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FORD
10-28-2004, 05:21 PM
Washington Redskins-election correlation dates to 1933

By JOSEPH WHITE, AP Sports Writer
Last Updated: October 27, 2004, 02:07:12 PM PDT

ASHBURN, Va. (AP) - This election season, Washington Redskins cornerback Fred Smoot has a predicament: For Kerry to win, the Redskins have to lose on Sunday - at least according to a bizarre statistical correlation that's been accurate for seven decades.

"We've got to win this game no doubt, but I'm hoping John Kerry can kind of reverse the curse," Smoot said. "I'm wishing him luck, man. This is the millennium for all trends to be broken."

Since the Redskins became the Redskins in 1933, the result of the team's final home game before the presidential election has correctly predicted the White House winner. If the Redskins win, the incumbent party wins. If they lose, the incumbent party is ousted.

"It's kind of amazing," coach Joe Gibbs said. "You wouldn't think something like that would line up that many times."

Gibbs said the statistic doesn't really mean anything, but he can at least pretend that it does - because he's solidly in the Bush camp.

"Hopefully we'll have a lot of people pulling for us," said Gibbs, who voted when he traveled to his North Carolina home over the weekend. It was the Redskins bye week.

Democratic vice presidential candidate John Edwards has been quoted as saying he's rooting for the Green Bay Packers, the Redskins' opponent on Sunday. While no doubt thankful for the endorsement, Green Bay coach Mike Sherman is concerned about more rudimentary matters, such as the health of quarterback Brett Favre.

"It's going to take a lot more than Packers fans to determine the outcome of an election," Sherman said.

The locker room, particularly in Washington, isn't immune to political discussions in this politically charged year. Tackle Jon Jansen recently showed up for a game wearing a Bush pin on his shirt.

Most players, however, are reluctant to go public with the views. Quarterback Mark Brunell made his preference for Bush known earlier this week, but he backed off when asked about it again Wednesday.

"I don't know if it was very smart," Brunell said, "so I'm going to keep it quiet right now."

One reason for the reluctance could be the financial question. Ray Brown, a 19-year veteran, has seen many teammates conflicted over whether to switch allegiances based on their tax bracket.

"It's a dilemma," said Brown, who has an absentee ballot for California. "I think you'll see guys vote across the lines."

Although his political leanings are known, Gibbs can't take sides as the leader of the team. He said he followed politics closely during his 12-year absence from the NFL, but that he never considered running for office himself.

"I've invited enough nightmares into my life," the coach said with a laugh.

Until recently, the Redskins had been the subject of another political quirk. For 52 years - from 1946 to 1998 - they failed to make the playoffs under a Democratic administration. That one went by the wayside when the team won the NFC East in 1999, when Bill Clinton was president.

Some players are puzzled by all the talk of the election - and how the team's success seems coincidentally tied to it.

"I'm not much into politics," linebacker Marcus Washington said. "All I know is this is going to be a tough week for us. Brett Favre's going to be tough. Ahman Green's tough. Those are two tough candidates right there."

But the passions are spirited among other players, begging the question: If the Redskins were a state, who would get its electoral votes?

"We have a couple of Bush guys. We have a couple of Kerry guys," linebacker Lemar Marshall said. "This is one of those swing teams."

Lqskdiver
10-28-2004, 07:36 PM
Geezuz, FORD, this is just poor desperation on your part. You portray a picture of immaturity when you post this crap and just shows you're willing to put your faith on mumble jumbo.....

oh what the hell.....


GO REDSKINS!!

http://www.redskins.com/images/common/header-homepage3.jpg

FORD
10-28-2004, 08:17 PM
You do realize they'll kick you out of Texas for that ;)

Flash Bastard
10-28-2004, 09:13 PM
Originally posted by Lqskdiver
Geezuz, FORD, this is just poor desperation on your part. You portray a picture of immaturity when you post this crap and just shows you're willing to put your faith on mumble jumbo.....



I've been asking my Magic 8 Ball who the winner will be, but it just continues to avoid answering the question directly.

Reminds me of John Kerry.

Lqskdiver
10-28-2004, 10:09 PM
You beat me to the avatar!

;)

Flash Bastard
10-28-2004, 10:44 PM
You likey? Me likey.

knuckleboner
10-28-2004, 10:54 PM
well, ashcroft would be proud...i'm definitely rooting for the skins this sunday...:D

FORD
10-31-2004, 02:32 PM
Your Halftime score:

Packers - 17

Redskins - 7

Warham
10-31-2004, 03:00 PM
If it went back to the early 1800's, I might give a shit.

I don't believe in things like this.

Remember, the Red Sox just won the World Series.

FORD
10-31-2004, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by Warham


Remember, the Red Sox just won the World Series.

And the Patriots won the Super Bowl.

Notice the common link there? ;)

FORD
10-31-2004, 04:23 PM
**FINAL SCORE**

Packers 28
Redskins 14

:cool:

Mezro
10-31-2004, 05:43 PM
Thank you Green Bay.

Mezro...the Skins slacked and now GWB must pack...

Viking
10-31-2004, 07:54 PM
My 'Skins losing has about as much to do with the election as a 'curse' on the Boston Red Sox. No, it has to do with the fact that the Redskins offense SUCKS DEAD BEAR this year. Brunell needs to spray some Pledge on his ass and go polish the bench. Jesus, I bet Hasselbeck could generate more offense, and he's carrying Ramsey's clipboard. :rolleyes:

BigBadBrian
11-03-2004, 10:13 PM
Originally posted by FORD
**FINAL SCORE**

Packers 28
Redskins 14

:cool:


FORD, I wouldn't get too excited over your trip to sit on Santa's lap this year. :D

FORD
11-03-2004, 10:19 PM
Hey, if Diebold made scoreboards for football stadiums, the Redskins would have been listed as the winner of that game by Sunday night.

Of course a video of the game would exist as a tangible record. Unlike the votes in Ohio.

BrownSound1
11-03-2004, 10:25 PM
Well, one less "sign" that incumbent Presidents have to worry about.

diamondD
11-03-2004, 10:39 PM
They admitted they made a mistake on that call, so if they had gotten it right, the Redskins would have won and the legend would have lived on.

Those damn DCE paid refs did their part, but the BCE out-eviled them. Checkmate!

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAH :D

FORD
11-03-2004, 10:40 PM
DCE? :confused:

diamondD
11-03-2004, 10:43 PM
Democratic Crybaby Empire. ;)

Warham
11-04-2004, 07:25 AM
Well, we know curses and superstitions are never right.

Let this one die out like the curse of the Babe.

RIP.