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Nickdfresh
01-07-2005, 03:03 PM
General Warns of 'Spectacular' Iraq Plots


By NICK WADHAMS, Associated Press Writer


BAGHDAD, Iraq — A top U.S. military official said Friday he expects that insurgents may try to carry out "spectacular" attacks as the Iraqi election draws near, while Sunni religious leaders called for unity but persisted in their demands that the vote be delayed.

The comments by Air Force Brig. Gen. Erv Lessel echoed a warning by Iraq's prime minister the day before that insurgent violence would only increase ahead of the Jan. 30 election for a National Assembly.

Hours after Prime Minister Ayad Allawi spoke, a roadside bomb killed seven U.S. soldiers in northwest Baghdad on Thursday, the deadliest attack on American forces since a suicide strike in Mosul 2 1/2 weeks ago. Two Marines also were killed in western Iraq.

A state of emergency, originally announced two months ago, also was extended Thursday for 30 days throughout the country except for the northern Kurdish-run areas. The decree includes a nighttime curfew and gives the government additional power to make arrests and launch military or police operations.

Lessel, deputy chief of staff for strategic communications, said the United States has no intelligence indicating specific plans for a major attack, but the insurgents' biggest weapon was their ability to instill fear.

"I think a worst case is where they have a series of horrific attacks that cause mass casualties in some spectacular fashion in the days leading up to the elections," Lessel told The Associated Press in an interview.

"If you look over the last six months they have steadily escalated the barbaric nature of the attacks they have been committing. A year ago you didn't see these kinds of horrific things," he said.

On Thursday, the commander of U.S. ground forces in Iraq, Lt. Gen. Thomas Metz, also acknowledged that security is poor in four of 18 Iraqi provinces but said delaying the vote would only increase the danger.

The soldiers with Task Force Baghdad were on patrol Thursday evening when their Bradley fighting vehicle hit the explosive, the military said in a statement. Everyone inside the Bradley was killed.

The two Marines killed in action Thursday were members of the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force and lost their lives in Anbar province, which is home to the volatile city of Fallujah.

In the village of Naimiyah, hundreds of refugees from the destroyed nearby city of Fallujah demonstrated after Friday's prayers demanding that U.S. and Iraqi forces leave the city, open all the roads for residents to go back and pay compensation for damaged property.

The previous four days had seen a string of assassinations, suicide car bombings and other assaults that killed 90 people.

But Thursday's toll was the highest for the U.S. military in Iraq since a suicide bombing at a mess tent in Mosul on Dec. 21 killed 22 people, including 14 U.S. soldiers and three American contractors.

The latest deaths brought the number of U.S. troops killed since the beginning of the Iraq war in March 2003 to 1,350, according to an Associated Press count. At least 1,063 died as a result of hostile action.

Allawi said he expected the number of attacks would rise before the Jan. 30 vote and called the decision on prolonging the state of emergency a precaution. He blamed former members of Saddam Hussein's Sunni-dominated regime for the continuing violence.

"Saddam's followers, who have intensely shed the blood of our people and army, are still in action clandestinely, allying with a bunch of criminals, murderers and terrorists who are the enemies of our people and our progress," Allawi said Thursday during a ceremony to mark the national Army Day holiday.

The Bush administration and Allawi, a secular Shiite, have insisted that the elections go forward, despite calls from some Sunni religious leaders for a boycott. Sunni Arab political parties have largely withdrawn from the race because of security fears, particularly in western Iraq.

During Friday prayers, Sheik Mahmoud Al-Somaidie of the Sunnis' Association of Muslim Scholars called for unity among Muslims but repeated Sunnis' demand that the vote be delayed.

"Brothers, be aware of those who are using the elections issue to flare a sectarian war, there is only one country, only one Iraq, and we are all brothers in this country," he said. "Elections have to be an Iraqi demand not the demand of the foreign countries. For that reason, we have to be unified and agreed on one word to free Iraq from the occupation."

