ELVIS
02-12-2005, 01:55 PM
They had a neighbor when I lived in DC who was part of
the secret service presidential detail for many years.
His stories of Kennedy and Johnson were the same as
those I heard from the guys who flew the presidents'
plane--- [yes, Kennedy did have Marilyn Monroe flown
in for secret "dates," and LBJ was a typical Texas
"good ol boy" womanizer.
Nixon, Bush 41, and Cater never cheated on their
wives. Clinton cheated, but couldn't match Kennedy or
LBJ in style or variety.
The information below is accurate. Bush 41 and the
current president Bush make it a point to thank and
take care of the aircrews who fly them around
[When the president flies, there are several planes
that also go -- one carries the armored limo, another
the security detail, plus usually a press aircraft]
and both Bush's made it a point to stay home on
holidays,
>so these Air Force and security people could have a
day with their families.
(WHAT WAS, COULD HAVE BEEN, AND WHAT IS)
WHAT WAS:
Hillary Clinton was arrogant and orally abusive to her
security detail. She forbade her daughter, Chelsea,
from exchanging pleasantries with them. Sometimes
Chelsea, miffed at her mother's obvious conceit and
mean spiritedness ignored her demands and exchanged
pleasantries regardless, but never in her mother's
presence.
Chelsea really was a nice, kindhearted, and lovely
young lady. The consensus opinion was that Chelsea
loved her Mom but did not like her.
Hillary Clinton was continuously rude and abrasive to
those who were charged to protect her life. Her
security detail dutifully did their job, as
professionals should, but they all "loathed" her and
wanted to be on a different detail. She was hard work
because she was so nasty and mean toward her detail.
Hillary Clinton was uniformly despised by the Secret
Service as a whole.
Former President Bill Clinton was much more amiable
than his wife Hillary. Often the Secret Service would
cringe at the verbal attack antics that Hillary would
use against her husband, the then President. They were
embarrassed for his sake by the manner and frequency
in which she verbally insulted him, sometimes in the
presence of the Secret Service, and sometimes behind
closed doors. Even behind closed doors Hillary Clinton
would scream and holler so loudly that everyone could
hear what she was saying.
Many felt sorry for President Clinton and most people
wondered why he tolerated it instead of just divorcing
his "attack dog" wife. It was crystal clear that the
Clintons neither liked nor respected each other and
>was true long before the Monica Lewinsky scandal.
Theirs was genuinely a "marriage of convenience."
Chelsea was much closer to her father than her mother,
even after the Lewinsky scandal, which hurt her
gravely. Bill Clinton did in fact have "charisma," and
occasionally would smile at or shake hands with his
security detail. Still, he always displayed an obvious
air of superiority towards them. His security detail
uniformly believed him to be singenuous, false, and
that he did nothing without a motive in some way would
enhance his image and political career. They did
respect him, unlike his wife, but they did not
particularly like him and nobody trusted him. He was
polite, but not kind.
WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN:
Al Gore was the male version of Hillary Clinton. They
were friendlier toward each other than either of them
was towards former President Clinton. They were not
intimate, so please don't read that in. They were very
close in a political way. Tipper Gore was generally
nice and pleasant. She initially liked Hillary but
soon after the election she had her "pegged" and no
longer liked her or associated with her except for
events that were politically obligatory.
Al Gore was far more left wing and very hateful, not
just politically opposed, to republicans than Clinton.
Al Gore resented Bill Clinton and thought he was too
"centrist." He despised all Republicans. His hatred
was
bitter and this was long before he announced for the
Presidency. This bitter hatred was something that he
and Hillary had very much in common. They often said
as much, even in the presence of their security
detail.
Neither of them trusted Bill Clinton and, the Secret
Service opined, neither of them even liked Bill
Clinton. Bill Clinton did have some good qualities
where Al Gore and Hillary had none in the view of
their security details.
Al Gore, like Hillary, was very rude and arrogant
toward his security detail. He was extremely
unappreciative and would not hesitate to scold
them in the presence of their peers for minor details
over which they had no control. Al Gore also looked
down on them in disgust as they finally observed and
learned with certainty on one occasion when Al Gore
got angry at his offspring and loudly, in their
presence, pointed at his security detail and said, "Do
you want to grow up and be like them?"
