Canadian unit awarded the U.S. Presidential Unit Citation

[WACF]

Must of been one hell of a fight....to bad Canadians will never hear about it.

http://www.herald.ns.ca/stories/2004/12/08/fCanada119.raw.html

Canadian unit wins heroism citation

By The Canadian Press

OTTAWA - Canada's special operations military unit, Joint Task Force 2, has been awarded the U.S. Presidential Unit Citation for heroism in battle.

It's just the second Canadian military unit to receive the honour.

U.S. President George W. Bush made the presentation in California to the American commander of the multinational force in Afghanistan of which JTF-2 was a part from October 2001 to April 2002.

The citation, first awarded after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbour on Dec. 7, 1941, is given to units of the United States and allied nations "for extraordinary heroism in actions against an armed enemy."

"The unit must display such gallantry, determination and esprit de corps in accomplishing its mission under extremely difficult and hazardous conditions as to set it apart and above other units participating in the same campaign."

The only other Canadian unit to receive the citation is the 2nd Battalion, Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry, for actions at the 1951 Battle of Kapyong during the Korean War.

Military officials refused to release details of JTF-2's exploits in Afghanistan.

While their operations went largely unnoticed by their countrymen, their U.S. counterparts took journalists into combat operations for days on end.

Officials say that's because the U.S. special forces number in the tens of thousands, while Canada's contingent is believed to be fewer than 1,000, and members could be targeted by terrorists.

In the fall 2001 budget, the federal government announced a five-year, $118.5-million special forces expansion project.

[WACF]

https://www.perscom.army.mil/tagd/tioh/Awards/PRESIDENTIAL%20UNIT%20CITATION%201.html

PRESIDENTIAL UNIT CITATION (ARMY)


1. Description: The Presidential Unit Citation emblem worn to represent award of the Presidential Unit Citation is 1 7/16 inches wide and 9/16 inch in height. The emblem consists of a 1/16 inch wide Gold frame with laurel leaves which encloses an Ultramarine Blue 67118 ribbon.

2. Criteria: The Presidential Unit Citation is awarded to units of the Armed Forces of the United States and co-belligerent nations for extraordinary heroism in action against an armed enemy occurring on or after 7 December 1941. The unit must display such gallantry, determination, and esprit de corps in accomplishing its mission under extremely difficult and hazardous conditions as to set it apart and above other units participating in the same campaign. The degree of heroism required is the same as that which would warrant award of a Distinguished Service Cross to an individual. Extended periods of combat duty or participation in a large number of operational missions, either ground or air is not sufficient. This award will normally be earned by units that have participated in single or successive actions covering relatively brief time spans. It is not reasonable to presume that entire units can sustain Distinguished Service Cross performance for extended time periods except under the most unusual circumstances. Only on rare occasions will a unit larger than battalion qualify for award of this decoration.

3. Components: The components of the Presidential Unit Citation are the emblem awarded to members of the unit and the streamer for display on the unit flag/guidon.

a. Presidential Unit Citation emblem: MIL-D-3943/32 (frame) and MIL-R-11589/54 (ribbon). NSN 8455-00-257-3875.

b. Streamer: MIL-S-14650/5. Manual requisition in accordance with Chapter 9, Army Regulation (AR) 840-10.

4. Background: a. The Distinguished Unit Citation was established as a result of Executive Order No. 9075, dated 26 February 1942. The Executive Order directed the Secretary of War to issue citations in the name of the President of the United States to Army units for outstanding performance of duty after 7 December 1941. The design submitted by the Office of the Quartermaster General was approved by the G1 on 30 May 1942.

b. The Distinguished Unit Citation was redesignated the Presidential Unit Citation (Army) per DF, DCSPER, date 3 November 1966.

c. The emblem is worn by all members of a cited organization and is considered an individual decoration for persons in connection with the cited acts and may be worn whether or not they continue as members of the organization. Other personnel may wear this decoration while serving with an organization to indicate the unit has been awarded the Presidential Unit Citation.

d. Order of precedence and wear policy for unit awards is contained in Army Regulation (AR) 670-1. Policy for awards, approving authority, and supply of the unit award emblem is contained in AR 600-8-22. The policy for display of unit awards on guidons and flags and supply of streamers is contained in AR 840-10.

[Seshmeister]

You need to be brave just to fight along side the US forces at all given their constant 'friendly fire'.

[Angel]

Originally posted by Seshmeister
You need to be brave just to fight along side the US forces at all given their constant 'friendly fire'.

BUWAHAHAHA!! :D

[Big Train]

Credit where credit is due...no complaints here, no cheap shots.

You won't hear about it though, just like in Canada you will never hear a good thing about a Republican any conservative for that matter. We are all "evil" doncha know..

[Angel]

Actually, they say good things about Democrats all the time - Conservative by Canuck standards.

You have heard good things about republicans up here, just not any of the Bush regime. ;)

Reagan was loved by our former PM, Brian Mulroney.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Seshmeister
You need to be brave just to fight along side the US forces at all given their constant 'friendly fire'.

