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Big Troubles
03-13-2006, 07:13 PM
The original Smash is shown here. Manager Johnny V.

rustoffa
03-13-2006, 10:36 PM
Originally posted by Big Troubles
Favorite Tag Teams?


My personal fav's

Demolition
Arn Anderson & Tully B./Brainbusters
Hart Foundation
Owen Hart & British Bulldog
Mark Henry & Dlo Brown
HeadBangers
NAO
Rockers
LOD
Freebirds
HollyWood Blonds
Owen Hart & Jeff Jarrett
RVD & Kane
The Fabulous Rougeau Brothers
Orient Express
Hellraiser Hawk & Chonos
Quebecers
Harlem Heat
Collosol Kongs
Powers of Pain

A couple more.
:D

Dennis Condrey & Bobby Eaton: The Midnight Express
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Wrestling I & II: II unmasks The Assassin
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Dan
03-13-2006, 10:41 PM
Originally posted by Big Troubles
Favorite Tag Teams?


My personal fav's

Demolition
Arn Anderson & Tully B./Brainbusters
Hart Foundation
Owen Hart & British Bulldog
Mark Henry & Dlo Brown
HeadBangers
NAO
Rockers
LOD
Freebirds
HollyWood Blonds
Owen Hart & Jeff Jarrett
RVD & Kane
The Fabulous Rougeau Brothers
Orient Express
Hellraiser Hawk & Chonos
Quebecers
Harlem Heat
Collosol Kongs
Powers of Pain

I liked The Twin Towers

Big Troubles
03-14-2006, 12:57 PM
Originally posted by rustoffa
A couple more.
:D

Dennis Condrey & Bobby Eaton: The Midnight Express
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Wrestling I & II: II unmasks The Assassin
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ah yes.... I liked the newer one better!

amadeus
03-14-2006, 01:01 PM
Mike Rotundo (I.R.S.) and Barry Windham- The US Express LOL

Big Troubles
03-14-2006, 03:23 PM
Andre "Test" Martin wrestled a dark (try out) match and beat Val Venis this week on Raw. He will more than likely be given another match on Smackdown, and then offered a contract.

The funny part? The last time I read anything about Test was from an interview he did in Nov of last year, regarding his release, Eddie and the drug policy.

http://www.sescoops.com/artman/publish/article_2070.shtml


I hate wrestlers who say one thing, and then totally turn around and be someone else.

Big Troubles
03-14-2006, 03:24 PM
"WWE doesn't pay you anymore than you would make at a 9 to 5 job"

Big Troubles
03-14-2006, 03:25 PM
"My seven years of busting my ass for them and putting over the boss's son while my foot was broken in a cast was all forgotten about. When Johnny Ace called me and told me they were releasing me - which of course he put all the heat on Vince - I said to him, 'What kind of message are you sending the boys that if they get hurt they are going to get fired?' "

rustoffa
03-14-2006, 10:20 PM
Originally posted by Big Troubles
ah yes.... I liked the newer one better!

Yeesh.

You gotta be kidding me!
:cool:

Condrey and Eaton defeated/beat the shit out of everyone back then. Arguably, the first "independent heel" team.

The Russians (It's a good thing they're bald, save's us knocking the hair off their heads!), The Rock & Roll Express (God, did they beat the shit out of them), The Road Warriors ("lift all the weights' you want, they don't hit back!), The Andersons' (Thanks' for the belts, you want us to call a wrecker?)......

I may have mentioned this before, but they're responsible for the funniest shit I've ever seen on a wrasslin' show. They were just cuntpletely beating the shit out of this job-team..one of 'em had a mask on. Anyway, they knocked out the other dude, and untied the masked fuckers' mask....then they re-tied it on backwards! The fucker was walking around like pin-the-tail-on-the-donkey! Fucking Eaton is calling him towards the ring...when he gets there, Eaton baseball-slides him halfway across the studio!!!

LMFAO...Solie's like, "Someone needs to stop this." So Condrey picks the fucker with his mask on backwards, and assures' Solie it's over. Then he guides the dipshit to a folding chair....helps him sit down in it. Right when he starts to walk away like everything's over?

Eaton comes flying by and clothesline's the dipshit like 20 feet backward out of the chair!!!

Condrey goes over to Solie, snatches the mic out of his hand, and goes, "don't ever call for help, it only makes it worse."
:p

Mr Badguy
03-15-2006, 08:33 AM
Scott Steiner`s in TNA!

Probably pushed right in to the main event scene.

What a bunch of idiots.

Vinnie Velvet
03-15-2006, 09:01 AM
Originally posted by Mr Badguy
Scott Steiner`s in TNA!

Probably pushed right in to the main event scene.

What a bunch of idiots.

The thing that TNA wants to do is to get some of the more 'higher' profile names that were involved in the classic Monday Night Wars between WCW and WWE.

The goal for TNA is to go head-to-head against RAW on Monday nights.

There still a long way from doing that -- but from their perspective--getting Sting and now Steiner, they think they're on their way.

Big Troubles
03-15-2006, 09:20 AM
Originally posted by rustoffa
Yeesh.

You gotta be kidding me!
:cool:

like, "Someone needs to stop this." So Condrey picks the fucker with his mask on backwards, and assures' Solie it's over. Then he guides the dipshit to a folding chair....helps him sit down in it. Right when he starts to walk away like everything's over?

Eaton comes flying by and clothesline's the dipshit like 20 feet backward out of the chair!!!

Condrey goes over to Solie, snatches the mic out of his hand, and goes, "don't ever call for help, it only makes it worse."
:p

I was kidding. :D Of course the orginals were better. The original 3 nWo, the original DX, Four Horsemen, Evolution (TNA's version) and certainly the original LOD.

I miss matches with Eaton in them. Man... I miss wrestling.

Big Troubles
03-15-2006, 09:22 AM
Originally posted by Big Troubles
Andre "Test" Martin wrestled a dark (try out) match and beat Val Venis this week on Raw. He will more than likely be given another match on Smackdown, and then offered a contract.



This just in.....

Test wrestled as a face this week on Velocity taking on Sylvan in what was said to be a good squash match with Test winning.


Hmm.... He's as good as employed.

Mr Badguy
03-15-2006, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by Vinnie Velvet
The thing that TNA wants to do is to get some of the more 'higher' profile names that were involved in the classic Monday Night Wars between WCW and WWE.

The goal for TNA is to go head-to-head against RAW on Monday nights.

There still a long way from doing that -- but from their perspective--getting Sting and now Steiner, they think they're on their way.

Yes, but that`s all Steiner is now is a name.

His last WWE run was a joke, he could hardly move and botched move after move.

His "Royal rumble" match with HHH was one of the worst main events ever.

Also, will they let him do what he likes backstage like they did at WCW?

At least Vince would have kept him under control.

Sting still has some ability but Steiner is washed up.

amadeus
03-15-2006, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by Mr Badguy
Yes, but that`s all Steiner is now is a name.

His last WWE run was a joke, he could hardly move and botched move after move.

His "Royal rumble" match with HHH was one of the worst main events ever.

Also, will they let him do what he likes backstage like they did at WCW?

At least Vince would have kept him under control.

Sting still has some ability but Steiner is washed up.

I agree-Rick Steiner would have given a lot more credibility than Scott.

rustoffa
03-15-2006, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by amadeus
I agree-Rick Steiner would have given a lot more credibility than Scott.

Anyone remember the botched Tank Abbott angle in WCW? There was a "shoot" segment where Rick Steiner kinda fucked Abbott up.

Looked pretty legit.

Vinnie Velvet
03-16-2006, 09:11 AM
Originally posted by rustoffa
Anyone remember the botched Tank Abbott angle in WCW? There was a "shoot" segment where Rick Steiner kinda fucked Abbott up.

Looked pretty legit.

Yeah, I remember something like that going down.

Big Troubles
03-16-2006, 02:29 PM
Dave interviews the Game Triple H... "He's the game-ah, he's got a two dollar slut for a wife-ah." :D

Give er a listen. Great stuff!

http://podcast.923freefm.com/wfny/4566.mp3

Dave used to work out with Jesse Ventura in L.A. I always knew dave was a big fan, I just didn't know how big. He follows wrestling quite often and has been at a few shows and 4 PPV's!!! Fuckin weird?

Full Bug
03-16-2006, 03:15 PM
Some people know that back in the day Bad News Allen and Haku were pretty much known as the legit toughest guys in wrestling....
Anyway, here is a review of a Bad News Allen Shoot DVD, sounds like it would be good.....

DVD Review
Shoot Interview with Bad News Allen


First topic that was discussed was Bad News training for the Olympics back in the mid '60s. Allen said that if he could have made money in the world of judo he never would have gone into wrestling. Allen's coach at the time suggested wrestling as a revenue source, but Bad News laughed off the idea saying, "I don't want to do that phony baloney stuff." Eventually Allen decided that eating was more important than whether or not wrestling was legit, so he went to Japan to train. This was pretty interesting as Allen described the day in a life of a Japanese pro-wrestler and it was straight out of some Army boot camp. Allen earned the respect of the Japanese by being the first one into the dojo and the last one to leave. Because he was such a natural athlete and bumping came easy to him, Allen was also immediately used to stretch out the young kids to teach them wrestling isn't a game.

The biggest difference between the American wrestling scene and Japan? Allen feels it is the dishonesty in America as everything in Japan is based on the concept of respect. Well, I can imagine that would be pretty eye opening. Allen went into the politics in Japanese wrestling at the time while also discussing how well the heels were treated thanks the Japanese mafia having such an influence over the sport. Allen said that when he went back to Canada and saw how poorly Christ Benoit was being treated by the Hart family, he asked Antonio Inoki to take Benoit to Japan. We all know what happened from there.

Throughout the shoot, Bad News would give his thoughts on wrestlers who were around during the era he wrestled in, including putting over Andre the Giant as being one hell of a worker until injuries got the best of him. Bad News actually had a lot of good Andre stories including one incredible one which Andre
was making racist remarks while a bunch of wrestlers were on a bus. Seriously, picture this as Hulk Hogan was sitting behind Bad News on the bus and other guys there included Chavo Guererro Sr., Stand Hansen, and the American Dream Dusty Rhodes. Anyway, Allen yelled to Andre, "Giant! You watch your mouth!" Andre responded, "Bad News!" Allen turned around, "Yeah?"

"Go fuck yourself."


Bad News made the bus driver stop the bus and challenged Andre to step outside the bus and say that again to his face. Andre never came out. The next day a still-pissed Bad News confronted Andre at the hotel they were staying at and said that he didn't appreciate what the Giant said that he better not hear anything like it again. Andre apologized, but there was tension between the two men for years afterwards until the hatchet was finally buried before Andre passed away.

Allen compared Vince McMahon Sr. with his son and explained that when Vince Sr. shook your hand, he kept his work. Shockingly, Vince Jr. doesn't. It's not like we haven't heard that a thousand times, although the more I hear and read about Vince Sr., the more I think he must have been one hell of a guy, especially in this business. Bad News discussed going to Los Angeles and working for Gene Lebel while saying the Guererro family was nothing
but a bunch of "egos, egos, egos." Bad News said that while Eddie Guerreo turned out good, "his older three brothers were all jerks." Bad News gave his thoughts on a ton of guys around at that time including Bill Eadie (the Masked Superstar), Jim Duggan, Freddie Blassie and Dick Murdoch. Allen couldn't stand Dick Murdoch because he was such a racist. Allen needs to watch The Wrestler DVD to at least see one good side of Murdoch.

"In the dictionary under dysfunctional, you'll find their picture" is how Allen described the Hart family. Like Ric Flair, Allen said that "if you see one Bret Hart match, you've seen them all." Rob Feinstein told Bad News that Bret Hart said in his shoot that Bad News wouldn’t sell for Hart during their matches. Allen said that the reality was that if Bret didn't make a move appear to hit him, he wasn't going to sell it. Allen said that "everything Dynamite Kid said in the book was true." This was referring to the book Pure Dynamite, that was particulary scathing to several wrestlers, including Bret Hart. Allen went on to say that he and Bret Hart invented the ladder match while together in Stampede.

The Andre the Giant shit story: Oh man, another wonderful Andre story came when Bad News talked about a time that the Giant was sick, but also had been drinking heavily all day long. The two had a match and Andre threw Bad News into the corner while saying, "Big ass, boss." This meant a splash in the corner. Once Andre hit Bad News with the splash he involuntarily lost control of his bowels. Okay, that's gross. Bad News went immediately to the shower and was completely disgusted, although it didn't add any heat to their "feud" because he knew Andre was sick and it wasn't intentional.



Bad News went on to completely bury Mike Shaw (also known as Bastian Booger and Norman the Lunatic), saying that in Stampede Shaw was a total stooge for Stu Hart and that "If you kicked Stu in the nuts, you'd break Mike's nose." Allen said that in Stampede Chris Benoit was a dedicated worker and that everyone there was jealous of Benoit's talent. Allen also put over Dynamite Kid as being the best wrestler he ever saw. I have to admit, seeing Stampede
stuff on the new Bret Hart DVD set was all kinds of awesome.

"This guy's a total moron." Bad News on Lex Luger.

Owen Hart: At first Allen hated working with Owen, but Bad News said Owen smartened up after his second run with WWE and became a "really good guy." During Owen's first run, Allen said he was totally oblivious and told a story about how Owen would get immediately up and play to the crowd after taking Allen's finishing move, the Ghetto Blaster. As you can imagine, this did not make Allen happy at all.

"Another one who is crazy." Bad News on Cpl. Kirshner.

While discussing his WWE run in the '80s, Bad News talked about Vince McMahon Jr. telling Allen that he wanted to put the strap on Allen "but the office talked me out of it." 20 years later I think I can still see Bad News' eyes rolling at that one. Allen was asked about the rumor that Inoki offered Allen two million dollars to break Hogan's leg during a match. Bad News' answer reply was, "What?!"

"A mess." Bad News on Junkyard Dog.

Allen went into the drug scene that was going on in WWE during the '80s and talked about the various managers that were around at the time as well. Allen discussed the Ultimate Warrior, saying that Warrior hated wrestling despite making so much money off it. Allen talked about doing ten minute dark matches with Warrior before Warrior hit it big and that after the matches Warrior would be gasping for air while needing help to the back. It is interesting to note that even though Warrior and Vince McMahon would later sue each other over the rights to the name "Ultimate Warrior," Bad News had been using the name for years while in Canada. Unfortunately, that was back when wrestlers rarely trademarked anything. Allen also had some interesting stories with Randy "the Macho Man" Savage, including one that had Savage potato'ing Allen in the ring. Bad News responded with a stiff clothesline to Savage's neck that "almost killed him." Bad News described Savage as a very paranoid person, but the more I see and hear about the reality of wrestling, the more I think I would be paranoid as well.

Allen put over Big John Studd as a good guy in the business and said "without a doubt" that Haku was the toughest. Allen gave another
side to the story that Dynamite Kid talked about in his book concerning the time one of the Rougeau brothers sucker punched Dynamite. The Rougeau's were suspended for that hit and when they came back they shook the hand of everyone in the locker room. When they got to Allen he said "Get the fuck away from me." Allen also told a hilarious story of Adrian Adonis leaving a rental car on a train track that led to no more rental cars for any "Titan Sports" employees.

"Total asshole." Bad News on Big Van Vader.

Allen hated working without Roddy Piper and flat out called Hot Rod a racist. Bad News loved working with Jake "the Snake" Roberts, Allen's wife hated Jake and his gimmick. Bad News talked about the up and coming Harry Smith and said that Harry's biggest problem is that he hangs around Teddy Hart. Allen said he is eventually going to release his own book but has to edit it down first and his biggest regret is that he never got to see his kids grow up, which seems to be a common regret for people in the business.

Overall Thoughts: This was a fantastic TWO DISC shoot interview and my review only covers a fraction of everything that Allen went into. From the grueling training for the Olympic team, to working in Japan, Stampede, and WWE, to stuff that happened recently such as the Montreal Incident and the sale of WCW to McMahon, Allen has an opinion or story for everything. Bad News holds nothing back and I can't help but be amazed by his frank criticisms of many wrestlers over the past twenty plus years. Dave Meltzer constantly puts over what a great talker Bad News Allen is and after watching this shoot interview, I couldn’t agree more. Allen is very talkative and constantly steers the shoot into an interesting direction.

Big Troubles
03-16-2006, 03:32 PM
Bad News Allen never had to worry about trademarking his name because the WW(F) trademarked Bad News Brown, the name he made the most money off of. I met Bad News a few times in my city, when stampede rolled thru here and once when International Wrestling toured from Montreal, and Ive got to tell you, he is one tough SOB.
Everyone talks about Roddy Piper being the trend setter in the "tweener" phase of popular stars like The Rock and more prominently Steve Austin, but Bad News was the very first tweener I recall.

I also watched a shoot fight with Allen against a smaller judo guy, and all it took was a few stiff kicks to Allens legs and he was down for a ten count. His legit fighting days ended before they ever started.

But still one of the best intimidators in the biz!

Dan
03-17-2006, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by Big Troubles
Dave interviews the Game Triple H... "He's the game-ah, he's got a two dollar slut for a wife-ah." :D

Give er a listen. Great stuff!

http://podcast.923freefm.com/wfny/4566.mp3

Dave used to work out with Jesse Ventura in L.A. I always knew dave was a big fan, I just didn't know how big. He follows wrestling quite often and has been at a few shows and 4 PPV's!!! Fuckin weird?

It was a Great phone interview.Dave had some good questions to ask Triple H.

Big Troubles
03-17-2006, 05:23 PM
yeah I like the idea that he watches and even ATTENDED a few shows. Very cool. He understands wrestling too. he's not screaming" but it's fake!!!!" like so many others who "dont get it". Dave gets it. Very neat.

Dan
03-17-2006, 07:48 PM
Originally posted by Big Troubles
yeah I like the idea that he watches and even ATTENDED a few shows. Very cool. He understands wrestling too. he's not screaming" but it's fake!!!!" like so many others who "dont get it". Dave gets it. Very neat.

Agree with you on that B.T.

Dave's interview style was Fucking Tops.:)

Full Bug
03-19-2006, 09:27 AM
So who watched SNME last night? I thought the show was OK but nothing great....

amadeus
03-19-2006, 09:35 AM
Originally posted by Full Bug
So who watched SNME last night? I thought the show was OK but nothing great....

I agree......it was OK. I really thought putting the handicap match first was a great idea but the overall it wasn't a fantastic show.

Big Troubles
03-19-2006, 05:39 PM
it was alright. The women, except Trish and Victoria were horrible. I thought RVD could have wrestled Shelton for the IC in a double count out or DQ to set up a feud for after WME...

The screw job finish is tiresome. Holy fuck, how many times are they gonna pull a "Montreal Job" out of their ass? I mean really. Its only been done 9 times in WcW and WWE since 1997...

HHH was dead on last night. Perfect timing. Cena sucks balls as usual and I think I know why he's boo'd. Isn't the rapper gimmick already dated? I know Eminem is dated.

Booker T was hilarious. boogyman is fun to watch. Austin is boring....STILL....

"I woke up this morning and ordered 2 cases of beer and 1 egg..."
That is just so 1998 of him eh? JBL is a quiff. Funny, but a quiff nonetheless.

