WWE Thread

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Originally posted by Big Troubles
Oh Jesus Christ, are you serious? I thought this "booking by Dusty" in TNA was just for on camera purposes. He's actualy got a say in booking talent and match finishes? Fak that's retarded. No wonder the son of a son of a plumber is winning matches again. :D

I have no problem with Dusty or Dustin as wrestlers. I have no problem with Dusty being labeled a "legend" in this business. He made money and brought fans in. I enjoyed the Goldust gimmick, in fact i loved the last run he had with Booker T in WWE. But bottom line- Dustin no longer is a money maker, especially just as Dustin Runnels. And for Dusty to have any power whatsoever is fucking absolutely mental. Jarrets and Panda entertainment are pissing their money away. Good bookers? Dutch Mantell. Steve Keirn. Even Kevin Sullivan with someone over looking him would be better than Rhodes.

Well its no wonder all the old timers are in the main event. That's fucked.
TNA needs Paul Heymen, its not like he is doing anything anyway, although I'm not sure if he is still under contract with WWE....Kevin Sullivan? Not sure about that one, although there has been worse bookers, Kevin Nash and Russo come to mind....

[monkeythe]

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Originally posted by Full Bug
Here's another one....

1. One of the most tasteless angles in history was Vince McMahon's blatant exploitation of the Persian Gulf war in 1990 and 1991. It went so far that Sgt. Slaughter went on TV and burned the American flag. At WrestleMania 7, Hulk Hogan represented "America" and won the WWF title for all Americans... or so the story went. Whom did Sgt. Slaughter defeat to win the WWF title in the first place, and who helped him win it?

Warrior lost due to Savage hitting him with the scepter

2. The same-sex wedding between Billy & Chuck wasn't necessarily "wrong," but the angle's bait-and-switch attitude sure was. WWE is no strangers to weddings, though. What hefty WWF grappler had an on-air wedding on the first ever NBC Saturday Night's Main Event in 1985?

Uncle Elmer was married on the SECOND SNME

3. The angle detailing the love affair of Mark Henry and Mae Young was just plain WRONG! And what a silly ending too. What did Mae Young eventually give "birth" to live on Raw?

I was at the Garden the night Mae & Marc gave birth to a hand

4. The death of Bruiser Brody will go down as wrestling's most infamous murder. Who committed this heinous crime?

According to the law in Puerto Rico no one committed a heinous crime. However, Invader 1 Jose Gonzalez was charged with the crime

5. WWF got in some hot water when Steve Austin pointed a gun to Vince McMahon's head in 1998 and threatened to shoot, as the crowd roared in approval. What happened when Austin pulled the trigger?

A sign "Bang 3:16" came out of the gun & Vince wet himself

6. Lots of critics complained when WWF interviewed Brian Pillman's widow, Melanie, right after Brian died in his hotel room. They not only did the interview so soon after the death, but they hyped it regularly throughout the show. Name two guys Brian tag teamed with regularly throughout his career.

Z-Man & Austin

7. Perhaps one of the worst decisions Vince McMahon ever made was not canceling the PPV after Owen Hart died. In what city did the tragic Owen hart death occur?

KC

8. Larry Zbysko got some heat when someone he was feuding with suddenly passed away from a drug overdose. Larry went on Nitro thereafter and said that he had some comments on that person, but in respect for his family, he wouldn't say them. Some took it as Larry not dropping a feud for storyline reasons, which shouldn't have mattered because jeez, the guy just died. What WCW mid-carder was Larry feuding with at the time?

Louie Spicolli

9. Jim Ross's Bells Palsy disease was not only openly mocked in WCW, but also in WWF while Ross was still there. What immoral jack-ass played this role and mocked JR's disease?

Ed Ferrara aka Oklahoma

10. In 1995, America was deeply engulfed in the case and trial of OJ Simpson. What wrestler tastelessly went on WCW television with a black glove and threatened everyone that we all know what people in black gloves are capable of?

Hogan

Last week I got 9 of 10, this week I should have them all. I'm like that Stump the Shwab guy from ESPN when it comes to wrestling

[monkeythe]

About Dusty Rhodes, while certainly a legend in it, he is responsible for booking Crocket into oblivion and almost destroying WCW a decade before its' eventual demise. As Tully was quoted after the Bunkhouse PPV, why doesn't Dusty just book himself against himself. Just like Vince Russo, Dusty accepts no blame when it comes to the death of Crockett. In his book, he blames the accountants and lawyers and claims not to have invented the Dusty finish. By the way, the book sucks except for a few good road stories. It just tells stories in a random maner and he reeats himself too many times because of the lack of structure to the book. In addition, there is waste of major parts of the book detailing his dream card booking Starrcade Prime (showing a prime example of Crockett is out of business and why GAB 91 is the worst PPV of all time) & a chapter of fans saying how great Dusty is and how he affected their lives.

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Dusty's book is likely the only wrestling book I have zero interest in reading, and I have read them all except the Hardy Boys book and Harley Race's (Havent found that one yet), I even read Hogans book only to see how many lies he tries to pull off, and he didnt dissappoint in that department....Worst book I ever read I think was Chyna's, damm that was bad....Best was Mankind's and Dynamite Kid's book...
I'm looking forward to reading Regal's upcoming book, I bet its got some great stories in there....

[Soul Reaper]

has anyone mentioned that Simon Dean idiot yet?

I only saw him once and I thought what a load of shit he was.

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Another problem I have with the WWE...

...the front row of the crowd trying to get 'involved'. It makes WWE look even more fake that it already is.

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Anyone like Jushin Liger?

[Three Lock Rock]

WRESTLING IS FOR GAY MEN.

NOT SURPRISED TO FIND THIS THREAD ON A DAVID LEE ROTH FORUM. NOT SURPRISED AT ALL.

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Originally posted by Soul Reaper
has anyone mentioned that Simon Dean idiot yet?
I only saw him once and I thought what a load of shit he was.

Anyone like Jushin Liger?
Simon sucks, thats why he hasnt been mentioned....
Jushin Liger is great, would love to see a match between him and Ray Misterio....Is he even wrestling anymore? Havent seen him since WCW....

[VHdamaco]

Originally posted by Three Inch Cock
WRESTLING IS FOR GAY MEN.

NOT SURPRISED TO FIND THIS THREAD ON A DAVID LEE ROTH FORUM. NOT SURPRISED AT ALL.

if your going to call us gay because we're posting on a david lee roth site, aren't you calling yourself gay?

professional wrestling is entertainment, something hagar doesn't provide. but i digress, im not going to turn this informative thread into a sam vs dave thread, those belong in main...

have you watched a whole episode of raw? or even seen a ppv? there is quite some cute ass on that show, christy hemme, trish stratus, and the list goes on and on...

stick to your gay hardocre porn and let us watch something really entertaining...

[Soul Reaper]

Originally posted by VHdamaco
stick to your gay hardocre porn and let us watch something really entertaining...

Kick his ass!

[Soul Reaper]

Originally posted by Three Lock Rock
VAN HAGAR IS FOR GAY MEN (LIKE ME, giggle)

NOT SURPRISED TO FIND MYSELF ON A DAVID LEE ROTH FORUM WHEN I CLEARLY HATE HIM. NOT SURPRISED AT ALL.

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The Rhodes family show their class once more....

Dustin Rhodes was arrested on Sunday and charged with misdemeanor battery after a fight with his girlfriend.

Rhodes went to court yesterday and was ordered to stay away from his girlfriend, stop the use of alcohol or narcotics, and maintain a separate residence.

We're told someone posted bond for him at $1,000 and he was able to get released.

Rhodes was not at TNA tapings yesterday but several sources have noted his girlfriend was there.

[monkeythe]

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CHRIS CANDIDO PASSES AWAY
by Mike Johnson @ 12:50:00 AM on 4/29/2005


TNA star Chris Candido passed away suddenly this evening in New Jersey. Candido, 33, had suffered a myriad of injuries to his ankle at the TNA Lockdown PPV last Sunday. He was said to have been in good spirits following surgery on Monday, where a metal plate and screws were inserted to fix a dislocated ankle, a broken tibia, and a broken fibula.

Candido had appeared at the TNA taping in Orlando, Florida this past Tuesday, just 24 hours after the surgery, managing the Naturals from a wheelchair to the NWA Tag Team championships. The episode is scheduled to air tomorrow on the Fox Sports Network.

It should be noted that the police department in Candido's hometown of Matawan, New Jersey would not confirm his passing.

TNA posted the following message on their website "TNA joins the entire wrestling world in mourning the untimely death of Chris Candido on Thursday."

PWInsider.com wishes to send our deepest condolences to the family, friends, and fans of Chris Candido

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http://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.asp?id=9962&p=1

CHRIS CANDIDO'S BROTHER COMMENTS ON CANDIDO'S PASSING AND CAUSE
by Mike Johnson @ 2:30:00 AM on 4/29/2005


Chris Candido's brother Johnny posted the following message on the USAProWrestling.net message board this evening:

"I find it only fitting you hear the truth from me about the death of my bestfriend, brother, and soulmate. Chris died tonight due to a blood clot brought on by complications with his surgery.

I just want to tell everyone that in their sorrow, find a way to be happy that he went out the way he wanted to...on top of the world, blonde, tan, and loving life up until the last minute. Every ounce of my brother loved this sport, and for him to go out 2 or 3 years ago wouldn't have been a fitting end to the life of such a determined, passionate, and benevolent human being.

I truly view my brother as an angel as will all who knew him. Thanks to everyone for all your positive press, Chris went out a happy man and will forever live on as the(one of) greatest of all time. He would have had it no other way."

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Holy shit, thats sad, only 33....Scary, thats how old I am....
He was a good wrestler....

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TNA star Chris Candido passed away suddenly Thursday evening in New Jersey. Candido, 33, collapsed on Thursday evening. He was rushed to the hospital but was not able to be revived.

Candido was said to have been in good spirits following surgery on Monday, where a metal plate and screws were inserted to fix a dislocated ankle, a broken tibia, and a broken fibula. He had suffered the injury this past Sunday while working the opener of the TNA Lockdown PPV in a freak accident while taking a dropkick from Sonny Siaki. Candido had appeared at the TNA taping in Orlando, Florida this past Tuesday, just 24 hours after the surgery, managing the Naturals from a wheelchair to the NWA Tag Team championships. The episode is scheduled to air today on the Fox Sports Network.

The grandson of Popeye Chuck Richards, who worked the undercards for the WWWF, including Terry Funk's Madison Square Garden debut, Candido grew up around the business, breaking in as a teenager, setting up rings in the New Jersey area with boyhood friend Balls Mahoney. The two would often put together and promote their own shows, even as teenagers, a generation before the term “backyard wrestling” was popularized. Candido and Mahoney would go on to train under Larry Sharpe at the Monster Factory.

Candido debuted working for the late Dennis Coraluzzo's WWA promotion in the early 1990s with the moniker "Mr. Charisma" holding their Junior championship. Candido was often accompanied to shows by his High School girlfriend Tammy “Sunny” Sytch, who would later break into the business after accompanying him to Smoky Mountain Wrestling. Whatever the intangible "it" is that creates a great performer, Candido had it from the second he began working professionally, having great matches and showcasing a knack for carrying less talented performers to good matches. He also developed strong mic skills, cutting great promos.

Candido worked the early days of Eastern Championship Wrestling, under booker Eddie Gilbert, where he held the ECW Tag Team championships with Johnny Hotbody as The Suicide Blondes. INXS' "Suicide Blondes" would remain Candido's theme until he returned to ECW in 1996, when he began using AC/DC's "Back in Black."

Candido left the fledgling ECW, then running once a month, to work full-time for Jim Cornette's SMW territory, where he worked singles as a crybaby heel. Candido debuted for the promotion busting out every high impact move he could think of to no reaction from the crowd. Cornette sent him back out during the same TV taping and instructed him to whine and complain about the first bump he took. He did so, and the crowd was on him immediately. Candido was later teamed with Brian Lee, with the pair managed by Sytch, who had moved with Candido to stay with him while he was working SMW and had been turned into an on-air feminist manager. He feuded with Tracey Smothers, Bobby Blaze, and The Rock N’ Roll Express, among others.

Candido won a tournament in November 1994 in New Jersey to win the vacant NWA championship, defeating Tracey Smothers in the final. Candido later dropped the belt to UFC star Dan Severn during an SMW house show. He was becoming a hotter name on the independents, booked against the other breakthrough indy names of the period like Sabu, Louie Spicoli, and The Tasmaniac (Tazz). After a tour of All Japan Pro Wrestling, Candido was signed by WWF in early 1995.

Sytch had already been signed, doing TV promo work under the name “Tamara Sytch.” Candido was linked with her once he was signed, briefly given the names "Chris and Tammy Power." The gimmick was scrapped after one TV taping. The pair were re-christened Skip and Sunny, The Body Donnas, doing a heel gimmick similar to the one currently held by Simon Dean, as evil fitness instructors, ripping on the poor condition of the "fat fans." Candido was used in an undercard role with no real sense of upward mobility, with the highlight of the run losing to longtime prelim wrestler Barry Horowitz on TV and then a PPV rematch at Summerslam ‘95. Sunny, meanwhile, was becoming the precursor to today’s WWE Divas, becoming a star as a heel female manager and TV personality for the company.

