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Steve Savicki
11-19-2004, 03:20 PM
http://students.usm.maine.edu/jonathan.odonnell/village_bush%20smaller.jpg

Ally_Kat
11-19-2004, 03:23 PM
well, you're the one who sees a problem. Why not tell us what you are currently prevented to do.

FORD
11-19-2004, 03:29 PM
Vote for President and know that it was counted.

Big Train
11-19-2004, 04:11 PM
No really..in reality, exactlty WHAT can't you do?

monkeythe
11-19-2004, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by Big Train
No really..in reality, exactlty WHAT can't you do?

In New York you're not allowed to:
1 - Organize bike rallies without permits that are designed to tie up traffic.
2 - Have a tiger and alligator in your apartment
3 - Throw a frozen turkey out of your car and injure other motorists

Big Train
11-19-2004, 08:32 PM
The horror...

Diver Down NJ
11-20-2004, 12:07 AM
Well if a Bush cartoon isn't graphic evidence that this country is doomed, I don't know what is.

Seshmeister
11-20-2004, 12:21 AM
Originally posted by Ally_Kat
well, you're the one who sees a problem. Why not tell us what you are currently prevented to do.

http://208.39.216.125/uploads/ultimate_pathos.png

I can't play table tennis...

BrownSound1
11-20-2004, 02:28 AM
He ain't American either.

Seshmeister
11-20-2004, 05:53 AM
Yup so fuck him eh?

That's the kind of thinking that will have his little brother setting off a car bomb in Alabama in 20 years time.

ELVIS
11-20-2004, 05:58 AM
Not if this war is a success...

BigBadBrian
11-20-2004, 02:39 PM
Originally posted by Seshmeister
http://208.39.216.125/uploads/ultimate_pathos.png

I can't play table tennis...

He kinda looks like Santa Claus.

bueno bob
11-20-2004, 03:13 PM
Well, what liberties are left?

1. You can go look for work.
2. You can obtain work that doesn't count as slavery.
3. You can marry whomever you choose (mostly).
4. You can have as many kids as you like.
5. You can start a rock band any time you like.
6. You can worship any religion you choose.
7. You can buy necessary or unneccesary things at your leisure.
8. You can go on vacation whenever you feel like.
9. You can call in sick to work if you want.
10. You can drink anything you want.
11. You can smoke anything you want (if you're careful about it).
12. You can tell somebody to "fuck off".
13. You can look at anything you want on your PC (within reason).
14. You can download and burn CDs for free.
15. You can buy as much food as you deem necessary.
16. You can vote on any number of issues.
17. You can actively pursue a career in politics.
18. You can own a home, vehicle, and pets.
19. You have a right to a fair, expediant trial if you're accused.
20. You have the right to an attorney of law if you're accused.
21. You can leave America and renounce your citizenship at any time.
22. You can go to the library and find any book at all to read.
23. You can sell your possessions or your property at any given time.
24. You can apply for credit.
25. You can call a friend or a family member at any time.
26. You can choose to go out for the evening.
27. You can rent or buy porn of any sort at any time.
28. You can speak another language fluently.
29. You can bank at any institution you like.
30. You can cheer for any sports team you like.
31. You can go to any sort of concert at any time you feel like.
32. You can volunteer to help out the needy.
33. You can donate food, time, money or clothes to the needy.
34. You can donate blood.
35. You can opt to use public transportation.
36. You can protest anything you don't like in the streets.
37. You can take out an ad in your local newspaper.
38. You can choose to have cable television or not.
39. You can send someone a letter.
40. You can grow your hair as long as you like or shave it off.

Well, there's 40 of them to start with. You want me to continue?

Sarge's Little Helper
11-20-2004, 03:13 PM
Well, what liberties are left?