Edge is entertaining and Mick Foley is showing his age. I mean, could he not lose 20lbs for his match at Mania? Jesus. Same coat, same track pants. Sexy.

I was hoping for Cruiserweights too.... PUSH London, Spanky, Knoble, Kash to the moon Vince!!! Also call up CM Punk the day after WME and put him in a program with Michaels. pronto!!

:D

Anonymous
03-20-2006, 11:43 PM
Originally posted by Big Troubles
Cena sucks balls as usual and I think I know why he's boo'd. Isn't the rapper gimmick already dated? I know Eminem is dated.

Actually, I believe Cena is booed because he's a grate wrestler but ONLY when he WANTS! If he feels like it, he can go out there and deliver a grate match - however, if he doesn't feel like it, it'll be nothing but a sorry excuse for a wrestling match - and he'll still win.

That's making fun of people, in my opinion. Yeah, it's fake, but we like it when it LOOKS real. I don't wanna be treated like a mentally retarded - and that's how Cena treats people.

Fuck off, Cena. And McMahon, give the title to Triple H AGAIN, before you give it to someone else... after being held by Cena, Edge and Cena again, it needs some credibility bestowed upon it.

Cheers! :bottle:

Big Troubles
03-21-2006, 11:35 AM
i agree somewhat...Cena makes his matches look stupid. Picking up the Big Show in the FU...Well, the FU alone looks stupid. It's a fucking slam... Since when can you beat someone cleanly, with a slam??? The whole pumping up the sneaker, hat on sideways, bling bling, hand in front of face shit doesn't, never did, impress me. I hate Eminem and i hate Cena.

But you are right. He's not credible. He looks like a little boy. Nveer seen him with a 5 OClock shadow and Im guessing it's because he hasn't started shaving yet. That little fuck looks like he's in bed by 9pm too.

Time for him to drop the belt to H.

ULTRAMAN VH
03-21-2006, 09:05 PM
I agree, the Yo boy needs to lose the belt to Triple H. I hate that Rap shit.

rustoffa
03-21-2006, 09:28 PM
Originally posted by Big Troubles
i agree somewhat...Cena makes his matches look stupid. Picking up the Big Show in the FU...Well, the FU alone looks stupid. It's a fucking slam... Since when can you beat someone cleanly, with a slam??? The whole pumping up the sneaker, hat on sideways, bling bling, hand in front of face shit doesn't, never did, impress me. I hate Eminem and i hate Cena.

Time for him to drop the belt to H.

Isn't the FU actually the Death Valley Driver? And then the Hands of Stone ripoff?

Isn't the Stone Cold Stunner/Diamond Cutter actually the Whippersnapper? And then the Beer Drinking ripoff?

Something borrowed, something new....yadda-yadda.

FMW had a solution for all that shit. Just blow up the whole fucking ring...FINISHED!
:D

amadeus
03-21-2006, 09:44 PM
Cena's schtick is getting old and it is time for the biggest heel in the business to have the belt again. They need to give Cena a new idea because he just isn't cutting it now. The (c)rap stuff is so annoying and the 'thug' angle is about as interesting as watching paint dry!! I would like to see a HHH vs. HBK for the strap only because how it was always HBK in the spotlight with HHH as his 'right hand man'. Let HHH show him how far he has come , I think it could be a good match.

Big Troubles
03-22-2006, 08:50 AM
well HHH vs HBK has happened so many times too. It would be amazing if they DIDN'T have a good match.

Yeah Rus, the FU is the death valley driver, and yes that silly fist to the face thing is similar to the "hands of stone" by Garvin...(well more like what Hawk used to do more than what Ronnie used to do)

But at least they made their signature moves look "real". Name one person Cenas size that picked up Big Shows size and threw him around? See someone like Big Show in the 70's and 80's would win all the matches by c/o or dq. never would say Andre get pinned.

Diamon Cutter is a bit different than the Stunner.

I always liked the Heart Punch by either Stan Stasiak or Big John Studd. I also liked the claw by Da' Baron... :D The lariat by Hansen was cool. Leg drop by Brody. Top elbow by Savage and the way Bravo would execute his back breakers or side suplexes.

Full Bug
03-22-2006, 09:29 AM
Originally posted by Big Troubles
never would see Andre get pinned.

Thats not quite true, Warrior beat him all over the place during their feud, just saw a match the other day on WWE 24/7 where Warrior pinned Andre in less then a minute, made me cringe actually....:rolleyes:

Big Troubles
03-22-2006, 06:07 PM
Originally posted by Full Bug
Thats not quite true, Warrior beat him all over the place during their feud, just saw a match the other day on WWE 24/7 where Warrior pinned Andre in less then a minute, made me cringe actually....:rolleyes:

well with exception I suppose... They were pushing Warrior very hard in 89/90...

I was thinking 70's early 80's mostly.

Big Troubles
03-22-2006, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by Big Troubles
Andre "Test" Martin wrestled a dark (try out) match and beat Val Venis this week on Raw. He will more than likely be given another match on Smackdown, and then offered a contract.

The funny part? The last time I read anything about Test was from an interview he did in Nov of last year, regarding his release, Eddie and the drug policy.

http://www.sescoops.com/artman/publish/article_2070.shtml


I hate wrestlers who say one thing, and then totally turn around and be someone else.



UPDATE!!!!!


http://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.asp?id=17068&p=1


Test agrees to WWE contract. :rolleyes: Its good news, but seriously, after an interview that test gave, how can someone turn around and refute everything that was said?

Big Troubles
03-22-2006, 06:13 PM
Bug you have Rogers dont you? Farkin' hell....Im waiting for our cable co. to pick up 24/7 still. damn frustrating. Is the 24/7 on the tv the same as the 24/7 online????

rustoffa
03-22-2006, 10:32 PM
Originally posted by rustoffa
FMW had a solution for all that shit. Just blow up the whole fucking ring...FINISHED!
:D

Hayabusa Great Sasuke vs. Tetsuhiro Kuroda and Mr. Gannosuke Octagon Cage Explosion Time Bomb Death Match.

God bless Hayabusa!
:D

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Mr Badguy
03-23-2006, 07:38 AM
Here, I was watching the Bret Hart DVD and Roddy Piper says that when Hart beat him for the Intercontinental belt at Wrestlemania VIII, it was the first time he had been pinned in 17 years.

Is this true?

Full Bug
03-23-2006, 10:41 AM
Originally posted by Big Troubles
Bug you have Rogers dont you? Farkin' hell....Im waiting for our cable co. to pick up 24/7 still. damn frustrating. Is the 24/7 on the tv the same as the 24/7 online????
Yeah, I have Rogers, although the monthly cable bill aint cheap though, ah well....
Not sure if its the same, I havent ever checked out 24/7 online....
24/7 is great sometimes, sometimes not so great, like this month is featuring Rowdy Roddy Piper, I could do without that, his matches kinda bore me for some reason....

Full Bug
03-23-2006, 10:46 AM
Originally posted by Mr Badguy
Here, I was watching the Bret Hart DVD and Roddy Piper says that when Hart beat him for the Intercontinental belt at Wrestlemania VIII, it was the first time he had been pinned in 17 years.

Is this true?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that is true, I believe he talked about that in his book....

Big Troubles
03-23-2006, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by Full Bug
Yeah, I have Rogers, although the monthly cable bill aint cheap though, ah well....
Not sure if its the same, I havent ever checked out 24/7 online....
24/7 is great sometimes, sometimes not so great, like this month is featuring Rowdy Roddy Piper, I could do without that, his matches kinda bore me for some reason....


I was really interested in seeing if they play old AWA, Global, WWF MSG (80's & 90's stuff) or WCW 90's Tv shows....

$10 a month right? Online its $3 and it automatically rolls over, so you keep paying every 1st of every month until you stop payment.

we dont have rogers here, but I here my local is going to carry soon.

cant wait.

Fight Network is coming soon as well with old classic boxing/wrestling...

Full Bug
03-24-2006, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by Big Troubles
I was really interested in seeing if they play old AWA, Global, WWF MSG (80's & 90's stuff) or WCW 90's Tv shows....

$10 a month right? Online its $3 and it automatically rolls over, so you keep paying every 1st of every month until you stop payment.

Yeah, its 10.00 a month....They do play old WWF MSG shows (There is a 1990 show up now), as well as Raw and Nitro from the 90's, also lots of ECW, WWE PPV's, the odd WCW PPV, I havent really seen any AWA or Global shows, although I think they played some a few months ago, overall I would say for 10 bucks a month its worth it....

Big Troubles
03-24-2006, 10:13 AM
sounds like it's worth more than $10!!! The Roddy Piper special, I read somewhere, includes the infamous dog collar match with Valentine and a match from 1982 with Jake Roberts!

Anonymous
03-24-2006, 12:53 PM
'Tis a GRATE time to be a wrestling fan in Portugal! We're getting PPVs FREE! This shit is making so much money to the network that airs it they actually went to the extent of BUYING Pay per Views to air them as well... now, if only one could get the shows live instead of one month later, and Cena dropped the fuckin' belt already, it would be just about perfect, eh?

BT, is the 24/7 online worth the money they ask for?

Cheers! :bottle:

Full Bug
03-24-2006, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by Big Troubles
sounds like it's worth more than $10!!! The Roddy Piper special, I read somewhere, includes the infamous dog collar match with Valentine and a match from 1982 with Jake Roberts!
I just watched that Jake / Valentine match, was wild seeing Jake so young, I didnt even recognize him in his plain blue trunks, pretty funny....

Big Troubles
03-24-2006, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by Imapus Sylicker
'Tis a GRATE time to be a wrestling fan in Portugal! We're getting PPVs FREE! This shit is making so much money to the network that airs it they actually went to the extent of BUYING Pay per Views to air them as well... now, if only one could get the shows live instead of one month later, and Cena dropped the fuckin' belt already, it would be just about perfect, eh?

BT, is the 24/7 online worth the money they ask for?

Cheers! :bottle:

$3 a month. Absolutely. See, when you first sign up and give them $3 bucks, you instantly have acess to EVERY MATCH they have had, since starting WWE online.

check out the matches.

http://www.wwe.com/subscriptions/247online/

I bet there are over 1000 matches now. Every month on the first they add more matches. I want it on tv though, as staring at the comp for too long will result in some nasty headaches.

Big Troubles
03-24-2006, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by Full Bug
I just watched that Jake / Valentine match, was wild seeing Jake so young, I didnt even recognize him in his plain blue trunks, pretty funny....

when healthy, nobody could touch Jake in the ring. I miss his matches and wonder what he could have been like today if he stayed on course.

monkeythe
03-25-2006, 12:32 AM
Originally posted by Mr Badguy
Here, I was watching the Bret Hart DVD and Roddy Piper says that when Hart beat him for the Intercontinental belt at Wrestlemania VIII, it was the first time he had been pinned in 17 years.

Is this true?

No. He was pinned by Snuka in a strap match that was on Best of the WWF vol 3. It was one of the very few pinfall losses he had in the WWF

Full Bug
03-26-2006, 05:15 PM
Hitman has his day

Bret Hart will be inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame in Chicago next Saturday.


Paying tribute to the great ones. It's a time-honoured tradition in sports, media and just about any other entertainment medium you can think of.

But for Calgary's own Bret (The Hitman) Hart, arguably one of the greatest wrestlers to ever step foot in the ring, the tributes he deserved never came.

After a series of professional setbacks and personal tragedies -- including the infamous Montreal screw job in 1997 and the death of his brother Owen in a WWF ring in 1999 -- Hart's bitter real-life feud with WWE left his legacy in limbo.

"I felt my career had been locked up in a vault somewhere," Hart told the Sun in an exclusive one-on-one this week.

"It always bothered me that 25 years from now, most people would remember me more for the WWF's interpretation of my career than for what I really did. People would always hear those negative slants on me, how I was tough to get along with and all that crap."


After suffering a devastating stroke in 2004, Hart decided to call a ceasefire with WWE boss Vince McMahon.

"I carried around a lot of hard feelings until I had my stroke. Then, I just couldn't worry about that stuff anymore. All I could worry about was getting myself out of a wheelchair.

"Vince called me in my hospital bed and I told him I don't want to be forgotten for everything I did. He said he'd make sure I'd be remembered."

This Saturday in Chicago, McMahon will make good on his word.

Hart will finally be inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame and honoured as an all-time wrestling legend.

"I think a lot of it is a sign of good faith," Hart said. "I don't think either of us has ever really forgiven, but Vince and I have made peace to a certain extent."

While most fans support the decision, Hart hears the haters who begrudge him for accepting McMahon's invitation.

"No one is more tuned into that opinion than I am," Hart said.

"I know there are people that feel I sold out, but I don't see it that way. I feel I have a right to be remembered."

Besides, Hart may be accepting the honour on WWE soil, but no one can accuse him of doing it on anyone else's terms.

For starters, he doesn't want to appear at Wrestlemania the day after the inductions.

"I'm not trying to be difficult," Hart explained.

"I just wouldn't want anyone to think I have finally got in bed with them enough that I can accept what they did to me. At this point, I'm set to fly out of Chicago early in the morning, before Wrestlemania."

Hart is perfectly aware WWE has every intention of changing his mind on that decision, though.

"Oh, they're certainly going to try to sell me on Wrestlemania between now and then," he said with a laugh.

"They're going to sit me down and talk to me about all kinds of stuff. But I'm not planning on doing anything more than walk out in front of people at the Hall of Fame. That's my only promise."

Hart is also declining a paycheque for the appearance, and refusing to put his name on the dotted line.

"They've sent me a contract and I don't have any intention of signing it. I know what contracts mean to them. I had a contract and they screwed me over on it. Now they come back to me with a contract 10 years later and ask me to sign it?

"For what?"

Hart's final request pertains to the man who cheated him out of the WWF title all those years ago in Montreal, Shawn Michaels.

The Hall of Fame would be the first time the two have come face to face since that match -- but not if the Hitman has anything to do with it.

"I've basically told them that if I see Shawn, I'll get back in a cab and go straight to the airport. They'll have to get him to do my induction speech. I just feel that there's too much anger for me. Too combustible."

But for the most part, the ceremony is going to be a positive experience for the Hitman, a chance to end his WWE career on a happy note.

"I never did get to say goodbye," Hart said. "This will give me some closure. I don't carry around any bad blood anymore. I just want to enjoy my life. I have the whole second half of it ahead of me and I plan to make it just as interesting as the first."

Big Troubles
03-26-2006, 11:13 PM
I like his integrity, but dont ya think like- "man get over it already". Like when he says

"if I see Shawn, I'll get back in a cab and go straight to the airport. They'll have to get him to do my induction speech."

I think he would probably see Michaels there, because Michaels would like some closure as well. Maybe Shawn wants to face you to apologize? I think Bret likes to keep it all about "Bret" a little too much. That's what Vince meant years ago in that "Interview" with Jim Ross when he said and I quote:

Vince McMahon didn't screw Bret Hart. Bret Hart screwed Bret Hart

and now we get screwed. See, if Bret could learn to play ball and put the past behind him, he could say "good bye" the way we want him to. In the ring. Guest referee. In the end Bret takes out one by one : Shawn Michaels, shane, Gerald Brisco, Pat Patterson... everyone involved that night. And of course finally after knocking all them out he gets his hands on Vince and gives him a good beating. THAT, is how we want to see Bret Hart say good bye.

Vinnie Velvet
03-27-2006, 08:58 AM
Originally posted by Big Troubles
I like his integrity, but dont ya think like- "man get over it already". Like when he says

"if I see Shawn, I'll get back in a cab and go straight to the airport. They'll have to get him to do my induction speech."

I think he would probably see Michaels there, because Michaels would like some closure as well. Maybe Shawn wants to face you to apologize? I think Bret likes to keep it all about "Bret" a little too much. That's what Vince meant years ago in that "Interview" with Jim Ross when he said and I quote:

Vince McMahon didn't screw Bret Hart. Bret Hart screwed Bret Hart

and now we get screwed. See, if Bret could learn to play ball and put the past behind him, he could say "good bye" the way we want him to. In the ring. Guest referee. In the end Bret takes out one by one : Shawn Michaels, shane, Gerald Brisco, Pat Patterson... everyone involved that night. And of course finally after knocking all them out he gets his hands on Vince and gives him a good beating. THAT, is how we want to see Bret Hart say good bye.

If that happened, that would be the best Wrestlemania ever!

Of course, Bret won't do anything with the WWE, as far as getting involved in a storyline.

To him, that would make the 97 screwjob a work.

Not sure if people would see it that way. I think wrestling fans understand a wrestling program moreso now than ten years ago.

As for Shawn, he won't be at the Hall of Fame ceremony. I'd expect Triple H to be there, no doubt.

But even Bret seeing Hunter will get his blood boiling since he knows HHH was in on the double-cross as well.

VHdamaco
03-27-2006, 01:13 PM
just curious, but how was HHH in on the screw job? i hadn't heard that before...

Big Troubles
03-27-2006, 03:07 PM
H was in on it, as H and Michaels were friends on and off camera. In Brets "movie" you can see a visibly upset wife blasting H, "you knew Hunter and dont tell me you didn't"... Best part of the movie IMO. Someone giving H a blast of shit without WWE cameras rollin'. Priceless.

I still feel that Bret needs to get over this. he tells everyone he can in interviews that he doesn't want to rehash Montreal, that he wants everyone to remember him for something more... Well, Bret... If you cant get over it, how in the Hell can we? Sign the fuckin' contract, do the guest ref spot, beat the shit out of everyone and then have a nice farewell speech thanking the fans for waiting for his return and finally put a fuckin' nail in this proverbial coffin once and for all.

If he cant do a simple "job" at Wrestlemania and make the fans happy and surprised... Then fuck him. He deserves his misery because he may not have created all this b.s but he sure has control over it now.

Full Bug
03-27-2006, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by Big Troubles
H was in on it, as H and Michaels were friends on and off camera. In Brets "movie" you can see a visibly upset wife blasting H, "you knew Hunter and dont tell me you didn't"... Best part of the movie IMO. Someone giving H a blast of shit without WWE cameras rollin'. Priceless.

From what I hear, HHH was the one who came up with the whole idea, Shawn says this in his book....

Full Bug
03-27-2006, 04:01 PM
You can find the whole Montreal story here....
http://www.100megsfree4.com/wiawrestling/pages/wwf/wwemontreal.htm

Big Troubles
03-27-2006, 08:39 PM
that's an informative site. I use it to check out the archives of Raw and Nitro.

Fairwrning
03-27-2006, 09:27 PM
Great read....thanks bug

Fairwrning
03-27-2006, 10:40 PM
William " Refrigerator" Perry inducted into the wwe hall of fame??!!

Full Bug
03-27-2006, 11:06 PM
Originally posted by Fairwrning
Great read....thanks bug
Hows it going FW? I havent seen you on PokerStars in awhile, although I havent been playing all that much lately....

POJO_Risin
03-27-2006, 11:11 PM
Is it me...or would you still feel a bit of animosity not about the freakin' screw job...

but about your brother falling from the rafters to his death...

just a thought...

rustoffa
03-27-2006, 11:12 PM
Looks like Vinnie Mac is on the roids!