Dr. Tom Prichard was brought into the act and added as "Zip" (at one point it was going to be Flip) to the act. The pair won the WWF Tag Team championships at Wrestlemania 12 in Anaheim, California, holding them for a short stint and doing programs with The Smoking Gunns and The Godwins. Sunny broke off from the team, which briefly was managed by a transvestite character named Cloudy (Candido’s old friend Jimmy Shoulders, who he had broken into the business with). Candido suffered a broken neck while taking The Smoking Gunns finisher, The Sidewinder, in Madison Square Garden. When he recovered, WWF utilized him as a trainer and discussed retiring him and putting him in that position full-time. Candido, at that point just 23 years old, opted out, wanting to wrestle full-time.

Candido heading to Extreme Championship Wrestling, debuting to a standing ovation as a surprise during an October 1996 ECW Arena event, defeating Spike Dudley. Given the nickname “No Gimmicks Needed” as a play on his forgettable WWF character, Candido received his strongest national push ever as a member of the Triple Threat with Shane Douglas and Brian Lee (with Bam Bam Bigelow later replacing Lee). Behind the scenes, Candido began working with Paul Heyman on a number of backstage duties, including assisting with booking and television production. He had been scheduled to face Lance Storm on the debut ECW PPV, Barely Legal, but suffered a separated shoulder in the weeks leading to the show. The night before the PPV, Candido joked during a speech that he was killing himself just trying to keep up with 53 year old Terry Funk, who was in the main event of the show and was being honored by the company at a banquet.

Candido held the ECW World Tag Team championships with Lance Storm, with the duo breaking up while champions in December 1997. Tammy Sytch, who had been released by WWF, joined Candido in Extreme Championship Wrestling that summer. Once Sytch arrived, the change was immediate in Candido. The pair soon fell out of favor with Paul Heyman due to their personal problems, although he would bring them back several times before finally writing them off. Candido’s last run with ECW was early in the promotion’s run on TNN, where he was paired with Rhino as a tag team.

Candido and Sytch popped up in XPW in California, and began working a number of independent companies including USA Pro Wrestling in New York. After some back and forth wrangling with ECW over their contracts, the pair received releases and headed to WCW for a short run, which included Candido winning the WCW Cruiserweight championship and losing it during some nonsensical Vince Russo era booking. Candido did end up working with one of his heroes, Terry Funk. In a story that was recently recounted in Funk’s autobiography, the pair had a Hardcore match on Nitro where they had brawled into a horse’s stable, complete with the horse kicking Funk in the face in a story. Candido suffered a broken arm while working for the company, which upset then-WCW Executive Eric Bischoff. Candido ripped the cast off his arm so he could wrestle despite the injury, only to end up fired by the company anyway after an issue with Sytch backstage. Candido would later publicly say he regretted working hurt and wasn’t high on his time in the WCW.

By this point, Candido and Sytch’s reputations had been completely tarnished by their outside issues. Candido wasn’t shy in hiding he had gone through problems with painkillers and drugs in the period that followed while working independents, often joking about his past and cleaning up while appearing as a co-host for USA Pro promoter Frank Goodman’s hotline. A favorite story that was recited and referred to often on the hotline featured Candido ending up at a hotel where workers from Major League Wrestling were staying in Florida, wandering the halls bloody and incoherent.

Candido finally cleaned himself up to the point his matches began looking like the Chris Candido of old and little by little, promoters started to take notice. Sytch as well had cleaned herself up, began losing weight. She had publicly discussed becoming a flight attendant but later ended up running a tanning salon in New Jersey. Through it all, good and bad, the pair had remained together. Candido began helping advising many of the younger workers he was running into at independent shows, and broke his younger brother, Johnny into the business. The two worked a short program for USA Pro.

Over the last year or so, Candido looked as if he was following the success stories of Eddie Guerrero and William Regal in overcoming his issues and making a go of it with his career, as opposed to following the tragedies of Brian Pillman and Louie Spicoli. He was regularly working and having good matches for USA Pro, IWA Mid-South, the International Wrestling Cartel out of Pittsburgh, NWA Cyberspace, Pro Wrestling Unplugged and other companies.

Candido had tried hard to get a WWE tryout dark match at several points over the last year, and at one point was scheduled to work a Raw taping in Long Island, but it never came to pass. He finally hooked up with TNA through booker Dusty Rhodes, who was extremely high on him. He earned himself a regular slot after an excellent match with TNA flagbearer AJ Styles on Impact! Candido continued to have a string of decent matches, was co-hosting the syndicated Xplosion show and was cast as The Naturals’ advisor.

The injury at Lockdown, suffered while taking a Sonny Siaki dropkick, was horrible timing for Candido’s comeback but he still intended to make all his dates despite the injury. Sytch had posted on the USA Pro Wrestling message board that Candido still intended to make all his bookings, doing promos or managing at ringside, because he didn’t want to miss any dates. Candido had hoped to return to the ring within six weeks, which given the nature of the injury seemed to be unrealistic. Candido had told many that he was excited for the “ECW” weekend where he was scheduled to work the Hardcore Homecoming event being organized by Shane Douglas and Jeremy Borash. Candido had also privately discussed working the WWE organized ECW One Night Stand PPV, as he wasn’t signed to a TNA deal, which would have prevented that.

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This from Dave Meltzer.....

There are times when famous wrestlers pass away and everyone starts talking about what wonderful people they were, and sometimes, you almost have to bite your tongue. This is not one of those times.

Through thick and thin, through the bad times, and they were many, I don't think you'll find anyone arguing whether Chris Candido was a really nice guy. He made a comeback at a time when everyone in the industry had given up on him. He was recently brought into TNA just as a test to put people over, and wound up winning a roster spot and was liked by everyone. If the circumstances of his death that are stated are accurate, it is one of the greatest tragedies of all. Practically everyone in wrestling who was at death's door at one point in their lives will say or have their friends say that are reformed. As history has shown, the vast majority of the times, it isn't true. What a lot of people don't understand, is for the minority who it turns out to be true about, it is a daily battle, as some, like William Regal and Eddie Guerrero will openly talk about.

Chris loved pro wrestling, even though it came close to killing him at one point in his life. It was more living out his childhood dream than making money. I think he enjoyed it every bit as much when he was barely making ends meet than when he was under a six-figure contract. He was on the road right out of high school. He had a bright future. He squandered that future. But he was determined the end the story of his wrestling career on a high note and with respect of the people in the profession that he had at times let down. He was on the road to doing all that.

What happened is one of those things that happen in life. There is no rhyme nor reason. Life isn't fair. You can question all you want about a guy who fought back from something that most never come back from, but then suffered a fluke broken leg, and suddenly, with no warning, this happened. Chris was very excited about his future in wrestling, particularly because he was starting to escape from the shadow of his past. The 6/10 and potentially 6/12 (if he was to be allowed to participate) were huge deals for him, and whether he would be able to wrestle or not, he was excited to be part of them.

Candido's last pro wrestling appearance will air today on the TNA Impact show. I'm told they will do a tribute graphic for him on the show, I believe at both the beginning and the end of the show. Before the show started, Candido came up with his own angle, because in a cruel twist of irony, he had been in a wheelchair at a ruse for the last few weeks on television. Candido came up with the storyline that his real broken leg on Sunday was his karma for the ruse, which led to the tag team title change and what was told to me was the best Impact match in a long time. There was debate whether the match should air at all. Shane Douglas who was his best friend in the company, felt 100% certain Candido would have wanted it to air. So that was the decision.

No death of a people you know at a young age isn't sad in some form, whether you know them personally, or followed their lives simply watching them work from a young age. Many people followed Chris from when he was a very young man, and some since he was just a teenager But for many reasons, this one is harder than most. It's not just because it doesn't appear to have been self-inflicted, but because this was the phone call for years that many people feared we could get at any time. And just when we thought we knew it would never come, it came.

[rustoffa]

Bad news.

Old School ECW alum and 1/3 of the original Triple Threat. He was a really good wrestler, underrated.

I remember reports of he and Sytch (Sunny) going through drug problems or whatever.

I had heard he'd been sober for awhile....sad.

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The sad part to me is that he really seemed to get past the drug problem that seems to be the monkey on the back of most wrestlers, and it was a complication of a operation that had nothing to do with that in the end....
On the bright side he was with Sunny for many years, that would make me die with a smile....

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ANother good example of a good wrestler that WWE didnt use well and stuck the guy with a lame gimmick, too bad....

[POJO_Risin]

Hmmm...I don't check out this thread much anymore...but that is bad news...I had just read something somewhere within the past week that he was getting a serious look from the WWE...

unreal...another one bites the dust...

[Mr Badguy]

That is sad.

I was just watching him with the Naturals on TNA the other night.

I thought he was older than 33, he seemed to have been around for a long time.

One of the stranger deaths as no drugs were involved.

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This guy dies at 33 yet Jake Roberts is still alive and toking....Go figure....

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Sean Waltman writes about the passing of Chris Candido



I was informed last night that another friend is gone. I tried to start
writing this at the time, but was just unable to type the first word without
breaking down. I thought if I slept on it that it would be a little easier
today. I was wrong. So F*** it, I have to say good bye to you Chris. As hard
as it is for me, It's just as hard or maybe harder for so many others who
have gotten to know and love you through all of the years you have been in
our sport. As I continue to wipe the tears from my face & off this keyboard,
I can only imagine the pain Tammy and the rest of your family are feeling. I
am thinking about the first time we met at Dennis Corraluzo's show in Jersey
back in 1991. What were we? I guess 19 at the time. I remember how excited
about wrestling we were back then & I remember how you were just as excited
about wrestling & life when I saw you for the last time at the hotel in
Orlando Tuesday night. If you haven't noticed, I am doing alot of
remembering right now. Like the time I worked that guy in Clementon, NJ for
Dennis & Larry Sharpe and he came off the top while I was on the floor, his
bodyweight driving my head into the concrete floor damn near killing me. I
don't remember a thing but he was suppose to do the job for me, so he picked
me up by the "head" rolled me into the ring and somehow had me pin him as I
was out cold. You all were so pissed You threw his shit out of the building
and ran him out or something. Like I said, I don't remember anything until
waking up in the hospital. It was You and Tammy, Dennis & Glenn Ruth I saw
standing over me. I can't help thinking about the show we ran in Minneapolis
with Dennis. Terry Funk & Hawk, Myself & Sabu, You & Jerry Lynn, Tazz, Masa
Saito. Holy shit what a line up that was & that was pre ECW days. Well I
know alot of people thought Sabu & I had such a great match, but I have
always said the best match on that show was without a doubt You & Jerry
Lynn. Phyllis Lee was at that show. I believe that was the fist time you met
her. I say that because the last thing we did the other night was exchange
numbers, I called yours & you answered it "Phyllis Lee Fan Club". It was
funny to us. If most of the people reading this are wondering why I am
rambling on so much about such things, it's because I'm writing this to you,
not them. Damn, I could go on and on after nearly 15 years of knowing each
other. It was good to see You and Tammy at the XPW shows a few years ago. I
wasn't too good to see how bad we both were doing health wise at the time &
then I came back to TNA and there you were looking fresh and excited like
You did the first day I met you in New Jersey in 1991. Chris you did it. You
went out with people remembering a Chris Candido at his best. Obviously we
all will miss you. Please say hello to Curt, Hawk, Owen, Boss Man, Louie,
Joe C., The Great Malenko(who was like a father to me), and everyone else I
haven't named that you are probably standing right next to. I miss you all
very much. Peace be with you.

Your friend,

Sean Waltman

[Mr Badguy]

Any predictions for the draft lottery?

I say Angle to Raw, Christian to Smackdown!.

Also either Undertaker or Kane to move to the other brand to either set up a feud or alliance.

[Big Troubles]

Michaels to Smackdown
Christian to Smackdown
Kane to smackdown
possibly Jericho too.

Dudleys to Raw
Big Show to Raw
JBL to Raw

[Mr Badguy]

I hope they do more than five picks each this time.

The rosters could do with a bigger shake up.

Are the Dudley`s still under contract at WWE?

They`ve disappeared up their own arses.

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by Mr Badguy
I hope they do more than five picks each this time.

The rosters could do with a bigger shake up.

Are the Dudley`s still under contract at WWE?

They`ve disappeared up their own arses.

they are in OVW awaiting their call. Which rumor has it, wont be until the draft and/or the ECW PPV.

Id like to see a solid 20 man roster mix up. 10 from each brand. If they do too many it will only just be the smackdown roster going to Raw and Raw to smackdown. lol That would be fucked up.

[monkeythe]

Sean Waltman is a fucking asshole. How come in his letter of remembrance he doesn't mention how him & his clique buddies held Candido down. How does Sean get a PPV main event win over Monty Brown when his most recent TV appearance prior to the PPV featured him being afraid of the asswhupping he was about to receive from Da Brat.

[Soul Reaper]

Yet again the WWE ruin a good wrestler...Matt Morgan.

He has a stuttering gimmick.

WWE are pathetic!

[Mr Badguy]

Originally posted by Soul Reaper
Yet again the WWE ruin a good wrestler...Matt Morgan.

He has a stuttering gimmick.

