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lucky wilbury
11-19-2004, 01:22 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,139060,00.html

Exclusive: Kerry Says UBL Tape Cost Him Election

Friday, November 19, 2004



NEW YORK — John Kerry (search) believes he lost to President Bush because of the video from Usama bin Laden (search) that surfaced just days before the Nov. 2 presidential election.

The Massachusetts senator told FOX News' senior correspondent Geraldo Rivera that he believes he lost because the tape may have scared the American electorate.

Rivera spoke to Kerry on Thursday as the senator and a slew of other notable names — including wife Teresa Heinz Kerry, actors Robin Williams and Morgan Freeman and comedian Chris Tucker — were in a holding room prior to the processional leading up to the formal opening of the Clinton Presidential Library in Little Rock, Ark.

"Tough luck, Senator," Rivera said to Kerry, referring to the Democrat's election loss.

Trying to recount Kerry's words verbatim, Rivera said Kerry responded by saying:

"It was that Usama tape- it scared them [the American people]."

Rivera said Kerry said the tape came out too late for his camp to rebut and the Democratic campaign couldn't counteract it in time for the Tuesday election.

"Sen. Kerry clearly believes not only is it the security issue that cost him the election, but very specifically the Usama tapes coming out in the 11th hour," Rivera reported Friday.

Kerry also acknowledged that the security issue in general hurt him in the race, Rivera said.

The broadcast of the tape from the Al Qaeda leader jolted the campaign's closing days, accentuating the terrorism theme with a reminder of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

In the tape, aired by the Arab television network Al-Jazeera, bin Laden spoke directly to the American people. He admitted for the first time that he carried out the Sept. 11 attacks and said the attacks would have been less severe if Bush had been more alert.

He promised to lay out "the best way to avoid another Manhattan" and told Americans, "Your security is not in the hands of Kerry or Bush or Al Qaeda. Your security is in your own hands."

The tape caused Kerry to revive his contention that Bush missed an opportunity to capture or kill bin Laden during the Afghan war. The Democratic challenger asserted throughout the campaign that U.S. forces could have run down bin Laden in the Tora Bora (search) mountains in late 2001 if they had gone after him on the ground, and he blamed Bush for the decision to let Afghan forces lead that chase.

But during the campaign, Republicans insinuated that terrorists would prefer to see Kerry in office, saying the Massachusetts senator would be too soft in the War on Terror.

Some political observers believe that many Americans voted for Bush not only because of his strong stance in the War on Terror but because they held tight to the adage of, "you don't change horses in midstream."

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, in responding to the FOX News report, said she does believe the bin Laden tape favored the president a little but would not say it outright tipped the election.

"It was a reminder he [bin Laden] still at large," she told FOX News. "I think what we could see in the polls a real lead for Kerry and that made a couple points difference … I think it had an effect."

aesop
11-19-2004, 01:27 PM
That just proves that he is an asshole. Duuuhhhhhhhh.

FORD
11-19-2004, 01:31 PM
It also proves what I said all along. That the tape was a BCE fake, and that the actor in it barely resembles Osama at all.

Nickdfresh
11-19-2004, 01:35 PM
I prefer Bush actually...heh heh heh heh....Why change incompetent horses in mid-stream....Muhuhawhawhawhawhawhaw!

Mezro
11-19-2004, 01:43 PM
I don't know if the tape was fake or not but I agree that it cost Kerry the election.

Mezro...yeah aesop, John Kerry is an asshole:rolleyes:...I'm sure your list of accomplishments would just eclipse his...:rolleyes:

Warham
11-19-2004, 04:39 PM
Kerry lost the election as soon as the primaries ended.

What a sore loser.

Sounds like all the rest of the libs when they lose. They can't blame their own inept campaigns for their demise, instead blaming anybody or anything else.

Jean Francois should go cry on Chiraq's shoulder.

ELVIS
11-19-2004, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by FORD
It also proves what I said all along. That the tape was a BCE fake, and that the actor in it barely resembles Osama at all.

You need glasses...

Switch84
11-19-2004, 04:50 PM
;) This crying brings to mind lyrics from The Jacksons' late 70s hit, "Blame It On The Boogie"!

Kerry lyrics:

Don't blame it on my dullness!
Don't blame it on my weak stand!
Don't blame it on my Lurch-ness!

