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Island Boy
02-07-2005, 01:49 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/3379436

Associated Press
Posted: 19 hours ago



Jose Canseco says in his upcoming book that he injected Mark McGwire with steroids and introduced several other sluggers to the drugs, the New York Daily News reported Sunday.

The long-awaited "Juiced: Wild Times, Rampant 'Roids, Smash Hits, and How Baseball Got Big," is scheduled for release by Regan Books on Feb. 21. Regan publicist Paul Olsewski told The Associated Press in an e-mail that the release date could be moved up.
Parent company HarperCollins posted a book description on its Web site that said Canseco "made himself a guinea pig of the performance-enhancing drugs" and added the 1988 AL MVP "mixed, matched and experimented to such a degree that he became known throughout the league as 'The Chemist."'

The Daily News did not quote from the book and said it was still being edited. The newspaper would not say how it got the information.

Canseco did not respond to an e-mail from the AP.

Canseco said he, McGwire and Jason Giambi shot steroids together in the bathroom stall at the Oakland Coliseum, the Daily News reported. McGwire has always denied using steroids.

"I have always told the truth and I am saddened I continue to face this line of questioning," McGwire told the newspaper.

Canseco said he introduced Texas teammates Rafael Palmeiro, Ivan Rodriguez and Juan Gonzalez to steroids after being traded to the Rangers in 1992.

"Neither our current owner, general manager and manager were with the Rangers then," Texas spokesman Gregg Elkin said. "The Rangers continue to support baseball's initiative to get steroids out of the game."

Canseco also said President Bush, the Rangers' general managing partner at the time, must have known about the steroid use.

White House spokesman Trent Duffy did not specifically address Canseco's assertion, but said Sunday that Bush's position on steroids "has been known for some time," noting that he condemned the drugs in his 2004 State of the Union address.

A few years ago, Canseco claimed that 80 percent of major leaguers had taken steroids. Last spring, he said: "I think the numbers may have changed. Who knows? Maybe the numbers have diminished."

Canseco hit 462 home runs in a major league career from 1985-2001.

Baseball recently adopted a tougher steroid-testing program after the sport came under increased scrutiny about the drugs. Barry Bonds, Gary Sheffield and Giambi testified before a federal grand jury investigating the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative known as BALCO.




I think Canseco is such an A$$Clown.

ALinChainz
02-07-2005, 01:58 PM
He comes off as way bitter about baseball because he feels the owners may have colluded against him, no one wanting him, and his being just short of 500 homers.

ALinChainz
02-08-2005, 05:43 PM
White House: Bush not aware of steroid abuse during time with Rangers


February 8, 2005


WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush was not aware of any steroid use by Texas Rangers players while he was a team executive, the White House said Monday.

In his upcoming book, Jose Canseco said he introduced Rafael Palmeiro, Ivan Rodriguez and Juan Gonzalez to steroids after being traded to Texas in 1992, the New York Daily News reported. Canseco said Bush, the Rangers' managing partner at the time, must have known about the drugs.

White House press secretary Scott McClellan said he spoke to Bush about alleged steroid use.

``If there was, he was not aware of it at the time,'' McClellan said.

``He has recognized, for some time now, that steroids is a growing problem in professional sports, particularly Major League Baseball,'' he said. ``That's why the president has made addressing the issue a priority in his administration.''

Canseco's book, ``Juiced: Wild Times, Rampant 'Roids, Smash Hits, and How Baseball Got Big,'' was scheduled for release by Regan Books on Feb. 21. Company spokeswoman Jennifer Suitor told The New York Times that the book's release was moved up a week to Feb. 14.

Suitor also told the newspaper in Tuesday's editions that Canseco's appearance on ``60 Minutes,'' originally scheduled for Feb. 20, was moved up to Feb. 13.

Canseco, who has refused to publicly discuss the book or what it contains, told the Times he would address the media after the book is released.

``I will give a huge press conference, internationally and worldwide, when the book comes out,'' he said. ``I'll answer any questions then.''

