this tsunami thing is getting nasty

[ashstralia]

here (http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/Thousands-dead-across-Asia-in-tsunami/2004/12/27/1103996491098.html)

[Ally_Kat]

I know! The earthquake was a 9.0 and moved the island 100 feet to a south! :eek:

I'm actually surprised no one else mentioned it before. I was waiting to see how long before someone said something.

[Seshmeister]

Was there any effect in Australia?

[ashstralia]

i'm betting there'll be
some big waves on the
north west coast of western
aus, the surfers will love it.

there was a big quake a
week or so ago south west of
new zealand, but luckily
no tsunami.

i waited too ally, to see if
anyone would post.
didn't wanna spoil ya b'day.
how was it?
hope you had some fun!

the media are reporting
up to 25,000 dead today.
very very nasty.

[Mezro]

Originally posted by Seshmeister
Was there any effect in Australia?

Yes, they are no longer upside down:)

Mezro...a few *drop bears have been reported missing...

*thanks to Panamark for explaining the amazing drop bear phenomenon

[Seshmeister]

Originally posted by ashstralia
i'm betting there'll be
some big waves on the
north west coast of western
aus, the surfers will love it.

there was a big quake a
week or so ago south west of
new zealand, but luckily
no tsunami.

i waited too ally, to see if
anyone would post.
didn't wanna spoil ya b'day.
how was it?
hope you had some fun!

the media are reporting
up to 25,000 dead today.
very very nasty.

Ahh...

My pal flew from Thailand where he's been for the last couple of months to Western Australia just last week.

Lucky.

Cheers!

:gulp:

[ashstralia]

sorry sesh,
i didn't quote ya.
but yes, last week would
have been a good time
to leave thailand or sri lanka.

heard on the news this
morning that in indonesia
thousands
of homeless are sleeping
in the streets with thousands
of now bloated corpses.

contaminated water,
flies setting in,
tropical heat,
sounds like a stephen king
story.

not pretty.

[rustoffa]

Just brutal.

Saw some footage earlier....

Alot of tourist's children that have no idea where there parents are...toddlers that survived and obviously can't communicate, etc.

Truly horrifying.

[Viking]

They said that sumbitch actually affected the rotation of the Earth. Any more questions as to why the squaw and I are gonna buy a couple of acres in the mountains when we build?

[FORD]

Originally posted by Viking
They said that sumbitch actually affected the rotation of the Earth. Any more questions as to why the squaw and I are gonna buy a couple of acres in the mountains when we build?

As long as the mountains aren't live or dormant volcanos (like most of them around here are) A good 9.0 quake just might be enough to set them off if the fault line is in the right place.

[Seshmeister]

Apparently some islands have moved 100 feet.

My nearest bar is 20 minutes away so here's hoping it'll be a shorter walk tomorrow...:)

[nosuchluck]

several islands are under water...

[Carmine]

I just heard on the radio.....65,000 deaths.

[nosuchluck]

give it time...there are so many unaccounted casualties...it'll reach 100,000 easily.

[Carmine]

Originally posted by nosuchluck
give it time...there are so many unaccounted casualties...it'll reach 100,000 easily.

...or more. Friggin sad.

[BITEYOASS]

Anyone hear anything about Diego Garcia? there is a naval base for the maritime prepositioning ships on that island and I've heard jack shit about it. Even thought it is right next to india.

[Seshmeister]

I'm sure it's fine otherwise it would be all over the news.

I just listened to a 10 minute report on NBC about someone that was at the WTC and within 2000 miles of this disaster and surviived while they spent 5 minutes on the 30 000 dead children.

Even now the US media is very inward looking and since not that many Americans go to this area on vacation in a few days it will probably stop being reported.

[Panamark]

Im just watching news now, over 70,000 now.

Sesh, it wasnt far from us, hitting Indonesia.
But thankgod the only effects we seemed to have
got was same strangely cold days right in the middle
of summer..

There are thousands of Aussies on holiday
in those areas...

[nosuchluck]

the Andaman and Nicobar islands consist of 38 islands.
communication with 18 of these islands has failed...

[BlimpyCHIMP™]

Originally posted by nosuchluck
give it time...there are so many unaccounted casualties...it'll reach 100,000 easily.

DOUBLE THAT WITH ALL THE COMING SOON DYSENTERI

TAHTS ALLAHS PEOPLE FOR YOU THOUGH AND ITS ABOUT TIME THEY GOT WHAT THEY DESERVED THOSE STUPED MONGOLOID BARBARIANS

GOD LEFT JEST ENOUGH ALIVE TO BE INFECTED THANK YOU GOD THERE REALLY IS A GOD

[WACF]

Some horrible pictures are on the net.

Terrible...