POJO_Risin
03-27-2006, 11:12 PM
An interesting tidbit...

I haven't watched RAW in 3 years...over 3 years...

Fairwrning
03-27-2006, 11:14 PM
Got kicked off of pokerstars when i sent a letter saying their tables were rigged..lmao..
Been at Ultimate bet....
And.Yeah..Vince is definately on the juice...that guy is fuckin huge!!!

rustoffa
03-27-2006, 11:15 PM
Originally posted by Fairwrning
William " Refrigerator" Perry inducted into the wwe hall of fame??!!

Where the fuck is Fralic?
:D

Full Bug
03-27-2006, 11:24 PM
Originally posted by POJO_Risin
Is it me...or would you still feel a bit of animosity not about the freakin' screw job...
but about your brother falling from the rafters to his death...

Hell yeah, that whole thing should have never happened....
I still wonder what might have happened had Owen fell a foot or two over and impaled himself on the ringpost, that would have givin the kiddies and a few adults nightmares for years, especially if it had been shown on TV....

Full Bug
03-27-2006, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by Fairwrning
Got kicked off of pokerstars when i sent a letter saying their tables were rigged..lmao..

So you dont think that site is on the up and up? Good thing I dont play for real money over there.....

Full Bug
03-27-2006, 11:28 PM
Originally posted by Fairwrning
William " Refrigerator" Perry inducted into the wwe hall of fame??!!
Hey, they inducted Pete Rose, so why not?:rolleyes:
I remember that match he was in, he sucked....

rustoffa
03-27-2006, 11:30 PM
Originally posted by POJO_Risin
Is it me...or would you still feel a bit of animosity not about the freakin' screw job...

but about your brother falling from the rafters to his death...

just a thought...

I doubt all of Canada can cuntain Bret's ego. Go back and read some of his commentary in the Calgary Sun right after the fact.

Chris Jericho cut one of the all-time great heel promos' in wrasslin' history about the same time those mind numbing articles' were numbing peoples' minds.

That promo was cut in Canada, and he was trained in the dungeon.

Big Troubles
03-28-2006, 08:42 AM
you are right Pojo. If Bret should be pissed at all, it should be about his brothers death, not losing a fake title belt the last night you work for a wrestling co. I think Bret should channel is anger a bit better.

Fairwrning
03-28-2006, 06:11 PM
Originally posted by Full Bug
So you dont think that site is on the up and up? Good thing I dont play for real money over there.....

I was just pissed off at the time...I dont believe any poker site will attempt to intentionally screw a player over..BUT...if you are playing at a table..not a tourney, but just an open table, the site makes money on the "rake"..therefore it is always in the best interest of the site to have a big pot in every hand...the "rake" is obviously bigger with a bigger pot in the middle...
I have seen way too many hands that 2 players are fed great cards and the board will flop shit that makes those players bet..example..
I was dealt AA...the player directly after me ended up having KK..the board flopped all low cards..so naturally we both are betting like crazy driving up the pot and the sites "rake"..lo and behold..a K comes on the river and I lose my ass...and the site has improved its "rake"...

Full Bug
03-28-2006, 06:21 PM
Jim Ross will be calling the Raw matches with Jerry Lawler and Jonathan Coachman at Wrestlemania in a decision finalized last night. Michael Cole and Tazz will do the Smackdown matches. Ross was in Omaha for Raw for the first time at a Raw event since his televised firing.

Good move, but you gotta feel a little bad for Joey Styles, he is doing his best but just cant compete with Ross.....

Full Bug
03-28-2006, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by Fairwrning
I was just pissed off at the time...I dont believe any poker site will attempt to intentionally screw a player over..BUT...if you are playing at a table..not a tourney, but just an open table, the site makes money on the "rake"..therefore it is always in the best interest of the site to have a big pot in every hand...the "rake" is obviously bigger with a bigger pot in the middle...
I have seen way too many hands that 2 players are fed great cards and the board will flop shit that makes those players bet..example..
I was dealt AA...the player directly after me ended up having KK..the board flopped all low cards..so naturally we both are betting like crazy driving up the pot and the sites "rake"..lo and behold..a K comes on the river and I lose my ass...and the site has improved its "rake"...
Thats interesting, makes you wonder....

Fairwrning
03-28-2006, 06:27 PM
yes it does..that shit just doesn't happen as often in a home game...

Full Bug
03-29-2006, 11:21 AM
Joey Styles Talks About Not Calling WrestleMania

From WWE.com:

WWE.com caught up with Joey Styles to get his take on the WrestleMania announcing team from RAW and much more:

WWE.com: When WWE.com first spoke to you regarding your hiring, you said your biggest goal was to announce at WrestleMania. Now that WWE has chosen to go with Jim Ross at WrestleMania, how does that make you feel?

Joey Styles: My initial response when I was told on Monday when I arrived at the arena in Omaha was disappointment. That lasted about 30 minutes. I was told in person and I do appreciate that. Probably 30 minutes after that, my ego took over and I felt angry for about an hour. And then after real introspection, I realized I’m not where they need me to be in terms of what the position is. And I think what readers of WWE.com and fans watching at home don’t understand is what the position is: WWE doesn’t have play-by-play men. They may call it a play-by-play man, but what that position really is, is a “lead storyteller.” It’s a completely different animal than what I was trying to do.

The ironic part about this is that I was taught how to announce the play-by-play by Paul Heyman, who was taught by Jim Ross. And frankly, WWE has brought in Jim Ross himself, who is the best-ever at doing this, to train me so I can become as good as he is. And he told me that when he started with WWE, he had 20 years of play-by-play under his belt, and he had to be deprogrammed and start over again. He came in and called WrestleMania IX and then maybe another pay-per-view after that and then disappeared from television. He was calling, I believe, internationally syndicated TV working on not calling each and every move from a collar-and-elbow tie-up to a waist lock all the way through the end of the match and instead learning how to weave and tell the story. And I’m pretty much in the same situation he was in.

What I’m thankful for is that Jim has agreed to come in and in his words, “pass the torch,” so that I can learn to do what he does, hopefully, as well as he does, between him coaching me and me working as hard as I possibly can. I can tell you that in preparing for RAW this past Monday, I spent five hours with J.R. going over notes and how to set the premise of each match and the story of each segment and how it would lead into WrestleMania. And I learned more in five hours with Jim Ross than I have in my first five months here at WWE. And it was amazing.

And I have to say that WWE has been great with me. There have been times where I know Vince was extremely frustrated with what I was doing because he was expressing that frustration afterward. And despite what people may have read everywhere, he was never nasty with me or condescending or screaming or yelling. He was always very professional with me. But I could tell Kevin Dunn (Executive Producer) was frustrated because he couldn’t really show me how to build that bridge to storytelling and I didn’t know on my own how to do it. So, I don’t know how often J.R. is going to be available actually at the RAW events. And again some fans — the Internet fans — a lot of them think they know what “producing the announcers” means; they think it means feeding us every line, and that’s not the case. What a good producer does —and I thought J.R. did a wonderful job last night — probably the best job I’ve ever seen in someone producing me in terms of storytelling. He may have only given me five lines in a five-segment match. That’s it. But it was the right line at the right time. And it’s a very difficult balance to weave that story from the beginning of the segment to the end of the segment. And now with J.R., helping me, I see no reason that I’m not going to get there. I mean, with the best-ever teaching me and the fact that I’m going to work as tirelessly as possible to eventually be as good as he is — and I will not stop until I am, period.

There’s no “maybe” for me. There’s no “I hope I can be as good as J.R. is.” I don’t attack any goal that way. It’s going to be: “I’m going to be as good as J.R. is.” I don’t know how long that is going to take, but with him helping me, there’s no reason why I shouldn’t get there. Kevin Dunn told me that they are leaving me in the RAW lead announcer position because the only way I’m going to learn — the only way you can learn — is to do that show week after week.

I never understood why WWE worked so hard to not hire wrestling announcers and now I do. WWE announcers are storytellers and professional announcers need to be taught storytelling. The plus to hiring a professional wrestling announcer is we already have a passion for wrestling and we will learn the storytelling because there is nothing else in the world we’d rather do. I feel like I need to be de-programmed. When I sit at ringside it’s hard to not call every move. I feel like an addict getting the shakes with an uncontrollable urge to call the moves.

The other thing I want to do because of my relocation back to Connecticut, which will be complete the week after WrestleMania, is I’d actually like to — if they would let me — be the lead announcer on HEAT. I would actually like to come in and do lead announcing on HEAT every week with Coach and Grisham, who are currently the announcers, as color men for me, so I can continually practice the storyline premise of each match — even if we have to make up a story for each one of those matches because there’s not always a story for the HEAT match, and practice the give-and-take. That’s the problem with something like this; it’s not like learning how to shoot free throws in basketball. You can go in your driveway and practice all day. There’s no way to do this but to continually actually do it and practice it. And I can’t very well set up wrestling matches in my house and clone King and Coach to sit there and do it with me — not to mention who would do that to the world? Who would want to unleash two more of those men on the world?

So, as I said, the big picture of all of this is, I have what should be hopefully now with J.R. guiding me, not a difficult transition or lengthy transition to complete. Certainly, 12 months from now when it’s time for WrestleMania 23, I fully expect that I will by then have made the transition to quarterback the RAW announce team for WrestleMania 23. But, you know, as I said, initially like anybody else, I was very disappointed because calling WrestleMania has always been my lifelong dream. After that, my ego took over, so I was angry. But they’re sticking with me until I get this — and I’m going to get this — that I’ll call many, many WrestleManias in the future.

Vinnie Velvet
03-29-2006, 11:39 AM
Interesting interview.

Joey Styles has the potential to be a great announcer in the WWE, but he was right, announcers don't do "play-by-play' in sports entertainment.

They need to lead the storyline.

Having said that, its great that JR is back at the announce table for Wrestlemania.

Vinnie Velvet
03-29-2006, 12:02 PM
Anybody see Tony Atlas these days??

The guy is still huge and is a professional trainer.

Full Bug
03-29-2006, 12:46 PM
Originally posted by Vinnie Velvet
Anybody see Tony Atlas these days??

The guy is still huge and is a professional trainer.
No, funny you asked that, on Monday when I heard he was going to be there I wondered to myself how he looks these days....

Full Bug
03-29-2006, 12:48 PM
May as well post an interview with JR that kinda goes with the Joey Styles interview.....

Jim Ross reacts to getting the nod for WrestleMania
March 28, 2006


After it was officially announced that Jim Ross would be calling the action for RAW at WrestleMania 22, WWE.com caught up J.R. to get his reaction to his new assignment, Saturday Night's Main Event, the Hall of Fame and much more.

WWE.com: Before getting into your role at WrestleMania, tell us a little bit about how it felt to be back at the announcers’ booth for Saturday Night’s Main Event?
Jim Ross: It was an exciting time for me. Ironically, though, it was five months to the day that I had my colon surgery. So it was kind of a milestone in that regard. And it was fun. I’ve said it time and again, if I could only do one thing in this business it would be live wrestling play by play. Of all the jobs I had, that’s always been the most fun, it’s really what I enjoy doing the most.

I certainly had some pre-game jitters, to say the least. I actually get them more often than not, even at this stage in the game. I didn’t want to let the team down. And I didn’t want to do a disservice to the wrestlers. But I feel like we did a solid job and it was really fun. It was really cathartic to get back and be at ringside in front of a sold-out crowd.

But there was also a lot of responsibility involved in Saturday Night’s Main Event (the WrestleMania promotion, the relationship with NBC, the entertainment value to the viewer, supporting the hard work of the wrestlers…), and to be able to come out of the bullpen and go back to work was great. And for a broadcaster, there’s nothing quite like doing a live wrestling show. I’ve done NFL football and XFL football. I did plenty of basketball and baseball. But all those things are structured to give you the chance to catch your breath and reset the stage. But our business is so fast paced – some might even say that it’s too fast paced at times – that you can fall behind and get thrown under the bus real quick if you let it get away from you.

Of course, The King and I have a long-standing personal and professional relationship, which helped. I haven’t worked much with Tazz, but I can tell you that every time I do work with him, I’ve really enjoyed it. I enjoy his commentary and his ability to analyze a match. He does a real good job and he’s gotten even better over the last few years. I always had fun working with him. I think the first time we worked together was at the Royal Rumble a few years ago. That’s a tough match to do because it’s a solid hour and at every interval, a new guy comes and it starts a new story. That then adds a new chapter to the story you’re telling.


I was also cautiously optimistic about the Saturday Night’s Main Event opportunity. I was nervous that I was not going to carry my end of the load. I didn’t want to drag King and Tazz down with me. I was really more concerned about messing them up than about how I was going to be perceived. So there was a lot of things going on in my mind. But when I got to the building in the afternoon, everything started feeling real natural. The talent was very happy to see me, and I them. It was like I hadn’t been away. So that made me a lot more comfortable. So in one hand you have great support and in the other hand you know that the expectations by everything involved are lofty. So it was a challenging night, but I like challenges. Hopefully, everybody was happy with the effort. Doing that show will really help me down the road with my next assignment.

WWE.com: Can you tell the fans about your next assignment, which will be WrestleMania 22, and how you learned that you would be calling the action?
J.R.: I was told Monday afternoon that the decision was made that I would call the RAW matches at WrestleMania. It came as a big surprise. The working plan was that I would emcee the Hall of Fame ceremony and probably do one match at WrestleMania. I figured that I would do the Mr. McMahon vs. Shawn Michaels No Holds Barred Match. I felt like that would be a good fit, considering both HBK and I have joined Mr. McMahon’s exclusive club. So I really thought that was how my weekend was going to play out. But all that changed Monday. I felt excited and exhilarated. But at the same time, I felt some apprehension regarding Joey Styles’ status. I know, like myself, he grew up as a wrestling fan and he’s always wanted to work in WWE and I felt badly for him. At the same time, I won’t lie, I was very excited to get the assignment. And I look forward to it tremendously.

WWE.com: In Joey’s first WWE interview upon getting hired, he said it was his lifelong dream to call a WrestleMania. That is obviously not going to happen at WrestleMania 22, but do you think he will get the opportunity to call a WrestleMania at some point down the road?
J.R.: Absolutely. He’s got a lot of WrestleManias ahead of him, as far as I’m concerned. I’m sure that as time goes on, you’ll see me doing fewer events like WrestleMania. And as far as Joey is concerned, at his age and with him just getting his journey started in WWE, I would be extremely surprised if he doesn’t call many WrestleManias.

Of course, I’d like to be a part of WrestleMania in some role, as long as I’m productive. But that doesn’t mean that I have to call all of one brand’s matches or do the whole show as I’ve done in the past. If in the future I did a match at WrestleMania, it would be a great honor just to be part of the event.

WWE.com: In a recent interview with WWE.com, Joey said that he learned more in the five hours he recently worked with J.R. than he did over the past five months combined. How does that make you feel?
J.R.: I’m pleased that I can help him some. I had a lot of real good influences in my broadcasting career. And part of the responsibility of those of us who are considered veterans, whether you’re an announcer, or a wrestler, or a referee or an agent or any other viable role within the structure of WWE, is to share what we have learned and to help teach others. So I am happy that I was able to help him some, and feel very honored that he would say something along those lines. I’m glad he was able to retain some of the things that we’ve discussed, including his approach to the WWE product vis-à-vis the ECW product. You have to differentiate one product from the other, based on the management of each company. In ECW, Paul Heyman had Joey announcing in Heyman’s vision. And he did a hell of a good job and he’ll always be known as the voice of ECW. And now he works for WWE and it’s a different presentation with different requirements. It’s kind of like the ice-cream formula. ECW might have been chocolate and WWE might be strawberry. They’re different flavors, but they’re both still ice cream. And if we agree that we both like ice cream, then we are able to tell the difference in the taste in a blind taste test. They’re just a little different, but they’re still ice cream.

WWE.com: What types of things did you talk to Joey about?
J.R.: We just talked about fundamental things and some philosophical issues. When I came to WWE in 1993, I came from WCW and was the lead play-by-play guy on all their major pay-per-views, live TBS Clash of the Champions and flagship Saturday night TBS show. And when I came in to WWE, it wasn’t with open arms from the majority of people. I was perceived as the enemy. I was a southerner who worked for WCW. At the time, I was not a storytelling broadcaster as much as I was a play-by-play guy and that was not something that WWE relished. They would rather have more of a storyteller that can document the emotion, rather than have somebody describe the match hold by hold and maneuver by maneuver.

So I had 20 years of experience doing it one way. And as time went on and WWE evolved, the demand for play-by-play had lessened. Now Joey is being asked to do something different than his play-by-play background, which he is very good at. He’s just going to have to tweak his style a little bit. And there's no way that it’s not going to happen. The only reason why that would not happen is because his ego would not allow him to make a change – something I’ve battled – or he doesn’t have the intellect to overcome the two styles of the two companies he’s worked for. And he’s certainly not lacking in intellect. He’s very bright. He’s a student of the business and a lifelong fan, much like myself. So I hope he’s not as stubborn as I was. I don’t think he will be, and I’m sure he’ll have plenty of WrestleMania moments of his own.

WWE.com: So it sounds like the path Joey is taking is very similar to the one you took when you started with WWE.
J.R.: As far as being play-by-play men, yes. Like Joey, I had to tweak my style to be more of a storyteller. And when I got here in 1993, my goal was also to work a WrestleMania. I was only on the payroll for about a month when it was decided that I would make my debut at WrestleMania. There’s a lot of pressure on you when it’s decided that your first assignment is the biggest show of the year… and dressed in a toga, no less. It was all different for me – I was working with a new producer, new talent, I was outdoors at Caesars Palace, I never worked with Savage and Heenan before… So it was a little scary the first go around. But we got through it.

Hopefully, we all have the same goal. If anybody in WWE that is involved in the production doesn’t have the goal to be a vital part of WrestleMania they really need to think about looking somewhere else for work. WrestleMania is the Super Bowl. It’s the World Series. It’s the culmination of what we all work toward, regardless of our role in the company. And the same goes for a wrestler. If a wrestler doesn’t wasn’t to be the top guy on the roster, then he should think about changing vocations.

But I certainly understand Joey’s disappointment. I sat home for WrestleMania X. I was living in Connecticut and wasn’t even brought to Madison Square Garden in New York City for the show, and I was less than one hour away. And that was a great WrestleMania, which featured one of the greatest WrestleMania matches – Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart. That’s a match I would have loved to call. But not only did I not call the match, I wasn’t even in the building. I sat home and bought it on pay-per-view. So I understand the disappointment and how he feels. And I have the utmost respect for him.