WWE are pathetic!

Didn`t they try that with Goldust before?

[Soul Reaper]

i think so.

it seems that desperate times call for desperate measures for the WWE.

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Originally posted by Mr Badguy
Didn`t they try that with Goldust before?
I think it was Bubba Ray Dudley....

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Last week's quiz answers:

-Sgt. Slaughter beat Ultimate Warrior for the WWF title at Royal Rumble '91, with help from Randy Savage.

-The first WWF wedding was with Uncle Elmer in 1985 on NBC.

-Mae Young gave birth to a hand.

-The suspect in Bruiser Brody's murder was Jose "Invader I" Gonzales. There is no justice in this world.

-When Austin pulled the trigger on McMahon, a flag popped out with the word "BANG!" on it. Vince also peed his pants.

-Brian Pillman teamed with Tom Zenk, Steve Austin... oh God I'm drawing a blank. It's early Monday morning. The people who got this one correct named those 2 guys, but there are a couple others.

-Owen Hart died in Kansas City.

-Larry Zbysko was feuding with Louis Spiccoli.

-Ed Ferrara mocked Jim Ross on Nitro. Jim Cornette made sure Ed paid for that one.

-Hulk Hogan compared himself to OJ on Nitro in 1995, during his very brief heel turn tease

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1. Cyndi Lauper is credited with playing a huge role in garnering lots of publicity that helped make WrestleMania 1 a success, and Hulk Hogan, Roddy Piper, and Capt. Lou Albano household names. What wrestler did Lauper manage during her initial WWF stint?

2. Using the same formula, WWF used Mike Tyson as a special "outside" enforcer in the main event at WrestleMania 14, which pitted Steve Austin vs. Shawn Michaels. Which of the following is true:

A. Tyson entered the match a face, and left the match a heel

B. Tyson entered the match a face, and left the match a face

C. Tyson entered the match a heel, and left the match a face

D. Tyson entered the match a heel, and left the match a heel

3. Speaking of Tyson, WWF tried to sign him as a guest referee back in 1990 for an NBC Main Event program, but decided against it. Who did they go with instead, and why?

4. Jay Leno cracked jokes about how phony wrestling was all the time, and what losers celebrities were who got involved in it. But sure enough, there was Leno main eventing WCW Road Wild against Hogan & Bischoff in 1998. What a damn phony Jay is. On the "Tonight Show," Leno introduced the 2 guys who trained him for the match, and called them, "Chris & Erik." But Chris & Erik are no strangers to wrestling fans, especially in 1990s WCW. What are Chris & Erik's last names? (Hint: they both have long, dark hair)

5. Which of these celebrities has NEVER been to a WrestleMania?

A. Bob Uecker

B. Mary Hart

C. Alice Cooper

D. Ozzy Osbourne

E. Liberace

F. Gene Simmons

G. Salt N' Peppa

H. Drowning Pool

I. Aretha Franklin

J. Ray Charles

K. Mr. T

L. Mike Tyson

M. Pete Rose

N. Donald Trump

O. Morton Downey Jr.

6. Which of these pro athletes has NOT ever done a wrestling angle or TV appearance?

A. Kevin Greene

B. Lawrence Taylor

C. Dennis Rodman

D. Karl Malone

E. Reggie White

F. Magic Johnson

G. James "Buster" Douglas

H. Lennox Lewis

I. Mike Tyson

J. Shaquille O'neal

K. Steve McMichael

L. William "Refrigerator" Perry

7. Former Chicago Bulls and Stanford Cardinals player Brad Muster was a big NWA fan. Namely, he was a huge fan of one wrestler in particular, and always wore his shirt under his jersey. He was even front row at Chi-Town Rumble '89 sitting right next to his good friend Dave Meltzer. What wrestler did Muster idolize?

8. Rapper Master P was involved in a very forgettable angle in WCW in 1999 that flopped big-time. Curt Hennig did his best to make it entertaining, by coming up with a humorous song that all his "rednecks" could relate to. What was the name of Hennig's song?

9. Deceased Kid Rock sidekick Joe C. did some annoying backstage skits on the Raw episode Kid Rock performed on. He even told 2 wrestlers to "Go F#&$ yourselves!" What 2 guys did Joe C. make that remark to?

10. Finally, how did the WrestleMania 5 skit between Roddy Piper and Morton Downey Jr end?

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by Full Bug
I think it was Bubba Ray Dudley....

both... remember Goldy was electrocuted by being pushed into some breakers... :D Terrets though maybe?

either way I think Matt Morgan is doing a horrible job at playing a stuttering person.

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by monkeythe
Sean Waltman is a fucking asshole. How come in his letter of remembrance he doesn't mention how him & his clique buddies held Candido down. How does Sean get a PPV main event win over Monty Brown when his most recent TV appearance prior to the PPV featured him being afraid of the asswhupping he was about to receive from Da Brat.

Thats not Seans fault. That's the genius of TnA's booking. Dont hate the player. Hate Dusty Rhodes. Waltman should be back in WWE in 4 weeks. Mark my words. He'll return as a face.

[rustoffa]

Originally posted by Full Bug
I think it was Bubba Ray Dudley....

That was Bubba's original gimmick in ECW as well. I remember reading Vince really liked it and insisted on bringing him in like that. It's weird, Bubba evolved from the stuttering gimmick to arguably the best Heel mic-man in ECW history.

Heatwave 99:

"You people are nothing but lower-class pieces of fucking garbage, and if we had the time, we'd come out there and kick everyone of your asses. I mean let's have a look at you people....we got a faggot in a hawaiian shirt ...a mom (mother and daughter in front row) that taught her daughter how to suck dick (major heat)....and some skankasaurus that's gonna take 12 inches of black dick so far up her ass she won't know what hit her...." he then proceeded to engage some fat dude in the front row, snatch the guy's beer beside him and dash it in his face. Not satisfied, he went to the mom and her daughter insisting the mother hit him in the mouth. The mother spit on him, he spit back on her, then proclaimed "you're nothing but a couple of five-dollar-an-hour fucking whores!"

Vince needs to turn that dude loose!

:D

[scottydabodi]

Buh Buh is just awesome on the mic... I remember one time at "The Madhouse of Extreme" in 1997, Buh Buh pointed at a chick in the audience and said her pussy stank so bad he could smell it all the way in the ring, which prompted a "We smell TUNA!" chant from the out of control crowd!!! HAHAHAHAAA!!!!!!!!!

[monkeythe]

10 for 10 last week, I pretty sure you stumped the schwab on #7, but since you got the info wrong on Muster, he was a Bear not a Bull I'm not counting the question:

1 - Wendi Richter
2 - C - he entered a heel and left a face
3 - Buster Douglas, recently beat Tyson
4 - Chris Kanyon & Erik Watts
5 - F - Gene Simmons
6 - F - Magic Johnson
7 - I'm going to guess the Road Warriors or Flair, but since you got the question wrong I'm not counting it against the Schwab
8 - Rap is Crap
9 - Edge & Christian
10 - Piper used a fire extinguisher on Downey. Brother Love was also part of the segment.

[Fairwrning]

Lita's tit's looked awesome tonight..wow..

[rustoffa]

Originally posted by scottydabodi
Buh Buh is just awesome on the mic... I remember one time at "The Madhouse of Extreme" in 1997, Buh Buh pointed at a chick in the audience and said her pussy stank so bad he could smell it all the way in the ring, which prompted a "We smell TUNA!" chant from the out of control crowd!!! HAHAHAHAAA!!!!!!!!!

:D

Who can forget the equally classic "She's a Crack Whore" chants?

[scottydabodi]

TAZ IS GONNA KILL YOU!! TAZ IS GONNA KILL YOU!! TAZ IS GONNA KILL YOU!!!
ECW tickets go in sale May 14th!!!!!

AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[rustoffa]

You going?

The lineup looks questionable.

Maybe they'll turn it into the long-awaited invasion angle?

[Vinnie Velvet]

Originally posted by Big Troubles
Michaels to Smackdown
Christian to Smackdown
Kane to smackdown
possibly Jericho too.

Dudleys to Raw
Big Show to Raw
JBL to Raw

It'd be good for HBK to go to Smackdown. At least he'll have a better chance of winning a title and keeping it for a while other than on RAW where HHH has it for the better part of a year.

One thing I noticed: HBK's new ring atire. Why the pants? And notice how thin Micheals is nowadays. Not ever the biggest wrestler in his prime, but at least he had a good physical build.

[Full Bug]

--Candido's funeral was today. Among those who attended were Dixie Carter, Jeff Jarrett, Terry Funk, Howard Finkel, Jeremy Borash, Bob Ryder, Scott D'Amore, Shane Douglas, Billy Gunn, Sonny Siaki, C.M. Punk, Rob Feinstein, Steven DeAngelis, Sandman, Sabu, Terry Taylor and many of the names listed above. Tammy Sytch was described as very strong and smiling most of the time, giving winks and hugs to those who were said. It was reported as a nice touching service with one of the NWA tag team tilte belts draped over the casket during the mass. TNA offered the belt if the family wanted to bury Candido with it due to his love for wrestling.
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Nice touch....

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by Full Bug
--Candido's funeral was today. Among those who attended were Dixie Carter, Jeff Jarrett, Terry Funk, Howard Finkel, Jeremy Borash, Bob Ryder, Scott D'Amore, Shane Douglas, Billy Gunn, Sonny Siaki, C.M. Punk, Rob Feinstein, Steven DeAngelis, Sandman, Sabu, Terry Taylor and many of the names listed above. Tammy Sytch was described as very strong and smiling most of the time, giving winks and hugs to those who were said. It was reported as a nice touching service with one of the NWA tag team tilte belts draped over the casket during the mass. TNA offered the belt if the family wanted to bury Candido with it due to his love for wrestling.
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Nice touch....

rob feinstein? im surprised he's not in jail. Prichard will prob be there as well eh?

[Vinnie Velvet]

What was the cause of his death?

Another wrestler dies at such a young age.

[monkeythe]

Originally posted by Vinnie Velvet
What was the cause of his death?


Blood Clot from ankle surgery for injury he suffered at the TNA PPV

[Vinnie Velvet]

That sucks.

[Big Troubles]

Holy Batshit! The Hardcore Homcoming' event is completely sold out! $100,ooo gate. Not too shabby, considering they spent next to nothing in advertising, using their own websites to push hard for it and I believe TnA is blurbing it- during their shows.

The next near EcW reunion show will be the WWE's version called "One Night Stand" featuring all former ECW wrestlers- some that arn't under contract. Sabu, Funk, CW Anderson, Roadkill...

http://www.1wrestling.com/news/newsline.asp?news=22598

[Full Bug]

I cant believe Sabu is still wrestling, that guy is nuts....

[Big Troubles]

I only hope they do something cool with him at their ECW ppv. 3 way with Tazz and RVD would be cool. :cool:


Just read the possible revenue for WWE on this ECW PPV. I think it was $6 million. Is that sick or what? Shit. What did Vince pay for EcW? Like $2 mill?

[rustoffa]

It'd be great if Jericho did a bitter "Lionheart" dealio....just full-on "I made ECW" type shit.

Benoit could have a problem with that statement, etc.

Then Guerro comes out, then Melenko.....LMFAO.

All those fuckers standing in that little ring.....

Then Super Crazy walks out......mayhem ensues.

It'll never happen.

[Big Troubles]

That's actualy a cool scenario. Jericho and Melenko had good matches in EcW. I read Vince is bringing in Essa Rios, Pscicosis and Super Crazy to full time roster positions. (Prob on Smackdown where they can be used properly) Theres a rumor about Juventud too.

[Big Troubles]

BTW, Rustoffa! Happy fuckin' Birthday you SOB you! :D Party hard-

[Full Bug]

I hope WWE doesnt screw up this ECW show, god knows they have screwed up giftwrapped things before, like the WCW Invasion....

[rustoffa]

Originally posted by Full Bug
I hope WWE doesnt screw up this ECW show, god knows they have screwed up giftwrapped things before, like the WCW Invasion....

The original ECW invasion was pretty weak as well.

[Vinnie Velvet]

Originally posted by rustoffa
The original ECW invasion was pretty weak as well.

Yeah, no kidding, as was the whole WCW invasion that went along with it.

Come to think of it, Vince even screwed the whole nWo angle as well.

It started well, but wasn't handled very well.

Maybe its because it wasn't possible to keep Hogan heel for very long because of all the big pops he was getting.

[rustoffa]

Originally posted by Vinnie Velvet
Yeah, no kidding, as was the whole WCW invasion that went along with it.


Not that one, the one from 1997.

The 1997 ECW invasion angle of the WWF.

With a lot of rumors and hopes popping around about a possible ECW invasion into the WWF, I thought it would be a perfect time to look back on the FAILED Extreme Championship Wrestling invasion of the World Wrestling Federation, which was tried in 1997.

In the Spring of 1997, the declining WWF and the rising ECW got together, and decided that they oddly had a common enemy: WCW. The WWF hated WCW due to nasty competition through the Monday Night Wars, and ECW hated WCW because of the dirty talent raid in 1995, where many Luchadores and wrestlers like Chris Benoit and Dean Malenko were swiped up. So hey, why not get together and attack WCW? Why not? That was the plan, although it didn't quite work out.