[BlimpyCHIMP™]

YOU CALL THOSE TERRIBLE

WHATS TERRIBLE IS THE AWFUL LOSS OF PROTEIN TO THE ECOSYSTEM THEY CAUSE BY NOT GRINDING UP THE DEAD LIKE HAMBURGER AND FEEDING THEM TO COWS, FISH, AND PENGUINS FOR FOOD BEFORE THEY BECOME DISEASED REDDIN

BC!!
THROW ME IN THE CHIPPER WHEN IM DOEN WITH THIS BODY TOO CUZ I DONT GIVE A FUCK IF IM DONE W IT

[Mike-adeth]

That shit is fucked up. I read in the paper this morning that over 55 000 are dead and they're expecting it to double.

[Northern Girl]

Kind of puts my little problems in perspective.

[ashstralia]

just heard, thousands
of aussies and europeans
missing.

survivors in sumatra are
picking up rice grains
to eat.

beggars belief.

[nosuchluck]

the death toll is at about 114,000 now.

[BITEYOASS]

Originally posted by Mike-adeth
That shit is fucked up. I read in the paper this morning that over 55 000 are dead and they're expecting it to double.

If you think that's fucked up, the US Government is only putting in 35 million in relief effort. That's about the equivalent of 5 hours spent on this Iraq war.

[DavidLeeNatra]

we played a benefit last night and made about 3.000 € from tix and donations...and I donated the money I normally spend on fireworks for new years eve today, too...this is horrible...a friend of mine was at the pukhet beach a few weeks ago...

[ashstralia]

Originally posted by DavidLeeNatra
we played a benefit last night and made about 3.000 € from tix and donations...and I donated the money I normally spend on fireworks for new years eve today, too...this is horrible...a friend of mine was at the pukhet beach a few weeks ago...

good work dln....

[rustoffa]

Check out some of these images and flip the fuck out....

Unbelievable.

http://www.digitalglobe.com/tsunami_gallery.html

[DavidLeeNatra]

Originally posted by ashstralia
good work dln....

this was just spontanious...we donated the money we got for the night together with the promoter and made a collection in the audience after the show...

now we are planning a "big"-thing here in berlin with a local promoter who can bring some people and money together...I guess every cent is helpful...

[Nickdfresh]

You may donate to the cause of tsunami relief, from the comfort of your home, online to a reputable charity (i.e. The Red Cross or USAid) by using the Apple homepage and breaking out your credit card!:

APPLE HOME PAGE (http://www.apple.com/)


Thank you for your support!
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Happy Christmas (War Is Over)
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And so this is Christmas and what have you done
Another year over; a new one just begun
And so this is Christmas, I hope you have fun
The near and the dear one, the old and the young
A Merry Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
Let's hope it's a good one without any fear

So this is Christmas, for weak and for strong
The rich and the poor one, the road is so long
So Happy Christmas for black and for white
The yellow and red one, and stop all the fight
A Merry Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
Let's hope it's a good one without any fear

So this is Christmas and what have we done
Another year over, a new one just begun
So Happy Christmas, I hope you have fun
The near and the dear one, the old and the young
A Merry Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
Let's hope it's a good one without any fear

[Intstrumental]

So this is Christmas and what have you done
Another year over; a new one just begun
And so Happy Christmas; we hope you have fun
The near and the dear one, the old and the young
A Merry Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
Let's hope it's a good one without any fear


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[DavidLeeNatra]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
You may donate to the cause of tsunami relief, from the comfort of your home, online to a reputable charity (i.e. The Red Cross or USAid) by using the Apple homepage and breaking out your credit card!:


the red cross sux in donation things...too much money gets lost on its way...terre des hommes is much better...

[Nickdfresh]

There is a choice of NINE different charities on the site.

The following organizations are linked to Apple's homepage:


American Red Cross International Response Fund

AmeriCares South Asia Earthquake Relief Fund

Direct Relief International International Assistance Fund

Médecins Sans Frontières International Tsunami Emergency Appeal

Oxfam Asian Earthquake & Tsunami Fund Highly Rated!

Sarvodaya Relief Fund for Tsunami Tragedy

Save the Children Asia Earthquake/Tsunami Relief Fund

UNICEF South Asia Tsunami Relief Efforts

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by DavidLeeNatra
the red cross sux in donation things...too much money gets lost on its way...terre des hommes is much better...

I found their site and it has nothing on the tsunami and I can't find a donation link. I recommend The Am. Red Cross, Amerihelps, and the AmericanJewish World Service. They claim a 90% delivery of funding to relief efforts. They also appear to check out. The Red Cross is just so big, they do already have tons of money.

Guidestar is an American organization that evaluates Non-Profit Organizations. Charity Navagator is also a trusted source. The following link will take you to their list of charities they deem the most legit!

Guidestar List of Charities (http://www.guidestar.org/controller/search.gs?action_searchFin=1&keywords=disaster+relief&subCategoryCriteria=%3a32)

Charity Navigator (http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm/bay/content.view/catid/38/cpid/227.htm)

[Nickdfresh]

Ooops--I meant AmeriCares. Action Against Hunger-USA also appears to be an efficient charity.