WWE.com: How does this return to the WrestleMania booth compare to your return to at WrestleMania XV after battling Bell’s palsy?
J.R.: I was really apprehensive about WrestleMania XV. I think both of the guys that were in the main event that night independently went to Mr. McMahon and requested I do their match. I don’t think it was necessarily a knock on Michael Cole, who was doing the play-by-play at that time. It was a personal compliment to me because I was in a position to help facilitate them by bringing them to the WWE roster. By no means am I saying I am responsible for their success, because once you throw them the ball, they have to run with it. And they both did. In hindsight, you could say ‘anybody could hire those guys.’ But at that time, you had Austin who was pigeon holed as a black-boot wearing, non-marketable journeyman wrestler. I saw an entirely different animal when I looked at him. Then you had Rock who was an unknown commodity as far as wrestling goes, even though we knew his amazing heritage. He came out of the CFL. He was bright and articulate and had a college degree. I didn’t see any gamble there. But you never know until you get them on the road for a few weeks and see how they respond to its grueling challenges. But as for the return at WrestleMania XV, I think it was a personal thing for them. Emotionally, I don’t think I was ready. I was very self conscious about the way that I looked. The Bell’s palsy had not healed. I remember holding my face up while I was sitting at the table so that I could annunciate well enough that the fans could understand me. I knew that I would have passion that night because it was very emotional for me because it was WrestleMania and it was two guys that I had enormous respect for in Rock and Austin. But I knew I wasn’t at 100 percent. And it was a tough challenge, but we got through it.

This WrestleMania is different. I still have the residual effects of Bell’s palsy. I just live with it. I don’t fixate on it. I don’t worry about it. It is what it is. I still have issues. The paralysis is still around my mouth. It’s just going to be that way. Maybe someday, somebody is going to invent some medication or a treatment that’s going to regenerate those nerves. Who knows? But that’s not something I worry about. I just live with it. It’s a part of what I have become. Outside of that, I haven’t felt physically better in years. Hopefully my pipes will hold up during the show. So from those two things, it’s a whole lot different. But I’ll still be nervous and jittery and I’ll still want to over deliver because it’s WrestleMania.

WWE.com: Which match are you most looking forward to calling at WrestleMania?
J.R.: I go back to what I said earlier – if you’re in WWE and don’t want to be the top guy on the roster, you’re in the wrong business. The match for RAW that I’m going to be most interested in is for the WWE Championship. There’s other matches I have a keen interest in, including Mr. McMahon vs. Shawn Michaels, which I have a strong personal attachment to. But I’m not a RAW vs. SmackDown guy. I’m not going to go on the air and knock SmackDown. I’m a fan of SmackDown. I watch it every Friday night. But the match that I feel is the most important of the matches that I am going to call is for the WWE Championship, Triple H vs. John Cena.

WWE.com: Do you anticipate any other memorable matches on the card?
J.R.: I’m really anxious to see Michaels vs. Mr. McMahon, and how it unfolds. I’m also a big Ric Flair aficionado. We’ve been friends for more than 20 years. We’ve gone though our marital woes together, we had our share of cocktails together and traveled many miles. I’m very anxious to see how he’s going to fare in the Money in the Bank Ladder Match because it’s certainly not his style. You know, there’s an art to surviving those darn things. Flair will not be in his element in this one. It’s not what he’ll be remembered for. And it’s not his legacy, unless, of course, he wins on Sunday. If he wins, he’ll be put in line for something that he truly believes he is up to and that is having another run as the champion. It’s not wrestle-speak, it’s not hyperbole, it’s not a marketing ploy, he truly believes in his heart that he has one more run left in him. For me personally, with all due respect to the other five guys in the match, the story of that match is ‘can Ric Flair do it?’

The other match that intrigues me is the Mick Foley vs. Edge match. I thought Edge was as hot as anybody on either roster back in January. He was about to embark on some real great moments and I think that he is a step away from being able to get right back to that level that we all experienced after he won the championship. The other part of the equation is the Mick Foley factor. I knew Mick in WCW, and when I got the job in charge of talent for WWE, Mick was a tough sell to upper management because he didn’t have "the look" that the company often looked for. But sometimes you have to look past those things to the intangibles. And that’s what you had to do with Mick. You can’t judge that book by its cover, no pun intended, referring to a best-selling author. But it wasn’t like he was Haystacks Calhoun or anybody.

I saw enough of his work, both in person and on tape, to know that this guy was special. So it brings up the question in my mind – can Mick Foley regenerate the intangibles that made him a true hardcore legend? Can he conjure up that feel for aggression and violence one more time? I don’t have the answer to that. The only person that can answer that is Mick Foley, and the only time he’ll be able to truly answer that is when the match is over on Sunday.

The bad side of the equation for those who are fans and friends of Mick Foley, as I am, is that if he’s not at his best, not only will he be humiliated mentally, he will be humiliated physically as well. And that will be a hard pill to swallow. I hope for his sake that he can do it one more time the way he wants to do it. I’m not being pessimistic, but it’s going to take a phenomenal effort on his behalf to rise to the occasion. Edge is younger, he’s carrying less body fat and he’s in better condition. He may even be hungrier. A win over Mick Foley in a hardcore match at WrestleMania puts Edge right back in the main event picture.

WWE.com: What will be your role at Saturday’s Hall of Fame ceremony?
J.R.: I’m a fan. I’ll be sitting in the audience with my wife enjoying the evening. I know that there will be some emotional moments for me personally and I know that there will be some tears and laughs, but I’m really looking forward to it. In general, the Hall of Fame is one of my favorite events. I believe that in our business, we don’t pay homage to our predecessors often enough. You can’t tell where you’re going if you don’t know where you’ve been, as the old cliché goes. And I think that our young guys need to pay more attention to where we’ve been and the people that have blazed the trails. All of those people were building blocks in the foundation of our business. I hope all the young people pay attention. I’m really looking forward to that night almost as much as I am looking forward to broadcasting WrestleMania 22.

WWE.com: Is there one particular induction that you are looking forward to seeing most this Saturday night?
J.R.: The most emotional to me will be Eddie Guerrero’s induction, because of the circumstances. I was very close to Eddie. Those that have read his book know the trial and tribulations that we’ve had. It was tough love at times, but we had a wonderfully warm relationship over the past several years. There was never a cross word. But when he was abusing drugs and alcohol, there was plenty of confrontation, which ultimately pointed out the fact that we couldn’t do business with him if he didn’t change. And I think that his love for the fans and wrestling motivated him to change everything. He got his family back together. He became a better husband and father and brother and uncle once he got his demons under control. So that will be the most emotional because it’s so fresh.

Then, of course, Bret Hart going in will also be emotional for me. I have enormous respect for Bret Hart as a wrestler and as a man. I also can’t look at Bret and not think of Owen. There’s hardly a day that goes by that I don’t think of Owen in some capacity. But I have no idea what Bret will be talking about at the Hall of Fame. I’m anxious to hear his remarks about being inducted, but whether he brings Owen up or not, I’m going to be thinking about him.

And that’s not to take away from the others that are going in. Sensational Sherri was certainly ahead of her time. I have great respect for Jack Lanza. The Blackjack team was outstanding. And Bobby Heenan will add some humor, which should be fun. Verne Gagne, my god, has had so many contributions from amateur wresting to becoming a national star to promoting AWA.

It will be a phenomenal DVD to get when it’s done. That will go into my limited collection of items I like to go back to and look at every now and then. Selfishly, I’m a little remise that I’m not the emcee, but I’m really happy for Jerry.

WWE.com: When the Hall of Fame is over, and WrestleMania comes to an end, when can WWE fans expect to see you again?
J.R.: The next thing on my schedule is the Saturday Night’s Main Event in July. But our business is always changing. If you had talked to me last week at this time, I would have said I was doing the Hall of Fame and just one match at WrestleMania. And now one week later, I’m doing all the RAW matches at WrestleMania and not doing the Hall of Fame. So things can change, but as best I can forecast, the next time I’ll be on anything mainstream will be Saturday Night’s Main Event from Dallas.

On top of all that, we're getting our barbeque project started hear in Oklahoma. We’re going to have our new Web site up soon, where people can buy barbeque and merchandise and learn a little bit about what we’re doing. So I’m not on vacation during the week, I’m still working. I’m just not there on Monday nights. And contrary to some reports, I have no plans of being there on Monday nights. Nobody has ever had a discussion with me about starting back on RAW. I read all the time on the Internet that I’m going back to RAW. That’s news to me. In fact, I like my schedule now. I get to spend more time with my family and my two grandchildren. I kind of like not having to go to the airport every week. If called on, would I serve? Of course, I’m a team player. But nobody's said anything to me about it.

WWE.com: Thank you for the time, J.R. Do you have any last words before WrestleMania?
J.R.: As I said before, I’m tremendously looking forward to this weekend. The Hall of Fame is going to be amazing. And I can’t wait to walk through the curtain Sunday night and hear Oklahoma’s theme song play. I can’t describe the feeling. I could very easily be sitting out there in the audience. If I wasn’t in the business, I would still be a fan. In fact, I’d probably be trying to scrounge WrestleMania tickets from somebody. And by the way, I don’t have any WrestleMania tickets to give away, in case my relatives are reading this.

Big Troubles
03-29-2006, 05:56 PM
I was looking forward to Styles calling his first WME. What a shame. Nothing against Ross, but Styles is fresh, young and talks outta both sides of his mouth. :D Ok, that was low.

I think too many ppl have shit on Joey too early. The guy is a grate play by play man, not a good story teller? That's fine with me. Im a wrestling fan- Not a soap opera fan. Ross always used to say that the wrestlers in the ring are supposed to tell the story. So why does Vince need an announcer telling a story then?

I want to hear "lock up, collar and elbow.... Irish whip into the corner, King, that's got to hurt the small of the back...Out of the corner comes "so and so", reverse atomic drop, sharp onto the tail bone.... That'll take a few seconds off your game plan".... That's what Joey wanted to do... Instead they want to talk about the rivalry more...The stories... Oh yay, stories... :rolleyes:

Fairwrning
03-29-2006, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by Big Troubles
I was looking forward to Styles calling his first WME. What a shame. Nothing against Ross, but Styles is fresh, young and talks outta both sides of his mouth. :D Ok, that was low.



BURN!!! ouch...that was low man...:lol:

Full Bug
03-31-2006, 12:09 AM
Anyone like Mickie James? I really like her character playing the nutjob, and she is really hot to boot, check out these nude pics, I think I love her....;) :cool:
http://diamonddavidleeroth.com/forums/showthread.php?p=232315#post232315

Mr Badguy
03-31-2006, 07:09 AM
WOOF!

What a dirty whore.

I`m off for a wank.

Big Troubles
04-01-2006, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by Full Bug
Anyone like Mickie James? I really like her character playing the nutjob, and she is really hot to boot, check out these nude pics, I think I love her....;) :cool:
http://diamonddavidleeroth.com/forums/showthread.php?p=232315#post232315

fuck those look real! they can't be? she did porn before wrestling? lol neato

rustoffa
04-01-2006, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by Full Bug
WWE.com: Which match are you most looking forward to calling at WrestleMania?
the match that I feel is the most important of the matches that I am going to call is for the WWE Championship, Triple H vs. John Cena.



Originally posted by Full Bug
WWE.com: Do you anticipate any other memorable matches on the card?
J.R.: I’m also a big Ric Flair aficionado. We’ve been friends for more than 20 years. We’ve gone though our marital woes together, we had our share of cocktails together and traveled many miles. I’m very anxious to see how he’s going to fare in the Money in the Bank Ladder Match because it’s certainly not his style. You know, there’s an art to surviving those darn things. Flair will not be in his element in this one. It’s not what he’ll be remembered for. And it’s not his legacy, unless, of course, he wins on Sunday. If he wins, he’ll be put in line for something that he truly believes he is up to and that is having another run as the champion. It’s not wrestle-speak, it’s not hyperbole, it’s not a marketing ploy, he truly believes in his heart that he has one more run left in him. For me personally, with all due respect to the other five guys in the match, the story of that match is ‘can Ric Flair do it?’


Remember HHH beating the fuck out of Flair awhile back? He was bitching the whole time about how disgusted he was. "It makes me sick to see you like this"....etc.

HHH's respect for Flair is no secret....he's a fucking mark for the guy.

"IF" HHH and Flair both emerge victorious tomorrow night, would it set up a title-drop of epic proportions?

We'll see..........

POJO_Risin
04-02-2006, 11:56 PM
Okay...the roundup...

in the hohum pillowfight match...

Torrie over Candice Michelle...

The Boogeyman beat Booker T...

The Big Show and Kane rolled over Chris Masters and Carlito to retain the titles...

Mickie James beats Trish...

Edge beats Foley by spearing him through a flaming table...

Shawn Michaels annihilates McMahon...looking alarmingly like a DX member...

The Undertaker goes 14-0...in the casket match against Mark Henry...

RVD gets a title shot by winning the five-star money in the bank ladder match...

JBL beats Benoit for the US Title (still trying to figure out how JBL has a run like this going...)

Mysterio wins the title...which to me...is a fucking joke...by pinning Orton in the three way...

and Cena (in what I have to call a MAJOR fucking upset) beats HHH by making him tap out to the STFU...

rustoffa
04-03-2006, 01:45 AM
So much for my HHH/Flair theory.
:(

The heel crowd was grate. It got rolling with Mickie James, and eventually had Cena ready to cry.

The HBK ladder splat on Vince was one for the ages....

Foley took one for the team again, on purpose, and probably won't go jogging tomorrow.

The Angle/Orton/Mysterio match was pretty good. Rey blew the one spot and it didn't matter. Where the fuck is Hayabusa when you need him?

I thought the Booker T tunnel of terror, with Goldust and everyone else involved was funny as hell. That Boogeyman dude can't work.....too bad for Booker.

In closing, HHH flipping off the heel audience cheering for him was some LOL shit.

Don Corleone
04-03-2006, 01:06 PM
There's very little in the way of surprises in the results, except for the Cena/HHH result.

Mr Badguy
04-03-2006, 05:26 PM
It`s time to turn Cena heel or get him off TV.

Keeping the belt on him when the fans hate him will eventually turn into bad heat.

The only trouble is if you turn him heel AND keep him on Raw, then he`s No 2 heel at best, as HHH ain`t giving up his spot.

He`s got to drop the belt at Backlash.

rustoffa
04-03-2006, 09:09 PM
Originally posted by Mr Badguy
It`s time to turn Cena heel or get him off TV.

Keeping the belt on him when the fans hate him will eventually turn into bad heat.

The only trouble is if you turn him heel AND keep him on Raw, then he`s No 2 heel at best, as HHH ain`t giving up his spot.

He`s got to drop the belt at Backlash.

Ha!

He's taking it on the chin again tonight!

scottydabodi
04-04-2006, 12:56 AM
As far as match quality goes, I give Wrestlemania a Thumbs Up. Good matches. HHH tapping out to Cena is f-ing b.s. The Boogeyman sucks, but Mickie James is pretty good... best Women's match I've see in a long time(except when she f-ed up the Stratus-faction). Nonetheless, I was entertained, and enjoyed the matches... Shawn steals the show again...

Full Bug
04-04-2006, 12:56 PM
Check out this interview with Bret Hart, his ego has gotten way out of control.....
:rolleyes:

Bret Hart on TSN's Off the Record

One on one segment:

Bret said it wasn't hard agreeing to do the Hall of Fame, but it was
tough to do actually do it. He said there was a lot of emotion and was hard
coming up with what to say given the time frame. Bret says a few days after
the Screwjob, he still would've agreed to do it because he earned it.
Although, when they called him to be inducted, he tried to convince himself
that he wouldn't go.

Landsberg asked what it was like being around the guys again. Hart said the
WWE didn't keep their promise about keeping Michaels away. Bret
doesn't forgive Michaels for anything. He said it was Michaels who
brought him down in a lot of ways.

Bret was honoured to have Stone Cold induct him and was having a great
conversation with him. Landsberg asked what it was like when Hogan
congratulated him. Bret said he and Austin didn't even look at Hogan
and just brushed him off. Bret said Hogan did that to him in the 90s when
Bret won his first title. He went up to Hulk to shake his hand and Hogan
ignored him for five minutes until Bret walked away. He said it felt good
doing it back, like saying "Kiss my ass." Hogan walked away with
his tale between his legs with a puppy dog look on his face.

Bret said his speech wasn't as emotional as he thought it would be but
the Eddie Guerrero induction before his sapped the emotion out of the crowd.
Right before he walked through the curtain a lot of memories came back, and
he wished he had more time. Bret tried to take the high road and keep it
light.

Landsberg asked what Bret's legacy would be. Bret called himself an
artist. Michaels may have worked a little harder, Hogan may have drawn
bigger crowds, and maybe Flair lasted longer than he did, but Hart was
better than all of them. He said it wasn't a night off working with
Flair or Michaels, but it was a night off when people fought Bret. Steve
Austin even told him that a few days ago. When Austin saw Bret's name
next to his, he knew it was a night off. Bret called himself the perfect guy
to work with and wishes he could've wrestled himself.

Landsberg asked if he would ever sit down with Michaels and work things out.
Bret said no. Years ago before they had their fallout, they would shake
hands thinking they were square, but it never accomplished anything.
Michaels never gave a sincere effort to even be honest, let alone apologize.
He doesn't know why Michaels claims to have ever apologized to Bret
because he never has.


The panel joins the show. Paul Godfrey (CEO of the Toronto Blue Jays), Will
Strickland (writer), Paul Hamilton (Buffalo Radio personality):

Topic: Who should be in charge for the Maple Leafs next season, Ferguson or
Quinn? Are the younger players the answer?

Bret didn't say a word during this segment, except when Strickland
said they would sell out the Air Canada Centre no matter what they do,
Landsberg said Bret Hart would sell out by himself.

Quirky Fact: Bret Hart became the first wrestler to win the WWE and WCW
Triple Crown. The second was also trained by Stu Hart, fellow Canadian Chris
Benoit.


Topic: Should MLB leave Bonds alone?

Bret thinks it's a bit of a witch hunt and its overkill now. Paul
Godfrey immediately disagreed. The rest of them argued as Bret watched
again.

An emailer asked Bret which hair product he used back in the day, which Bret
found funny. Answer after the commercial break...


Next Question with Bret Hart (paraphrased):

Landsberg: Best illegal object; the briefcase, the steel chair, the cane, or
Mad Dog Vachon's prosthetic leg?
Hart: The leg for sure.

Landsberg: One punch on any individual; Vince, Earl Hebner or Shawn
Michaels.
Hart: Shawn for sure.
Landsberg: You going to make it count?
Hart: You won't hear about him anymore.

Landsberg: Better evil laugh; Jim Neidhart or Vince McMahon.
Hart: Jim was evil, but nothing like Vince. Vince was the best.

Landsberg: Does Vince deserve and Academy Award for acting?
Hart: Not that I&'ve seen.
Landsberg: You're not giving him any awards are you.
Hart: Not for acting.

Landsberg: Why do so many wrestlers have mullets?
Hart: I don't know, they all come from the same wrestling school?

Landsberg: Hulk Hogan, what year should he have retired?
Hart: Ten years ago.

Landsberg: Favourite Hebner; Dave or Earl?
Hart: Dave.
Landsberg: Easy one right?
Hart: Yeah.

Landsberg: How mad were you at Bad News Brown double cross at WrestleMania.
Hart: I lost a lot of sleep that one night...but I got over it pretty fast.

Landsberg: Were you afraid of Yokozuna squashing you?
Hart: Yeah I was. He did squash me a couple times.

Landsberg: Was Bob Backlund's crazy face the best ever?
Hart: Pretty close.

Landsberg: Who's the biggest ass kisser in the history of pro
wrestling?
Hart: That's a tough one...The best ass kisser I remember is Terry
Taylor. He could pucker up pretty fast.

