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ELVIS
11-06-2004, 12:48 PM
By LOIS WEISS (http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/31816.htm)

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November 6, 2004 -- Former President Bill Clinton, in his first comments on President Bush's re-election, yesterday urged Democrats not to "whine" about the outcome, but to find a "clear national message."
Clinton also said that Democrat John Kerry was hurt by the polarizing issue of gay marriage, which was legalized by Massachusetts' top court and put on the ballot in 11 states, and the surfacing of a tape from Osama bin Laden in the final days of the race.

Reminded of terrorism by the bin Laden tape, voters decided they didn't want to "change horses" during a time of heightened concern over national security, Clinton said in a speech to the Urban Land Institute at the New York Hilton.

Clinton said Hispanic voters tilted to Bush because of terrorism fears, as did suburban "soccer moms," who Clinton said turned into "the security moms of 2004."

He also said that while Democrats registered more new voters than Republicans, the Bush campaign did a better job of getting voters to the polls who were already registered but had not previously voted.

Despite the GOP victory, the former president — whose wife Hillary is already being mentioned as the top contender for the White House in 2008 — said Democrats "shouldn't be all that discouraged" by Kerry's defeat.

Clinton said it would be "a mistake for our party to sit around and . . . whine about this and that or the other thing."

Clinton attributed Kerry's loss to the Democrats' failure to combat how they were portrayed by Republicans to small-town America.

"If we let people believe that our party doesn't believe in faith and family, doesn't believe in work and freedom, that's our fault," he said.

Democrats "need a clear national message, and they have to do this without one big advantage the Republicans have, which is they won't have a theological message that basically paints the other guy as evil," he said.

Clinton said the country was more divided than it was in 1968 and called for an end to the "culture war."

In his hourlong speech Clinton, who had open-heart surgery in September, gave Bush and the Republicans full credit for the election victory.

"The Republicans had a clear message, a good messenger, great organization and great strategy," he said.

Clinton said Bush should use his second term to move toward less dependence on foreign oil.

"This election presents a great opportunity for President Bush and a great opportunity for Democrats, and the two are not necessarily in conflict," he said.

The biggest opportunity he noted was the prospect of an Israeli-Palestinian peace amid the impending demise of Yasser Arafat.

Peace in the region would "take enormous steam" out of Islamic fundamentalist terrorism worldwide, Clinton said. "They would have to think of a new excuse to murder people."




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Lou
11-06-2004, 01:17 PM
I thought I heard something where Clinton told Kerry to say he was against gay marriage as that really hurt him.

ELVIS
11-06-2004, 01:20 PM
You are correct, sir...

FORD
11-06-2004, 01:23 PM
Originally posted by ELVIS


Democrats "need a clear national message, and they have to do this without one big advantage the Republicans have, which is they won't have a theological message that basically paints the other guy as evil," he said.

And this proves how pathetic the Busheep truly are. That a cabal of criminals who lie, cheat, steal, and MURDER at will can cast themselves as paragons of moral virtue while painting "liberals" as "evil" and you stupid FAUX brainwashed fucks BUY IT???

Clinton said the country was more divided than it was in 1968 and called for an end to the "culture war."

Fat chance Bill. It's all the neocons HAVE to run on. Paranoid fears of "sodomites" and "baby killers"

Clinton said Bush should use his second term to move toward less dependence on foreign oil.

Right.... and that will happen about the same time McDonalds switches to an all vegetarian menu. The BCE **IS** the oil industry. And as long as these fascists control the GOP there will be no change in energy policies.

"This election presents a great opportunity for President Bush and a great opportunity for Democrats, and the two are not necessarily in conflict," he said.

The biggest opportunity he noted was the prospect of an Israeli-Palestinian peace amid the impending demise of Yasser Arafat.

Peace in the region would "take enormous steam" out of Islamic fundamentalist terrorism worldwide, Clinton said. "They would have to think of a new excuse to murder people."

And the BCE will be more than happy to manaufacture that excuse. Without the facade of the "war on terra" even the most brain dead backwater hillbilly will be able to see through their lies.

ELVIS
11-06-2004, 01:27 PM
Take notice FORD, at how much more optimistic Clinton is than yourself...

..and whoever said liberals are evil ??

You ??

FORD
11-06-2004, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by ELVIS
Take notice FORD, at how much more optimistic Clinton is than yourself...

Bill Clinton's a politician, and he talks like one. No surprise there.

..and whoever said liberals are evil ??


Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, Mush Limpdick, Sean Hannazi, Anndrew Coulter, Cathedral, just to name a few.