[Nickdfresh]

Did animals' 'sixth sense' save them from tsunami?
Thursday, December 30, 2004 Posted: 4:49 PM EST (2149 GMT)

CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/science/12/30/quake.animals.reut/index.html)
Wild life officials found no evidence of large-scale animal deaths from the massive tsunami at Yala Safari Game Lodge close to Yala Reserve Wildlife Park, southeast of Colombo, Sri Lanka.


JOHANNESBURG, South Africa (Reuters) -- Wild animals seem to have escaped the Indian Ocean tsunami, adding weight to notions they possess a "sixth sense" for disasters, experts said on Thursday.

Sri Lankan wildlife officials have said the giant waves that killed over 24,000 people along the Indian Ocean island's coast seemingly missed wild beasts, with no dead animals found.

"No elephants are dead, not even a dead hare or rabbit. I think animals can sense disaster. They have a sixth sense. They know when things are happening," H.D. Ratnayake, deputy director of Sri Lanka's Wildlife Department, said on Wednesday.

The waves washed floodwaters up to 3 km (2 miles) inland at Yala National Park in the ravaged southeast, Sri Lanka's biggest wildlife reserve and home to hundreds of wild elephants and several leopards. "There has been a lot of anecdotal evidence about dogs barking or birds migrating before volcanic eruptions or earthquakes. But it has not been proven," said Matthew van Lierop, an animal behaviour specialist at Johannesburg Zoo.

"There have been no specific studies because you can't really test it in a lab or field setting," he told Reuters.

Other authorities concurred with this assessment.

"Wildlife seem to be able to pick up certain phenomenon, especially birds ... there are many reports of birds detecting impending disasters," said Clive Walker, who has written several books on African wildlife.

Animals certainly rely on the known senses such as smell or hearing to avoid danger such as predators.

The notion of an animal "sixth sense" -- or some other mythical power -- is an enduring one which the evidence on Sri Lanka's battered coast is likely to add to.

The Romans saw owls as omens of impending disaster and many ancient cultures viewed elephants as sacred animals endowed with special powers or attributes.

The tsunami was triggered by an earthquake in the Indian Ocean on Sunday. It killed tens of thousands of people in Asia and East Africa.


Copyright 2004 Reuters. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

[Nickdfresh]

Aid arriving for tsunami survivors

Military aircraft and trucks have started delivering food and medicine to tsunami survivors in the hardest-hit areas of Indonesia, Sri Lanka, India and Thailand. Meanwhile, the death toll from the Indian Ocean tsunamis has climbed to at least 135,000 people.

FULL STORY at CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/asiapcf/12/31/asia.quake/index.html)

A boy from Car Nicobar Islands holds a food packet at a relief camp.

Donate:APPLE HOME PAGE (http://www.apple.com/)

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Originally posted by BITEYOASS
Anyone hear anything about Diego Garcia? there is a naval base for the maritime prepositioning ships on that island and I've heard jack shit about it. Even thought it is right next to india.

Looks like they were rather lucky bro...

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/diego-garcia.htm

Diego Garcia
"Camp Justice"
7°20'S 72°25'E

Initial indications are that Diego Garcia was not affected by the Andaman Tsunami of 26 December 2004. It is located south of the tip of India, well with in range of what the tsunami, with a max elevation of 22 and an average elevation of only 4 feet. Civilians monitoring shortwave radio reported on rec.radio.shortwave that a female operator, in answer to a query from an aircraft after giving weather information, reported no ill effects from the earthquake.

Officials said the Diego Garcia Navy Support Facility, which houses about 1,700 military personnel and 1,500 civilian contractors, suffered no damage related to the earthquake and ensuing tsunamis. Personnel at the facility reported no unusual activity or problems over the weekend. Diego Garcia, the southernmost island in the Chagos Archipelago, sits about 1,000 miles south of India and roughly 2,000 miles from the earthquake’s epicenter. Even though an earthquake like Sunday’s will radiate destructive waves in all directions, the damage caused by the water differs greatly depending on the undersea topography.

Favorable ocean topography minimized the tsunami’s impact on the atoll. Diego Garcia is part of the Chagos Archipelago, situated on the southernmost part of the Chagos-Laccadive Ridge. To the east lies the Chagos Trench, a 400 mile long, underwater canyon that ranges in depth from less than 1,00 meters below the surface to depths that plunge to over 5,000 meters. It is one of the deepest regions of the Indian Ocean. Diego Garcia is located to the west of Chagos Trench, which runs north and south. The depth of the Chagos Trench and grade to the shores does not allow for tsunamis to build before passing the atoll. The result of the earthquake was seen as a tidal surge estimated at six feet.

Tsunami runup at the point of impact will depend on how the energy is focused, the travel path of the tsunami waves, the coastal configuration, and the offshore topography. Small islands with steep slopes usually experience little runup - wave heights there are only slightly greater than on the open ocean. This is the reason that islands with steep-sided fringing or barrier reefs are only at moderate risk from tsunamis.

[Nickdfresh]

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