Word of this insulting and demeaning verbiage by the
former Vice-president quickly spread and he became as
despised and disliked by the Secret Service as
Hillary. Most of them prayed that Al Gore would not be
elected President and they really did have private
small celebrations in a few of their homes after
President Bush won. This was not necessarily to
celebrate President Bush's election, but to celebrate
Al Gore's defeat.
He was much disliked. Al Gore was not a good and kind
person. That he could have been our President may
suggest that God was "answering prayers" and looking
out for the country with Al Gore's defeat.
WHAT IS:
Everyone in the Secret Service wants to be on First
Lady Laura Bush's detail. Without exception, they
uniformly concede that she is perhaps the most nice
kind, and genuinely good person they have ever had the
privilege of serving. Where Hillary patently refused
to allow her picture to be taken with her security
detail, Laura Bush doesn't even have to be asked, she
offers.
She doesn't just shake their hand and say, "Thank
you." Very often, she will give members of her detail
a kindhearted hug to express her appreciation. There
is nothing false about her. This is her genuine
nature.
Laura Bush really is this kind of a person and her
security detail considers her to be a "breath of fresh
air." They actually love her as a human being.
They joke that comparing Laura Bush with Hillary
Clinton is like comparing "Mother Teresa" with the
"Wicked Witch of the North." Likewise, the Secret
Service considers President Bush to be a gem of a man
to work for. He always treats them with genuine
respect and he always trusts and listens to their
expert advice. They really like the Crawford, Texas
detail. Every time the president goes to Crawford he
has a Bar-B-Q for his security detail and he helps in
serving them their meals. He eats with them, sits with
them, and talks with them. He always asks about their
family, the names of which he always remembers, and he
of course, knows each of them by their first name, and
calls them by their first name as a show of affection.
They believe that he actually loves his security
detail and that he is deeply and genuinely
appreciative of their service. They could not like,
love, or respect anyone more than President Bush, and
most of them did not know they would feel this way
until they had an opportunity to work for him and
learn that his manner was genuine and consistent. It
has never changed in the time that he has been
President. He always treats them with the utmost
respect, kindness, and compassion.
:elvis:
the secret service presidential detail for many years.
His stories of Kennedy and Johnson were the same as
those I heard from the guys who flew the presidents'
plane--- [yes, Kennedy did have Marilyn Monroe flown
in for secret "dates," and LBJ was a typical Texas
"good ol boy" womanizer.
Nixon, Bush 41, and Cater never cheated on their
wives. Clinton cheated, but couldn't match Kennedy or
LBJ in style or variety.
The information below is accurate. Bush 41 and the
current president Bush make it a point to thank and
take care of the aircrews who fly them around
[When the president flies, there are several planes
that also go -- one carries the armored limo, another
the security detail, plus usually a press aircraft]
and both Bush's made it a point to stay home on
holidays,
>so these Air Force and security people could have a
day with their families.
(WHAT WAS, COULD HAVE BEEN, AND WHAT IS)
WHAT WAS:
Hillary Clinton was arrogant and orally abusive to her
security detail. She forbade her daughter, Chelsea,
from exchanging pleasantries with them. Sometimes
Chelsea, miffed at her mother's obvious conceit and
mean spiritedness ignored her demands and exchanged
pleasantries regardless, but never in her mother's
presence.
Chelsea really was a nice, kindhearted, and lovely
young lady. The consensus opinion was that Chelsea
loved her Mom but did not like her.
Hillary Clinton was continuously rude and abrasive to
those who were charged to protect her life. Her
security detail dutifully did their job, as
professionals should, but they all "loathed" her and
wanted to be on a different detail. She was hard work
because she was so nasty and mean toward her detail.
Hillary Clinton was uniformly despised by the Secret
Service as a whole.
Former President Bill Clinton was much more amiable
than his wife Hillary. Often the Secret Service would
cringe at the verbal attack antics that Hillary would
use against her husband, the then President. They were
embarrassed for his sake by the manner and frequency
in which she verbally insulted him, sometimes in the
presence of the Secret Service, and sometimes behind
closed doors. Even behind closed doors Hillary Clinton
would scream and holler so loudly that everyone could
hear what she was saying.
