So half the BCE cabinet has now resigned

[FORD]

What do you suppose it is that Asscrotch, Powell, Ridge, Thompson, and the others know about the upcoming PNAC plans that even their seared consciences would not allow them to be a party to?

And if they can see the truth and want out, what does that say about you Busheep who remain in denial as the nation sinks further into darkness from which it may never return :(

[JoeyT.]

still no mention about the record 3 million votes ford. You should really do some reading on the subject before you start posting this nonsense. Get a clue and or an education, faggot.

[Ally_Kat]

Didn't Clinton have cabinet members jumping ship?

It doesn't surprise me in either case. It's not an easy job, and after four years, they might not want to continue it for four more.

[fanofdave]

hey JoeyT, are you the same fucking ignorant
jackass gay porn head fluffer Joe ThunderLESS?

how are you and your demented multiple fucked up
personalities doing today? did you take your meds?

[TLR]

Spin, spin, spin. AnyTHING can be spun at anyTIME to fit anyONE'S agenda. Geez, this gets old...

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by JoeyT.
still no mention about the record 3 million votes ford. You should really do some reading on the subject before you start posting this nonsense. Get a clue and or an education, faggot.
Get serious, JoeyT.

Kerry and the democratic party also set a record Presidential vote beating the old record held by Reagan. You leave that out.

Get serious.

Gore beat GW by over 2 million votes in 2000.

What's your fakking point, numbnuts?

There's going to be war all around the northern hemisphere of the globe, including war in the United States.

Kerry said on the phone to GW, "The country's too divided." Exact words. No extra words, no wasted words. Keyword: TOO

This country's not just divided, it's "TOO" divided.

TOO much.

And it's on the brink of civil disruption on a scale that can and will only be called war.

Get ready now for these are your last peaceful, free days in America to prepare.

What they have planned in PNAC, and similar plans with globalists in the U.S. democratic party, and globlists in the world's governments, the UN, they are telling you, and it's not going to be just another day at the office anymore.

It's over.

War and sparity are your future.


P

[Big Train]

Example: Perhaps Ford, in your infinite BCE knowledge would consider this:

Their BCE objectives have been accomplished? Their back door (allegedly) deals are in place and everyone is happy?

[JoeyT.]

Are you fucking kidding me. The divide among the partys came because kerry's campaine was based solely on bashing Bush and Cheney. They had no principals or personality of their own to go on so they used these tactics and it backfired big time. They even got 89% of the african vote and still lost in record fashion. George W. Bush is a uniter not a divider. The better man one and good thing because I was moving to Canada had he not won. And kerry absolutely blew it when it came down to picking a running mate. edward looked like the school kid going up against the principal in the debates.

[FORD]

Well, I see only BT has attempted to answer the question. Though I don't agree with his analysis. While some of the BCE'ers are still connected with pharmaceutical corporations and are likely to make a buck or two from Junior's manadatory Stalin-like mental health screenings, I don't believe financial gain is the primary motivation in the defections here.

Take Don Evans for example.... he's been a BCE lifer. Something has to be seriously wrong for him to turn his back on them after decades of loyalty. Could it be the way they badly fucked up Iraq? Perhaps. If it were just Evans.

I'm guessing that since it's pretty much his entire domestic team that's quitting, it means they know something about the BCE's plans for this country, and they want no part of it.

[Big Train]

A January suprise? Tick, tock, tick, tock.....c,mon man. I always attempt to further your dialogue, but the painful lack of ANY facts at all bore me after a while.

[FORD]

Originally posted by Big Train
A January suprise? Tick, tock, tick, tock.....c,mon man. I always attempt to further your dialogue, but the painful lack of ANY facts at all bore me after a while.

It's not a fact that half of Junior's cabinet has quit? actually 8 of 15 which is more than half. That's far more than the average of a 2nd term pResident.

[Big Train]

That is face, but your BCE theory is complete speculation, as is any number of things you attribute to this administration. Trying to tie that into the small amount of facts (i.e. changes in second administration) is what gets old.