Landsberg: What hair product did you use back in the day?
Hart: Sebastian Wet.

Landsberg: How many sunglasses did you give away and who paid for them?
Hart: WWE paid for them. I gave away thousands.

Landsberg: Do you know how much the OTR and Canadian audience loves you?
Hart: Uh, no I don't.
Landsberg: Not enough time to talk about it. Thanks Bret.

Sarge's Little Helper
04-04-2006, 12:56 PM
Check out this interview with Bret Hart, his ego has gotten way out of control.....
:rolleyes:

Bret Hart on TSN's Off the Record

One on one segment:

Bret said it wasn't hard agreeing to do the Hall of Fame, but it was
tough to do actually do it. He said there was a lot of emotion and was hard
coming up with what to say given the time frame. Bret says a few days after
the Screwjob, he still would've agreed to do it because he earned it.
Although, when they called him to be inducted, he tried to convince himself
that he wouldn't go.

Landsberg asked what it was like being around the guys again. Hart said the
WWE didn't keep their promise about keeping Michaels away. Bret
doesn't forgive Michaels for anything. He said it was Michaels who
brought him down in a lot of ways.

Bret was honoured to have Stone Cold induct him and was having a great
conversation with him. Landsberg asked what it was like when Hogan
congratulated him. Bret said he and Austin didn't even look at Hogan
and just brushed him off. Bret said Hogan did that to him in the 90s when
Bret won his first title. He went up to Hulk to shake his hand and Hogan
ignored him for five minutes until Bret walked away. He said it felt good
doing it back, like saying "Kiss my ass." Hogan walked away with
his tale between his legs with a puppy dog look on his face.

Bret said his speech wasn't as emotional as he thought it would be but
the Eddie Guerrero induction before his sapped the emotion out of the crowd.
Right before he walked through the curtain a lot of memories came back, and
he wished he had more time. Bret tried to take the high road and keep it
light.

Landsberg asked what Bret's legacy would be. Bret called himself an
artist. Michaels may have worked a little harder, Hogan may have drawn
bigger crowds, and maybe Flair lasted longer than he did, but Hart was
better than all of them. He said it wasn't a night off working with
Flair or Michaels, but it was a night off when people fought Bret. Steve
Austin even told him that a few days ago. When Austin saw Bret's name
next to his, he knew it was a night off. Bret called himself the perfect guy
to work with and wishes he could've wrestled himself.

Landsberg asked if he would ever sit down with Michaels and work things out.
Bret said no. Years ago before they had their fallout, they would shake
hands thinking they were square, but it never accomplished anything.
Michaels never gave a sincere effort to even be honest, let alone apologize.
He doesn't know why Michaels claims to have ever apologized to Bret
because he never has.


The panel joins the show. Paul Godfrey (CEO of the Toronto Blue Jays), Will
Strickland (writer), Paul Hamilton (Buffalo Radio personality):

Topic: Who should be in charge for the Maple Leafs next season, Ferguson or
Quinn? Are the younger players the answer?

Bret didn't say a word during this segment, except when Strickland
said they would sell out the Air Canada Centre no matter what they do,
Landsberg said Bret Hart would sell out by himself.

Quirky Fact: Bret Hart became the first wrestler to win the WWE and WCW
Triple Crown. The second was also trained by Stu Hart, fellow Canadian Chris
Benoit.


Topic: Should MLB leave Bonds alone?

Bret thinks it's a bit of a witch hunt and its overkill now. Paul
Godfrey immediately disagreed. The rest of them argued as Bret watched
again.

An emailer asked Bret which hair product he used back in the day, which Bret
found funny. Answer after the commercial break...


Next Question with Bret Hart (paraphrased):

Landsberg: Best illegal object; the briefcase, the steel chair, the cane, or
Mad Dog Vachon's prosthetic leg?
Hart: The leg for sure.

Landsberg: One punch on any individual; Vince, Earl Hebner or Shawn
Michaels.
Hart: Shawn for sure.
Landsberg: You going to make it count?
Hart: You won't hear about him anymore.

Landsberg: Better evil laugh; Jim Neidhart or Vince McMahon.
Hart: Jim was evil, but nothing like Vince. Vince was the best.

Landsberg: Does Vince deserve and Academy Award for acting?
Hart: Not that I&'ve seen.
Landsberg: You're not giving him any awards are you.
Hart: Not for acting.

Landsberg: Why do so many wrestlers have mullets?
Hart: I don't know, they all come from the same wrestling school?

Landsberg: Hulk Hogan, what year should he have retired?
Hart: Ten years ago.

Landsberg: Favourite Hebner; Dave or Earl?
Hart: Dave.
Landsberg: Easy one right?
Hart: Yeah.

Landsberg: How mad were you at Bad News Brown double cross at WrestleMania.
Hart: I lost a lot of sleep that one night...but I got over it pretty fast.

Landsberg: Were you afraid of Yokozuna squashing you?
Hart: Yeah I was. He did squash me a couple times.

Landsberg: Was Bob Backlund's crazy face the best ever?
Hart: Pretty close.

Landsberg: Who's the biggest ass kisser in the history of pro
wrestling?
Hart: That's a tough one...The best ass kisser I remember is Terry
Taylor. He could pucker up pretty fast.

Landsberg: What hair product did you use back in the day?
Hart: Sebastian Wet.

Landsberg: How many sunglasses did you give away and who paid for them?
Hart: WWE paid for them. I gave away thousands.

Landsberg: Do you know how much the OTR and Canadian audience loves you?
Hart: Uh, no I don't.
Landsberg: Not enough time to talk about it. Thanks Bret.

Oops. I wasn't paying attention. Tell me again what is going on.

Vinnie Velvet
04-04-2006, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by Full Bug
Check out this interview with Bret Hart, his ego has gotten way out of control.....
:rolleyes:

Bret Hart on TSN's Off the Record

One on one segment:

Bret said it wasn't hard agreeing to do the Hall of Fame, but it was
tough to do actually do it. He said there was a lot of emotion and was hard
coming up with what to say given the time frame. Bret says a few days after
the Screwjob, he still would've agreed to do it because he earned it.
Although, when they called him to be inducted, he tried to convince himself
that he wouldn't go.

Landsberg asked what it was like being around the guys again. Hart said the
WWE didn't keep their promise about keeping Michaels away. Bret
doesn't forgive Michaels for anything. He said it was Michaels who
brought him down in a lot of ways.

Bret was honoured to have Stone Cold induct him and was having a great
conversation with him. Landsberg asked what it was like when Hogan
congratulated him. Bret said he and Austin didn't even look at Hogan
and just brushed him off. Bret said Hogan did that to him in the 90s when
Bret won his first title. He went up to Hulk to shake his hand and Hogan
ignored him for five minutes until Bret walked away. He said it felt good
doing it back, like saying "Kiss my ass." Hogan walked away with
his tale between his legs with a puppy dog look on his face.

Bret said his speech wasn't as emotional as he thought it would be but
the Eddie Guerrero induction before his sapped the emotion out of the crowd.
Right before he walked through the curtain a lot of memories came back, and
he wished he had more time. Bret tried to take the high road and keep it
light.

Landsberg asked what Bret's legacy would be. Bret called himself an
artist. Michaels may have worked a little harder, Hogan may have drawn
bigger crowds, and maybe Flair lasted longer than he did, but Hart was
better than all of them. He said it wasn't a night off working with
Flair or Michaels, but it was a night off when people fought Bret. Steve
Austin even told him that a few days ago. When Austin saw Bret's name
next to his, he knew it was a night off. Bret called himself the perfect guy
to work with and wishes he could've wrestled himself.

Landsberg asked if he would ever sit down with Michaels and work things out.
Bret said no. Years ago before they had their fallout, they would shake
hands thinking they were square, but it never accomplished anything.
Michaels never gave a sincere effort to even be honest, let alone apologize.
He doesn't know why Michaels claims to have ever apologized to Bret
because he never has.


The panel joins the show. Paul Godfrey (CEO of the Toronto Blue Jays), Will
Strickland (writer), Paul Hamilton (Buffalo Radio personality):

Topic: Who should be in charge for the Maple Leafs next season, Ferguson or
Quinn? Are the younger players the answer?

Bret didn't say a word during this segment, except when Strickland
said they would sell out the Air Canada Centre no matter what they do,
Landsberg said Bret Hart would sell out by himself.

Quirky Fact: Bret Hart became the first wrestler to win the WWE and WCW
Triple Crown. The second was also trained by Stu Hart, fellow Canadian Chris
Benoit.


Topic: Should MLB leave Bonds alone?

Bret thinks it's a bit of a witch hunt and its overkill now. Paul
Godfrey immediately disagreed. The rest of them argued as Bret watched
again.

An emailer asked Bret which hair product he used back in the day, which Bret
found funny. Answer after the commercial break...


Next Question with Bret Hart (paraphrased):

Landsberg: Best illegal object; the briefcase, the steel chair, the cane, or
Mad Dog Vachon's prosthetic leg?
Hart: The leg for sure.

Landsberg: One punch on any individual; Vince, Earl Hebner or Shawn
Michaels.
Hart: Shawn for sure.
Landsberg: You going to make it count?
Hart: You won't hear about him anymore.

Landsberg: Better evil laugh; Jim Neidhart or Vince McMahon.
Hart: Jim was evil, but nothing like Vince. Vince was the best.

Landsberg: Does Vince deserve and Academy Award for acting?
Hart: Not that I&'ve seen.
Landsberg: You're not giving him any awards are you.
Hart: Not for acting.

Landsberg: Why do so many wrestlers have mullets?
Hart: I don't know, they all come from the same wrestling school?

Landsberg: Hulk Hogan, what year should he have retired?
Hart: Ten years ago.

Landsberg: Favourite Hebner; Dave or Earl?
Hart: Dave.
Landsberg: Easy one right?
Hart: Yeah.

Landsberg: How mad were you at Bad News Brown double cross at WrestleMania.
Hart: I lost a lot of sleep that one night...but I got over it pretty fast.

Landsberg: Were you afraid of Yokozuna squashing you?
Hart: Yeah I was. He did squash me a couple times.

Landsberg: Was Bob Backlund's crazy face the best ever?
Hart: Pretty close.

Landsberg: Who's the biggest ass kisser in the history of pro
wrestling?
Hart: That's a tough one...The best ass kisser I remember is Terry
Taylor. He could pucker up pretty fast.

Landsberg: What hair product did you use back in the day?
Hart: Sebastian Wet.

Landsberg: How many sunglasses did you give away and who paid for them?
Hart: WWE paid for them. I gave away thousands.

Landsberg: Do you know how much the OTR and Canadian audience loves you?
Hart: Uh, no I don't.
Landsberg: Not enough time to talk about it. Thanks Bret.

Not sure why Bret has any beef with Hogan.

I mean, so what, he brushed you off like what, 13 years ago?? Get over it, Bret. Come on.

And what does Stone Cold have anything against Hogan?? Austin wasn't even around when Hulk was running wild in his first WWE run (84-93) and wasn't in WCW when the nWo were riding high (96-98).

Is it because their much planned Mania match didn't happen?

monkeythe
04-05-2006, 03:52 AM
In recent years, Hulk has said many bad things about Austin in different radio interviews. He basically has said that Austin was a flash in the pan and never as big as him and shouldn't be comsidered in his class.

Mr Badguy
04-05-2006, 06:23 AM
Originally posted by Vinnie Velvet
Not sure why Bret has any beef with Hogan.

I mean, so what, he brushed you off like what, 13 years ago?? Get over it, Bret. Come on.

I think Hogan winning the WWE title at WMIX after the Bret/Yokozuna match caused real heat with him and Hogan.

He talks about it in his DVD.

Vinnie Velvet
04-05-2006, 09:10 AM
Originally posted by Mr Badguy
I think Hogan winning the WWE title at WMIX after the Bret/Yokozuna match caused real heat with him and Hogan.

He talks about it in his DVD.

Well, that was Vince's idea anyway.

Vince didn't think Bret was ready to carry the company as WWE Champion just yet, and gave the title back to Hogan.

Didn't matter much since Hulk was gone from the WWE in a matter of 3 months.

Full Bug
04-05-2006, 11:14 PM
What can you say about Warrior, this is funny....


Highlights of Ultimate Warrior's craziness at DePaul University

Some brief notes on the Warrior Warrior's lecture yesterday at DePaul University about Diversity (100 people, sell out) from Jack Edinger.

Gay and lesbian couples (which he referred to as queers and refused to change his verbiage during the lecture) have the same disease as pedophile priests in the Catholic Church keep in mind this was at DePaul University…one of the largest catholic universities in America

Israeli's are "sub-human" because they fight with rocks

When asked how he would feel if his daughter grew up to be a homosexual he replied she wont, shes completely feminine in every sense of the word. Keep in mind she's about 5 years old

When a fan complimented him on slamming Andre the Giant warrior responded "go masturbate at home"

Jack asked how he can go to colleges and promote intelligent debate on issues how could he defend throwing the podium at his speech at Uconn, and he responded "what are you talking to me?" and the stooge DePaul conservative said "he didnt throw a podium...next question"

Anytime a hard question was asked he would reply "your question doesn't make any sense"

Mr Badguy
04-06-2006, 07:58 AM
Great.

The world needs more non PC guys who say what they mean and don`t shirk the real issues.

Vinnie Velvet
04-06-2006, 01:58 PM
Originally posted by Full Bug
What can you say about Warrior, this is funny....


Highlights of Ultimate Warrior's craziness at DePaul University

Some brief notes on the Warrior Warrior's lecture yesterday at DePaul University about Diversity (100 people, sell out) from Jack Edinger.

Gay and lesbian couples (which he referred to as queers and refused to change his verbiage during the lecture) have the same disease as pedophile priests in the Catholic Church keep in mind this was at DePaul University…one of the largest catholic universities in America

Israeli's are "sub-human" because they fight with rocks

When asked how he would feel if his daughter grew up to be a homosexual he replied she wont, shes completely feminine in every sense of the word. Keep in mind she's about 5 years old

When a fan complimented him on slamming Andre the Giant warrior responded "go masturbate at home"

Jack asked how he can go to colleges and promote intelligent debate on issues how could he defend throwing the podium at his speech at Uconn, and he responded "what are you talking to me?" and the stooge DePaul conservative said "he didnt throw a podium...next question"

Anytime a hard question was asked he would reply "your question doesn't make any sense"

LMAO!!!

Jesus H. Christ.

monkeythe
04-07-2006, 12:26 AM
What does everyone think of the match set for Backlash between Vince & Shane against Shawn Michaels & God and where can this possibly be leading to?

Mr Badguy
04-07-2006, 07:35 AM
Originally posted by monkeythe
What does everyone think of the match set for Backlash between Vince & Shane against Shawn Michaels & God and where can this possibly be leading to?

I think it is leading to a run in by some born again christian wrestler who isn`t currently on the roster.

I hope it is because that match doesn`t whet the appetite for Backlash.

Vinnie Velvet
04-07-2006, 09:31 AM
Originally posted by Mr Badguy
I think it is leading to a run in by some born again christian wrestler who isn`t currently on the roster.

I hope it is because that match doesn`t whet the appetite for Backlash.

Yeah, no kidding.

We've already seen Vince and Shane vs Shawn (RAW), Shane vs Shawn (SNME) and now Vince vs Shawn (WM22).

I'm thinking "God" will end up being someone Micheals will eventually feud with.

Who that will be remains a mystery.

Big Troubles
04-07-2006, 10:09 AM
CM PUNK! :D

Big Troubles
04-07-2006, 10:12 AM
anyone else catch Smackdown! this week? (just Canada so far I suppose) Well without giving too much away- El Gigante's long lost second cousins, living abortion has been brought to terms and debut and boy is he gonna be laughed at. :D Lets just say The Giant Gonzales gimmick was WAY more impressive. I think he was more agile too? ;)

Brent Albright debuts as a "lucky pinfall winner"... :rolleyes: Meanwhile he's got more talent than the guy he pins...(Booker T)

and I am SO NOT looking forward to the Miz....? Holy fudgepacking queer-loaded gimmicks Batman!

bueno bob
04-07-2006, 11:38 AM
http://magazine.libero.it/c/img52/fg//02/2952/2006/1/Mickie-James2.jpg

Wheee!!!!!!

Big Troubles
04-07-2006, 11:57 AM
Mickie James is a dirty birdie. :D

there was a little girl who had a little curl-right in the middle of her forehead. When she bad she was really really bad, but when she was good she was "whore-id"

Big Troubles
04-07-2006, 11:59 AM
she looks like a great party gal! if there is one flaw though, it's got to be that her teeth are too big! :D smile bitch I can see your twat! yeah that's it... *click click*

Vinnie Velvet
04-07-2006, 12:43 PM
She's got a shitload of teeth --- then again, a little biting sure adds to the excitement!

:D

Anonymous
04-08-2006, 05:55 PM
I simply LARVE Mickie James! Ever since she first appeared on RAW she struck me as being a grate wrestler and equally grate on acting, but I never did imagine she'd be spreading her twat for her fans to enjoy.

Now this is a girl that could teach a lot to Trish Stratus, namely on how to uncover more of your body and being sexy while at it. :D Weeeee!

Trish we got it, you're veru talented and we respect you mucho many, that's for sure. But we would NOT complain if we saw a bit more of your body on RAW, angel.

Cheers! :bottle:

WARF
04-08-2006, 06:13 PM
I was sent in a capsule, from a place long from here...
And I came here for one reason...
TO ATTACK AND KEEP COMIN!!!
NOT TO ASK BUT TO GIVE!!!
NOT TO WANT BUT JUST TO SEND!!!
Send the power of the warrior...
Down everybody's throat in the WWF...
UNTIL THEY BECOME SICK OF IT!
Well your gonna get sick of it...
Because this freak of nature is just beginning to swell..
And when I get big enough brother...
There ain't gonna be enough room except for me and all the warriors,

FLOATIN' THROUGH THE VEINS
AND THE POWER
OF THE WARRRRRRRRRIAHHHHHH!!!!!!

Big Troubles
04-09-2006, 10:19 AM
a more accurate picture and up to date picture of the Warrior has him with thinning grey hair, a business suit too big and no muscles.

But he thinks he can work a match with Goldberg for TNA and make millions and millions!!?? ;)

Big Troubles
04-09-2006, 10:27 AM
.

Vinnie Velvet
04-10-2006, 12:51 PM
Originally posted by Big Troubles
.

Wow.

I always thought Warrior still looked like...well....Warrior circa 1990.

Guess I was wrong.


I remember reading somewhere that he was a freak in terms of working out.

Hard to believe that even when he's not wrestling anymore, he'd stop working out.


Ya know, I'd still like to see a Goldberg-Warrior confrontation in TNA.


It wouldn't make millions, but it'd be entertaining watching two of the worst wrestlers in history go at it.

:D

Vinnie Velvet
04-10-2006, 12:54 PM
Here's another pic of Warrior (maybe taken a few years ago. He's the one on the right. LOL).

http://www.wrestlevision.com/Ultimate_Bender_sm.jpg

Big Troubles
04-10-2006, 07:29 PM
that one is pretty recent. If that match were to happen, do you think Warrior would come in looking like that, or would he work out like a mad man and dye his hair? :D

WARF
04-10-2006, 07:36 PM
Jim Hellwig would probably have to walk to the ring these days. lol

Big Troubles
04-10-2006, 08:08 PM
If Jim Helwig were to read this, Jim Helwig would suit us, for using any one of his names. :D Although, I must say he was very entertaining and made me shell out cash to see him.