Many felt sorry for President Clinton and most people
wondered why he tolerated it instead of just divorcing
his "attack dog" wife. It was crystal clear that the
Clintons neither liked nor respected each other and
>was true long before the Monica Lewinsky scandal.
Theirs was genuinely a "marriage of convenience."
Chelsea was much closer to her father than her mother,
even after the Lewinsky scandal, which hurt her
gravely. Bill Clinton did in fact have "charisma," and
occasionally would smile at or shake hands with his
security detail. Still, he always displayed an obvious
air of superiority towards them. His security detail
uniformly believed him to be singenuous, false, and
that he did nothing without a motive in some way would
enhance his image and political career. They did
respect him, unlike his wife, but they did not
particularly like him and nobody trusted him. He was
polite, but not kind.
WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN:
Al Gore was the male version of Hillary Clinton. They
were friendlier toward each other than either of them
was towards former President Clinton. They were not
intimate, so please don't read that in. They were very
close in a political way. Tipper Gore was generally
nice and pleasant. She initially liked Hillary but
soon after the election she had her "pegged" and no
longer liked her or associated with her except for
events that were politically obligatory.
Al Gore was far more left wing and very hateful, not
just politically opposed, to republicans than Clinton.
Al Gore resented Bill Clinton and thought he was too
"centrist." He despised all Republicans. His hatred
was
bitter and this was long before he announced for the
Presidency. This bitter hatred was something that he
and Hillary had very much in common. They often said
as much, even in the presence of their security
detail.
Neither of them trusted Bill Clinton and, the Secret
Service opined, neither of them even liked Bill
Clinton. Bill Clinton did have some good qualities
where Al Gore and Hillary had none in the view of
their security details.
Al Gore, like Hillary, was very rude and arrogant
toward his security detail. He was extremely
unappreciative and would not hesitate to scold
them in the presence of their peers for minor details
over which they had no control. Al Gore also looked
down on them in disgust as they finally observed and
learned with certainty on one occasion when Al Gore
got angry at his offspring and loudly, in their
presence, pointed at his security detail and said, "Do
you want to grow up and be like them?"
Word of this insulting and demeaning verbiage by the
former Vice-president quickly spread and he became as
despised and disliked by the Secret Service as
Hillary. Most of them prayed that Al Gore would not be
elected President and they really did have private
small celebrations in a few of their homes after
President Bush won. This was not necessarily to
celebrate President Bush's election, but to celebrate
Al Gore's defeat.
He was much disliked. Al Gore was not a good and kind
person. That he could have been our President may
suggest that God was "answering prayers" and looking
out for the country with Al Gore's defeat.
WHAT IS:
Everyone in the Secret Service wants to be on First
Lady Laura Bush's detail. Without exception, they
uniformly concede that she is perhaps the most nice
kind, and genuinely good person they have ever had the
privilege of serving. Where Hillary patently refused
to allow her picture to be taken with her security
detail, Laura Bush doesn't even have to be asked, she
offers.
She doesn't just shake their hand and say, "Thank
you." Very often, she will give members of her detail
a kindhearted hug to express her appreciation. There
is nothing false about her. This is her genuine
nature.
Laura Bush really is this kind of a person and her
security detail considers her to be a "breath of fresh
air." They actually love her as a human being.
They joke that comparing Laura Bush with Hillary
Clinton is like comparing "Mother Teresa" with the
"Wicked Witch of the North." Likewise, the Secret
Service considers President Bush to be a gem of a man
to work for. He always treats them with genuine
respect and he always trusts and listens to their
expert advice. They really like the Crawford, Texas
detail. Every time the president goes to Crawford he
has a Bar-B-Q for his security detail and he helps in
serving them their meals. He eats with them, sits with
them, and talks with them. He always asks about their
family, the names of which he always remembers, and he
of course, knows each of them by their first name, and
calls them by their first name as a show of affection.
They believe that he actually loves his security
detail and that he is deeply and genuinely
appreciative of their service. They could not like,
love, or respect anyone more than President Bush, and
most of them did not know they would feel this way
until they had an opportunity to work for him and
learn that his manner was genuine and consistent. It
has never changed in the time that he has been
President. He always treats them with the utmost
respect, kindness, and compassion.
:elvis: