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Nickdfresh
01-17-2005, 03:39 PM
Saturday, January 15, 2005


Mass trauma blamed for Thai ghost sightings


PATONG, Thailand: A second surge of tsunami terror is hitting southern Thailand, but this time it is a wave of foreign ghosts terrifying locals in what health experts described as an outpouring of delayed mass trauma.

Tales of ghost sightings in the six worst-hit southern provinces have become endemic, with many locals saying they are too terrified to venture near the beach or into the ocean.

Spooked volunteer body searchers on the resort areas of Phi Phi Island and Khao Lak are reported to have looked for tourists heard laughing and singing on the beach only to find darkness and empty sand.

Taxi drivers in Patong swear they have picked up a foreign man and his Thai girlfriend going to the airport with all their baggage, only to then look in the rear-view mirror and find an empty seat.

Guards at a beachfront plaza in Patong said one of their men had quit after hearing a foreign woman cry “help me” all night long, and similar stories abound of a foreign ghost walking along the shoreline at night calling for her child.

The majority of Thais are suspicious, believing ghosts live in most large trees and keeping a spirit house in every home where daily offerings of food and drink are given to calm nearby paranormal entities.

Mental-health experts warn that tsunami survivors have picked up on this cultural factor as a way of expressing mass trauma after living through the deadly waves and witnessing horrific scenes in their aftermath.

“This is a type of mass hallucination that is a cue to the trauma being suffered by people who are missing so many dead people, and seeing so many dead people, and only talking about dead people,” the Thai psychologist and media commentator, Wallop Piyamanotham, said.

He said people who claimed to have seen ghosts firsthand were people that mental health specialists would be paying particular attention to.

Wallop is organizing a team of Thai and international health workers to join other specialists in affected provinces who are helping people suffering psychological trauma as a result of the crisis.

Amateurs and professionals alike have been pivotal in the recovery of thousands of corpses from beaches and coastal towns ravaged by tsunamis on December 26, and in the subsequent processing of handling bloated and rapidly decomposing bodies at huge makeshift morgues.

Their round-the-clock work could be taking a devastating toll, with at least seven workers having already been hospitalized suffering extreme trauma.

Volunteers helping at Thai temples, transformed into scenes of grisly death as forensic experts struggle with the task of identification, are especially vulnerable, psychologists and doctors said.

Wallop said widespread trauma began to set in about four days after the waves hit.

“This is when people start seeing these farangs [foreigners] walking on the sand or in the ocean,” he said, adding the sightings started about the same time as people “began calling for help, crying, some scared.”

Many people said they could not escape the smell of death or the sights they had seen while assisting in the crisis, he said.

Wallop said the reason almost all ghost sightings appear to involve foreign tourists stems from a belief that spirits can only be put to rest by relatives at the scene, such as was done to many Thai victims.

“Thai people believe that when people die, a relative has to cremate them or bless them. If this is not done or the body is not found, people believe the person will appear over and over again to show where they are,” he said.

Wallop said in time people who need counseling would be reached and assisted and the sightings would settle down, but many locals claimed they would not be swayed by such talk.

“After visiting Wat Baan Muang [a temple where hundreds of bodies are still stored] I’m very scared. I can’t sleep at night and when the wind comes I’m sure it is the spirits coming,” said Napaporn Phroyrung_thong, a Patong bar manager.

“I believe in ghosts and I always will. [The tsunami] happened so quickly, the foreigners didn’t know what happened and they all think they are still on the beach. They all think they are still on holiday,” she said.
--AFP

The Manila Times (http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2005/jan/15/yehey/top_stories/20050115top5.html)

Golden AWe
01-17-2005, 03:50 PM
the restless souls are on the loose...

if the hell is full of people, it means we have to stand and wait...

rustoffa
01-17-2005, 09:21 PM
Those stupid fuckers better hope the weird deep-sea fishes that got washed were souless.
:D

http://img95.exs.cx/img95/3884/blobfish8zx.jpg
http://img95.exs.cx/img95/9707/chimaerafish4ip.jpg
http://img95.exs.cx/img95/563/coffinfish1an.jpg
http://img95.exs.cx/img95/9564/fangtooth0kj.jpg
http://img95.exs.cx/img95/7341/viperfish7vm.jpg

damianleeroth
01-18-2005, 12:46 AM
Since I live and teach here in Bangkok I'll add some more to this. The Thais are also afraid to eat fish or any seafood here now as they think that the fish must've eaten human corpses. No seafood sales here now. The Thais are really cool, sweet people but have always been really superstitious about ghosts (or "pi" as they're called here). I don't think the whole enormity of the problem has been seen yet. We've got camps filled with traumatized children who lost their parents to the Tsunami. Thank God the King of Thailand promised the country to provide them w/a full education up to and including college.

Mezro
01-18-2005, 02:04 PM
Hey Rusty. Where the hell did you find those pictures?

Mezro...URL please...look at that first one...LOL...it looks like Michael Anthony...

Mezro
01-18-2005, 02:06 PM
Originally posted by damianleeroth
Since I live and teach here in Bangkok I'll add some more to this.

So damian...how many katoey toys do you keep on the side.

Mezro...come on...dish it out...we want the truth...

Golden AWe
01-18-2005, 03:14 PM
interesting pics...thanks!

Nickdfresh
01-18-2005, 04:22 PM
Wow. I thought this thread would get no responses. I don't know if I believe in ghosts or not; I don't in the conventional--disembodied spirit sense anyways. But any area with that many people killed in such a short amount of time, makes one wonder.

Knucklebones
01-18-2005, 05:00 PM
Originally posted by damianleeroth
Since I live and teach here in Bangkok I'll add some more to this. The Thais are also afraid to eat fish or any seafood here now as they think that the fish must've eaten human corpses. No seafood sales here now. The Thais are really cool, sweet people but have always been really superstitious about ghosts (or "pi" as they're called here). I don't think the whole enormity of the problem has been seen yet. We've got camps filled with traumatized children who lost their parents to the Tsunami. Thank God the King of Thailand promised the country to provide them w/a full education up to and including college.




The fish probably are eating them.

damianleeroth
01-18-2005, 09:30 PM
Nah, no katoey toys. Most are scafed up by the English and dumb Americans who end up kissing whiskers. Nana Plaza's a blast though even though they cracked down on the nude dancing you can still get a hot 20 year old Issan girl to give you "around the world" for less than $20 USD in the back short time rooms. Stop on down and the first drink's on me.

Mezro
01-18-2005, 10:28 PM
Originally posted by damianleeroth
you can still get a hot 20 year old Issan girl to give you "around the world" for less than $20 USD in the back short time rooms. Stop on down and the first drink's on me.

Short time is the only time when you are on holiday.:D

Mezro...have to make my way over soon...

damianleeroth
01-19-2005, 12:40 AM
Definitely Mezro. I guarantee w/all the stuff going down out here in the LOS the rates for EVERYTHING will fall as well. Make your way out here and you won't forget it.

scottydabodi
01-19-2005, 03:19 PM
I don't know a DAMN thing about Thai Ghosts, but I know ALL SORTSA SHIT about Thai Chicks!!

ODShowtime
01-19-2005, 06:42 PM
those fish are wild