Palmeiro, now playing for Baltimore, disputed Canseco's claim.

``I categorically deny any assertion made by Jose Canseco that I used steroids,'' Palmeiro said in a statement. ``At no point in my career have I ever used steroids, let alone any substance banned by Major League Baseball.

``As I have never had a personal relationship with Canseco, any suggestion that he taught me anything, about steroid use or otherwise, is ludicrous. We were teammates and that was the extent of our relationship. I am saddened that he felt it necessary to attempt to tarnish my image and that of the game I love.''

Gonzalez's agent, Alan Nero, said, ``Our immediate reaction is we feel sorry for Jose, that he felt he had to do this for whatever reason. And we feel badly for everyone he implicated in this.

``Juan has never used steroids and has never been in favor of their use. And, in fact, in 2000, when Major League Baseball did its survey, Juan was in favor of testing and was one of only two players that volunteered to be tested at that time,'' Nero said.

Rodriguez signed with Detroit last season. Tigers president Dave Dombrowski said the team had no comment on the report.

Canseco also claims he injected former Oakland teammate Mark McGwire with steroids. McGwire has denied using steroids.

``I have always told the truth and I am saddened I continue to face this line of questioning,'' McGwire told the Daily News.


http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylc=X3oDMTBpNWZic251BF9TAzI1NjY0ODI1BHNlYwN0 aA--?slug=ap-canseco-bush&prov=ap&type=lgns

GAR
02-08-2005, 08:35 PM
Canseco needs to be responsible for Canseco and not everybody else at this time.

ALinChainz
02-08-2005, 10:52 PM
From 40-40 and possible HOF player to joke.

Looking to make a bundle with this book.

Lou
02-09-2005, 12:06 AM
Maybe he's exaggerating but I get the feeling, and I don't know why, that he's pretty much telling the truth. Look at Ivan Rodriguez' pudgy face...it's very plausible he's doing 'roids. I've thought for years that Rafael Palmeiro was roiding up given all the HR's he's hitting in his late 30's.

ALinChainz
02-09-2005, 12:27 PM
Pudge came out in the papers today and said not only is it untrue, but he was comepletely shocked he would even mention his name.

I have a feeling also there maybe some truth because like I said, Jose is a bitter man, but he fucked his own credibility with all his off field issues and isn't going to be believed by most.

Warham
02-10-2005, 06:45 PM
Anytime baseball and steroids is mentioned nowadays, it's guilty until proven innocent, even if coming out of Canseco's piehole.

Va Beach VH Fan
02-10-2005, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by Lou
Maybe he's exaggerating but I get the feeling, and I don't know why, that he's pretty much telling the truth.

The stars must be lined up right or something, 'cause I agree with Lou....

IMO, he went WAY too specific, rather than just make a blanket statement about how many players were shooting 'roids....

Why would he specifically say that he shot McGwire in the ass in the bathroom ??

Now Giambi I can understand, he's already been exposed....

ALinChainz
02-10-2005, 11:04 PM
It's working too.

Pre-sale orders of the book are booming.

And I just got done agreeing with Lou in the hockey thread.

:D

Bob_R
02-11-2005, 09:48 AM
You mean to tell me Raefel Palmeiro takes steroids as well as Viagra :D

EbDawson
02-12-2005, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by Lou
I've thought for years that Rafael Palmeiro was roiding up given all the HR's he's hitting in his late 30's.

I don't know. I've seen Palmeiro up close a couple of times at some signings, shook his hand once. Never looked like the kind of guy that was on the juice. Not a big guy, just happens to have one of the sweetest swings in baseball.

Golden AWe
02-15-2005, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by Lou
Maybe he's exaggerating but I get the feeling, and I don't know why, that he's pretty much telling the truth. Look at Ivan Rodriguez' pudgy face...it's very plausible he's doing 'roids. I've thought for years that Rafael Palmeiro was roiding up given all the HR's he's hitting in his late 30's.


have some van hagar, lou

Jamocha Joe
02-17-2005, 01:54 PM
There might be something about baseball conspiring against him though. I remember when he played his last season for the White Sox. They were terrible, but they drew some pretty impressive crowds to see Canseco. Nothing else about that team was worth watching. I could never figure why some crappy team wouldn't pick him up cheap just to boost attendance. There had to be some reason no one would touch him.