1. You can go look for work.
2. You can obtain work that doesn't count as slavery.
3. You can marry whomever you choose (mostly).
4. You can have as many kids as you like.
5. You can start a rock band any time you like.
6. You can worship any religion you choose.
7. You can buy necessary or unneccesary things at your leisure.
8. You can go on vacation whenever you feel like.
9. You can call in sick to work if you want.
10. You can drink anything you want.
11. You can smoke anything you want (if you're careful about it).
12. You can tell somebody to "fuck off".
13. You can look at anything you want on your PC (within reason).
14. You can download and burn CDs for free.
15. You can buy as much food as you deem necessary.
16. You can vote on any number of issues.
17. You can actively pursue a career in politics.
18. You can own a home, vehicle, and pets.
19. You have a right to a fair, expediant trial if you're accused.
20. You have the right to an attorney of law if you're accused.
21. You can leave America and renounce your citizenship at any time.
22. You can go to the library and find any book at all to read.
23. You can sell your possessions or your property at any given time.
24. You can apply for credit.
25. You can call a friend or a family member at any time.
26. You can choose to go out for the evening.
27. You can rent or buy porn of any sort at any time.
28. You can speak another language fluently.
29. You can bank at any institution you like.
30. You can cheer for any sports team you like.
31. You can go to any sort of concert at any time you feel like.
32. You can volunteer to help out the needy.
33. You can donate food, time, money or clothes to the needy.
34. You can donate blood.
35. You can opt to use public transportation.
36. You can protest anything you don't like in the streets.
37. You can take out an ad in your local newspaper.
38. You can choose to have cable television or not.
39. You can send someone a letter.
40. You can grow your hair as long as you like or shave it off.

Well, there's 40 of them to start with. You want me to continue?

Oops. I wasn't paying attention. Tell me again what is going on.

blueturk
11-20-2004, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by Sarge's Little Helper
Oops. I wasn't paying attention. Tell me again what is going on.


Originally posted by bueno bob
Well, what liberties are left?

1. You can go look for work.
2. You can obtain work that doesn't count as slavery.
3. You can marry whomever you choose (mostly).
4. You can have as many kids as you like.
5. You can start a rock band any time you like.
6. You can worship any religion you choose.
7. You can buy necessary or unneccesary things at your leisure.
8. You can go on vacation whenever you feel like.
9. You can call in sick to work if you want.
10. You can drink anything you want.
11. You can smoke anything you want (if you're careful about it).
12. You can tell somebody to "fuck off".
13. You can look at anything you want on your PC (within reason).
14. You can download and burn CDs for free.
15. You can buy as much food as you deem necessary.
16. You can vote on any number of issues.
17. You can actively pursue a career in politics.
18. You can own a home, vehicle, and pets.
19. You have a right to a fair, expediant trial if you're accused.
20. You have the right to an attorney of law if you're accused.
21. You can leave America and renounce your citizenship at any time.
22. You can go to the library and find any book at all to read.
23. You can sell your possessions or your property at any given time.
24. You can apply for credit.
25. You can call a friend or a family member at any time.
26. You can choose to go out for the evening.
27. You can rent or buy porn of any sort at any time.
28. You can speak another language fluently.
29. You can bank at any institution you like.
30. You can cheer for any sports team you like.
31. You can go to any sort of concert at any time you feel like.
32. You can volunteer to help out the needy.
33. You can donate food, time, money or clothes to the needy.
34. You can donate blood.
35. You can opt to use public transportation.
36. You can protest anything you don't like in the streets.
37. You can take out an ad in your local newspaper.
38. You can choose to have cable television or not.
39. You can send someone a letter.
40. You can grow your hair as long as you like or shave it off.

Well, there's 40 of them to start with. You want me to continue?

I don't know about # 36.You sure as hell better not be holding up an anti-Bush sign within a half mile of Dubya when he's in town,or your ass WILL get arrested! Oh yeah Ford,that happened in the SOUTH.

Big Train
11-20-2004, 05:11 PM
14. You can download and burn CDs for free.


When did THIS become a freedom...I call it a crime.

Nickdfresh
11-20-2004, 06:17 PM
Originally posted by Big Train
14. You can download and burn CDs for free.


When did THIS become a freedom...I call it a crime.

Read the Harvard Study on downloading which reaches several interesting conclusions on the effect of downloading! I'll try to find it and will eventually post it the "House of Music Forum." I don't feel like doing it now because it is too late on a Saturday, but we can go round and round on that one!

Lou
11-20-2004, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by Seshmeister
Yup so fuck him eh?

That's the kind of thinking that will have his little brother setting off a car bomb in Alabama in 20 years time.

No but fuck YOU. You don't live here. This is not your country. So stay the FUCK out of our politics. I don't talk about Scotland's politics.

I don't like you. You're a fuckin' wise-ass who has nothing, ever, good to say about this country but plenty to criticize about it. Go fuck yourself, asshole.