President Bush was optimistic Friday, saying the elections will be "a credibly hopeful experience," despite rising violence and doubts that the vote will bring stability and democracy.

"I know it's hard but it's hard for a reason," Bush told reporters in the Oval Office, saying that a small number of insurgents are trying to impede the elections because they fear freedom. "This is a big moment for the Iraqi people."

Foreign ministers of neighboring countries issued a statement Thursday saying they "stood strongly behind the interim government of Iraq" and "urged all segments" of society to participate in the elections. The call was backed by Jordan, a Sunni-dominated neighbor that had previously supported postponing the election.

U.S. military spokesman Lt. Col. Barry Johnson also said Friday that forces in the multinational coalition in Iraq have turned up no sign of a French journalist who has gone missing with her interpreter in Baghdad.

The French daily newspaper Liberation said it had not heard from Florence Aubenas and translator Hussein Hanoun al-Saadi were last seen Wednesday at her Baghdad hotel.

LA Times (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/wire/ats-ap_top12jan07,0,3987671.story)

Nickdfresh
01-07-2005, 03:04 PM
This election looks like it's going to be a 'real doozy.'

Nickdfresh
01-07-2005, 03:08 PM
8:53 AM PST, January 7, 2005

Bush Optimistic About Iraq Vote Despite Warnings


By Ronald Brownstein, Times Staff Writer


WASHINGTON-President Bush today rejected a sharp warning that the election scheduled this month in Iraq could further inflame the conflict there and said it would be "such an incredibly hopeful experience for the Iraqi people."

On Thursday, Brent Scowcroft, national security advisor to Bush's father, said that rather than leading to stability, the election could increase the risk of civil war and further alienate Iraq's Sunni Muslim population and that it had "a great potential for deepening the conflict."


"Indeed, we may be seeing an incipient civil war [in Iraq] at the present time," he said.

Asked if he shared Scowcroft's concerns, Bush told reporters, "quite the opposite."

The president said the election was "a historical marker for our Iraq policy," and added, "we're making great progress."

"I suspect if you were asking me questions 18 months ago and I said there's going to be elections in Iraq, you would have had trouble containing yourself from laughing out loud at the president," Bush said.

The president acknowledged that in parts of four of Iraq's 18 provinces, "terrorists are trying to stop people from voting."

The commander of U.S. ground forces in Iraq, Lt. Gen. Thomas Metz, said there on Thursday that conditions in significant areas of the four provinces were not secure enough for voting.

"I understand that parts of the Sunni area are being targeted by these killers," the president said during a photo session in the Oval Office at which he announced the leadership of a commission to study U.S. tax policy. "And their message is that if you vote, we'll kill you; but the real message is that we can't stand democracy."

"And you know, if the free world steps back and lets these people have their way, it'll be 'we can't stand democracy here,' and then 'we can't stand democracy there,' and we'll never address the root causes of terror and hatred, which is frustration caused by tyranny."

In one sense, the comments from Scowcroft, a retired Air Force lieutenant general, were not surprising: He has long been a critic of the Iraq war. But his stark warning about potential civil war marked one of the most ominous assessments about the implications of the upcoming election from a high-ranking former official.

Scowcroft made his comments at a luncheon sponsored by the New America Foundation, a centrist, nonpartisan Washington think tank. At the forum, Zbigniew Brzezinski, President Carter's national security advisor, also offered a grim prognosis for Iraq.

Brzezinski said the United States should meet its goals of producing a reasonably stable Iraqi government "if we are willing to put in 500,000 troops, spend $200 billion a year, probably have the draft and have some kind of wartime taxation."

Scowcroft, an international business consultant in Washington, also served as national security advisor to President Ford. Scowcroft recruited Condoleezza Rice, Bush's choice as the next secretary of State, to her first White House job, hiring her as a Soviet expert at the National Security Council under President George H.W. Bush.