ECW was especially eager to do this for the fact that they had their first Pay Per View coming up, Barely Legal, which you can now purchase in your local video stores (please do it!). The WWF was quite eager because their current product was weak and besides a few promising points (early Stone Cold stuff), they were getting their tails whipped on Monday Nights. Invasion was the plan, but all they needed was a spark or a way to handle this to get the fans talking!

A big problem, to start with, was that ECW was STILL an underground movement, really. They ran on the infomercial system, and didn't dare move off the East coast for shows. If you didn't read about ECW in the magazines, why would you care to see them on television? For that, it would give the appearance that the WWF was weaker than a small independent federation by being invaded. Although the WWF was getting pounded in 1997, the majority of the wrestling fans at least knew who the top wrestlers were or what channel RAW was on. The majority, however, couldn't tell you who was in ECW at that time, unless they took a lucky guess about Terry Funk or Shane Douglas.

The early angle started when Jerry "the King" Lawler began to talk stuff on ECW, as he saw some "marks" in the crowd. He made a cheap comment towards them, and you could only figure it would get worse the next week. Well, it did. Lawler ended up making more comments, to which he challenged the whole federation to invade the WWF. Many might think that all of the WWF bashing by Shane Douglas or whoever else was part of the angle, but those were just real life shoots.

ECW invaded RAW, which was oddly in a much smaller venue than previous RAWs (in the Manhattan Center). The arena was filled with ECW marks to make sure they cheered for the many wrestlers the MAJORITY of fans didn't recognize, and ECW wrestlers showcased their talents by wrestling most of the matches. If you watched ECW, like I did, it was quite a pleasant show to watch. However, if you never saw ECW, you would be confused and possibly turn it back to Nitro. It did show in the ratings, but not by a significant margin as hoped. Well, the previous week was a 2.1, and the ECW invasion angle was rated with a 2.5. That's not too bad, but the 1.9, the week after, didn't help. (Thanks to Historian for the ratings info)

But that was more of a shill for the Pay Per View, Barely Legal. The real fun began when Rob Van Dam kept insisting that he'd show up on either Nitro or RAW. It actually angered fans to shout "You Sold Out" during his matches, although he was always in ECW's pocket the whole time. To steam up the angle, RVD began showing up on RAW, and he even defeated the recent IC champion Jeff Hardy in an one on one match! RVD would wrestle a few matches, and even join up with Jerry Lawler, the one who originally called on ECW, for some tag matches. However, the angle was falling apart as each week went by. Rob Van Dam apparently rubbed WWF officials, backstage, the wrong way with his attitude. Back then, the WWF was looking to rid the backstage of any headcases that plagued the WWF in 1995 and 1996. Locker room morale was apparently down during those years, making for a struggling and unified product. So the WWF told ECW that they didn't want to use Rob Van Dam anymore, and RVD hasn't been seen there since!

But the WWF then went used Sabu to put over the "angle". Sabu came in and fought Flash Funk, who wasn't exactly in prime shape back then. Sabu put on a terrible match with Funk, in which he missed many spots and failed to break a table 2 times, until finally breaking it on the 3rd try. Now, whether that's Funk's fault or Sabu's fault, Sabu wasn't asked back to the WWF after that match, and it would be the last you'd see any of this invasion in the WWF, except for the Chris Candido vs. Brian Christopher match, which made a USWA vs. ECW feud.

However, in ECW, it was the main angle going on. Jerry Lawler invaded ECW, and with the help of RVD and Sabu, he abused the Sandman and Tommy Dreamer, the two symbols of ECW. Especially Dreamer, who Lawler would wrestle at the 2nd ECW Pay Per View. Dreamer would win that, despite some surprises of other WWF personalities, like Sunny. Before this match, though, Taz(z) would get a hold of Lawler, and he once made the King tap out, quite loudly, to the Tazmission during a stupid Triple Threat angle. Ironically, Lawler would slap around Tazz, years later, during their angle in late 2001.

That was the last real interesting thing the ECW and WWF feud produced. Now, you'd later see guys like Brakkus, a WWF developmental wrestler who just disappeared a few years ago, and guys like Doug Furnis and Philip Lafon would do the lame WWF angle as well. Then, you'd get Taz burning WWF shirts, and ECW just always ripping on the WWF whenever they could. It actually HURT ECW, because they no longer focused on the individual wrestlers themselves, but for a silly angle that the other end stop doing.

Now this was NOT a history of any kind, so don't jump on me if I got a detail wrong or not. My whole point of this argument is that an ECW invasion, especially today, does not or will not work against a well known federation, like the WWF. ECW, although they have been doing Pay Per Views and travelling more throughout last year, are still no where near as known as the WWF. Their wrestlers, too, are much smaller in size than any in the WWF, as proven by Tazz. What could they do for an invasion? Attack the jobbers who wrestle on Jakked? That's about as much as a so-called ECW invasion would or should amount to.

My real point is that instead of cheering for an ECW invasion of the current WWF, which won't happen against the much stronger and larger WWF superstars, you should be glad that any former ECW wrestler is getting offered a job within the WWF, whether it's for WCW or the WWF. Just let the former ECW develop and showcase their talents, and then allow them to break out of their ECW shells and become well known superstars.... just like the Dudley Boyz did.

link (http://mrtitopdc.tripod.com/april22_2001.htm)

[Vinnie Velvet]

Oh yeah. Now I remember the one from 1997!

It was a difficult time for the WWF with the nWo and WCW beating them in the ratings on Monday Nights.

So yeah, ECW and WWF had a common enemy in WCW.

[Full Bug]

Dusty Rhodes just resigned earlier today as TNA booker when informed by Dixie Carter that they were going to a committe booking format. Rhodes was at a meeting earlier today with Bill Banks, Jeremy Borash, Scott D'Amore and Dixie Carter when he was told about the change. He will be staying on as a television character and at this point the belief is he'll remain the public Director of Authority on the shows.
---------------
About time, I cant believe they made him a booker in the first place....

[Vinnie Velvet]

Hey Bug, do you think TNA will come up and be as big as WCW once was in terms of competition with the WWE?

I think that's probably the problem with WWE right now. Stale storylines and sub par PPV's may be due to that fact that there is no competition anymore.

I think with some stiff competition for the WWE, you'll get better storylines and more exciting PPVs.

It was so much fun to watch the whole Monday Night wars from at least 1996 to 1999.

[Full Bug]

Originally posted by Vinnie Velvet
Hey Bug, do you think TNA will come up and be as big as WCW once was in terms of competition with the WWE?

No way, they dont have the kind of money to compete the way WCW did, they had Ted Turner to backroll everything, a shame really, competition is good for the business....

[Big Troubles]

TnA will never be as big as the WWE. :D

and here's the reason:

[Big Troubles]

I preordered my dvd for Road Warriors (a wwe release in June) and pre ordered my copy of WWE Stars of the 80's'...

[Vinnie Velvet]

Originally posted by Full Bug
No way, they dont have the kind of money to compete the way WCW did, they had Ted Turner to backroll everything, a shame really, competition is good for the business....

I heard that Ted Turner was trying to set up another promotion.

It may be just a rumour, but I thought it was interesting nonetheless.

[Vinnie Velvet]

Originally posted by Big Troubles
TnA will never be as big as the WWE. :D

and here's the reason:

Yeah, no doubt.

It was Hogan that made WCW into a bigger draw than what they were before he came.

But moreso when they did the whole nWo thing when Hall and Nash came aboard.

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by Vinnie Velvet
It was so much fun to watch the whole Monday Night wars from at least 1996 to 1999.

Hell yes! The Monday night wars were pretty intense...always was a toss-up as to who was going to have the best show...either Raw was Bore or Nitro ran outta fuel... :) Never could tell.

[scottydabodi]

I just saw the DUMBEST thing ever on wrestling...
Kurt Angle wants to have freaky sex with Booker T's wife?!?!?

SHEEESH!!!!!

[rustoffa]

Originally posted by bueno bob
Hell yes! The Monday night wars were pretty intense...always was a toss-up as to who was going to have the best show...either Raw was Bore or Nitro ran outta fuel... :) Never could tell.

Yeah, the recall button on the remote....

Kinda sucked when MNF was in the mix...not the NFL, just the remote control logistics.

Anyway, luck was on my side one night as "Nitro" was going to commercial. For whatever reason, I held off on the recall click during this weird camera-pan shot...like backing away from the ring.

*BOOM*

There it was....a sign on live television.

"GOLDBERG FEARS HITLER"

On a lighter note, go to this site (http://www.roydmercer.com/main.htm) then click on "speed dial". Scroll over the numbers on the pad and "Goldberg" will show up in the info window.

Listen to it and laugh your fucking ass off.

[Vinnie Velvet]

Originally posted by scottydabodi
I just saw the DUMBEST thing ever on wrestling...
Kurt Angle wants to have freaky sex with Booker T's wife?!?!?

SHEEESH!!!!!

What???

Man, storylines really suck with WWE these days.

[Full Bug]

Who was it here who was hoping Sting would come to the WWE? Big Troubles I think, looks like that aint happening....

Sting was on TBN last night and said that his time as The Stinger is over, and talked about speaking at churches and other Christian events.

[Soul Reaper]

I read this in Power Slam magazine

Mick Foley says:

'I have an idea for Hell In A Cell in 2008: I've spoken to Vince about (a match) where I would team up with The Undertaker for the tenth anniversary of our (famous Hell In A Cell match at King of The Ring 1998) against two young guys. Maybe it would be something like a tag team or a faction who are going through everyone, and the only force that can stop these guys is The Undertakerand his mystery partner - who would turn out to be me.'

'We could demand to face these guys in a Hell In A Cell, almost exactly ten years after me and The 'Taker had our match at King Of The Ring. I think it would be really neat.'

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by Full Bug
Who was it here who was hoping Sting would come to the WWE? Big Troubles I think, looks like that aint happening....

Sting was on TBN last night and said that his time as The Stinger is over, and talked about speaking at churches and other Christian events.

drag. well I hope Vince and co. use Sting in a way where he could say thank you and so long to his fans. The same way they want Bret too. That would be cool.

[Soul Reaper]

Sting is coming to WWE?

as the Stinger or The Crow Sting?

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by Soul Reaper
Sting is coming to WWE?

as the Stinger or The Crow Sting?

neither at this time. BUT IF, this were to happen, I imagine it would be the "Crow" gimmick.

[Full Bug]

Originally posted by Big Troubles
drag. well I hope Vince and co. use Sting in a way where he could say thank you and so long to his fans. The same way they want Bret too. That would be cool.
Since he hasnt ever appeared on WWE TV I really cant see that happening....

[Vinnie Velvet]

Originally posted by Soul Reaper
I read this in Power Slam magazine

Mick Foley says:

'I have an idea for Hell In A Cell in 2008: I've spoken to Vince about (a match) where I would team up with The Undertaker for the tenth anniversary of our (famous Hell In A Cell match at King of The Ring 1998) against two young guys. Maybe it would be something like a tag team or a faction who are going through everyone, and the only force that can stop these guys is The Undertakerand his mystery partner - who would turn out to be me.'

'We could demand to face these guys in a Hell In A Cell, almost exactly ten years after me and The 'Taker had our match at King Of The Ring. I think it would be really neat.'

I hope they don't do this.

I mean, the whole Hell in a Cell gimmick has been diluted far too much in the years since the debut between HBK and Undertaker in '97 and then the one with Mankind and Taker in '98.

Those two are classics. And Mick can never top the crazy ass shit he did in the '98 match. I remember watching it and thinking, "Holy Shit!! This guy has got to be dead after that fall!"

Yup, the infamous drop from the top of the cage right on to the announce table.

Foley was really a guy who would go out of his way to get the big bumps. But that one was unreal.

What made it even more mind-boggling is when Mick came back after being carried off on stretcher to take another pounding from Taker.

[Don Corleone]

Speaking of Taker, has anyone seen him since Wrestlemania?

[Soul Reaper]

i don't know. hopefully he won't be dropped into shitty storylines again. That JBL one annoyed the hell out of me.

and by the way, do you know of any wrestling marks (people who think wrestling is real)?

[rustoffa]

Originally posted by Big Troubles
neither at this time. BUT IF, this were to happen, I imagine it would be the "Crow" gimmick.

Hahaha....those fake NWO Stingcrows were the shit!

[Full Bug]

Time for another quiz....

1. Once known as Sterling Golden, Terry Bollea went on to become the greatest drawing card in wrestling history as Hulk Hogan. What name was Hogan called for his cameo in Rocky III?

2. Taking it one step further... what was Hogan's ring name in his own movie, "No Holds Barred?"

3. Everyone remembers HHH in WCW as Jean Paul Levesque. But before that, he was called something else. What was he called?

4. Ahh, so many Rock N Roll Express ripoffs. Even the Rockers (Shawn Michaels & Marty Jannetty) copied them. What were the Rockers called during their AWA days?

5. You'd have to have read Mick Foley's book to get this one. What ring name did Vince McMahon originally have in mind for Foley in the WWF in the mid 90s?