ALinChainz
02-17-2005, 04:54 PM
Strip Canseco of award for steroid admission cries hopeful rival

February 17, 2005


NEW YORK (AFP) - Former Boston outfielder Mike Greenwell, second to Jose Canseco in voting for the 1988 American League Most Valuable Player Award, said he should get the honor following Canseco's admission he took steroids.

Greenwell told the New York Daily News that finishing second to Canseco in the MVP vote cost him contract bargaining leverage and millions of dollars in salary over the subsequent years of his career.

"It cost me my legacy," Greenwell said. "Nobody remembers who finishes second. There are only so many guys who can walk around saying 'I'm an American League MVP.' It bothered me to lose to a guy who was using steroids."


Canseco's controversial new book, in which he admits steroid taking and says he helped numerous other baseball stars with performance-enhancing drugs, has been a best-seller since it debuted Monday when 2005 season practices began.

"I knew I wasn't playing on a level playing field, but that's life," said Greenwell. "For him to come out and accuse other guys of using steroids, if you're going to do that, you should be willing to suffer the consequences."

Among those Canseco said were steroid takers were retired former one-season home run record-setter Mark McGwire and Jason Giambi, who is playing for the New York Yankees .

"It's not going away unfortunately," Yankees manager Joe Torre said. "I'm looking forward to baseball to sort of override any of the other stuff. But that's reality."

Major League Baseball players opened training camps in Florida and Arizona amid a cloud of controversy about steroids, which were not banned in the sport before last season's testing program, which was toughened for this season but still remains far shy of World Anti-Doping Agency standards.

"It's a big issue," Chicago Cubs pitcher Mike Remlinger said. "We hope we can put it behind us and move forward. (But) the way things are something keeps popping up every other week. And you deal with it. Hopefully it's part of the past of the game."

Owners and players benefitted from not cracking down on steroids even as players were bulking up because the homer record chases they created brought back the attention of fans angered after a labor fight wiped out the 1994 World Series .

With such obvious motivation for turning a blind eye and more revelations about steroid taking since the BALCO scandal broke nearly 18 months ago, trust is shaky at best.

"It's going to be a tough year as far as a (publicity) hit for baseball dealing with this issue," Chicago Cubs standout Mark Prior said. "It's troubling.

"This is my fourth season and I'm still pretty young in the league. But ever since my second year, this cloud of steroid use has been hanging over us. It definitely has painted a darker picture of what it used to be.

"This is still a great league, still a great game, and still a game that's deeply rooted in this country's history. So if we can get to the root of this, really clean it up and get the integrity back, this game will thrive again."


http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=afp-baseballusasteroids&prov=afp&type=lgns

monkeythe
02-19-2005, 01:38 AM
I finally got the book earlier today. My wife got it for me from Amazon for Valentines Day, but the shipment was dealyed. I'll give a report on it in a few days and post any interesting nuggets that the media may have missed.

ALinChainz
02-20-2005, 04:41 PM
Reading that Jose is in tax trouble in Massachusetts and selling his World Series ring.

Obviously needs more money than the book is bringing him.

POJO_Risin
02-20-2005, 05:00 PM
I just saw that myself....40 G's for his Yankee series ring...and 800 for an autographed CWS jersey for fucking 800 bucks...what a dickhead...

ALinChainz
02-20-2005, 05:27 PM
Any trophies he had ... his brother too.

Game meant nothing to him.

POJO_Risin
02-20-2005, 05:51 PM
His fucking brother...Ozzie...great career there...lmfao...

monkeythe
02-22-2005, 09:26 PM
Book Review

The book had 2 major themes running through it the whole time. The first is that steroides are good & those that don't like them are ignorant. The side effects are due to people not knowing what they are doing and they should be made legal. He feels that the average life expectancy rate can be close to 100 if people were allowed to take steroids.

