2004, 04:29 AM
Stat service huh ... wella, I can always wait for results not real time results ... that's me though ...

20 bones is no prob though and see myself being a payer ...


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POJO_Risin
06-28-2004, 04:34 AM
It's not for the stat service...it's so we can set up conferences instead of one big one...like we had with full blitz the first year we played...

we can set the draft up better...

forums...other than this one in case we need it...

of course...the live stats...

can set the league stats better...

for 20 clams...it's not a bad deal...

Eyes of the Night
06-28-2004, 04:40 AM
Badass ... well worth it yup ...


Damn, at least I didn't fall as bad too VHBF this week as the first time ... 5-6-1 and back to 6th I go ...

We have a new #1 ... just see how long it stands eh there Risin';) ...



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Eyes of the Night
06-28-2004, 04:41 AM
Jr's 0-24 lost my AVG fo' sure! ...

Woulda been even steven ...

POJO_Risin
06-28-2004, 04:43 AM
Probably not long...going to check it out...

I don't have enough offense to do it this year...

Eyes of the Night
06-28-2004, 04:46 AM
Your second straight 11 win week dogg! Holy crap! Lmfao, grats dude ...

POJO_Risin
06-28-2004, 04:47 AM
Christ...I had to go fucking 22-1-1 the last two weeks...and I'm only up a game and a half...

christ...

lucky 2 weeks in a row...playing a couple of teams that were down on their luck with injuries and shit...

someone's going to be handing me my ass soon...lmfao...

POJO_Risin
06-28-2004, 04:49 AM
I've had three weeks...in which I've gone 32-1-3 I think...

you take that out...and I'm probably in last place...lmfao...

I went from 5th to first in 2 weeks...so you can see how quickly things can change...

started 2nd...dropped to 7th...back up to first...

this league is fucking crazy...

POJO_Risin
06-28-2004, 04:51 AM
Just to show you my point...here's my stats from this week...

The Raleigh Tribe 30 62 10 38 3 .288 7 1 5 56 3.26 1.06 11

Eyes of the Night
06-28-2004, 04:51 AM
Funny, I've been at .500 ball all year ...

Christ though, 84-51!? ... Tie's are fookin' me up bad ... at 16




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POJO_Risin
06-28-2004, 04:55 AM
Just to show you my point...here's my stats from this week...

The Raleigh Tribe 30 62 10 38 3 .288 7 1 5 56 3.26 1.06 11

and here's RBW's

Wrigleyville Blues 41 60 13 41 2 .270 7 1 4 62 3.15 1.28 10

I go 5-5-2 based on that...

just played the right team...and wrning just had a bad week...

Eyes of the Night
06-28-2004, 04:57 AM
Alrighty then, until next time kids Eyes is passed out like a light ...

:gulp:

POJO_Risin
06-28-2004, 04:58 AM
Here's Troy:

The Hairy Clams 34 69 7 33 2 .358 3 0 7 60 3.93 1.45 7

I go 7-5 against Troy...

POJO_Risin
06-28-2004, 05:03 AM
WeRFamulee'79 37 71 11 42 1 .305 6 0 4 38 4.13 1.39 6

and I go 7-5 against Va and he sweeps me on offense 'cept for SB's...

I just played the right team...or I'd still be in third...

kind of why I like Roto better than head to head...

You can legitimately be a third place team...and win the whole fucking deal without ever playing better than the top 2...

I'm a case in point...

POJO_Risin
06-28-2004, 12:05 PM
Where's this deal guys?

Fairwrning
06-28-2004, 12:11 PM
man..i wish Steinbrenner had wanted Garcia more....at least he's out of Seattle..

Fairwrning
06-28-2004, 12:12 PM
nice asswhippin ya handed me Pojo..you fucker:fucku2:

POJO_Risin
06-28-2004, 12:21 PM
Dude...you know as well as I do if you have a normal week...and all 10 of your pitchers don't go down with muscle tears...we split...

I just got a lucky break that your offense shit the bed this week...and your entire staff missed starts...

POJO_Risin
06-28-2004, 12:22 PM
PM me back bro...and I'll show you his stats for the last month...

POJO_Risin
06-28-2004, 11:04 PM
Great deal by Eyes and RBW...if nobody bitches about it...I'll push it through tonight or tomorrow...

post it here though if you don't give a shit...

Lou
06-28-2004, 11:05 PM
Maybe I should bitch about it :rolleyes:

POJO_Risin
06-28-2004, 11:12 PM
LMFAO....

POJO_Risin
06-28-2004, 11:13 PM
Just out of curiousity Lou...what else are you looking for?...I've got an abundance of outfielders...hell...and abundance of players...I'm looking for one more 2 for 1 deal...

POJO_Risin
06-28-2004, 11:14 PM
I have another one out there right now...that hasn't been returned yet...but you could always beat him to the punch...;)

POJO_Risin
06-29-2004, 11:50 PM
Anyone for trade talks?

Just curious...nobody's been posting...you know I'll deal...just let me know...

redblkwht
06-30-2004, 12:03 AM
I may be, still lurkin about..going to see clemens once again at wrigley
boy they pulled one out today, see the in the field park HR?
nice bs'ing by alou..bad sales job he was busted..LMMFAO
check espn highlights tonight dude you'll die laughing!
hopefully Clement earns his pay tomorrow he's overdue
but i feel for him going against all the #1's now.:(
ill look you over again..lol-

POJO_Risin
06-30-2004, 12:06 AM
Well RBW...I like Clement...and it will work out for him down the line...him going up against #4's instead of #1's makes him incredibly good...

ALinChainz
06-30-2004, 12:10 AM
You?

Deal?

POJO_Risin
06-30-2004, 12:13 AM
LMFAO...I'll trade anything...I know what I need...just don't know where to go looking for it...

I see you got your donor tag...

ALinChainz
06-30-2004, 12:19 AM
Damn skippy.

Donatin' and Sammy hatin'.

Bro, I've sent you deal after deal after deal after deal .... after ...

Earth shaking, big name, block bustin', league shatterin'...

Seems like ...lol

POJO_Risin
06-30-2004, 12:24 AM
I'll trade anything...anywhere...

cept Kent...

and to Al...

LMFAO...

you haven't sent me a deal I haven't thought was a good one...just asking for players I can't deal...lmfao...

ALinChainz
06-30-2004, 12:27 AM
LMAO ... you mean like A-Rod ...

POJO_Risin
06-30-2004, 12:33 AM
Yeah...kind of like him...

ALinChainz
06-30-2004, 12:39 AM
I'm right at the page to start a trade, what is it you need ...

Damn, looking at your team, you got everybody ...

redblkwht
06-30-2004, 01:07 AM
Originally posted by POJO_Risin
I'll trade anything...anywhere...

cept Kent...

and to Al...

LMFAO...

you haven't sent me a deal I haven't thought was a good one...just asking for players I can't deal...lmfao...
Kent may go on the DL it looked like he pulled up on his hammy
tonight..deal him, i would ;)

redblkwht
06-30-2004, 01:08 AM
Originally posted by redblkwht
Kent may go on the DL it looked like he pulled up on his hammy
tonight..deal him, i would ;)
BTW they took him out of the game in like the 2nd inning...