Still waiting to be sold on the BCE for starters..

[FORD]

OK, look at it like this:

Obvious potential of fraud aside, Junior supposedly has a victory of 2%, which he claims as a glorious "mandate" and "political capital that I darn well am gonna spend".

You would think a team of BCE loyalists and conservatives would rally around Junior after making such claims.

Instead, they can't wait to leave. All except the PNAC neocons. Clearly there is a pattern here, and the sanest, most logical answer is that the PNAC'ers are planning things that the last of Poppy's old guard simply cannot stomach.

And that should be something even Busheep think very seriously about :(

[ODShowtime]

They were probably all sick of being ignored. Haven't we heard reports of the White House now being dominated by gw&close friends and anyone who has a dissenting voice being silenced?

I just can't see ol' gw sitting down and digesting the input of his trusty advisors, weighing the facts before making an informed decision.

[Big Train]

I don't understand the leap you make Ford that they are leaving because something "unprecendented" is being planned. That would require proof, at least circumstancial to be remotely of interest.

They probably are sick of the round clock thankless job they have to perform, with half the country calling them assholes all the time for trying to serve them. I don't know if I could do that weighing against family and other concerns.

[Seshmeister]

I think Ashcroft didn't like the whole 'democracy' thing whereby every so often someone in the press would have the audacity to ask him to explain himself.

I guess the rest are gonna do what senior politicians do here.

Go get half a dozen non executive directorships with big corporations in return for having access to the government, and watch the millions come in for 1 day a weeks work.

Cheers!

:gulp:

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by Seshmeister
I guess the rest are gonna do what senior politicians do here.

Go get half a dozen non executive directorships with big corporations in return for having access to the government, and watch the millions come in for 1 day a weeks work.

you're probably right shesh

[diamondD]

This again? It's common political knowledge that if a president is re-elected (which he was ;) ), the cabinet always offers to resign and it's up to the president to accept the resignation or ask them to stay. It's acceptable because most people spend most of their time fulfilling their positions and burn out after 4 years.

Move along conspiracy theorists, there's nothing tangible here. :rolleyes:

[FORD]

Originally posted by diamondD
This again? It's common political knowledge that if a president is re-elected (which he was ;) ), the cabinet always offers to resign and it's up to the president to accept the resignation or ask them to stay. It's acceptable because most people spend most of their time fulfilling their positions and burn out after 4 years.

Move along conspiracy theorists, there's nothing tangible here. :rolleyes:

Can you remember another instance where over half a cabinet - and pretty much all the domestic side at that - resigned immediately after an election?

It's typical that there might be one or two in any administration. This goes far beyond that. And again, the most conspicuous sign of trouble is the fact that not a single PNAC'er has been among the resignations.

[Big Train]

How is it a sign of trouble that people you associate with a document that has nothing to do with what you say it does, resign from their positions for whatever personal reasons?

There is no factual basis to believe anything you are alluding to, which means we are just blowing air up skirts here. Which is a serious waste of time.

[diamondD]

FORD apparantly has lots of time to waste.

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by JoeyT.
Are you fucking kidding me. The divide among the partys came because kerry's campaine was based solely on bashing Bush and Cheney. .

Speaking of getting an education Joey Thunder.....

the plural of party is PARTIES

and the correct spelling of the word is CAMPAIGN

Considering you claim to have spoken live at the Republican National Convention this year, as well as being interviewed on PBS, one would think you'd know these words.



fucking dumbass

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Speaking of getting an education Joey Thunder.....

the plural of party is PARTIES

and the correct spelling of the word is CAMPAIGN

Considering you claim to have spoken live at the Republican National Convention this year, as well as being interviewed on PBS, one would think you'd know these words.



fucking dumbass :D

[Seshmeister]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Considering you claim to have spoken live at the Republican National Convention this year, as well as being interviewed on PBS, one would think you'd know these words.


Not neccesarily...:)

http://www.man-go.nl/bush%20dumb.JPG

[BigBadBrian]

Good one, Sesh. :D