Viking
11-20-2004, 08:44 PM
The 48% of you that lost have the liberty to leave if you don't like what the other 51% of us stand for.

Bully. :killer:

Big Train
11-20-2004, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Read the Harvard Study on downloading which reaches several interesting conclusions on the effect of downloading! I'll try to find it and will eventually post it the "House of Music Forum." I don't feel like doing it now because it is too late on a Saturday, but we can go round and round on that one!

Yea, I always LOVE reading the trash the academics have to say about this. I especially love the "New paradigm" argument. Removing profit of the "old business model", by allowing massive theft of an unprecendented scale, in order to create new models is legal. Bullshit, it's cut and dried. Name me another industry where stealing the product has become accepted in order for a new technological process to flourish? You can't because it's never happened in the history of the world.

Yes, I realize that this belongs in the house of music. I'll see you there.

Perhaps we can disuss here why the politicians ignore the issue.

Nickdfresh
11-20-2004, 09:29 PM
Make sure you ban radio! The music is free and no one will buy it if they listen to the radio (the record industry circa 1950) I really trust the incompetent record insustry for all the facts, a group that can't even come to a concensus on replaceing 25 year old CD technology and a bunch of price gougers that constantly increase the mark up on CD's despite the fact that the cost per unit of production is a fraction of what it once was in 1983.

Oh! Let's talk about all the money these A&R douchebags pump into the Brittany Spears of the world, even though the little skanks albums hardly sell and she has had only two bonified hits.

Yeah! I have soooo much sympathy.

BigBadBrian
11-20-2004, 09:31 PM
Originally posted by Lou
No but fuck YOU. You don't live here. This is not your country. So stay the FUCK out of our politics. I don't talk about Scotland's politics.

I don't like you. You're a fuckin' wise-ass who has nothing, ever, good to say about this country but plenty to criticize about it. Go fuck yourself, asshole.

Sesh, I believe the ball is in your court. :gulp:

Flash Bastard
11-20-2004, 10:07 PM
Hi Steve.

I'll keep this post real simple so you can follow it.

Please kill yourself.

Thank you.

Flash Bastard
11-20-2004, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by Diver Down NJ
Well if a Bush cartoon isn't graphic evidence that this country is doomed, I don't know what is.

I ~LOVE~ your avatar. Classic!

5 stars!

bueno bob
11-20-2004, 10:44 PM
Originally posted by Big Train
14. You can download and burn CDs for free.


When did THIS become a freedom...I call it a crime.

That's my mistake. I added 'for free' in accidentally. I meant download and burn CDs, period. My bad, sorry.

Lou
11-20-2004, 11:11 PM
Originally posted by Flash Bastard
Hi Steve.

I'll keep this post real simple so you can follow it.

Please kill yourself.

Thank you.

LMMFAO!!!!

Lou
11-20-2004, 11:13 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
Sesh, I believe the ball is in your court. :gulp:

No I'm just tired of this fucker from across the Atlantic continually bashing America. I don't care Sesh that you've posted over and over or how big of a Roth fan you are. Since America does everything wrong you should rejoice that you don't live in such a horrible place.

Nickdfresh
11-20-2004, 11:36 PM
Originally posted by Lou
No I'm just tired of this fucker from across the Atlantic continually bashing America. I don't care Sesh that you've posted over and over or how big of a Roth fan you are. Since America does everything wrong you should rejoice that you don't live in such a horrible place.

I think he has the right to say his peace though...right? We are still about freedom of speech...I hope.:rolleyes:

Lou
11-20-2004, 11:49 PM
OK and you ENTIRELY missed my point.

Big Train
11-21-2004, 04:23 AM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Make sure you ban radio! The music is free and no one will buy it if they listen to the radio (the record industry circa 1950) I really trust the incompetent record insustry for all the facts, a group that can't even come to a concensus on replaceing 25 year old CD technology and a bunch of price gougers that constantly increase the mark up on CD's despite the fact that the cost per unit of production is a fraction of what it once was in 1983.

Oh! Let's talk about all the money these A&R douchebags pump into the Brittany Spears of the world, even though the little skanks albums hardly sell and she has had only two bonified hits.

Yeah! I have soooo much sympathy.