Maybe you will find this a bit humourous as well, Sesh. :gulp:

You be sure to laugh it up too, Angel...you CUNT! ;)



UK soldiers killed by 'friendly fire'

BBC Wednesday, 26 March, 2003, 04:02 GMT


Challenger II tanks have also seen action in Kosovo and Bosnia
A 'friendly fire' incident has claimed the lives of two UK soldiers during fierce fighting outside the southern Iraqi city of Basra.
The pair, serving with the Queen's Royal Lancers, were killed when their Challenger II tank came under fire early on Tuesday morning. Two others were seriously injured.

The BBC's Nick Witchell, at coalition military headquartes in Qatar, said their vehicle was hit by a shell from another British tank that either missed its intended target or rebounded off it.

The regiment's battle honours include Blenheim, Waterloo, Ypres, Monte Cassino and more recently the Gulf in 1991.



Click here to find out about the Queen's Royal Lancers
The two men were named by the Ministry of Defence as Corporal Stephen John Allbutt, 35, from Stoke-on-Trent, and Trooper David Jeffrey Clarke, 19, from Littleworth, Stafford.

Although the tanks are fitted with identification systems, Witchell said for the moment a technology failure was not being blamed and the deaths were being viewed as "one of the realities of war".

The families of those killed and injured have been informed.

Officer 'distraught'

Lieutenant Colonel Michael Riddell-Webster, commander of the Black Watch battle group, said the "friendly fire" deaths were a tragedy.

He said the commander of the Challenger tank troop involved was "clearly distraught".

"The rules of engagement, even in war, are very strict. We have trained hard to avoid this kind of thing," he said.

"It is never done on purpose. No-one is blaming the tank crew."

He said that "in the darkness and confusion, a mistake was made".



http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39007000/jpg/_39007907_roberts_pa_203.jpg Sergeant Steven Roberts


He added: "It's war and sadly sometimes such tragedies cannot be avoided."

The incident happened while the tank unit was engaging pockets of Iraqi soldiers and militia near a bridge over the Qanat Shatt Al Basrah canal running along the western edge of the city.

A UK military spokesman said it was during a period of multiple engagements with Iraqi forces on the outskirts of Basra.

For several days now UK forces have been fighting an estimated 1,000 Iraqi troops in the city, including members of Saddam's Fedayeen, the Iraqi leader's most loyal soldiers.

Tuesday's fighting saw the bombardment of Iraqi mortar positions inside Basra in an effort to support what the British military says is a violent civilian uprising - denied by Baghdad - against Saddam Hussein's regime.

The two British 'friendly fire' deaths came in combat earlier in the day.

The turret of their Challenger is reported to have been blown off in the attack, which happened in pitch darkness.

An investigation has been launched.

The deaths follow an incident on Sunday when a British pilot and navigator were shot down in their RAF Tornado jet by an American patriot missile battery.

Combat deaths

Two British soldiers have been killed during combat in the conflict so far.

On Monday a soldier from the 1st Battalion Black Watch was killed at al-Zubayr.

The first British combat victim was Sergeant Steve Roberts, from Bradford, who was believed to have been shot during rioting, also at al-Zubayr, on Sunday night.

The 33-year-old died from his injuries on Monday morning.

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by WACF
https://www.perscom.army.mil/tagd/tioh/Awards/PRESIDENTIAL%20UNIT%20CITATION%201.html

PRESIDENTIAL UNIT CITATION (ARMY)


1. Description: The Presidential Unit Citation emblem worn to represent award of the Presidential Unit Citation is 1 7/16 inches wide and 9/16 inch in height. The emblem consists of a 1/16 inch wide Gold frame with laurel leaves which encloses an Ultramarine Blue 67118 ribbon.

2. Criteria: The Presidential Unit Citation is awarded to units of the Armed Forces of the United States and co-belligerent nations for extraordinary heroism in action against an armed enemy occurring on or after 7 December 1941. The unit must display such gallantry, determination, and esprit de corps in accomplishing its mission under extremely difficult and hazardous conditions as to set it apart and above other units participating in the same campaign. The degree of heroism required is the same as that which would warrant award of a Distinguished Service Cross to an individual. Extended periods of combat duty or participation in a large number of operational missions, either ground or air is not sufficient. This award will normally be earned by units that have participated in single or successive actions covering relatively brief time spans. It is not reasonable to presume that entire units can sustain Distinguished Service Cross performance for extended time periods except under the most unusual circumstances. Only on rare occasions will a unit larger than battalion qualify for award of this decoration.

3. Components: The components of the Presidential Unit Citation are the emblem awarded to members of the unit and the streamer for display on the unit flag/guidon.

a. Presidential Unit Citation emblem: MIL-D-3943/32 (frame) and MIL-R-11589/54 (ribbon). NSN 8455-00-257-3875.

b. Streamer: MIL-S-14650/5. Manual requisition in accordance with Chapter 9, Army Regulation (AR) 840-10.