ELVIS
11-06-2004, 01:38 PM
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Bike ride time for ELVIS...;)


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Nickdfresh
11-06-2004, 01:39 PM
He must have finally "inhaled."

Nickdfresh
11-06-2004, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by ELVIS
Take notice FORD, at how much more optimistic Clinton is than yourself...

..and whoever said liberals are evil ??

You ??

Clinton knows when when you are followed by an incompetent jack-off, you look that much better.:D

Warham
11-06-2004, 01:40 PM
Liberals aren't evil...they just don't know what's right for this country, that's all.

FORD
11-06-2004, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by Warham
Liberals aren't evil...they just don't know what's right for this country, that's all.

Conservatives are the ones who don't know what's right for the country.

The fact that they wasted 6 years trying to bring down Bill Clinton while the country was doing better than ever is all the evidence you need of that.

Nickdfresh
11-06-2004, 01:49 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Conservatives are the ones who don't know what's right for the country.

The fact that they wasted 6 years trying to bring down Bill Clinton while the country was doing better than ever is all the evidence you need of that.

I've heard some counter-terrorist officials say that Ken Starr's witch hunt contributed to 9/11 by placing Clinton under constant strain and causing to fear a risky military counter-terrorist commando strike that could result in casualities, and hence more fodder for the Republican zealot attack machine.:mad:

Big Train
11-06-2004, 01:50 PM
NO I need a little more than that Ford.

Clinton was riding high cause Reagan and Bush Sr. Set it up that way....all Bill had to do was not touch the controls...which was good as he had other things to occupy his time.

Warham
11-06-2004, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Conservatives are the ones who don't know what's right for the country.

The fact that they wasted 6 years trying to bring down Bill Clinton while the country was doing better than ever is all the evidence you need of that.

Doing better than ever in a bubble economy with the biggest tax rates in this nation's history.

Not to mention, he passed off a recession to Bush. Thanks Slick Willy!

FORD
11-06-2004, 01:59 PM
The recession began in March of 2001. FAUX news has even said so, repeatedly (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&client=firefox-a&as_qdr=all&q=recession+March+2001+site%3Awww.foxnews.com&btnG=Search)

Warham
11-06-2004, 02:45 PM
Gee, FORD, do you think the EIGHT years prior to that had anything to do with that, especially since Clinton left the office Jan 20, 2001?

Ally_Kat
11-06-2004, 03:03 PM
your first two years in office are generally shaped by the guy who was there before you and what he did there

Switch84
11-06-2004, 03:04 PM
Originally posted by Big Train
NO I need a little more than that Ford.

Clinton was riding high cause Reagan and Bush Sr. Set it up that way....all Bill had to do was not touch the controls...which was good as he had other things to occupy his time.


Like this.....

jhale667
11-06-2004, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by Warham
Liberals aren't evil...they just don't know what's right for this country, that's all.


Nor do the ultra-conservatives.

HELLVIS
11-06-2004, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, Mush Limpdick, Sean Hannazi, Anndrew Coulter, Cathedral, just to name a few.

You named Cathedral, nut not me. What gives? :confused:

fanofdave
11-06-2004, 06:32 PM
you can't even take some advice from your former
president clinton, can you, FORD? enjoy the migraines
from stewing in your hatred for Bush, then.

KERRY/EDWARDS 2004
THE STENCH OF CAMPAIGN FAILURE

LickMyCream
11-06-2004, 07:16 PM
So you think um engaging in a needless war right while STILL enganged in another war, Cutting taxes, yet spending more, had nothing to do with making our economy shit?

ELVIS
11-06-2004, 07:31 PM
The economy is doing well...

John Ashcroft
11-06-2004, 07:49 PM
Actually, it's doing great.

Nickdfresh
11-06-2004, 08:28 PM
Originally posted by John Ashcroft
Actually, it's doing great.

Yeah', in India and China!

DEMON CUNT
11-06-2004, 08:44 PM
Yes!

IT'S ALL TOTALLY CLINTON'S FUCKING FAULT!

We Dems had an agenda! But after the blowjob bust! (And we know how you hayseed conservatives hate blowjobs!) He went down.

Our Clinton Conspiracy resulted in:

A long (and for the most part) peaceful time in the world.
A booming economy unlike any in history.
A buget surplus inlike any in history.

You guys are right. Leberals and Democrats sure suck at the whole Book of Revelations thing.

Bush is helping to bring about the Biblical ending that you all have been learning about in Sunday school all these years! Praise Be! The Bible IS true!

Viva the Apocalypse!

DC

P.S. Don't mess with Texas!