The current Bush administration hopes that the planned parliamentary elections in Iraq will help end the insurgency by creating a government with broad popular support. But Scowcroft said he believed there was "a distinct possibility" that the balloting could lead to the breakup of the country by triggering violence between Shiite Muslim and Sunni Muslim forces, which in turn would prompt the Kurds to secede.

At the luncheon, attended by journalists and foreign policy experts, Scowcroft said the risk was that the election would deepen feelings of estrangement among Sunnis, who constitute an estimated 20% of the population but dominated Iraq under ousted dictator Saddam Hussein's rule.

Scowcroft said he believed that the insurgency was "gradually morphing" from a resistance by elements of the former Hussein regime into a broader "Sunni revolt" driven by fear that the Shiite majority will elect a government controlled by its members.

The election, scheduled for Jan. 30, will elect a transitional national assembly to write a new constitution and select a new government. The leading Sunni political party, the Iraqi Islamic Party, has withdrawn from the election, saying it should be delayed until security improves in Sunni regions of the country. Interim President Ghazi Ajil Yawer, a Sunni, suggested this week that the election might need to be delayed.

But the Bush administration and interim Prime Minister Iyad Allawi have contended that the election should be held on schedule.

Scowcroft said that if the balloting produced an election dominated by Shiites, "that could in fact turn the Sunnis to revolution and civil war against a Shia government."

Some other experts, such as Larry Diamond, a democracy expert at the conservative Hoover Institution who advised U.S. authorities in Iraq, have raised similar concerns.

Scowcroft did not say at the meeting whether he believed that the election should be delayed, and he could not be reached afterward. At the meeting, Scowcroft said that Bush should try again to persuade European allies to contribute significant numbers of troops to Iraq and ask the United Nations to take a more prominent role in developing the new Iraqi government.

Reducing American visibility would improve the prospects for success in Iraq, he argued, because "we are now seen as the occupier."

Brzezinski agreed that Bush should make a renewed push for international troops that could significantly swell the overall security force in Iraq. If no other countries are willing to participate at meaningful levels, he said, the U.S. should begin withdrawing its troops from the country this year.

If large numbers of U.S. forces remain in Iraq without more international support, Brzezinski said, "we will be viewed eventually as the other side of the coin of the Israeli occupation of the Palestinians."

Times staff writer James Gerstenzang contributed to this report.

Link (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/iraq/la-010705usiraq_lat,0,4169328.story?coll=la-home-headlines)

ODShowtime
01-07-2005, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
"I understand that parts of the Sunni area are being targeted by these killers," the president said during a photo session in the Oval Office at which he announced the leadership of a commission to study U.S. tax policy. "And their message is that if you vote, we'll kill you; but the real message is that we can't stand democracy."

That's god-damned retarded. "we can't stand democracy." The shit just isn't going to work in that country because the way the region was initially divided and the way those people are brought up to hate and distrust one another.

Now does gw not understand this or is he just bullshiting? Which is it god damn it? Is he that dumb or does he just think we are? Does he even give a shit?

ODShowtime
01-07-2005, 04:22 PM
it's like he doesn't understand the fundamental concepts of democracy. Yet he has been elected the leader of the most powerful country in the world. We all live in bizarro world.

BITEYOASS
01-07-2005, 09:44 PM
What really sucks is that I'm gonna be in the middle of this shit pretty soon, but I won't give any details.

LoungeMachine
01-07-2005, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by ODShowtime


Yet he has been elected the leader of the most powerful country in the world. .

elected??????????



hardly

ODShowtime
01-08-2005, 12:07 AM
Originally posted by BITEYOASS
What really sucks is that I'm gonna be in the middle of this shit pretty soon, but I won't give any details.

Buddy, I support you guys. Just serve with honor and you'll be alright. Good luck.

Nickdfresh
01-08-2005, 07:52 AM
Originally posted by BITEYOASS
What really sucks is that I'm gonna be in the middle of this shit pretty soon, but I won't give any details.

Good luck Bitey, God be with you.