The second theme is that nothing is his fault, everything bad thing that has happened to him was becuase of the media, umpires, officials of MLB, and a corrupt justice system. All of this is because he is a Latino man that became famous before it was OK to be a great Latin player. His hatred of the doublestandards between him & McGwire is stated almost every other page. He was picked on because he is Cuban while McGwire is an untouchable all-american boy.

As far as the who used steroids, the media has already said all the names except for Ozzie Canseco.

There are several pages of the book dedicated to his time as a Yankee. After reading it I understand why he has no sentimental value for the ring and sold it. He also says that Jeter is a great player that can be even better if he used steroids.

Strong recommendation to avoid this book, unless you are interested in taking steroids and he gives some good tips.

CROWBAR
02-22-2005, 09:45 PM
Yeah sure, Canseco's a money whore, no doubt there! But, it's not like he's telling the sports fans anything they haven't already known for years!

The MLB community is shitting their pants about finally being found out about!

Can you imagine? :D

Bunch of overpaid whiners to start with

Freeagency killed sports as we knew it

Fuck 'em

Let the hammer fall

Hits will be paid, Canseco may/maynot fall

but he is telling the truth, like it or not

making those bastards squirm

twonabomber
02-23-2005, 10:22 AM
Canseco was on Today yesterday morning...he's willing to take a lie detector test to "prove" all this...but he wants to do it on pay-per-view. pretty much came across as a major asshole too.

Bob_R
02-23-2005, 01:57 PM
Yup. Canseco's a major asshole Twona.

ALinChainz
02-24-2005, 06:57 PM
Palmeiro considers lawsuit against Canseco

By DAVID GINSBURG, AP Sports Writer

February 24, 2005


FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. (AP) -- The Baltimore Orioles' Rafael Palmeiro is leaving open the possibility of filing a lawsuit against Jose Canseco, who said he introduced the first baseman to steroids in 1992 when both players were with the Texas Rangers.

Canseco cited Palmeiro as a steroid user in his new book. In an interview on the CBS television show ``60 Minutes,'' Canseco said he injected the drug into Palmeiro.

Palmeiro issued a statement last month in which he denied he ever used steroids, and he emphatically backed up that assertion Thursday after his first practice of spring training. Palmeiro also said he's considered hiring the law firm of Orioles owner Peter Angelos to take legal action against Canseco.

``The one thing I can say is I have the best law firm and the best lawyer standing in the wings in Peter Angelos,'' he said. ``I have options available for me. He stands behind me and he's ready. I will look at all my options and I'll decide.''

Palmeiro, 40, ranks among the greatest hitters in baseball history. The four-time All-Star has 551 career homers, 2,922 hits and a .289 batting average. He would prefer to focus on preparing for his 20th big league season, but the topic kept swinging back to steroids during an impromptu interview session in the Baltimore dugout at Fort Lauderdale Stadium.

``I can't worry about those things. Along the way, there's always going to be someone saying something about you, whether it's true or not. You just go on,'' Palmeiro said. ``My job right now is to get ready for baseball. My mind has to be here.''

Orioles manager Lee Mazzilli told Palmeiro that he has the full support of the team.

``It's totally unfair because it's always hearsay,'' Mazzilli said. ``I think in this country you're innocent until proven guilty. They don't have to defend themselves. If you feel good about yourself, you shouldn't worry about what people say.''

Palmeiro is at a loss in trying to figure out why Canseco chose to include him as one of several players that used steroids.

``He and I grew up playing ball together in the Miami area, but we never did anything together other than play on the same team,'' Palmeiro said. ``We went our separate ways after high school and I never saw him again until he was in the big leagues and I was in the minors. He and I have never been close friends or anything. We were teammates, but that's about it.''

Palmeiro initially was concerned that Canseco's accusation might upset his two sons, ages 10 and 14, but that fear was unfounded.