6. Steve Austin was Stone Cold in the WWF, Stunning in WCW, and what in ECW?

7. Sycho Sid, Sid Justice, and Sid Vicious. Before Sid Eudy was Sid anything, he was known as what?

8. Name 3 ring names Scott Levy used in his career. If you don't know who Scott Levy is, then you probably won't get this question right anyway.

9. You'd have to have read Bobby Heenan's book to get this one. What mid-card cruiserweight WWF'er did Heenan suggest as the ring name for this feisty bump-taker, who is currently headlining in NWA TNA? Heenan's suggestion was used, although this wrestler hasn't used that ring name in several years.

10. And finally, what ring name did Barry Windham use in the WWF when he briefly wrestled there in 1989?

[Full Bug]

1- Thunderlips
2- Rip Tide??
4- Midnight Rockers
5- crap I know this but cant remember
7- Master Blaster?
8- Raven, Scotti Flamingo,
9- 1-2-3-Kid
10- Widowmaker

[rustoffa]

Originally posted by Full Bug
Time for another quiz....

1. Once known as Sterling Golden, Terry Bollea went on to become the greatest drawing card in wrestling history as Hulk Hogan. What name was Hogan called for his cameo in Rocky III?

2. Taking it one step further... what was Hogan's ring name in his own movie, "No Holds Barred?"

3. Everyone remembers HHH in WCW as Jean Paul Levesque. But before that, he was called something else. What was he called?

4. Ahh, so many Rock N Roll Express ripoffs. Even the Rockers (Shawn Michaels & Marty Jannetty) copied them. What were the Rockers called during their AWA days?

5. You'd have to have read Mick Foley's book to get this one. What ring name did Vince McMahon originally have in mind for Foley in the WWF in the mid 90s?

6. Steve Austin was Stone Cold in the WWF, Stunning in WCW, and what in ECW?

7. Sycho Sid, Sid Justice, and Sid Vicious. Before Sid Eudy was Sid anything, he was known as what?

8. Name 3 ring names Scott Levy used in his career. If you don't know who Scott Levy is, then you probably won't get this question right anyway.

9. You'd have to have read Bobby Heenan's book to get this one. What mid-card cruiserweight WWF'er did Heenan suggest as the ring name for this feisty bump-taker, who is currently headlining in NWA TNA? Heenan's suggestion was used, although this wrestler hasn't used that ring name in several years.

10. And finally, what ring name did Barry Windham use in the WWF when he briefly wrestled there in 1989?

6. Superstar Steve Austin

8. Johnny Polo? some Polo thing.

Raven.


that's all I got. (no googling)

[Full Bug]

Yeah, Johnny Polo, thats the other one, although I dont think he wrestled under that name, just managed....

[scottydabodi]

I'm just SO PISSED at Vince for cutting off the ECW Rules Match with Benoit and Tajiri tonight, only to make me sit through the rest of the CRAP in RAW.... FFFUUUCCCKKK!!!!

[Soul Reaper]

i can't believe they're making another RAW Diva Search. More waste of time.

Do the WWE actually listen to their fans?!

[Full Bug]

Originally posted by Soul Reaper
i can't believe they're making another RAW Diva Search. More waste of time.

Do the WWE actually listen to their fans?!
Apparently not, I dont know one person who likes the Diva search, and to think there wasnt any place for good female wrestlers like Molly Holly and Gail Kim to make room for these brainless bimbos....:rolleyes: I dont blame Holly for quitting....

[scottydabodi]

Originally posted by Full Bug
Apparently not, I dont know one person who likes the Diva search, and to think there wasnt any place for good female wrestlers like Molly Holly and Gail Kim to make room for these brainless bimbos....:rolleyes: I dont blame Holly for quitting....

Molly, Gail Kim, and Jazz are all great wrestlers... now I have to sit around and watch another Bikini-Pillow Fight-Underware-in a Bed match... I don't mind watchin' hot chicks pillow fight, but this shit is retarded, and so demeaning to the girls that I can't take it... I'd rather see Jazz vs. Molly...

[Matt White]

MOLLY RULES!!!

[scottydabodi]

Originally posted by Matt White
MOLLY RULES!!!

Molly is such a cutie, and Vince had her cut her hair make her out to be an angry dyke... Vince is a DUMMY! And Gail Kim ain't bad either!!! RAHR!!

[Matt White]

GAIL KIM!!!

SMART MOVE VINCE, YOU OLD FUCK!!!

NEVER LOSE HOT ASIAN TRIM!!!:mad:

[scottydabodi]

[img]http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=520816[/img

Whoa!! She's married to one of those Basham Brothers Fags... Can you believe THAT?!?

[Matt White]

NO?!?!?

NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Oh well, good for that bum!!!

[scottydabodi]

Yeah man, I read it about it a few weeks back... fuckin SUCKS. Bashams suck ass too... Like I wouldn't be so piseed if she married, like, Jericho, or Kurt Angle, but BASHAM?!? Eww...

[Soul Reaper]

Originally posted by scottydabodi
Molly, Gail Kim, and Jazz are all great wrestlers... now I have to sit around and watch another Bikini-Pillow Fight-Underware-in a Bed match... I don't mind watchin' hot chicks pillow fight, but this shit is retarded, and so demeaning to the girls that I can't take it... I'd rather see Jazz vs. Molly...

I haven't seen the women wrestlers in a REAL match yet. It's just stupid storyline fights like that shit arm-wrestling match they had once and that stupid boxing match (with big gloves). I want to see a REAL women's match. WWE is boring me to tears now (not literally) they need something which will elevate them again. remember Attitude era?

[scottydabodi]

ECW PARTY AT MY HOUSE JUNE 12th!!

I was going to the show, but I can't accpet the ticket prices... $400?!?! Forget it, Vince, you don't need that much... The party as my house will be plenty SICK!!

[Soul Reaper]

ARGH!!!

John Cena is doing an album and a music video.

help me!!! why must we be cursed with such a moron!!

[Soul Reaper]

John Cena is a shit wrestler and his a shit interviwer to boot.

all he can say is 'the champ is here' ,all the way through the interview and his 'trash talk' parts

[Soul Reaper]

by the way,

this is a very good wrestling site

http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/

[Full Bug]

Originally posted by Soul Reaper
John Cena is a shit wrestler and his a shit interviwer to boot.

I agree, they should make Kurt Angle the champ instead....

[Soul Reaper]

Yeah, I like Kurt Angle, he has more value than Cena.

This is what I think, even if the marks disagree

[Mr Badguy]

Cena`s video is a dumbass "A team" rip off.

Worse of all there`s only three of them Hannibal, BA and Murdock.

Where`s Face?

Murdock wasn`t an official member of "The A Team", Cena you cracker.

[Soul Reaper]

Originally posted by Mr Badguy
Cena`s video is a dumbass "A team" rip off.

Worse of all there`s only three of them Hannibal, BA and Murdock.

Where`s Face?

Murdock wasn`t an official member of "The A Team", Cena you cracker.

no brains under that er... brawn

as Booker T 'said', he's a "Vaniila Ice Wannabe"

[Full Bug]

Originally posted by Full Bug
Time for another quiz....

1. Once known as Sterling Golden, Terry Bollea went on to become the greatest drawing card in wrestling history as Hulk Hogan. What name was Hogan called for his cameo in Rocky III?

2. Taking it one step further... what was Hogan's ring name in his own movie, "No Holds Barred?"

3. Everyone remembers HHH in WCW as Jean Paul Levesque. But before that, he was called something else. What was he called?

4. Ahh, so many Rock N Roll Express ripoffs. Even the Rockers (Shawn Michaels & Marty Jannetty) copied them. What were the Rockers called during their AWA days?

5. You'd have to have read Mick Foley's book to get this one. What ring name did Vince McMahon originally have in mind for Foley in the WWF in the mid 90s?

6. Steve Austin was Stone Cold in the WWF, Stunning in WCW, and what in ECW?

7. Sycho Sid, Sid Justice, and Sid Vicious. Before Sid Eudy was Sid anything, he was known as what?

8. Name 3 ring names Scott Levy used in his career. If you don't know who Scott Levy is, then you probably won't get this question right anyway.

9. You'd have to have read Bobby Heenan's book to get this one. What mid-card cruiserweight WWF'er did Heenan suggest as the ring name for this feisty bump-taker, who is currently headlining in NWA TNA? Heenan's suggestion was used, although this wrestler hasn't used that ring name in several years.

10. And finally, what ring name did Barry Windham use in the WWF when he briefly wrestled there in 1989?
Nobody really did the quiz last week but here are the answers anyway....

-Hogan was "Thunderlips" in Rocky III.

-Hogan was "Rip" in No Holds Barred.

-HHH was Terra Ryzin, or however it's spelled, in WCW. He was also missing about 100 lbs of muscle back then. And hey, according to him, all you have to do is eat more protein and work out to get a physique like his.

-Shawn Michaels and Marty Jannetty were known as the Midnight Rockers in the AWA.

-Vince wanted to name Mick Foley "Mason the Mutilator."

-Steve Austin was "Superstar" Steve Austin in ECW. Go back and watch his promos from ECW; you'll get goosebumps.

-Sid Eudy was Lord Humongous.

-Scott Levy has used the names Raven, Scotty the Body, Scotty Flamingo, and Johnny Polo.

- The question was what wrestler did Bobby Heenan name; a wrestler who is currently a TNA wrestler. The answer is Sean Waltman, whom Heenan suggested be named the 1-2-3 Kid.

-In 1989, Barry Windham was given the gimmick the Widowmaker.

[Full Bug]

1. Just before he really hit it big, Steve Austin was nearly paralyzed after Owen Hart gave him a stiff piledriver during a PPV match. On which PPV event did this happen?

2. Ric Flair deserves tons of credit for coming back from a broken back and going on to become possibly the best wrestler in history. Name one person who was also on that plane flight with Ric when it crashed in the 70s.

3. Poor HHH tore his quad in 2001in San Jose. In what arena did HHH make his grand return in 2002 (with lots of fresh, brand new muscle he got by "eating more protein")?

4. What brief (very brief) WWF headliner "broke" Andre the Giant's ankle in 1981? You younger fans may have to Google this one.

5. Of the 3 big bumps Mick Foley took in his Hell in a Cell match with the Undertaker in 1998, which was unplanned? To refresh your memory, the bumps were: falling off the top of the cage, falling through the cage onto the mat, and falling into thumbtacks.

6. Shawn Michaels suffered his career-ending injury during a PPV match in San Jose, CA. Who was his opponent in that match?

7. Eric Bischoff and WCW got some heat when they showed replays of what wrestler breaking his leg in the ring in 2001? To this day I still haven't seen it, for fear of being grossed out.

8. Which wrestler has NOT had neck surgery?

A. Rhyno

B. Lita

C. Chris Benoit

D. Kurt Angle

E. Gene Snitsky

E. Edge

F. Steve Austin

G. Gene Snitsky

9. How did Brian Pillman break his ankle in the late 90s, in an injury he never quite healed from before his untimely passing in 1997?

10. Lots of people were questioning how long Scott Steiner would last on the rough and tumble WWE road schedule. Let's go back to 1991. What injury did Scott suffer that kept him out of the ring for months, while brother Rick headlined house shows against then-WCW champ (and best friend) Lex Luger?

Some these are pretty easy so I wont answer them for now....

[monkeythe]

1 - SummerSlam 97 - I was at the Meadowlands
2 - Johnny Valentine
3 - MSG
4 - Killer Kahn
5 - Through the cage
6 - Undertaker in a casket match
7 - Sid, and it was very nasty
8 - choices E&G Snitsky
9 - Car crash, rebroken by Stone COld
10 - Bicep tear

I didn't notice last weeks questions. What was the answer for the one 2 weeks ago with the former Bear at Chi-Town Rumble and who he was a fan of

[Soul Reaper]

I just found a cool animation and added it to my sig.

Rhyno pilerdriving someone from the top rope!

Cena's album is called 'You Can't See Me'. How unpredictable! :rolleyes:

What also annoys me is how Ivory and Todd Grisham pretend to get really excited about it, unless they really are excited about this piece of shit.

[Full Bug]

Originally posted by Soul Reaper
I just found a cool animation and added it to my sig.

Rhyno pilerdriving someone from the top rope!

I dont see it....

[rustoffa]

Welp, how 'bout that pensive Flair heel-turn last night?

I'll go out on a limb here and suggest a precursor to SUMMERSLAM.

All variables and busted angles cuntsidered.

[Full Bug]

Originally posted by rustoffa
Welp, how 'bout that pensive Flair heel-turn last night?

Dont tell me you didnt see that one coming....:D

[rustoffa]

:rolleyes: :D

It's mind numbing.

What about the Heyman/Bischoff fiasco? Fucking trainwreck.

[Full Bug]

Originally posted by rustoffa

What about the Heyman/Bischoff fiasco? Fucking trainwreck.
Each guys version (Including Vince) of what happened to ECW/WCW was comedy gold, I love how they try to rewrite history, I havent heard as much bullshit since I read Hogans book....:rolleyes: :D

[Full Bug]

Original Hart Foundation Reunion announced

On July 22, 2005, Border City Wrestling returns to the Ciociaro Club, Windsor Ontario for WrestleFest, our biggest show of the year!