Classic: Ultimate Warrior vs Randy Savage SummerSlam 92, Ultimate Warrior vs Hulh Hogan Wrestlemania 6 and Ultimate Warrior vs Rick Rude SummerSlam 90

rustoffa
04-10-2006, 10:46 PM
Originally posted by Mr Badguy
I think it is leading to a run in by some born again christian wrestler who isn`t currently on the roster.


Nikita?
:D
http://www.nikitakoloff.com/ministering.JPG

http://www.nikitakoloff.com/ministry.htm

Full Bug
04-11-2006, 02:12 PM
Any wrestling company that would hire Warrior at this point given his history of never showing up would be nuts......

Vinnie Velvet
04-11-2006, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by Full Bug
Any wrestling company that would hire Warrior at this point given his history of never showing up would be nuts......

Yeah, that's true.


Do you think he will get inducted into the Hall of Fame next year?

WARF
04-11-2006, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by Vinnie Velvet
Yeah, that's true.


Do you think he will get inducted into the Hall of Fame next year?

Why would Vince MacMahon release, "The Destruction of the Ultimate Warrior" DVD and then induct him?

Vinnie Velvet
04-12-2006, 08:56 AM
Originally posted by WARF
Why would Vince MacMahon release, "The Destruction of the Ultimate Warrior" DVD and then induct him?

Anything to make a buck off of him, i guess.

Never say never as far as Vince is concerned.

Big Troubles
04-12-2006, 05:00 PM
prolly never see Warrior in a wrestling co. again... The Legends PPV later this month will be good for shits and giggles.

Dave's Bitch
04-17-2006, 10:13 PM
LMAO im watching Raw and Vince has HBK tied up in the ropes,he just went out to get a chair to hit shawn with and OMFG,the ring post exploded in his face twice,There actualy having a "higher power" help shawn out.

rustoffa
04-17-2006, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by Dave's Bitch
LMAO im watching Raw and Vince has HBK tied up in the ropes,he just went out to get a chair to hit shawn with and OMFG,the ring post exploded in his face twice,There actualy having a "higher power" help shawn out.

Pyro intervention!

Dave's Bitch
04-17-2006, 10:42 PM
Trish looks so much better with brown hair

Vinnie Velvet
04-19-2006, 10:49 AM
Trisk looks very yummy with brown hair, yes!!!!!

Vinnie Velvet
04-19-2006, 10:57 AM
Not sure about this HBK-God-Vince thing they got going on, but I am liking Shawn embracing the old "DX attitude" again, doing the crotch chops and so on.

But you wonder, even Triple H has been doing the DX chop again----what are they telling us??? (other than 'suck it!' :D)

Is this just teasing a DX Reunion again?

Or just HBK and HHH having some fun.

Mr Badguy
04-19-2006, 11:17 AM
If they were going to do a DX reunion, who would turn?

HHH to face or Shawn to heel?

amadeus
04-19-2006, 11:31 AM
HHH is probably going to turn face at Backlash when he gets the title back from Cena as they want to make Cena a heel since he has been getting alot of 'boos' lately. Cena will be gone for a while for his movie and they will go back and forth between HHH and Edge. The plan is to have HHH drop the title to RVD at the ECW PPV in June and HHH will leave for a while to be with Steph and the baby. RVD and Edge will be fueding for the rest of the summer. Anyways, don't be surprised to see Chyna back in the WWE ; maybe even at Backlash. The DX chop by both HHH and HBK was no coincidence-there will be a reformation of DX!!

Vinnie Velvet
04-19-2006, 01:52 PM
Originally posted by amadeus
Anyways, don't be surprised to see Chyna back in the WWE ; maybe even at Backlash. The DX chop by both HHH and HBK was no coincidence-there will be a reformation of DX!!

I don't know dude.

Although a DX Reunion with only HHH and HBK seems likely, I don't think we'll see Chyna anytime soon.

She is a wacko these days and with HHH being Chyna's ex, I can't see her doing anything with Hunter -- even a DX reunion.

monkeythe
04-22-2006, 06:43 PM
While the WWE flirts with pornography, there is no way that either Chyna or X PAc will be back in the WWE because of their tape.

Full Bug
04-23-2006, 09:38 PM
ECW brand coming back

Dave@wrestlingobserver.com

In a story reported on earlier today by Pro Wrestling Insider, WWE is indeed bringing back the ECW brand name for merchandising purposes as well as some form of weekly television and house shows.

The decision appears to have been finalized in the past week as several former stars were offered three-year contracts.

Paul Heyman will be in charge of the brand. It is believed this will be a mix of both former ECW wrestlers and new WWE developmental wrestlers.

It is expected this will lead to some significant changes in the WWE television product as well. The company is not looking to add a third day of television taping. It would likely be handled similar to the Superastros deal in the late 90s, with weekly matches taped before either the Raw or Smackdown tapings.

Full Bug
04-23-2006, 09:40 PM
Great news as long as Heyman is in charge....

rustoffa
04-23-2006, 10:57 PM
Originally posted by Full Bug
The company is not looking to add a third day of television taping. It would likely be handled similar to the Superastros deal in the late 90s, with weekly matches taped before either the Raw or Smackdown tapings.


It won't look right in the big auditoriums. C'mon Vince, rent the bingo hall out.
:rolleyes:

POJO_Risin
04-24-2006, 01:22 AM
I've heard some rumblings about a reformed DX...

would be interesting to say the least...and long overdue...

Chyna wouldn't be back...no way...

and doubtful that the New Age Outlaws would return...with their badmouthing of the company...but you never know...

DX reunion? (http://www.prowrestling.com/news.php?id=17538/articles/news)

There are also a bunch of rumors about HHH turning face to end his career...so that would fit christian boy as well...

Vinnie Velvet
04-24-2006, 11:41 AM
Originally posted by POJO_Risin
I've heard some rumblings about a reformed DX...

would be interesting to say the least...and long overdue...

Chyna wouldn't be back...no way...

and doubtful that the New Age Outlaws would return...with their badmouthing of the company...but you never know...

DX reunion? (http://www.prowrestling.com/news.php?id=17538/articles/news)

There are also a bunch of rumors about HHH turning face to end his career...so that would fit christian boy as well...

It will be an HBK-HHH DX Reunion.

X-Pac is a possibility -- but that's about it.

monkeythe
05-12-2006, 10:25 PM
Why is the World Heavyweight Champion a jobber to crappy wrestlers like MArk Henry and The Great Kahli?

rustoffa
05-12-2006, 10:39 PM
Have y'all seen this?
:D

<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/cZ2aX-Lgh6M"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/cZ2aX-Lgh6M" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

Mr Badguy
05-13-2006, 07:06 AM
Originally posted by monkeythe
Why is the World Heavyweight Champion a jobber to crappy wrestlers like MArk Henry and The Great Kahli?

Because the WWE uppercard is getting threadbare.

They have to get that belt off Mysterio and on to a bigger guy to make Batista`s comeback a lot more credible.

However, Mark Henry has always been shit and looks like a cross between "Predator" and Barry White.

The Great Kahli makes you yearn for a Giant Gonzales comeback.

Why don`t they just turn Lashley heel?

He would be like WWE`s Monty Brown.

Jesus, even get JBL back in the world title picture.

POJO_Risin
05-13-2006, 10:13 AM
Who are the champs now?

Cena and...

Angle?

Mr Badguy
05-13-2006, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by POJO_Risin
Who are the champs now?

Cena and...

Angle?

Nah.

Cena and (heavyweight?) Rey Mysterio.

Big Troubles
05-14-2006, 05:37 PM
Originally posted by rustoffa
Have y'all seen this?
:D

<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/cZ2aX-Lgh6M"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/cZ2aX-Lgh6M" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

:D I can watch that over and over... In fact I have. lol

Big Troubles
05-14-2006, 05:39 PM
Originally posted by Mr Badguy
Nah.

Cena and (heavyweight?) Rey Mysterio.

Both absolutely suck at being a champ. Cena is a pussy. And Rey Rey is being booked as one.

rustoffa
05-14-2006, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by Big Troubles
:D I can watch that over and over... In fact I have. lol

"Thank you Mr. Funk for sayin' what needed to be say-yud"....unfuckingbelievable.

I've actually got one of those NWA t shirts, and agree with the fucker's opinion of Dick Murdoch. I think his emotional speel is a little over the top though!
:D

Big Troubles
05-14-2006, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by rustoffa
I've actually got one of those NWA t shirts, and agree with the fucker's opinion of Dick Murdoch. I think his emotional speel is a little over the top though!
:D


Yeah just a smidgen over the top. lol "It's still real to me damn it!" Yes...yes it is.

Dick Murdoch, Crusher, Dory and Race are all mid west/southern GIANTS in this sport and I truly believe the NWA and the AWA were made by them and not the other way around. But yeah, peeing your pants and sniveling like a bitch at a NWA legends convention is a bit GAY. :D

rustoffa
05-14-2006, 09:21 PM
Good ol' Dick Slater.....you want a "shoot" interview? Check this out.

http://www.1wrestlingshop.com/product.asp?affiliateid=151&id=13493

I had the good fortune of witnessing this fucker beat the shit out of Tommy Rich, and like 4 other dipshits one night

Big Troubles
05-15-2006, 08:38 AM
Originally posted by rustoffa
Good ol' Dick Slater.....you want a "shoot" interview? Check this out.

http://www.1wrestlingshop.com/product.asp?affiliateid=151&id=13493

I had the good fortune of witnessing this fucker beat the shit out of Tommy Rich, and like 4 other dipshits one night

what did happen to ol' dirty dick anyways? he went from clean cut rebel to, uh, teaming with BunkHouse Buck in WcW, then I dunno after that?

rustoffa
05-16-2006, 11:12 PM
Originally posted by Big Troubles
what did happen to ol' dirty dick anyways? he went from clean cut rebel to, uh, teaming with BunkHouse Buck in WcW, then I dunno after that?

There's a pretty funny mugshot here. (http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Wrestling/2005/01/20/904646.html)

Mr Badguy
05-17-2006, 05:03 AM
Turning Foley heel is going well, isn`t it.

rustoffa
05-17-2006, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by Mr Badguy
Turning Foley heel is going well, isn`t it.

Pathetic. Wonder who the next former ECW victim will be? Gotta love that "defending the WWE honor" groundwork.

My guess is a revisit to the ECW invasion angle @ some point.....three strikes, you're out of ideas.
:rolleyes:

Full Bug
05-19-2006, 05:26 PM
Former Northwest star and WWE wrestler clinging to life today

Dave@wrestlingobserver.com

Wrestler Steve Doll, part of the Southern Rockers tag team that was a hit in Oregon about 15 years ago, and later Steven Dunn of the tag team Well Dunn in the WWF, is clinging to life at Baptist Hospital in Nashville.

His kidneys shut down this morning and he is on life support.

monkeythe
05-19-2006, 11:24 PM
Anyone see Kane's movie yet? If not, you're missing a very important moral lesson, it is better to kill someone than to play with yourself.

Anonymous
05-26-2006, 12:55 AM
Triple H vs. Batista again? Teaming up with the Nature Boy even? Chris Jericho is back, has Piper on his corner and has a fight against... Mohammed Hassan??? I could SWEAR I heard all this shit on KZOK all week while they were offering tickets to Monday Night RAW the 29th of this month at the Tacoma Dome... maybe I was just friggin' delusional at the time?

If I'm havin' delusions about wrestling, I'm gonna stop watching it pretty soon... and what's worse, the fuckin' delusions ain't even involving Trish, Mickie, Maria and/or Lita in hot steamy lesbian sex with me in the middle of that sweat soked bed...

If it does NOT happen Monday Night, please, PLEASE disregard this post... I've been better in the head than I am now, that's fer sure.

Cheers! :bottle:

Full Bug
05-29-2006, 11:03 AM
Kidman: Why I was fired

Sun Online

WHEN Billy Kidman was let go by the WWE last year nobody knew why.

Was the high-flyer a victim of a lack of interest in the cruiserweight division or had 10 years of wrestling taken its toll on his body?

Now, for the very first time, Billy has told his side of the story - blasting WWE bosses for the way they treat their stars and revealing that he thinks speaking up about it cost him his job.

The wrestler, who is married to gorgeous Diva Torrie Wilson, exclusively told Sun Online: "We were at a WWE talent meeting and they were saying how great business was overseas and how much money they made on the last tour to Australia.

"Then, in the very next sentence, they told us they're not going to fly us business class on foreign trips anymore. So we were looking at 10-20 hour flights in economy class.

"I had heard rumours they may be doing that and I was already fed up about the many different ways in which they take advantage of us.

"So I asked: 'Why would you cut the budget from overseas tours when that's where we're making money and when we go over there so much? Why not cut budgets in the States? You brought in a dress code because you said we had to look like athletes - so show me one athlete who flies economy class.'"

"I think I was the first person to say something and then, from that point, it was Kurt Angle, Eddie Guerrero, John Cena and Booker T.

"There is one guy who doesn't sit in that group!

"As soon as I raised my hand I knew I was going to get fired and once I started talking I couldn't stop.

"I heard rumours that I was let go because of injuries, but this is the bottom line. Anybody who was in that meeting knows why I got fired.

Billy, who is still angry about the WWE's treatment of their superstars, added: "There's no reason to send guys overseas, make them work eight or nine shows, then fly them in the middle seat coach class. But at least they're dressed up with a tie on!

"I still speak to people there and things like this are killing morale. But I don't think it's sunk into the WWE how low morale affects people's work.

"When I started in wrestling I couldn't understand why the veterans would do the same thing every night.

"But after 10 years of being treated like c**p in WCW and WWE I can see why. You don't want to screw the fans, but you are drained mentally and don't want to give your all.

"I never ever ever thought I'd get to the point where I didn't want to wrestle anymore. In my whole life all I ever wanted to do was work for the WWE.

"But you can only be treated like a caged animal for so long before something snaps."

Full Bug
05-29-2006, 11:04 AM
What a cheap bastard Vince is, he has his own private jet so he has no worries, but making the wrestlers fly economy class? I dont blame Kidman, what a joke....

monkeythe
06-04-2006, 01:13 AM
Originally posted by Full Bug
What a cheap bastard Vince is, he has his own private jet so he has no worries, but making the wrestlers fly economy class? I dont blame Kidman, what a joke....

That's why Vince is a billionaire and WCW went out of business

SA ME WHO
06-04-2006, 01:53 AM
Yeah, I think Vince's "No one is bigger than me/my company" is even more rampant today than it's ever been.

It definitely is more applicable to mid-card/lower-card guys, but Vince feels if he keeps his top 5 or so guys happy, the rest can do what they want (which is wrestle for the E, making pretty much the best possible money in the business or go else where and make less money and have a lot more uncertainty as far as your career goes).

monkeythe
06-07-2006, 05:24 PM
Earthquake has lost his long battle with bladder cancer.
The WWE has posted his WM X match against Adam Bomb on their site.
http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/tenta

RIP Earthquake

rustoffa
06-07-2006, 10:33 PM
Holy shit!

They're bastardizing ECW!!!

Full Bug
06-07-2006, 11:43 PM
An interesting interview with the Egomaniac and somewhat delusional Hulk Hogan....

Hogan's still running wild

HE'S COMING BACK, BROTHER ... Hulk set for WWE

In his mind he is the greatest wrestler who ever lived.

And Hulk Hogan is preparing to return to the squared circle for at least one more run.

In a world exclusive interview with SunSport Online The Hulkster - who is currently starring in his own MTV reality show Hogan Knows Best every Sunday at 9.30pm - revealed that he and WWE boss Vince McMahon are already planning his next comeback.

Hogan told us: "I really do miss wrestling.

"I'm 52-years-old, but I'm in pretty darn good shape and have been training hard.

"I spoke to Vince in New York on Sunday and he's asked me to come back. He wants to make me the Babe Ruth or Muhammad Ali of wrestling.

"Next April WrestleMania is back in Detroit, Michigan. Twenty years ago in the same city, at the same event, I bodyslammed Andre The Giant.

"Vince was saying to me: 'Oh my gosh, you have to be in the main event 20 years later.'

"We'll probably end up doing business."

That business may or may not include Stone Cold Steve Austin.

Alongside Hogan, Austin can lay claim to being the biggest superstar in wrestling history.

And putting the pair of them against each other for the first time would provide the dream match to end all dream matches - especially if it takes place at WrestleMania 23.

Hogan wanted the bout to happen at this year's event in Chicago, and told us he even took his wrestling gear to the Hall Of Fame ceremony the night before just in case.

The Hulkster said: "I've thrown the challenge out there and now it's up to Stone Cold if he wants to do the match.

"I really don't know why it hasn't happened already. I thought maybe Vince and Steve had fallen out, but I've since found out that they've done some sort of deal to keep Austin as part of the company.

"So if he's part of the WWE, I've got no idea why Steve wouldn't want to have a match at WrestleMania.

"I don't know if he has a problem with me personally.

"When we were in WCW, and he was Stunning Steve Austin, he talked to me a couple of times about different ideas he had to work with me.

"The ideas were OK, they weren't home runs but they were pretty good.

"Then when I came back to the WWE with the nWo, he was pretty much in charge there and we had a few storylines together. There were no problems at all.

"There aren't any 'dream matches' for me, because I've done so much I'm not on that level of 'oh my gosh, I'd love to work with him'.

"It's more that I want to do good business, help the sport and give the fans what they want. And working with Steve would do all three."

The Hulkster admits that one problem in any potential Hogan v Austin match would be how it would finish.

Wrestling results may be predetermined, but who wins is as important to a grappler as any star of a 'real' sport.


When Hulk pinned Shawn Michaels at SummerSlam, Michaels went on Raw the next night and did an interview implying Hogan, the match and the business were a joke.

"That was all about his ego," Hulk blasted. "Shawn Michaels is a born-again Christian, but inside he's the same old Shawn Michaels. He hasn't changed a bit.

"At that point we were talking about doing more matches, but when I heard his promo I wasn't interested in working with him again.

"If Vince McMahon had told me to lose to Shawn Michaels it would have been no big deal, it's nothing personal just business.

"But I don't think he ever got in trouble for what he said, because backstage they think all that stuff is cute.

"I don't know how to explain it, but there was this attitude that came along with some of the guys in the late 1990s.

"They'd take the heat away from the matches and make opponents out to be ridiculous.

"You can only act like that if you don't care about the business."

Even though the Hulkster has no time for Shawn Michaels any more, he certainly isn't close to Shawn's arch-enemy Bret Hart.

Hart refused to shake Hogan's hand at this year's Hall Of Fame and still holds a grudge about Hulk preferring to drop the WWE title to Yokozuna instead of him back in 1993.

"Bret Hart had a case of the ass at the Hall Of Fame," Hogan revealed. "He was mad at me and Ric Flair and a bunch of other people because we told the truth on the (never released) Screwed DVD about him.