Blame it on OSAMA!

ELVIS
11-19-2004, 05:00 PM
It's childish to think that potential Kerry voters suddenly cast a ballot for Bush, based on a stupid Bin Laden tape, fake or not...

:rolleyes:

Warham
11-19-2004, 05:03 PM
The dumbest thing that Kerry did was get Clinton stooges to run his campaign, like the imfamous Joe Lockhart! Kerry obviously can't read between the lines. If anybody sabotaged his campaign, it came from within. Hillary can't run in '08 if Kerry is sitting behind the big desk in '04.

Those Clintons! They really are far more clever than people give them credit for.

Warham
11-19-2004, 05:05 PM
Lockhart was also involved in that CBS memogate scandal, which helped Bush out even more.

bin Laden tape indeed.

Switch84
11-19-2004, 05:08 PM
Originally posted by Warham
The dumbest thing that Kerry did was get Clinton stooges to run his campaign, like the imfamous Joe Lockhart! Kerry obviously can't read between the lines. If anybody sabotaged his campaign, it came from within. Hillary can't run in '08 if Kerry is sitting behind the big desk in '04.

Those Clintons! They really are far more clever than people give them credit for.


:eek: Damn, Warham, that's an excellent point! Hilary's their 'Golden Child', not Kerry! He was sacrificed in the Almighty name of HILARY RODHAM CLINTON!!!!!

Mezro
11-19-2004, 05:23 PM
Originally posted by ELVIS
It's childish to think that potential Kerry voters suddenly cast a ballot for Bush, based on a stupid Bin Laden tape, fake or not...

:rolleyes:

Spooked cattle will often run in strange directions.

Mezro...I've got to stop quoting from Dan Blocker...

Warham
11-19-2004, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by Mezro
Spooked cattle will often run in strange directions.

Mezro...I've got to stop quoting from Dan Blocker...

If a person's vote can be easily swayed, so be it.

I was voting for Bush no matter what happened two weeks before the election.

I said before and I'll say it again: If you were undecided or on the fence at that point, you shouldn't have voted.

ELVIS
11-19-2004, 05:40 PM
People are not cattle...

Mezro
11-19-2004, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by Warham
I said before and I'll say it again: If you were undecided or on the fence at that point, you shouldn't have voted.

Agreed but plenty were on the fence. Fear can be a decisive motivator.

Mezro...I wonder how many voters decide while at the polls...eenie, meenie, minie, mo...red or blue...which way to go...

Warham
11-19-2004, 05:44 PM
I did say at one point before the election I thought that quite a few Democrats would say they were voting for Kerry, then go into the polls and pull the lever for Bush because they would feel safer with him behind the big desk. Looks like I may have been correct.

Mezro
11-19-2004, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by ELVIS
People are not cattle...

No they are not but many just follow along with what their peers, family or coworkers do/say.

Mezro...I should have said that some people act like cattle...

Warham
11-19-2004, 05:50 PM
The Kerry campaign made a huge blunder by believing that most 18-25 year olds would go out and vote in this election. It just doesn't happen. Most 18-25 year olds don't give a shit about politics. I would suspect most people don't really look into politics until their 30's. I didn't vote in '92 or '96, because I had no interest.My sister is 19 and she really didn't give a fig about voting this year. In my case, it wasn't until the whole Lewinsky thing happened that I became interested in what happened in the Oral Office. Now, I wouldn't think twice about voting.

Wayne L.
11-19-2004, 07:14 PM
John Kerry is spinning out of control the reason why he lost the election against President Bush when it was more than just the Osama Bin Laden tape since it was his political rhetoric during the campaign as well associating himself with liberal loony Michael Moore which doomed the Democratic Party from the start.

Seshmeister
11-19-2004, 07:52 PM
If Michael Moore is a liberal looney in your book you should see our socialists...:)

Big Train
11-19-2004, 07:58 PM
Can I officially say NOW there was NO October Suprise and certainly no November Suprise, at least to anyone with some sense.

Seshmeister
11-19-2004, 08:02 PM
Can I officially say that there is no all powerful international terrorist group called al Queda.

We could end up creating one though...

TLR
11-19-2004, 08:06 PM
whatever...