``We were watching TV, and my oldest son saw it on the news. He started laughing,'' Palmeiro said. ``He's like, 'What's this guy saying?' My kids understand that a lot of the stuff is made up. (Canseco) has his reasons for accusing people, and he's got his reasons for writing a book that's trying to bring our game down.

``This game was great to him. He was the only one at fault for destroying himself. He should be thankful that he had an opportunity to play.''


http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylc=X3oDMTBpNWZic251BF9TAzI1NjY0ODI1BHNlYwN0 aA--?slug=ap-palmeiro-canseco&prov=ap&type=lgns

JCOOK
02-24-2005, 11:10 PM
Originally posted by Lou
Maybe he's exaggerating but I get the feeling, and I don't know why, that he's pretty much telling the truth. Look at Ivan Rodriguez' pudgy face...it's very plausible he's doing 'roids. I've thought for years that Rafael Palmeiro was roiding up given all the HR's he's hitting in his late 30's.

Gotta agree with you Lou,I always thought from the early 90's these guys were juiced. What do we do now? The genie has been out of the bottle for a long time.Personally I cant' look at Bonds or McGuire,Sosas' or the rest of their records the same. As far as Canseco lying..... its' a case of hate the message not the messenger.
Bottom line I won't watch baseball again for along time unless its'"The Natural or Field of dreams":(

ALinChainz
03-03-2005, 11:41 PM
House committee invites Canseco to testify on steroid use in baseball

By JIM ABRAMS, Associated Press Writer

March 3, 2005


WASHINGTON (AP) -- Former slugger Jose Canseco and several players he has accused of joining him in abusing steroids have been invited to testify before a House committee.

``There's a cloud over baseball, and perhaps a public discussion of the issues, with witnesses testifying under oath, can provide a glimpse of sunlight,'' said Rep. Tom Davis, R-Va., chairman of the House Government Reform Committee.

Davis and the top Democrat on the panel, Rep. Henry Waxman of California, announced Thursday that they were inviting Canseco and six other former or active players, including the New York Yankees Jason Giambi and former St. Louis Cardinal Mark McGwire, to testify at a March 17 hearing.


A spokeswoman for Waxman, who last week wrote Davis to urge hearings on baseball's response to the steroid scandal, said they don't know if the players will agree to attend. Commissioner Bud Selig has also been invited.

Canseco, in a recently released book, admits using steroids and alleges that he injected the drugs with McGwire and introduced steroids to other stars, including Rafael Palmeiro of the Baltimore Orioles. Palmeiro and others named by Canseco have denied using the performance-enhancing drugs.

The San Francisco Chronicle reported in December that Giambi told a federal grand jury in 2003 that he had used steroids.

Also on the invitation list are Palmeiro, Boston Red Sox pitcher Curt Schilling, current Baltimore Orioles slugger Sammy Sosa and Frank Thomas of the Chicago White Sox.

Major League Baseball and the players' association in January agreed to a tougher steroid-testing program in the wake of allegations that Giambi and Barry Bonds were steroid users. Bonds has also denied knowingly taking the drugs.

Va Beach VH Fan
03-04-2005, 08:19 PM
I hope he goes up to Capitol Hill and sings like a fucking bird....

rustoffa
03-04-2005, 08:29 PM
Bonds probably couldn't fit his artificially-enlarged head through the metal detector.

ALinChainz
03-04-2005, 11:34 PM
Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
I hope he goes up to Capitol Hill and sings like a fucking bird....

He's going to.

His agent said he was definitely a go.

McGwire is supposively considering it, Palmeiro says fuck it.

Should be fun.

ALinChainz
03-04-2005, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by rustoffa
Bonds probably couldn't fit his artificially-enlarged head through the metal detector.

He SWEARS his head is the same size and has been. And his gnads haven't shrunk and still work.

Funny shit. He said he would bust his kid up if he ever catches him using roids.

Unreal.

Va Beach VH Fan
03-05-2005, 08:44 AM
I'm reading that if anyone declines, they're going to subpoena their ass...

Good, get some cojones....