"Bret says the business is a work but he really thinks it's a shoot. He really believes he's the greatest wrestler ever. Of course he's not, Kurt Angle or a lot of guys could beat him if it was a real wrestling match.

"My view on the 1997 Survivor Series - that match where Bret screwed Bret in Montreal - is that Vince needed to get the belt off him, because he wasn't drawing any money, and Bret acted totally unprofessionally.

"So I gave that opinion on the DVD. I said when Vince McMahon asked him to lose the belt, then he should have lost it.

"Because wrestling is not real, it's entertainment."

As for the title he never lost to Bret, Hogan commented: "There were several miscommunications that happened over that.

"Basically I was leaving and had some problems about putting the belt on the right person, because if you put the belt on the wrong person when you come back it's hard to get the business going again.

"If Vince had told me to drop the belt to Bret I would have done it, but since he asked me I said: 'I need to drop to Yokozuna, he's red hot right now. He can carry it.'

"But it's just an ongoing saga with these guys. I have to focus on what's good for me and my family. I can't worry about these personal b*****s with everybody. It's not what business is about.

"If Vince McMahon told me to lose the belt tomorrow to you, then I'd do it with class and charisma."

During his time in the wrestling business Hogan has fought almost everyone from King Kong Bundy to The Rock.

He rates Austin, Macho Man Randy Savage, Mr Wonderful Paul Orndorff, Mr Perfect Curt Hennig, Andre The Giant and One Man Gang as the best of all time.

And canvassing opinion before this interview there were three very different opponents everyone we spoke to wanted to know about - Randy, Andre and The Ultimate Warrior.

Hogan was happy to oblige, telling us: "Andre was always fun to work with. For the first seven or eight years he didn't like me and would shoot style beat me up all the time - I'd get sick just thinking about wrestling him. Then we became friends later on in my career.

"Macho Man was awesome at what he did and someone who I could always draw a lot of money with.

"Whenever I was taking time off to do movies or have surgery he was a good person to keep the belt on and I didn't have a problem with Macho Man being the champion even when I was there.

"Sadly in his later years, Randy got wacky and crazy and bipolar.

"He accused me of everything - when his wife left him, when he got divorced and when he lost his job, he blamed me for it all. But he never said anything about me getting him a job with WCW or that is was for a couple of million dollars more than they were offering.


"Ultimate Warrior had a hell of a gimmick, but wrestling is about so much more than that. You have to be consistent, work main events every night and have matches that people really believe in and want to see.

"Warrior wasn't one of those guys that had the wrestling business in his blood, he didn't love wrestling like Randy Savage and Bret Hart did.

"I knew as soon as he made a little money he would get lazy or disappear - and that's basically what happened.

"We had a great match at WrestleMania 6, but I remember five minutes in he was breathing very heavily and he wanted to go home - he wanted to end the match.

"I said: 'We're not going home until you Gorilla Press me over your head and I kick out of your finish. We'll give the people a huge reaction then you can kick out of my Leg Drop then we'll go home.'

"I had to hold him down in a rear chinlock until he calmed down and stopped freaking out!"

Warrior was the first man to beat Hogan cleanly by pinfall for around eight years - but like much of Hulk's career it wasn't without controversy.

Hogan admits that after Warrior defeated him, he purposely hogged the limelight by handing over the title and therefore set the new champion up to fail.

He told us: "Hulkamania was so powerful at the time, but Vince had fallen in love with The Ultimate Warrior gimmick.

"Vince wanted another force in the WWF as strong as Hulkamania, as that would give him control, a bigger business and protection in case I got hurt.

"I'm loyal to a fault - even though I've been to hell and back with Vince McMahon, I would never to do anything to hurt him.

"But it's also survival of the fittest out there.

"I knew he picked the wrong guy and at the end of the match I had to take care of myself, and one of the ways I did that was stealing the spotlight from The Ultimate Warrior.

"I showed that a real champion was more gracious in defeat than victory so that in the end nobody cared about the belt.

"All they cared about was Hulk Hogan."

And almost 30 years since he first stepped foot inside a wrestling ring, people do still care deeply about the star.

It's the same feeling of love Hogan has for all his Hulkamaniacs.

"I love to give the fans what they want," he told us. "They're what I miss most when I'm not wrestling.

"That time in the ring is like being in heaven for me."

Full Bug
06-07-2006, 11:44 PM
'He rates Austin, Macho Man Randy Savage, Mr Wonderful Paul Orndorff, Mr Perfect Curt Hennig, Andre The Giant and One Man Gang as the best of all time.'
ONE MAN GANG? Now thats pretty funny, lol....

SA ME WHO
06-08-2006, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by Full Bug
'He rates Austin, Macho Man Randy Savage, Mr Wonderful Paul Orndorff, Mr Perfect Curt Hennig, Andre The Giant and One Man Gang as the best of all time.'
ONE MAN GANG? Now thats pretty funny, lol....

I'm thinking he had to have meant to work with and not stars because OMG just wasn't all time best guy.

VHdamaco
06-08-2006, 12:08 PM
egmoanical, delusional or not, hogan still knows what the people want to hear, thats why he is one of the greatest sports entertainers of all time...

i wonder what is opinion is on roddy piper. i ask becuase i went to a house show up in PA for a promtion called KYDA pro, and it was roddy piper day, we spent 30$ for reserved seats and when piper came out (for all of about 5 minutes) you could definately tell he had done some coke people going on stage...

that was dissapointing...

Full Bug
06-11-2006, 05:22 PM
Ignore this post, just testing a computer problem.....
Anyone going to get the ECW PPV?

Mr Badguy
06-11-2006, 11:02 PM
Yeah, I got it.

That was a sickening bump through the table in the Rey/Sabu match.

There was a big decline in actual ECW guys this year, it was more like the WCW Invasion from a couple of years ago, all solid WWE guys in the big matches with a few ECW in matches that don`t mean shit.

Full Bug
06-11-2006, 11:26 PM
A friend of mine taped it, think its worth me watching? If there were sick bumps I will anyway....
I hear Foley's eye is pretty fucked up, Funk really shot on those punches on Raw eh?

rustoffa
06-11-2006, 11:57 PM
Originally posted by Mr Badguy
That was a sickening bump through the table in the Rey/Sabu match.


Now THAT was an Arabian facebuster!!
:D

SA ME WHO
06-12-2006, 11:41 AM
I just wonder what kind of shit Vince will say tonight on Raw so they can steal back the title (or will they just claim "rape" and make a new title - I see Edge vs. Cena for the belt at Vengeance.)

The Rey/Sabu bump was nuts! And even though it was a "throwaway" match, loved the chairshot at the end of Balls/Tanaka. And DAMN!!!!! are they pumping Edge up!

Mr Badguy
06-12-2006, 02:02 PM
I was pissed off with Heyman doing the count for RVD to win.

It sets up the biggest Dusty finish for years.

Is there anyone who didn`t click that the title change will be invalid because a sanctioned ref didn`t make the count?

Vinnie Velvet
06-12-2006, 02:02 PM
Originally posted by SA ME WHO
I just wonder what kind of shit Vince will say tonight on Raw so they can steal back the title (or will they just claim "rape" and make a new title - I see Edge vs. Cena for the belt at Vengeance.)

The Rey/Sabu bump was nuts! And even though it was a "throwaway" match, loved the chairshot at the end of Balls/Tanaka. And DAMN!!!!! are they pumping Edge up!

Well, this is what I think will go down with the title thing.

Since Vince these days has really been "turning back the clock" (ECW return, soon-to-be DX return), I think RVD's title win shall stand and that it will be now known as the ECW Championship.

Vince will bring back the old style WWE belt (late 80s, 1990s to 2001 round version) and put it up for grabs for Cena and Edge to battle for at Vengeance.

Just a thought.

Vinnie Velvet
06-13-2006, 09:27 AM
Great RAW show.

Oh and two words.....SUCK IT!!!!


DX IS BACK!

SA ME WHO
06-13-2006, 11:56 AM
Originally posted by Vinnie Velvet
Great RAW show.

Oh and two words.....SUCK IT!!!!


DX IS BACK!

I wonder if they'll play the "DX" music next week or if they'll wait to debut it at Vengeance. I guess that's why they leaked the DX reunion earlier, so they had more than 2 weeks to actually hype them.

monkeythe
06-14-2006, 10:21 PM
Anyone catch that hideous show Tuesday Night RAW, oops ECW on Sci-Fi. The non RAW stuff was really bad. Apparantly the new ECW is about Zombies, Vampires, and strippers that can't undo their bra.
In all seriousness, that was the worst hour of wrestling I have seen in a very long time. AT least there is nowhere to go but up from that travesty of a show.

Full Bug
06-14-2006, 11:01 PM
We dont get it in Canada yet, from what I read about last nights show I'm glad....

Vinnie Velvet
06-15-2006, 10:08 AM
Originally posted by SA ME WHO
I wonder if they'll play the "DX" music next week or if they'll wait to debut it at Vengeance. I guess that's why they leaked the DX reunion earlier, so they had more than 2 weeks to actually hype them.

Head over to wwe.com and watch the Vengeance press conference they held a few days ago.

Shawn and Hunter came out to the DX music with DX shirts on!

HBK got up onto the table and did the DX crotch chop.

As for their interview...well...they were up to their old ways for sure.

:D

bueno bob
06-17-2006, 05:02 AM
Hogan admits that after Warrior defeated him, he purposely hogged the limelight by handing over the title and therefore set the new champion up to fail.

He told us: "Hulkamania was so powerful at the time, but Vince had fallen in love with The Ultimate Warrior gimmick.

"Vince wanted another force in the WWF as strong as Hulkamania, as that would give him control, a bigger business and protection in case I got hurt.

"I'm loyal to a fault - even though I've been to hell and back with Vince McMahon, I would never to do anything to hurt him.

"But it's also survival of the fittest out there.

"I knew he picked the wrong guy and at the end of the match I had to take care of myself, and one of the ways I did that was stealing the spotlight from The Ultimate Warrior.

"I showed that a real champion was more gracious in defeat than victory so that in the end nobody cared about the belt.

"All they cared about was Hulk Hogan."

*******************************

Worked like a charm, didn't it?

You can score that two ways and be right on both accounts:

1) Hogan's a self-centered pompous ass (which is true); and

2) He was spot-on about Ultimate Warrior not caring about the sport on a deeper level and just in it to make some money and disappear after that (also true).

Hogan...love him or hate him, the man knows the business like few others...

Mr Badguy
06-17-2006, 06:55 AM
Originally posted by bueno bob
Hogan...love him or hate him, the man knows the business like few others...

Yeah, but what about Sting, Goldberg and Wrestlemania IX?

He has started putting guys over recently (although The Rock and Shawn Michaels hardly needed it) but back in the day he held plenty of guys down.

If Vince had held onto him in 1994, WWE would have been out of business by now.

bueno bob
06-17-2006, 07:07 AM
Originally posted by Mr Badguy
Yeah, but what about Sting, Goldberg and Wrestlemania IX?

He has started putting guys over recently (although The Rock and Shawn Michaels hardly needed it) but back in the day he held plenty of guys down.

If Vince had held onto him in 1994, WWE would have been out of business by now.

I agree with every bit of that. Like I said, hogging the spotlight from UW during their match ruined every bit of momentum Warrior had (although after beating Hogan, there was nowhere for Warrior to go but down anyway).

Hogan's a master of self-promotion...and a pompous ass...but he does know how to get himself ahead of the competition.

At this stage of the game, he should be mostly interested in putting other guys over, absolutely. Nobody wants to see another Hogan championship run...that would be stupid...

Young guys could use the boost though, and Hogan's name will lend a lot to helping out the newer blood.

Big Troubles
06-17-2006, 09:26 AM
Originally posted by Mr Badguy
Yeah, but what about Sting, Goldberg and Wrestlemania IX?

He has started putting guys over recently (although The Rock and Shawn Michaels hardly needed it) but back in the day he held plenty of guys down.

If Vince had held onto him in 1994, WWE would have been out of business by now.


Its all about the promos...Goldberg ans Sting cant give a good promo UNLESS they are scripted. Hogan could set up a feud with a few short lines off the top of his head.

Even today, at his age Hogan is still a sought after prospect. That means something. Out of the 3, if all were available id still take the Hulkster brotha!

bueno bob
06-17-2006, 09:39 AM
Goldberg's biggest problem was that you couldn't work a script around him...he was very bare bones in so far as personality was concerned and getting him into meaningful feuds with heels (feuds that people would care about) proved problematic at best...which is basically why he spent 90% of his career duking it out with jobbers or mid-carders...

Sure, he was a one man wrecking crew, but that gets really boring after a while...hell, even Warrior got beat up by the people he feuded with while he was in the ring...

By all indications, Bill Goldberg thought that wrestling was REAL...he probably still does...

Mr Badguy
06-17-2006, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by bueno bob
Goldberg's biggest problem was that you couldn't work a script around him...he was very bare bones in so far as personality was concerned and getting him into meaningful feuds with heels (feuds that people would care about) proved problematic at best...which is basically why he spent 90% of his career duking it out with jobbers or mid-carders...

Sure, he was a one man wrecking crew, but that gets really boring after a while...hell, even Warrior got beat up by the people he feuded with while he was in the ring...

By all indications, Bill Goldberg thought that wrestling was REAL...he probably still does...

Yeah, but Bill was a draw.

Who cared if he couldn`t wrestle?

Hogan got over the same way, by being booked to beat everybody, and he couldn`t tell a wristlock from a wristwatch either.

Why can Hogan still claim to be the biggest ever draw in wrestling?

Because whenever he had the chance to undermine an up and coming guy who could`ve eclipsed him, either by hogging the spotlight or backstage politics, he took it.

Full Bug
06-17-2006, 06:41 PM
Anyone see that running jump DDT that Sabu did to Ray Misterio at One Night Stand? I'm amazed both of those guys were not hurt bad, that was sick.....

rustoffa
06-17-2006, 09:45 PM
Originally posted by Mr Badguy
Why can Hogan still claim to be the biggest ever draw in wrestling?

Because whenever he had the chance to undermine an up and coming guy who could`ve eclipsed him, either by hogging the spotlight or backstage politics, he took it.

Shane Douglas accused Flair of the same thing, BIGTIME.

That clip of Douglas throwing the NWA belt down is fucking GOLD.

Whaddya know? Here it is!!!
:D

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Big Troubles
06-19-2006, 09:23 AM
Goldberg drew according to who he wrestled. he never drew a dime on his own.

Hogan drew millions of viewers, made millions of dollars and increased the public image to any company he associated himself with. That makes him wrestlings ONLY true biggest draw.


Shane Douglas USED to be a great asset to ECW. But the reality of it all, is that Shane was best utilized there and ONLY there. Now he's the "franchise" by nickname only and seems to live off his past and steals the thunder from anyone he's around. Sad but true.

Big Troubles
06-19-2006, 09:25 AM
Originally posted by Full Bug
Anyone see that running jump DDT that Sabu did to Ray Misterio at One Night Stand? I'm amazed both of those guys were not hurt bad, that was sick.....

Bug, Sabu is the most amazing thing to happen to this new ECW. Im stoked to see him tear new asses on Rey, RVD, Cena, Edge and hopefully HHH down the line. He's still a hard worker. Sloppy at times, but he laid his body on the line like no other for so long. He deserves a good payday or 10!

Big Troubles
06-19-2006, 09:29 AM
Originally posted by Mr Badguy
If Vince had held onto him in 1994, WWE would have been out of business by now.

Probably so... Mainly because the good guy Hulkster would've tired to the point of no return. At least Bischoff can take some credit for being bold enough to turn Hogan when he did. But Hogan pulled off a good heel turn too! It was believable. And IF Hulk stayed in WWE in 94, we wouldn't have had, Austin, Survivor Series 97 screw job, DX, nWo, WCW as competition, an adopted ECW attitude era or possibly the Rock. He might still be Rocky Miavia with the faggy tassels.

Big Troubles
06-19-2006, 09:30 AM
and of course Flair would be wrestling Sting for the WCW title for the 100th time!!!! Ugh!

Full Bug
06-19-2006, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by Big Troubles
Bug, Sabu is the most amazing thing to happen to this new ECW. Im stoked to see him tear new asses on Rey, RVD, Cena, Edge and hopefully HHH down the line. He's still a hard worker. Sloppy at times, but he laid his body on the line like no other for so long. He deserves a good payday or 10!
Even more amazing is that he came back from a broken neck from that match with Chris Benoit in ECW....

Mr Badguy
06-19-2006, 04:06 PM
Originally posted by Big Troubles
Probably so... Mainly because the good guy Hulkster would've tired to the point of no return. At least Bischoff can take some credit for being bold enough to turn Hogan when he did. But Hogan pulled off a good heel turn too! It was believable. And IF Hulk stayed in WWE in 94, we wouldn't have had, Austin, Survivor Series 97 screw job, DX, nWo, WCW as competition, an adopted ECW attitude era or possibly the Rock. He might still be Rocky Miavia with the faggy tassels.

That`s the reason he does the job on occasion these days.

With no WCW there`s only one place for him to go to make big money: WWE.

There`s no more political bullshit these days from Hogan.

You do it McMahon`s way or you go to TNA or another indy.

And if you don`t do it McMahon`s way, then he`ll bury you like he has with Randy Savage (although Hogan could be something to do with that too).

Big Troubles
06-20-2006, 08:02 AM
Hogan has apparently inked a deal with Japan for several appearances- so that is one viable place. In fact they pay better than WWE. But I know what you mean.

The mid 80's were the best, in terms of having an alternative to watch. AWA, WCW/NWA, WWF, USWA, ECW, WCCW... Im sure Im missing more. Out of those I really enjoyed AWA when it aired on ESPN & WCW/NWA when Crockett ran it.

Big Troubles
06-20-2006, 08:05 AM
even tonite Bug. Between watching the Canes swipe the cup from under the Oilers last night, I watched Sabu do his run and balance on the top rope, then face buster Cena on the announce table. What a sight! Sabu sold the move like he landed on a grenade. Made Cena and himself look like the top players on Raw.

No Sandman last night though. :(


But I did see U-MAGA!

Full Bug
06-20-2006, 11:58 AM
Its too bad the WWE wont shell out the bucks to get Enter Sandman for Sandman, he just comes across as another nobody wrestler without that entrance....

scottydabodi
06-21-2006, 08:48 PM
On a side note, this whole ECW fiasco is like the 1996 VH reunion...

It's an f-ing DISASTER!!

F-Vince.

Anonymous
06-21-2006, 10:58 PM
Is ECW that bad? I mean, it was to be expected it would be somewhat a bit of crap, since Vince meant it to be family entertainment - which defeats its purpose quite a bit... how can it be "Extreme" and family oriented at the same time? - but I was still hoping it'd be at least somewhat interesting...

Well, let's look on the bright side... Vince has to die sooner or later, and WWE will probably end up in the hands of Triple H and his buddies Shawn Michaels, Ric Flair... :D

Cheers! :bottle:

Redballjets88
06-22-2006, 12:04 AM
ok what are Kevin Nash and Scott Hall doing these days

outsiders 4ever

1984dlrvh12
06-22-2006, 12:11 AM
who watches ecw?