For the past 12 years, BCW has strived to be the best independant wrestling promotion not only in Canada but in North America. July 22nd, we take the next big step as we present WrestleFest live from the Ciociaro Club. On a night where champions are crowned and legends are born, there will be one true Canadian legend in attendance...

Former 7-time World Champion, Bret "Hitman" Hart, a Canadian wrestling icon and one of the top 50 Greatest Canadians of all-time will make a special appearance along side two of his best friends and partners; Jim "The Anvil" Neidhart and "The Mouth of the South" Jimmy Hart. Together they ruled tag team wrestling in the 80's as the legendary Hart Foundation! All 3 men will appear at WrestleFest along side one another, one more time!

VIP ticket holders will have a chance to meet all 3 members of the Hart Foundation before the event as well as watch Jim "The Anvil" Neidhart in action! Many more superstars will be announced as the weeks go on, but make sure you get your tickets early as this one WILL sell out!!!

Advance tickets will go on sale ONLINE first, on Monday, June 13th exclusively at www.bordercitywrestling.com. Advance tickets can be purchased using paypal only. Then on June 17th, VIP tickets will also be available by calling the Border City Hotline at (519) 969-4624. General Admission tickets will be available at all our ticket outlets (Hellenic Subs, Canada Tavern, Ciociaro Club) starting on the 17th as well. General admission tickets as well as a shuttle service will be available from Joe Bones BarBQ, please contact them for more information.

VIP tickets will also be available in June at a very special autograph signing (date, time and location to be announced) with former BCW superstar, former WWE superstar and former ECW World Heavyweight Champion, Rhyno! Stay tuned to www.bordercitywrestling.com for all the updated information.

Front Row VIP tickets will be $50 with each person getting to meet the Hart Foundation along with the other BCW superstars, a free program, as well as a front row seat for all the action! Golden Circle VIP tickets will be available for $35 with the exclusive meet-and-greets, free program and an up-close view (rows 2 through 5) of all the action! For those who just want to come see the best wrestling action around, general admission tickets are available at $20 for adults and $10 for kids. Group discounts and family packages are available by calling the hotline.

To help kick off this legendary event, BCW will be working with Tim Hortons (EC Row and Central Ave in Windsor) for their annual Camp Day, June 8th from 10am to 2pm. Several BCW superstars will there selling coffee and helping out behind the counter. Free autographs are available to everyone with the purchase of a coffee. Rumour has it, that Rhyno may be appearing there as well, so stay tuned and don't forget to support Camp Day with BCW and Tim Hortons.

When we said Mick Foley was only the tip of the iceburg, we weren't kidding. We here at Border City Wrestling, the greatest wrestling promotion around and one of the longest running and most successful organizations in North America, can't wait to see all of you July 22 for WrestleFest!!!!!

[Full Bug]

I might go to that show....

[Soul Reaper]

Originally posted by Full Bug
I dont see it....

well, look again

[Full Bug]

Thats brutal, who is on the receiving end of that?

[rustoffa]

Man, you should see the clip of him piledriving Sandman's wife through a table on the floor off of the apron.....gyauggghhh!!!

[Soul Reaper]

Originally posted by rustoffa
Man, you should see the clip of him piledriving Sandman's wife through a table on the floor off of the apron.....gyauggghhh!!!

Sounds cool! I might use that in my sig, if I can find it

[rustoffa]

Originally posted by Soul Reaper
Sounds cool! I might use that in my sig, if I can find it

I looked for it last night to no avail...

[Mr Badguy]

Is that guy still alive?

I bet that would give Steve Austin nightmares.

[scottydabodi]

Originally posted by Full Bug
Thats brutal, who is on the receiving end of that?

I believe it's NOVA... although, from that angle you can't see it so well... might also be Kid Kash...

[Soul Reaper]

I'm going to add a new one to my sig!

http://portfolio.iu.edu/cdsalsma/GIFS/piledriver.gif

[Vinnie Velvet]

Originally posted by Mr Badguy
Is that guy still alive?

I bet that would give Steve Austin nightmares.

No kidding.

I still remember that pile driver he got at the hands of Owen Hart that lead to his neck problems and eventual retirement from the ring.

Cue Coco B Ware singing "Feels Like a Piledriver"

:D

[Full Bug]

Originally posted by Mr Badguy
Is that guy still alive?
I bet that would give Steve Austin nightmares.
He has been announced on the ECW card....

--ECW One Night Stand matches released on the WWE web site are:
Lance Storm managed by Dawn Marie vs. Chris Jericho
Rey Mysterio vs. Psychosis
Super Crazy vs. Tajiri vs. Little Guido
Eddie Guerrero vs. Chris Benoit
Tommy Dreamer & Sandman vs. Dudleys
Plus Paul Heyman, Rob Van Dam, Bill Alfonso, Tazz, Spike Dudley, Al Snow & Head, Sabu, Balls Mahoney, Danny Doring, Roadkill, C.W. Anderson, Rhyno, Joel Gertner (they found him), Axl Rotten, Justin Credible, Kid Kash, Masato Tanaka, Mikey Whipwreck managed by Jim Mitchell, Steven Richards as Big Stevie Cool with Hollywood Nova and The Blue Guy

[Full Bug]

Originally posted by Soul Reaper
[B]I'm going to add a new one to my sig!

You should add this one dude!:D
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/spinner/asdfg/sid.mpg

[Soul Reaper]

bloody hell!!

I don't how to add videos to my sig.

[Full Bug]

Originally posted by scottydabodi
I believe it's NOVA...
Is Nova still wrestling?

[Mr Badguy]

Originally posted by Full Bug
He has been announced on the ECW card....

--ECW One Night Stand matches released on the WWE web site are:
Lance Storm managed by Dawn Marie vs. Chris Jericho
Rey Mysterio vs. Psychosis
Super Crazy vs. Tajiri vs. Little Guido
Eddie Guerrero vs. Chris Benoit
Tommy Dreamer & Sandman vs. Dudleys
Plus Paul Heyman, Rob Van Dam, Bill Alfonso, Tazz, Spike Dudley, Al Snow & Head, Sabu, Balls Mahoney, Danny Doring, Roadkill, C.W. Anderson, Rhyno, Joel Gertner (they found him), Axl Rotten, Justin Credible, Kid Kash, Masato Tanaka, Mikey Whipwreck managed by Jim Mitchell, Steven Richards as Big Stevie Cool with Hollywood Nova and The Blue Guy

No Raven, Terry Funk or Mick Foley?

[Full Bug]

Foley is saying he may or may not be there, he isnt sure yet....

[Soul Reaper]

what's this ECW One Night Stand Eric's blabbing on about?

I bet Tajiri and Benoit will be there anyway (I saw it when they got 'banned')

I don't pay much attention to RAW or Smackdown anymore!

[monkeythe]

Originally posted by Mr Badguy
No Raven, Terry Funk or Mick Foley?

Raven's under contract to TNA and can't appear.
Funk said he can't wrestle 2 nights in a row & is taking less to appear at the Hardcore Homecoming (Shane Douglas show at ECW arena)
Mick Foley on appears when he has some crap to shill

[EdwardVanHalen1]

Did you see Batista destroy Navari and Muhhamad.

Triple H Better Look Out

[Redballjets88]

NORMAN SMILEY

[Dave's Bitch]

im going to a smackdown in 17 days with my boyfriend

[Soul Reaper]

Originally posted by scottydabodi
I believe it's NOVA... although, from that angle you can't see it so well... might also be Kid Kash...

Nova is also that stupid gimmick Simon Dean. I also heard that Nova was supposed to be a great wrestler.

Good way of runing a good wrestler WWE!!!

[Dave's Bitch]

hey guys dod trish stratus ever do a porno.....coz my friend swars he has seen her in one

[rustoffa]

Originally posted by scottydabodi
I believe it's NOVA... although, from that angle you can't see it so well... might also be Kid Kash...

It's Kash.

Hey, thanks to FORD I found the Sid Vicious leg-break video!!! HOO-FUCKIN"-RAY!!!!

http://www.plsthx.com/Crazy_videos/326_Wrestler_breaks_his_leg.html

[Dave's Bitch]

that sid vicious vid is SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[VH LINKS SUCKS]

Originally posted by Soul Reaper
what's this ECW One Night Stand Eric's blabbing on about?

I bet Tajiri and Benoit will be there anyway (I saw it when they got 'banned')

I don't pay much attention to RAW or Smackdown anymore!


ECW pay-per view should be great!

Hardcore matches galore!

ECW ECW ECW ECW ECW !!!

[EdwardVanHalen1]

ecw is better than SmackDown

[Soul Reaper]

you got that right

[Soul Reaper]

Originally posted by Dave's Bitch
hey guys dod trish stratus ever do a porno.....coz my friend swars he has seen her in one

she did a wet t-shirt thing, but that's it

[Dave's Bitch]

yea my friend showed me the porno in question and its not her,but i can see how he made the mistake

[Vinnie Velvet]

Originally posted by EdwardVanHalen1
ecw is better than SmackDown

Smackdown is just as bad as WCW THUNDER.

[EdwardVanHalen1]

smackdown sucks

[Full Bug]

Anyone think Cena is going to stay on Raw? I bet he will be back on Smackdown by months end....

[Big Troubles]

FB!!! I think Cena will stay on Raw, but tonight I bet Teddy Long grabs Batista for SmackDown! Any fucking idea how the draft is worked? Are they doing 5 guys for each brand? Cause I heard 5 for each, for tv viewers, then 10 more each "online" and will be posted. This true?

You'd think they (WWE) would be more clear on a BIG news storyline.

[Big Troubles]

Can you believe they got Styles? LOL Ya know, Im gonna get bashed for this, but I NEVER liked Joey's commentating. I thought it was too much screaming. I mean the guy shit himself for every move. "Oh My GAAAAWWWD!" :D I think Joel Gertner and Tazz, with Cyrus would have worked, as a 3 man com. team.

[Dave's Bitch]

Originally posted by Big Troubles
Can you believe they got Styles? LOL Ya know, Im gonna get bashed for this, but I NEVER liked Joey's commentating. I thought it was too much screaming. I mean the guy shit himself for every move. "Oh My GAAAAWWWD!" :D I think Joel Gertner and Tazz, with Cyrus would have worked, as a 3 man com. team.


ill second that.i hate joey's commentating he is just to much

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by Dave's Bitch
ill second that.i hate joey's commentating he is just to much

He was good on PPV, and he has a good "straight man- play by play" look to him, but Ive never considered him any more exciting than Mike Tenay. Now that guy is fucking drab. He puts me into a coma. Too much Lucha Libre talk and his passion is all over the place. Id take Scott Hudson as a good play by play guy over Styles and Tenay any day. But never would I take Tony Schiavone. Now he was a corpse. ;)

[POJO_Risin]

For as much as I hate Styles...it couldn't have been anyone else for this...plus he hate's McMahon...so anything can happen...

[EdwardVanHalen1]

The champ is here on raw

[EdwardVanHalen1]

forever

[tjvhou812]

its all about the game

[rustoffa]

Originally posted by POJO_Risin
For as much as I hate Styles...it couldn't have been anyone else for this...plus he hate's McMahon...so anything can happen...

Styles' "style" is ECW. I remember the first couple times watching the late-night syndicated broadcasts and just flipping the fuck out. I'll get back to Styles in a minute.

I pretty much grew up watching the old NWA product. You had Gordon Solie, and Bob Caudle. Caudle was "Styles" compared to Solie....he'd get pretty animated.

Caudle: "HANSEN PRACTICALLY TOOK HIS HEAD OFF WITH THAT! OH MY GOODNESS....DID YOU SEE THAT??!!"

Solie: "Hansen is out of control. Someone,
anyone.... There's no place for this in professional wrestling."

I actually preferred the Solie delivery, still do....over ANYONE. If you've never experienced a sedated, dry, delivery of "shot to the solarplexes", you ain't lived.

Back to Styles.

Just the simple, shaky, zoom-in/zoom-out video work on his commentary in front of that shitty banner is priceless. It'll be on the History Channel years from now, when they're playing the shit. I have no idea where Heyman found that fucker, but he's one helluva legendary broadcaster. You'd have to believe his "style" was a by-product of the absolute mind-numbing violence going on in front of him. What else can you scream but "OH MY GOD!!" when a fucker falls through twenty-five tables from a shitty scaffold secured by Ace Hardware rope?

It wasn't just the screaming. There was no shortage of subtle hilarity.

A personal favorite is after Sandy beats Sabu in the "Stairway To Hell" match. After enough abuse to kill 8 to 10 WWE supastars, Sandman canes SABU for the win complete with a coil of barbwire embedded in his skull. The shit is hanging off his head like an antenna halo....covered in blood about to his knees, he's just staggering around.

Styles: "And there is your.....winner???"

That shit's gonna be in a time capsule.

[Vinnie Velvet]

Too bad Cyrus (wwf's The Jackyl) is not involved with ECW's One Night Stand.

Apparently, Cyrus is still not on good terms with Vince.

[Soul Reaper]

Originally posted by EdwardVanHalen1
The champ is here on raw

SHIT!!!!

[Dave's Bitch]

Cena sucks ass.he cant wrestle.and every week we get subjected to his sub par brawling and "funny raps were he does a bit of toilet humor and suggests that someone is gay

[Big Troubles]

I agree with cena being overrated... but he's still climbing and slowly but surely he'll become an elite member of the Icon club.