4. Background: a. The Distinguished Unit Citation was established as a result of Executive Order No. 9075, dated 26 February 1942. The Executive Order directed the Secretary of War to issue citations in the name of the President of the United States to Army units for outstanding performance of duty after 7 December 1941. The design submitted by the Office of the Quartermaster General was approved by the G1 on 30 May 1942.

b. The Distinguished Unit Citation was redesignated the Presidential Unit Citation (Army) per DF, DCSPER, date 3 November 1966.

c. The emblem is worn by all members of a cited organization and is considered an individual decoration for persons in connection with the cited acts and may be worn whether or not they continue as members of the organization. Other personnel may wear this decoration while serving with an organization to indicate the unit has been awarded the Presidential Unit Citation.

d. Order of precedence and wear policy for unit awards is contained in Army Regulation (AR) 670-1. Policy for awards, approving authority, and supply of the unit award emblem is contained in AR 600-8-22. The policy for display of unit awards on guidons and flags and supply of streamers is contained in AR 840-10.
My decease father received this for his 1st Marine duty on Peleliu with Chesty Puller's unit in WW II. It is second to the Medal of Honor of which Capt. Pope of the unit received, as he and his company were singled out for the worst fighting. It was the same fighing for everybody. It was face to face combat.

Pray for peace fools.


P

[ELVIS]

Fools ??

[Angel]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
[SIZE=6]You be sure to laugh it up too, Angel...you CUNT! ;)
UK soldiers killed by 'friendly fire'

You really believe that I would laugh at anyone's death? Give me more credit than that!

I see I have another promotion, is that Major, Colonel or General CUNT? ;)

[Nickdfresh]

Some of us do notice:

Arm patch of the joint US-Canadian 1st Special Service Force (The Devil's Brigade) during WWII.

[BITEYOASS]

Now will this award make up for all the hockey teams we took away from you guys? LOL :D I'm kidding, you can all the teams south of D.C. that aren't located in the rocky mountains for all I care!

[BITEYOASS]

correction: have all the teams

[Nickdfresh]

Some of us Americans are upset about that also.

http://www.fansedge.com/Images/product/34-19/34-19961-m.jpg

[BITEYOASS]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Some of us Americans are upset about that also.

http://www.fansedge.com/Images/product/34-19/34-19961-m.jpg

Wha? About there being hockey teams in cities too warm to even have Ice in the winter? I think that's fucked up myself! Why the hell doesn't Portland, Seattle or Milwaukee have a hockey team by now?

[Nickdfresh]

I though you were talking about the strike, sorry! I read your posts closer. I actually heard hockey is doing well for the most part in those places.

[Angel]

Originally posted by BITEYOASS
Now will this award make up for all the hockey teams we took away from you guys? LOL :D I'm kidding, you can all the teams south of D.C. that aren't located in the rocky mountains for all I care!

Actually, I don't give a fuck about the NHL anyway. It's gotten too big. I miss the days when only the elite could make the NHL.

If you think we're without hockey up here, you are WAY wrong. Hockey will always be a part of Canada, NHL or no.

[WACF]

The WHL is back in the spotlight again....

[Nickdfresh]

From Janes Defense Weekley:

Canadian budget shortfall may cause "structural disarmament"
Canada is on the road to "structural disarmament" said Colonel (ret'd) Brian MacDonald, a Toronto-based military analyst. Over the next 15 years, most of Canada's major military weapons systems and platforms will come to the end of their operational lives and there is insufficient money in the budget to replace them.

[Jane's International Defence Review - first posted to
- 11 November 2004]

[FORD]

Does it seem like Junior's trying hard to kiss some Hoser ass lately or what?

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
From Janes Defense Weekley:

Canadian budget shortfall may cause "structural disarmament"
Canada is on the road to "structural disarmament" said Colonel (ret'd) Brian MacDonald, a Toronto-based military analyst. Over the next 15 years, most of Canada's major military weapons systems and platforms will come to the end of their operational lives and there is insufficient money in the budget to replace them.

[Jane's International Defence Review - first posted to
[/url] - 11 November 2004]

I guess this pretty much falls in line with this [URL=http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1963]thread. (http://idr.janes.com) (Canada's Military is Bankrupt) :gulp:

[Angel]

Bunch of BS. Our military is NOT bankrupt, but yes we need to pour more money there way. Something I hope we'll be seeing before long.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Angel
Bunch of BS. Our military is NOT bankrupt, but yes we need to pour more money there way. Something I hope we'll be seeing before long.

Doubt it. :gulp:

[WACF]

The promises were made and already pushed back.

The money to recruit another full 4 battalions is not yet in place...when you consider the time it will take to find your men/women and train them it will be a couple years.

They still have not even stated whether they will re-activate some reserve units to active or just add a Battalion to each regular infantry Regiment.

They know they need to send cash...they just can not seem to be quick about it. I think the Libs know that repairing(starting to) the military is important to the next election...our military has not had this much support from the Canadian people since the 50's I am sure!

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by FORD
Does it seem like Junior's trying hard to kiss some Hoser ass lately or what?

Uh yeah. Big time.