Redballjets88
06-22-2006, 12:33 AM
i swear the greatest time in wrestling was WCW and NWO its was amazing

1984dlrvh12
06-22-2006, 02:09 PM
who thinks that dx will get all of the old members together or atleast some of them.

Vinnie Velvet
06-22-2006, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by 1984dlrvh12
who thinks that dx will get all of the old members together or atleast some of them.

I don't see DX getting back any past members.

Chyna is not coming back.

The New Age Outlaws (Road Dogg and Billy Gunn, now Kip and BG James in TNA) have publicly commented on their dislike of Hunter calling him an asshole, etc.

The only past member I could think who would have a chance at coming back to DX is X-Pac, since he was also a "Clique" member alongside HBK, HHH, Hall and Nash.

Mr Badguy
06-22-2006, 04:30 PM
Originally posted by Vinnie Velvet
I don't see DX getting back any past members.

Chyna is not coming back.

The New Age Outlaws (Road Dogg and Billy Gunn, now Kip and BG James in TNA) have publicly commented on their dislike of Hunter calling him an asshole, etc.

The only past member I could think who would have a chance at coming back to DX is X-Pac, since he was also a "Clique" member alongside HBK, HHH, Hall and Nash.

There was talk a couple of montha ago that Sean Waltman (X-Pac) would be resigning with WWE after appearing in TNA.

I wonder if he did.

Perhaps Monkeythe will know?

Redballjets88
06-22-2006, 06:40 PM
kevin nash = most awesome wrestler ever

1984dlrvh12
06-22-2006, 10:06 PM
it would be cool if x pac come back.

rustoffa
06-22-2006, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by Full Bug
Its too bad the WWE wont shell out the bucks to get Enter Sandman for Sandman, he just comes across as another nobody wrestler without that entrance....

:D

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Full Bug
06-22-2006, 11:43 PM
Originally posted by Redballjets88
kevin nash = most awesome wrestler ever

http://photobucket.com/albums/e396/Ter_/smileys/Happy/laugh4.gifhttp://oldtoolsforsale.com/smiley3/haha56.gif

Full Bug
06-22-2006, 11:50 PM
Originally posted by Redballjets88
ok what are Kevin Nash and Scott Hall doing these days

outsiders 4ever
Kevin Nash is in TNA, and Hall is under a table somewhere passed out....http://oldtoolsforsale.com/smiley4/drink27.gif
Seriously, Nash said last week he has been trying to get in touch with Hall for 2 months, but he isnt returning his phone calls, meaning Hall is on another bender....

Redballjets88
06-23-2006, 01:20 AM
Originally posted by Full Bug
http://photobucket.com/albums/e396/Ter_/smileys/Happy/laugh4.gifhttp://oldtoolsforsale.com/smiley3/haha56.gif

give me a reason that he isnt fucking awesome

Mr Badguy
06-23-2006, 08:06 AM
Originally posted by Redballjets88
give me a reason that he isnt fucking awesome

He`s about as awesome a "wrestler" as Sid Vicious.

He`s just a big guy who throws people around.

Not awesome on the mic, either.

Only his size made him a main event player.

He was the worst drawing WWE champion ever and was lucky that he was one of the guys involved in Bischoff`s groundbreaking NWO angle.

At least Scott Hall could put on a match (when he was straight), watching Nash "wrestle" thirty minutes would suck.

He`s nothing special.

Vinnie Velvet
06-23-2006, 08:49 AM
Originally posted by Full Bug
Kevin Nash is in TNA, and Hall is under a table somewhere passed out....http://oldtoolsforsale.com/smiley4/drink27.gif
Seriously, Nash said last week he has been trying to get in touch with Hall for 2 months, but he isnt returning his phone calls, meaning Hall is on another bender....

That sucks.

When Hall was straight, he put on some great matches.

It would've been cool to see a full-on complete Clique reunion in the WWE.

But that will never happen considering Hall blew his last chance in the WWE (2002).

Vinnie Velvet
06-23-2006, 08:50 AM
Originally posted by Mr Badguy
There was talk a couple of montha ago that Sean Waltman (X-Pac) would be resigning with WWE after appearing in TNA.

I wonder if he did.

Perhaps Monkeythe will know?

Yes, there was.

Though I haven't heard anything since then.

He's the only logical choice to join up with his old buddies HBK and HHH in DX.

Full Bug
06-23-2006, 10:32 AM
Originally posted by Redballjets88
give me a reason that he isnt fucking awesome
Everything Mr.Badguy said, plus the fact he may have been the worst booker ever in WCW, the guy booked himself as champ, and put himself over Goldberg, real bright move....

Redballjets88
06-23-2006, 01:25 PM
fuck all of that Nash is fucking awesome, he saved WCW with the NWO and is one of the all time greats

Mr Badguy
06-23-2006, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by Redballjets88
fuck all of that Nash is fucking awesome, he saved WCW with the NWO and is one of the all time greats

Whatever.

I don`t see him making the WWE Hall Of Fame anytime soon.

monkeythe
06-23-2006, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by Mr Badguy
There was talk a couple of montha ago that Sean Waltman (X-Pac) would be resigning with WWE after appearing in TNA.

I wonder if he did.

Perhaps Monkeythe will know?

There were rumors a while back but that is all they were. I just can't see Vince hiring someone that starred in a hard core porno movie.

Full Bug
06-23-2006, 11:10 PM
Originally posted by monkeythe
I just can't see Vince hiring someone that starred in a hard core porno movie.
Vince would hire Satan himself if he thought it would make him money....

POJO_Risin
06-23-2006, 11:14 PM
So any insights...I can't imagine DX just being 2 guys...

they'll need a tag team...

this is going to be fantastic...can't wait...

even though I can't fucking stand HHH...

Big Troubles
06-23-2006, 11:22 PM
Dx wont last.
This is nothing more than a quick rerun for quicker cash. They will not elevate anyone by having a younger guy join them. There wont be any former rejects re-joining the group. Waltman is under contract to MTV, Chyna went crazy, Billy Gunn & RoadDog just did a shoot interview with RF that killed ANY chance of working with HHH or for Vince again. I Heard there was going to be a program with Orton and HHH and i think Michaels is taking a break. (Plus he can't be all that comfortable doing that DX stuff)

Big Troubles
06-23-2006, 11:24 PM
That was an insight. Here's an opinion. I think Vince should talk to Brock Lesnar about a serious return. Anyone watch that crapfest called Smackdown?

And what was the reason the WWE fired Goldust?

POJO_Risin
06-23-2006, 11:30 PM
I don't know that there was a reason?...

I read that as well..and you'd think they'd have kept him with Dusty getting some attention...and with a future HOF induction...

no clue...

Isn't Michaels hurt?...

and Smackdown should just go away...it's fucking horrible...

Anonymous
06-23-2006, 11:33 PM
Originally posted by POJO_Risin
So any insights...I can't imagine DX just being 2 guys...

they'll need a tag team...

this is going to be fantastic...can't wait...

even though I can't fucking stand HHH...

Nitro and Melina are PERFECT for that DX business. Maybe Orton?

I hope Triple H and Shawn Michaels aren't doing this just for Vengeance... seems likely though.

Cheers! :bottle:

rustoffa
06-24-2006, 12:46 AM
Originally posted by Vinnie Velvet
When Hall was straight, he put on some great matches.


One thing's for sure, that dude could wrestle when he WANTED to. Classically trained, cuntplete with total disregard for the classic. HBK is on record: "He could have been the best EVER."

IMO, Nash relied on Hall....and it wasn't just setting up the Powerbomb. There was legitimate heat between Goldturd and Hall....he put the dipshit over through all of it. LMFAO...when Hogan dropped the belt to Goldturd...Hall set the table, fresh out of a supposed "rehab." I was there...like 30 rows back....from that far away, it was textbook lampooning. Slaps, schoolboy rollups, and a ridiculous Jackhammer.

A few months later, Hall almost knocked that dipshit's head off with a ladder.

This is going nowhere, not unlike Hall putting Luger in the abdominal stretch a few months later....that particular time, he reached for the bottle in favor of the ropes.

LMFAO.

1984dlrvh12
06-24-2006, 02:18 AM
whats happening on smackdown.or better yet is it even on because ive not heard anything about it in a while.

Full Bug
06-24-2006, 11:09 AM
Just for Redballjets88.....

One of pro wrestling's top behemoths is involved in Total Nonstop Action Wrestling's version of David and Goliath.

Kevin Nash recently returned to TNA for a feud with cruiserweight members of the promotion's X Division. Nash's first rival is promising youngster Chris Sabin, who he defeated on last Sunday's Slammivesary pay-per-view show thanks to the interference of fellow X-division wrestler Alex Shelley.

Nash's role has drawn criticism from hardcore fans that believe matching a 6-10, 320-pound superstar against considerably smaller grapplers hurts the standing of the high-flying X division, which is one of the few elements that separates TNA from World Wrestling Entertainment. Nash's squashing of cruiserweights as a performer and matchmaker at World Championship Wrestling in the 1990s, combined with his disparaging on-air comments about the X division on TNA Impact (11 p.m. Eastern, Thursdays and Saturdays, Spike TV), have added to that perception.

But in a recent interview, Nash listed some of the positive points about his desire to work with the X division.

"I'm limited with what I can do now," said Nash, referring to a litany of leg injuries dating back to his days as a college basketball player at Tennessee in the early 1980s. "I've always been limited, but I know the formula to having a good match with small guys. I can dance, but I need a good dance partner. If I'm going go out and doing this, I want to do it with the best."

Nash worried that his career was over after being forced to withdraw from last October's Bound For Glory pay-per-view show because of a legitimate heart scare. Nash said he has received a clean bill of health to continue performing.

"My father died having some issue that I thought I might have had," said Nash, 46. "I'm fine now."

While a feud against a larger TNA performer like Abyss would create an attractive in-ring visual effect, Nash said he also knows there are drawbacks in that kind of encounter.

"My only good big-man match I liked was with Undertaker (at Wrestlemania 12) because he's very mobile," Nash said. "But I think big man versus big man matches are like watching paint dry."

Although years removed from being a regular tandem, Nash is still frequently asked about the status of Scott Hall, who joined him as a charter member of WCW's highly successful New World Order in the mid-1990s. Nash doesn't seem keen on a reunion with the troubled Hall, who has faded from wrestling because of substance-abuse problems.

Nash seemed more enthused about the possibility of eventually serving as Shelley's bodyguard a la the role he played that helped elevate himself and Shawn Michaels to WWE main event status in the early 1990s.

"I'm real happy with my partnership (with Shelley) and I don't want to bring anyone else into that," Nash said. "I want to see how far we can go with this. I'm like Dracula. I need young blood around me to keep me going."

Nash has tried planning for his post-wrestling career through acting, with his latest appearance coming in the movie "DOA: Dead or Alive'' set for release in late August. Nash, though, said he is enthused about re-entering the grappling game.

"I'm excited again," Nash said. "I've been watching wrestling and tapes again. My mind is back into it. I'm having a good time and a lot of fun being around young guys who are so passionate. I remember when I was like that. This (TNA) is a good place to be."

Full Bug
06-24-2006, 11:13 AM
Even wonder why Kevin Nash doesnt wear tights? I wouldnt either with those skinny chicken legs....:D

bueno bob
06-24-2006, 11:51 AM
I always found Nash relatively amusing...he didn't particularly act well on the mic, but he came across as kinda down to earth and "real" about things, regardless of what side of the popularity fence he was on...

I always kinda appreciated that out of him.

Full Bug
06-24-2006, 12:11 PM
Hulk Hogan wrongly accuses man of theft, ruins his life, and doesn't even say he's sorry.
http://www.weeklyplanet.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid:63985

Full Bug
06-24-2006, 12:14 PM
Anorher thing to add to my list of reasons of why I hate Hogan.....

rustoffa
06-24-2006, 08:05 PM
Originally posted by Full Bug
Even wonder why Kevin Nash doesnt wear tights? I wouldnt either with those skinny chicken legs....:D

He blew one of his knees' out @ good 'ol Rocky Top....Rocky Top Tennessee.
:D

1984dlrvh12
06-24-2006, 09:44 PM
i know this is a bit late but can someone that watched ecw last week fill me in on it.

Full Bug
06-24-2006, 10:46 PM
Originally posted by 1984dlrvh12
i know this is a bit late but can someone that watched ecw last week fill me in on it.
I dont get it here, but you can get the rundown at this site.....
http://www.wrestlingobserver.com/wo/news/features/default.asp?aID=16621

1984dlrvh12
06-25-2006, 03:34 AM
somebody is getting fired next week on TNA.

monkeythe
06-25-2006, 03:40 AM
Originally posted by Full Bug
Hulk Hogan wrongly accuses man of theft, ruins his life, and doesn't even say he's sorry.
http://www.weeklyplanet.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid:63985

From that article:
"The Guevaras' lawsuit expresses the damage to Guevara in terms of a lost ability to work as a caregiver and loss of consortium with his wife."

If a judge signed an arrest warrant, how is this Hulk's fault. In addition, why is this man suing for losing the abiltity to work as a care giver since he still can and don't even get me started about the consortium with his wife charges. Does his wife picture The Hulkster when he tries to make love to her? Does he picture the Hulkster when he tries to make love to his wife. Hulk has been accused of many things, but this is the first time he has been accused of making a guy unable to fuck his wife

Mr Badguy
06-25-2006, 12:45 PM
Hey, I just bought the "Wrestlemania anthology".

32 discs, just over three days of viewing time.

Wonder when I`ll get to watch it all?

Worth it to see Brock fuck up that Moonsault at XIX.

It`s hard to believe that the mulleted Scott Steiner from 1993 and "Big Poppa Pump" are the same guy, in looks and in wrestling ability.

Big Troubles
06-25-2006, 01:17 PM
Originally posted by 1984dlrvh12
somebody is getting fired next week on TNA.

my guess would Larry ZAbYsCo!? Everything else TNA does (storyline wise) seems to be cut and dry, easy to plan out wrestling. I like Cornette, but I dont think TNA is going to be a passion. It'll be just another job. Cornette at his best was running SMW and managing "Camp Cornette" in 95/96.

Big Troubles
06-25-2006, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by Mr Badguy
Hey, I just bought the "Wrestlemania anthology".

32 discs, just over three days of viewing time.

Wonder when I`ll get to watch it all?

Worth it to see Brock fuck up that Moonsault at XIX.

It`s hard to believe that the mulleted Scott Steiner from 1993 and "Big Poppa Pump" are the same guy, in looks and in wrestling ability.

I have the Anthology as well. Its good for a collection sake.

Steiner vs Samoa Joe was surprisngly a pretty decent match. And in contrast Steiner vs HHH was a very horrible match.

1984dlrvh12
06-25-2006, 11:02 PM
if im not mistaking i think the crowd started chanting zabysco when he said someones getting fired. jeff isnt the champ anymore. no one is yet.

1984dlrvh12
06-25-2006, 11:36 PM
3 days of wrestling. wow. thats a long time lol.

Anonymous
06-26-2006, 12:46 PM
Originally posted by Mr Badguy
Hey, I just bought the "Wrestlemania anthology".

32 discs, just over three days of viewing time.

Wonder when I`ll get to watch it all?

Worth it to see Brock fuck up that Moonsault at XIX.

It`s hard to believe that the mulleted Scott Steiner from 1993 and "Big Poppa Pump" are the same guy, in looks and in wrestling ability.

I'm up to Wrestlemania X. The picture and sound quality is amazing. Even Wrestlemania I is kickass. They did a grate job restoring that old footage.

The only thing that bugs me is that in the Wrestlemanias of the 90's they blurred out EVERY single WWF logo. And I do mean EVERY symbol. The turnbuckles, the referee shirt... all blurred out. it's a visual mess.

You know, I absolutely loved Wrestlemanias I to IV, despite Hulk Hogan being the main event all the time... I miss those old days of "keep it simple, stupid". Only when I watched those I realized why I'm a HHH fan. The man keeps it classic. I also noticed he's 80% Ric Flair, not that he ever denied it.

Best all time match, in my opinion? Ric Flair vs. Randy Savage. It's not only a grate match it's also funny as hell... and it's the first time I saw a referee so pissed off at all the cheating and outside interference he actually KICKED Mr. Perfect when he's helping The Nature Boy get extra leverage for his Figure Four.
The most hilarious of all things though, is when Flair, after cheating every single moment of the match, accuses Macho of cheating because he grabbed his shorts when he was pinning him. Wonderful stuff.

Cheers! :bottle:

Fairwrning
06-26-2006, 06:54 PM
BUWHAAHHAAA


http://youtube.com/watch?v=BHTj7qfnTak

Full Bug
06-26-2006, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by Imapus Sylicker


Best all time match, in my opinion? Ric Flair vs. Randy Savage. It's not only a grate match it's also funny as hell... and it's the first time I saw a referee so pissed off at all the cheating and outside interference he actually KICKED Mr. Perfect when he's helping The Nature Boy get extra leverage for his Figure Four.
The most hilarious of all things though, is when Flair, after cheating every single moment of the match, accuses Macho of cheating because he grabbed his shorts when he was pinning him. Wonderful stuff.

I remember that match well, its a good one, I also remember that one well because I was at a bar the night it was on PPV and I picked up a SMOKIN gal that evening, great night all around, lol...
Speaking of Savage, did you hear he is going to be on The Surreal Life this coming season? Pretty sad, but being a huge Savage mark I will be watching that one for sure.....

Full Bug
06-26-2006, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by Fairwrning
BUWHAAHHAAA


http://youtube.com/watch?v=BHTj7qfnTak
Lex sucks, lol....
How ya been Fairwrning?:cool:

Full Bug
06-26-2006, 09:37 PM
Remember when Jake Roberts cobra bit into Savage's arm? That was so cool, I hear Randy was pretty freaked out by the whole thing....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EsuhUzXhXs&search=Jake%20the%20snake%20roberts

Full Bug
06-27-2006, 09:06 AM
How about when Jake Roberts DDT'd Ricky Steamboat on the concrete floor? I heard this really did knock Steamboat out, dont know for sure though, the DDT became my favourite move after seeing this....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xaf3Ovtyf2s&search=jake%20the%20snake%20roberts

Mr Badguy
06-27-2006, 07:30 PM
Here`s McMahon singing "Stand back" at the 1987 Slammys:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgrfelbX_so&search=vince%20mcmahon

Full Bug
06-27-2006, 07:42 PM
I laughed when I saw that on Raw last night, Savage and Jake Roberts 'playing' instruments, lol....
The impersonations of Vince and Shane by DX were pretty funny as well....

Mr Badguy
06-27-2006, 07:51 PM
THE SHOCKMASTER!

:rofl:

www.youtube.com/watchv=tCXDrKCJdw4&search=ric%20flair

Mr Badguy
06-27-2006, 07:54 PM
Sid breaks his leg.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lXfs6JuVq8&search=Vicious

rustoffa
06-27-2006, 09:09 PM
Originally posted by Mr Badguy
Sid breaks his leg.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lXfs6JuVq8&search=Vicious

Yeesh...it hurts just looking @ the link!

...right up there with Theisman.

1984dlrvh12
06-27-2006, 11:54 PM
man this sucks i missed raw last night.

1984dlrvh12
06-27-2006, 11:57 PM
that link is bad man it looks painful.