As for Styles... I totally dissagree with you Rus and Pojo... Styles is way overrated with a small demographic of fans...namely EcW fans. This PPV is catering to both WWE/newer fans of EcW and of course hardcore followers of a dead product. Styles, is "ok" in his role, but I hope he has someone really great to play off of... Like Cyrus or Gertner- because Styles alone is a buzzkill. EVERY single move is an "OH MY GAWD" move. Just got tiresome real quick.

[Dave's Bitch]

Randy Orton has more potential than Cena and Cena will never be as good as Orton i think

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by Dave's Bitch
Randy Orton has more potential than Cena and Cena will never be as good as Orton i think

Randy Orton is already considered "injury proned" and is still being heavily trained on his mic skills. He also lost quite a bit of weight during this shoulder surgery, and that's something a wrestler tries NOT to do. Even Vince mocked him in the ring about his weight. Randy is a great guy, no doubt, but he SHOULD'VE been Main Eventing right now and instead his buddy Dave has surpassed him by miles. So Id say considering Cena's monster push now, the CD sales, The WWE title and just coming off a spendid draft picking and soon to be feuding with a freshly turned heel Chris Jericho and Mr Charasimatic Christian-John is ahead of Randy on points. But the upside for Orton is when he does come back, he enters into an automatic big storyline of "what show will Randy orton end up on?...stay tuned..." and that will outshine anything that Cena will be doing at the time, I dont care who's he's wrestling.

But I do like your sass Dave's Bitch! I can tell you are a huge wrestling fan. cheers

[Dave's Bitch]

Orton is also a complete ass backstage.he took a shit in one of the girls bag because they werent impressed when they met him

[Big Troubles]

check this out. I ordered the one month subscription. cheap and unlimited wrestling matches. It updates every month AND it gives you the past 2 months as well.

http://www.wwe.com/inside/unlimited/matchjukebox/

[Dave's Bitch]

Cena doesnt even write his raps anymore,they used to be funny but now they need to be sencored and he just uses toilet humor and gay references

[Dave's Bitch]

and is it true that batista is like 40???

[scottydabodi]

Originally posted by Dave's Bitch
Orton is also a complete ass backstage.he took a shit in one of the girls bag because they werent impressed when they met him

Orton is a fine worker, per se, but the REAL problem is that he is way too young, and way too green to be a main-eventer... let alone Champion. His "face" persona SUCKS, and his "heel" persona is BOGUS... A little more work and he'll develop fine, but right now it's snoozeville.

[Dave's Bitch]

Originally posted by scottydabodi
Orton is a fine worker, per se, but the REAL problem is that he is way too young, and way too green to be a main-eventer... let alone Champion. His "face" persona SUCKS, and his "heel" persona is BOGUS... A little more work and he'll develop fine, but right now it's snoozeville.


I dont hold much love for orton myself.he broke into the WWE the easy way.....his dad got him the job

[scottydabodi]

Originally posted by Dave's Bitch
I dont hold much love for orton myself.he broke into the WWE the easy way.....his dad got him the job

Yeah, I know. He is a decent worker, though, and I've seen some good matches with him in it... Orton vs. Undertaker was pretty good at wrestlemania, but the REAL problem with Orton is his real-life attitude...

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by Dave's Bitch
Orton is also a complete ass backstage.he took a shit in one of the girls bag because they werent impressed when they met him

yeah that's rather rude. Ive heard others have done worse things, including God boy Michaels... Bradshaws hazing... You'd think they would try to give off a more professional "look" to themselves being public in trading and all. Have you been to any shows?

Ive seen a Raw in Ottawa the night after Bret got screwed @ SS.
A few house shows... nothing memorable. the last one I seen was Bradshaw vs Eddy in a Canadian Street Fight. Which I thought was really lazy bookers...but anyways..

Went to the live RAW and Taped Smacdown back to back at ACC in T.O with NwO (watered down to Nash, Show, X Pac) Hogan wrestlers Flair on the card. Great for nostalgia.

SD! in T.O again with Show vs Lesnar where Show was F 5'd through the announce table.

oh and of course my favourite. SummerSlam 93 in Detroit. went with a few buds, got trashed. Met wrestlers in Hotel lobby at 3 am all trashed themselves. Fucking great time. Luger, Savage, Crush and Nash were all there. Shitty PPV, except the Michaels vs Perfect match, but the trip fucking rocked!

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by Dave's Bitch
and is it true that batista is like 40???

LOL no. I do believe he's like 26 or 27. He's young.

[Dave's Bitch]

Originally posted by scottydabodi
Yeah, I know. He is a decent worker, though, and I've seen some good matches with him in it... Orton vs. Undertaker was pretty good at wrestlemania, but the REAL problem with Orton is his real-life attitude...


the best orton match in my mind was against cactus jack.he gained alot of respect in that mach.his maches with triple H were shockingly bad i thought.he did good against taker but you cannot look bad in the ring with taker(unless your hidenrike)

[Dave's Bitch]

Originally posted by Big Troubles
LOL no. I do believe he's like 26 or 27. He's young.


LOL ok i heard he was 40

[Big Troubles]

fav wrestlers???

[Big Troubles]

and why?

[Dave's Bitch]

All time fav

Bret "The Hitman" Hart

he was the most amazing wrestler ive ever seen,his technical ability was amazing.ive always loved bret.My fav mach of all time was the iron man mach with bret and shawn.that was the single greatest mach ive ever seen

[scottydabodi]

Chris Benoit -because Chris walking to the ring is a 5-star match. Because he could have "inside" wresatling fans on the edge of their seats even if he was wrestling a rubber chicken... Because he works harder, longer, and stiffer than anyone(possible exception-Kurt Angle). Beacause he was trained by Stu Hart in the DUNGEON, and I don't ever recall a graduate of the DUNGEON being bad in the ring...

[Dave's Bitch]

Bret Hart and Chris Benoit was a great mach(the owen tribute)
Did anyone see it?

[Big Troubles]

Both good answers and good reasons. I was just going to say Ric Flair up until maybe 2 years ago. Lately he seems like he'd rather be at home. But give me that 5 star match Ric Flair with fucking hilarious glamorous lifestyle promos- yeah. I liked Brock Lesnar the wrestler better too. I guess all time fav is...

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by Dave's Bitch
Bret Hart and Chris Benoit was a great mach(the owen tribute)
Did anyone see it? its on this months line up on Juke Box so I got to finally see it. Kansas City right? Nitro? great match.

[Dave's Bitch]

Originally posted by Big Troubles
its on this months line up on Juke Box so I got to finally see it. Kansas City right? Nitro? great match.


OMG you HAVE to see it,record it if you can

[Dave's Bitch]

what are your thoughts on Ric Flair?

[Dave's Bitch]

or should i say Nature Boy Ric Flair

[Big Troubles]

I like Ric. In and out of the ring. I think he owns that ring when he enters it. He does it real well. He also gives off a good persona off camera. I know about his reckless lifestyle and adultry but he still reminds me of grandpa damn it! LOL I like Hot Rod too. I miss the early 90's stage of WWF & NWA.

[superdave]

Ric Flair is the greatest wrestler of all time

[superdave]

Todays wrestling has gone so far downhill--wrestling of the 70's and 80's ruled--Bruiser Brody, the Von Erichs, the Freebirds, Ric Flair

[Dave's Bitch]

diamonds are forever and so is Ric Flair


Wooooooooooo

[superdave]

Ric Flair's battles with Sting were the best

[Dave's Bitch]

the limosene riding,jet plaine flying,kiss stealing,wheelin deelin sun of a gun



woooooooooo they call me slick Ric

[Dave's Bitch]

Flairs mach against harley race in the cage was good

seeing slick Ric walk that isle at the start of the mach

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by superdave
Todays wrestling has gone so far downhill--wrestling of the 70's and 80's ruled--Bruiser Brody, the Von Erichs, the Freebirds, Ric Flair

Scary how it changed.

I cant imagine 30 years from now. crazy. we'll be wrestling each other on the streets for food and Vince will market it on PPV. I'll be 64 so I "could" potentially wrestle for them since the fucking idiot Canadian government will have abolished the mandatory retirement age, giving me until Im dead, to become WWE champ! :D

too far? yeah... too far.

[superdave]

Flair versus Kerry Von Erich was great as well

[Big Troubles]

Ive got a good Flair vs Abby match from puerto Rico. very bloody.

[superdave]

Flairs bloody matches are classic

[Dave's Bitch]

OMG theres a rumor going round that Bret Hart is gonna wrestle on a house show for one last time,is it true?????

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by Dave's Bitch
OMG theres a rumor going round that Bret Hart is gonna wrestle on a house show for one last time,is it true?????

Doubt it. IF he EVER wrestles, which is very unlikely, it would be for a Wrestlemania type hype match with Bret being paid ALOT. Also it would be against someone he would trust not to injure him. So most likey Tag Team. Ok here goes... Bret Hart & Kurt Angle vs Shawn Michaels & Undertaker. Start your storyline progress from this point and work backwards. In order for this to work, we'd need Angle to turn face, Michaels to turn heel and Undertaker to turn heel. Not a good idea. So we go the other route. Undertaker and Michaels stay face, Angle convinces Bret to exact revenge from Michaels from SS 97. Post match though could have Bret shake hands with Michaels/Undertaker and have Kurt take a hissy, attack Bret, Bret fights back and kicks Angles ass. Sends Kurt to the back crying. :D Wrap it up and you got yourself a main event.

[scottydabodi]

Originally posted by Dave's Bitch
what are your thoughts on Ric Flair?

Flair is the Greatest Ever... I mean for crying out loud, we could sit here all night and name Calssic Matches that guy had. He could make a can of tuna fish look good in the ring...

My fave was Flair vs. Steamboat.

[Big Troubles]

I liked some Flair/Sting matches, but my fav was Vader vs Flair.

I almost fell out of my chair when I watched Flair walk onto the set of the Funeral Parlor and go face to face with Hogan. Got chills. Cool stuff like that is gone.

[scottydabodi]

Originally posted by Big Troubles
I liked some Flair/Sting matches, but my fav was Vader vs Flair.

I almost fell out of my chair when I watched Flair walk onto the set of the Funeral Parlor and go face to face with Hogan. Got chills. Cool stuff like that is gone.

I got chills the other night when the camera zoomed in on HHH's face, and I jumped and spilled soda on my nads...

Flair is a million years old, and still makes a match look great... he's got a special gift for this sport...

[Full Bug]

Originally posted by Big Troubles
LOL no. I do believe he's like 26 or 27. He's young.
Wrong dude, he's about 37, Dave Meltzer was just talking about this last week...Even I heard him talk about it in a interview, how he got into the biz real late....Anyone who thinks he looks as big is he is at that age without steriods in on glue....
A wrestling guy wrote this, not saying for sure he is right but I agree with him....
"Go to your local gym. How many people are built like Batista? This guy is constantly on the road, and had to suffer through the horrible cancer of his wife. Stress like that is a killer to the body, yet somehow Batista always looks like he's ready to enter a bodybuilding contest. He's got all his hair, but hey, so does HHH. Batista is also closing in on 40. He doesn't look like your average 40-year-old; even a 40-year-old who trains hard."

[Full Bug]

Originally posted by Dave's Bitch
OMG theres a rumor going round that Bret Hart is gonna wrestle on a house show for one last time,is it true?????
No, he is just making an appearence with Jim The Anvil and Jimmy Hart, I may even go to that show....

[scottydabodi]

Originally posted by Full Bug
No, he is just making an appearence with Jim The Anvil and Jimmy Hart, I may even go to that show....

Hart Foundation reunion is gonna kick ass!

[Vinnie Velvet]

With Bret's recent recovery from a stroke he suffered from the bike accident he had and the concussion that forced his retirement in 2000, its very unlikely Bret will ever set foot in the ring again.

Though I'm hearing he is healthy as ever and works out again regularly.

[Soul Reaper]

does everyone think that Bret is just one big ego?

i thought he was a great wrestler. most people think his ego is just TOO big.

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by Soul Reaper
does everyone think that Bret is just one big ego?

i thought he was a great wrestler. most people think his ego is just TOO big.

Well, shit, he's a HART - big ego kinda goes with the territory in that family...lol

[Soul Reaper]

Originally posted by bueno bob
Well, shit, he's a HART - big ego kinda goes with the territory in that family...lol

of course...but I still thought he was a great wrestler.

I've heard many stories about his ego. I've just forgotten them.

[Dave's Bitch]

it was goldberg who ended brets carrer.he fucked up 3 spots in that mach.he did a "potaeto"shot a full on elbow to the face wich nearly KO'ed bret.Bret went to do the corber figure four spot he does and goldberg forgot to hold brets leg and he just fell and smashed his head against the floor,and finally a kick full force to the back of Bret's head which forced him into retirement


Thanks a fucking bunch Bill

[zeronumber]

I'm surprised, no body ever chanted "You screwed bret" whenever goldburg came out...

Frankly, If goldburg didn't give Bret that concussion, he wouldn't have had to retire.

Anyway, I'm glad to see this years draft is somewhat interesting. It's good to see champs being traded, as well as big names, unlike last year, where it was one huge jobber swap.