Oh God Nick....PLEASE let's find a place to argue about this....PLEASE. Being one of those "A&R Doucebags", I know a thing or two about the business and all the stuff you just listed up above (which I CANNOT wait to go point for point on) have nothing to do with why it's ok to steal the product. Try that argument at say the Home Depot ("Hey Man, Trees are free and you gouge the prices and put little guys out of business, so I'm taking this lumber...see how far out of the parking lot you get, THEN come back and argue this to me again).

Name the forum, start the thread. And no, I don't want or need your pity...I want to hear the bullshit.

Seshmeister
11-21-2004, 08:55 AM
Originally posted by Lou
OK and you ENTIRELY missed my point.

Lou we always miss your point because you post like a little kid.

Lou
11-21-2004, 09:06 AM
Well I suppose you really have nothing to say, to defend yourself, you anti-American bastard.

Seshmeister
11-21-2004, 09:09 AM
Bad PUNKtuation Lou.

I'm not gonna waste a Sunday afternoon arguing on the internet with a dumb kid who has nothing of interest to say.

Cheers!

:gulp:

Lou
11-21-2004, 09:15 AM
So I suppose intelligent posting would be to bash George Bush, Christianity and basically everything this country does.

Nickdfresh
11-21-2004, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by Big Train
Oh God Nick....PLEASE let's find a place to argue about this....PLEASE. Being one of those "A&R Doucebags", I know a thing or two about the business and all the stuff you just listed up above (which I CANNOT wait to go point for point on) have nothing to do with why it's ok to steal the product. Try that argument at say the Home Depot ("Hey Man, Trees are free and you gouge the prices and put little guys out of business, so I'm taking this lumber...see how far out of the parking lot you get, THEN come back and argue this to me again).

Name the forum, start the thread. And no, I don't want or need your pity...I want to hear the bullshit.

First of all you brought it up.

And Done! An article about the report is now in the House of Music.

Steve Savicki
11-21-2004, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by Big Train
14. You can download and burn CDs for free.


When did THIS become a freedom...I call it a crime.
Crime is freedom to some. :(
I think those record companies make enough money already.
Isn't it the singer who gets screwed? Or is it the songwriters?

Big Train
11-22-2004, 12:48 AM
Steve,

The singer MAY get screwed. The deck is sorta stacked against them yes, it's more like a glorified loan (i'll discuss in music). However, if they cover costs, they get paid. You stealing it removes and and ALL possibility of them ever getting paid. So you screw everyone in the chain.

Switch84
11-22-2004, 01:04 AM
;) :p Lou, Sesh, GET A ROOM!!!!!!

Lou
11-22-2004, 10:46 AM
No thanks. He's a fuckin' pseudo-intellectual, armchair criticizing, smug little asshole.

Here's my take:

If you're not from the US, and you just want to bash everything the US does, FUCK YOU. At least the people from the US who bitch have an interest in this country whereas these assholes like Seshmeister do it for sport. I'm tired of this bullshit and I'm tired that since he's a known figure on these boards, and that he pays for DDLR.com, no one would dare to contest him.

Seshmeister
11-22-2004, 11:13 AM
Lou I get contested every fucking day you twat.

Grow up.

You take these boards and yourself far too fucking seriously.

Cheers!

:gulp:

Switch84
11-22-2004, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by Seshmeister
Lou I get contested every fucking day you twat.

:gulp:


;) :p :D Yeah! BY ME!!!

Who loves ya, Sesh Baby?

Lou, your ferver is admirable! Have you ever served in the US Armed Forces? We'd love to have your dedication to country. :D




You two should hang out here (USA) or Scotland and knock a couple back.

John Ashcroft
11-22-2004, 12:16 PM
You could even trade skirts... ;) :D

Seshmeister
11-22-2004, 12:31 PM
No way!

Mine cost a fortune.

Switch84
11-22-2004, 12:50 PM
Originally posted by Seshmeister
No way!

Mine cost a fortune.


;) Really? So, THAT'S the reason you fellas go 'commando' while wearing a kilt. You can't afford the drawers!

ROFLMMFAOBT

McCarrens
11-22-2004, 04:03 PM
Originally posted by Lou
So I suppose intelligent posting would be to bash George Bush, Christianity and basically everything this country does.

True, and that's the exact kind of thinking that got the liberal bitches WHUPPED a few weeks ago!

God Bless America and its party of choice: the Republicans.