[zeronumber]

Originally posted by EdwardVanHalen1
ecw is better than SmackDown

You're kidding right? That's such a crock of shit, I don't even know where to begin arguing about it.

First off, ECW sucked. The King was right when he called it "Extremely crappy wrestling", because, that's all it was. You couldn't even define it as wrestling, or a fed for that matter. All ECW was, was this watered down version of WCW where a bunch of virtual nobodies wrestled each other because they couldn't wrestle anywhere else in japan, or some local indy fed. It soon became a safe haven for Washed up wrestlers like the funk brothers, And fed Rejects like Shane Douglas/Ron simmons to either become champion, or wrestle in otherwise boring matches(Which is a lot of the same shit that goes on in Tna now, but that's another story)

ECW didn't even become "Extreme" till the mid 90's when they catered into gimmick matches, and 'hardcore' wrestling more and more.
Hell, most of the matches from 95 on were just going throw tables, barbed wire rings, and hitting each other with kendo sticks, just for a cheap way to make a name for themselfs.(which worked, but it was too late). ECW died, for one simple reason, because of it's inability to go national. They couldn't carry a fed that could do 5 matches without so much as bringing in a table or a steel chair, or put on something semi-decent to put on a more credible station.

Everybody talks about how great ecw was, but frankly...there wasn't even that much great about it. The only cool things about ECW was Terry Funk kicking the living shit out Mic foley, New jack, fucking everybody up with random shit, and Sabu get shred and broken to pieces. And yet, most of them aren't even on this one night stand.

Then you look at smackdown. People can actually tolerate a smackdown show and smackdown ppv. Where you can still see awesome matches, and a show that can go on for more than an hour without having to go "extreme".

To say that ECW compares to any fed out there, is a joke. WWE and WCW were 10 times better than ecw. The only thing ECW is better than, is Tna.(but then again, Tna is still a fairly new fed, and has only been around for 2 years...)

[Dave's Bitch]

all wcw was was the wwf(as it was called at the time) retirement home where all the crap wwf didnt want went

[Dave's Bitch]

The only thing ECW is better than, is Tna.(but then again, Tna is still a fairly new fed, and has only been around for 2 years...) [/B][/QUOTE]

dont get me started on total non action wrestling,it has about two good wrestlers in it.then it has shit like x pac and the road dog doing the same tired old crap they did in wwe.and they got the "american dream" dusty rhodes there.WOW what an ego.TNA is total crap in comparison to ECW.hell i prefer smokey mountain wrestling to TNA

[zeronumber]

Originally posted by Dave's Bitch
all wcw was was the wwf(as it was called at the time) retirement home where all the crap wwf didnt want went

Granted it was, because of the main eventers were brought in just to bring face value to their titles...

But it was also the starting ground for many awesome superstars like Flyin Brian Pillman, and Sting.

WCW was always better imo...mostly because the wwe was stale crap at the time...Though, after 98', WCW turned into shit. When they basically went to a repectable fed, to a show that was a huge waste...

Seriously, I stopped watching WCW when they started having title changes every other day.

[Dave's Bitch]

eric bishoff does not know how to run a company is the reason it suckd,he does not know the buisness.did you know he said to The Undertaker,Triple H and Stone Cold Steve Austin that they would never make it

[superdave]

Bischoff is a moron, although Vince is a bigger moron

[zeronumber]

Originally posted by Dave's Bitch
The only thing ECW is better than, is Tna.(but then again, Tna is still a fairly new fed, and has only been around for 2 years...)

dont get me started on total non action wrestling,it has about two good wrestlers in it.then it has shit like x pac and the road dog doing the same tired old crap they did in wwe.and they got the "american dream" dusty rhodes there.WOW what an ego.TNA is total crap in comparison to ECW.hell i prefer smokey mountain wrestling to TNA [/B][/QUOTE]

I agree. Tna has awesome wreslters such as Christoper Daniels, Michael Shane, Petey Williams, and A.J. Styles, yet they burry them under has been main eventers and Fed rejects like:

Scott Hall, Dustin Rhodes, Raven, Jeff Jerret, Kevin Nash, Jeff Hardy, Syxx Pac, Road Dogg, Konan, DDP and such.

Some of them got fired, and Hardy is suspended, but still...
The only good thing about tna is it's ppv's...and that's about it.

[Dave's Bitch]

another thing was the NWO,that was good at first but it go SOOOO outa hand,to the point where everyone was a member,either nwo hollywood or wolfpack.or the LWO i guess but the entire promotion was split into 3 factions.Bad Move

[Dave's Bitch]

The only good thing about tna is it's ppv's...and that's about it. [/B][/QUOTE]


the x division can be ok sometimes

[superdave]

I don't get how some scrawny punk like X-Pac is even allowed to get into a ring.....

[Dave's Bitch]

the bronco buster,what the fuck is that.it has to be one of the worst moves ever.i meen what would having x pac's sweaty little groin bouncing around near your face do

[zeronumber]

Originally posted by superdave
Bischoff is a moron, although Vince is a bigger moron

Well, Bischoff is a moron, but no way in hell I Vince a Moron....

Vince turned a normal fed into an Enterprise, and crushed a competitor that had a billion dollar expence account. Vince killed WCW.

Bischoff just got desperate for ratings, so he hired Vince Russo(Biggest mistake ever!!!) to write scripts, and he gave too much power to his superstars when they threatened to leave....

[superdave]

That is the gayest move in wrestling history

[superdave]

Vince has turned wrestling into a caricature of itself--very laughable at best

[Soul Reaper]

Originally posted by Dave's Bitch
all wcw was was the wwf(as it was called at the time) retirement home where all the crap wwf didnt want went

you nailed it right there.

but the nitro girls were GRATE!!!

[zeronumber]

Originally posted by Dave's Bitch
another thing was the NWO,that was good at first but it go SOOOO outa hand,to the point where everyone was a member,either nwo hollywood or wolfpack.or the LWO i guess but the entire promotion was split into 3 factions.Bad Move

What's even worse is when the WWE tried to copy it making multiple feds as well...

Making "The heart Foundation", "D-Generation X" and "The Nation of Domination"....

Whenever you have more than 2 stables, their's always going to spell disaster...

[Dave's Bitch]

Originally posted by superdave
Vince has turned wrestling into a caricature of itself--very laughable at best


vince has worked wonders for the wwe,he turned it from a fairly ok promotion to the only name in wrestling

BUT....
vince's problem is he doesnt realise he cant do anything else,he's great for the WRESTLING of the wwe.his body building thing he had going on flopped and what of the wwe movie place thing?.again flopped


vince dear.stick to wrestling,your no good at anything else

[Soul Reaper]

Originally posted by superdave
I don't get how some scrawny punk like X-Pac is even allowed to get into a ring.....

maybe his "YOU SUCK" or "SUCK THIS!" or whatever that Generation X thing is should be turned into, by the fans, ,"X-PAC SUCKS COCK!"

[Dave's Bitch]

Originally posted by zeronumber
What's even worse is when the WWE tried to copy it making multiple feds as well...

Making "The heart Foundation", "D-Generation X" and "The Nation of Domination"....

Whenever you have more than 2 stables, their's always going to spell disaster...


DX KICKED ASS,wow they were cool.DX with HBK was awsome they were such bad asses,shawn,HHH and chyna.they were funny as hell.DX with Triple H at the helm were great too.Triple H,Mr ass,the Road dogg,X pac and chyna.i was dying when the did there take on the nation.lol with the crock and b-lo lol funny

[Dave's Bitch]

Originally posted by Soul Reaper
maybe his "YOU SUCK" or "SUCK THIS!" or whatever that Generation X thing is should be turned into, by the fans, ,"X-PAC SUCKS COCK!"


its

SUCK IT!!!!!!

[zeronumber]

X pac always sucked. He could never make it outside a stable either. Unless he was kissing hall and nash ass, or Paul's ass, he was good for nothing.

TNA is beyond hope. Tna could be great, unfortunately, it's held back by the same problems that plauged WCW, from former WCW People!!!

[Soul Reaper]

Originally posted by Dave's Bitch
its

SUCK IT!!!!!!

whatever.

he still SUCKS COCK!!

[Dave's Bitch]

laydie's n gentlemen boys n girls children of all ages,degeneration x proudly brings to you the wwf TAG TEAM CHAMPIONS OF THE WOOOOOOORLD,The Road Dogg Jesse James,The Bad Ass Billy Gun<THE NEW AGE OUTLAWS

the outlaws were great

[Dave's Bitch]

Triple H: ARE YOU READY......i said ARE YOU READY!!!!!!!!!.
Then for the thousands in attendance,for the million's watching at home,and for the one fat ass guy sitting on the couch playing this video game lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllets get ready to SUCK IIIIIIIIIIIIT
(quote from wwf attitude)

[Vinnie Velvet]

Originally posted by Dave's Bitch
another thing was the NWO,that was good at first but it go SOOOO outa hand,to the point where everyone was a member,either nwo hollywood or wolfpack.or the LWO i guess but the entire promotion was split into 3 factions.Bad Move

I agree.

The original nWo with Hogan, Hall and Nash ruled.

[Dave's Bitch]

hall suck's though,once when he was with wwe in the UK,he drank so much on the flight they had to check his pulse to see if he was alive

[Vinnie Velvet]

Originally posted by Dave's Bitch
hall suck's though,once when he was with wwe in the UK,he drank so much on the flight they had to check his pulse to see if he was alive

Yeah, but that was Hall from 2002. He was a lot older and his alcohol abuse just got worse as the years went on.

But you can't deny he was actually great during his Razor Ramon years in the WWF and his role in the early days of the nWo.

[Dave's Bitch]

he was pretty good as "the bad guy" razor ramon chico

[Vinnie Velvet]

Hey Yo!

http://www.students.niu.edu/~z060510/ScottHall9.jpg

[Dave's Bitch]

kevin nash was good as Big Daddy Cool Diesle

[Tom Vu]

Originally posted by Dave's Bitch
he was pretty good as "the bad guy" razor ramon chico
http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/f/fakeoutsiders/01.jpg
"Hey Yo! Me and by buddy, Big Kev are Outsiders 4-life."

[Dave's Bitch]

the outsiders sucked

[Tom Vu]

Originally posted by Dave's Bitch
kevin nash was good as Big Daddy Cool Diesle
http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/k/kane/20.jpg
"Big Daddy Cool Diesel is just too sweeeeeet!"

[Dave's Bitch]

remember the fake diesel,he was glen jacobs aka Kane

[Tom Vu]

Originally posted by Dave's Bitch
he was pretty good as "the bad guy" razor ramon chico
http://www.wrestlinginformer.net/Rick_Bogner.jpg
"Hey Chico! The Bad Guy is gonna carve you up."

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by Tom Vu
http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/k/kane/20.jpg
"Big Daddy Cool Diesel is just too sweeeeeet!"

yeah except that pic you got isn't "Big Daddy Cool" Diesel aka Kevin Nash. That's the "fake" Diesel Vince created from Dr DDS Issak Yankem, an evil dentist gimmick. Before that he was the Unibomber in Smokey Mountain Wrestling and currently he's Kane.

and let it be known that Kane hits a fuck of a lot harder and is stiffer in the ring that Ol' Lazy, Big Kev. According to rumors, back in 93/94 Kevin Nash and lex Lugar were known to be to soft and sappy in the ring.

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by Full Bug
Wrong dude, he's about 37, Dave Meltzer was just talking about this last week...Even I heard him talk about it in a interview, how he got into the biz real late....Anyone who thinks he looks as big is he is at that age without steriods in on glue....
A wrestling guy wrote this, not saying for sure he is right but I agree with him....
"Go to your local gym. How many people are built like Batista? This guy is constantly on the road, and had to suffer through the horrible cancer of his wife. Stress like that is a killer to the body, yet somehow Batista always looks like he's ready to enter a bodybuilding contest. He's got all his hair, but hey, so does HHH. Batista is also closing in on 40. He doesn't look like your average 40-year-old; even a 40-year-old who trains hard."

wow! I never would have guessed. Fucking unbelievable. Look great and in great shape, but even his face. His face looks young.

[Dave's Bitch]

Originally posted by Big Troubles
wow! I never would have guessed. Fucking unbelievable. Look great and in great shape, but even his face. His face looks young.


no it doesnt,or i dont think it does

[Vinnie Velvet]

Shit, I forgot about that whole fake Diesel and fake Razor angle.

Gee, was Vince really desperate back then.

[Dave's Bitch]

Originally posted by Vinnie Velvet
Shit, I forgot about that whole fake Diesel and fake Razor angle.

Gee, was Vince really desperate back then.


they were worse than hall and nash,well the diesel wasnt to bad but the razor was terrible,he didnt even look to much like him

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by Dave's Bitch
they were worse than hall and nash,well the diesel wasnt to bad but the razor was terrible,he didnt even look to much like him

Rick Bogner also known as fake Sting #2 I believe.

Id like to see Razor Ramon gimmick brought back to WWE for a short, but good run. I hear X Pac is gearing up for a return full time to WWE, maybe the Kid and Da Bad Guy can team up? Hopeful thinking? lol

[Big Troubles]

http://www.wrestlinginformer.net/Rick_Bogner.jpg