Why Does The Rest Of The World Hate Us?

[JCOOK]

Ive' been struggling with this question for a long time now I throw it out to you.

[franksters]

to be honest , there is envy, and you guys make produce some of the best enterntainment in the universe no one can take that from you.

but on the bad side americans are seen this way mostly because they are always think that they are the BEST and frankly when you look at it the elite of this country provides the best and get the best and the rest 98.5% of the population are just followers of whatever the elite feeds them with...

americans are not even close to the culture and education in european country, they don't seem to know a lot about other culture and honestly don't give a fuck about it.

vacation for them happens in the states, they are patriotic like no one else.

a little close minded, like if it's not a steak and potatoe with ketchup...
they're in trouble...

every where they go they expect to see the same thing that they have in america , they are extremely dominent.

american military will only send some troops if it serves their needs (gas ect...)

america contribute to the global warming and pollution more than anybody else.

america buys a lot of product made in sweat shops around the world, in country that you don't even know it existed.

they are pro military: nobody else but them can have the ultimate weapon...

and finally if you are a black faggot that speaks french and you find yourself in the middle of nebraska...
you just wish you were never born..

I'm Canadian and I am so glad we said no to the war in irak, and more recently(yesterday) we said no to that anti missile thing..

I love the states anyway i've been through it by car twice from east to west.

and the only place i could live would be #1 cali #2 ny #3 florida

but unfortunatly I will never move there..

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by JCOOK
Ive' been struggling with this question for a long time now I throw it out to you.

You struggle with basic motor skills, so this doesn't surprise me in the least.

It's a moronic question to begin with. Who's us? The American people? The "rest of the world" doesn't hate us. They may hate our administration and It's policies, but then they should. Many of us Americans hate our administration and it's policies.

But if that's what you meant, and you've "struggled" with the question and think you'll find the answer here, then you're beyond help.

Read some books.
Do some research.





:rolleyes:

[franksters]

and travelling a little bit helps too!

[LoungeMachine]

Yes, good point.

Perhaps in his travels he'll learn what a Toady is....

[JCOOK]

Originally posted by franksters
to be honest , there is envy, and you guys make produce some of the best enterntainment in the universe no one can take that from you.

but on the bad side americans are seen this way mostly because they are always think that they are the BEST and frankly when you look at it the elite of this country provides the best and get the best and the rest 98.5% of the population are just followers of whatever the elite feeds them with...

americans are not even close to the culture and education in european country, they don't seem to know a lot about other culture and honestly don't give a fuck about it.

vacation for them happens in the states, they are patriotic like no one else.

a little close minded, like if it's not a steak and potatoe with ketchup...
they're in trouble...

every where they go they expect to see the same thing that they have in america , they are extremely dominent.

american military will only send some troops if it serves their needs (gas ect...)

america contribute to the global warming and pollution more than anybody else.

america buys a lot of product made in sweat shops around the world, in country that you don't even know it existed.

they are pro military: nobody else but them can have the ultimate weapon...

and finally if you are a black faggot that speaks french and you find yourself in the middle of nebraska...
you just wish you were never born..

I'm Canadian and I am so glad we said no to the war in irak, and more recently(yesterday) we said no to that anti missile thing..

I love the states anyway i've been through it by car twice from east to west.

and the only place i could live would be #1 cali #2 ny #3 florida

but unfortunatly I will never move there..

I tend to agree, We have more freedoms than anyone ...but we seem to be prostituting our children. It seems we will do anything to get on TV or be "famous" God forbid that people that make a difference in this world would be recognized .No we want to lift up Actors Atheletes and Entertainers...May GOD have mercy on our souls!:)

[JCOOK]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
You struggle with basic motor skills, so this doesn't surprise me in the least.

It's a moronic question to begin with. Who's us? The American people? The "rest of the world" doesn't hate us. They may hate our administration and It's policies, but then they should. Many of us Americans hate our administration and it's policies.

But if that's what you meant, and you've "struggled" with the question and think you'll find the answer here, then you're beyond help.

Read some books.
Do some research.

Here is some research FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING SIMPLE MINDED PIECE OF TOADY SHIT the rest of the world doesnt' hate us... who the fuck is a moron now I guess those that died on 9/11 didn't represent "us"They hate us because their GOD says so we are infidels go try and spout your free speech in Iran,Syria,China,N.Korea or any of a number of countriese who will slice your fucking throat.





:rolleyes:

[LoungeMachine]

Ever consider going back for that GED, Cookie?

[JCOOK]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Ever consider going back for that GED, Cookie?

Have a HS diploma and some college
Stop dancing

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by JCOOK
Have a HS diploma and some college
Stop dancing

It shows:rolleyes:

[Little_Skittles]

We are what we say we're against. It's that simple, american's are dumb everyone knows that. Americans judge people before they even know them, or so i've the impression. Example if your muslim you're a terrorist.

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Little_Skittles
We are what we say we're against. It's that simple, american's are dumb everyone knows that. Americans judge people before they even know them, or so i've the impression. Example if your muslim you're a terrorist.

Please don't lump all Americans into the right wing neo con mold.....

And before using the "dumb" card, you may want to police yourself.

:rolleyes:

[Little_Skittles]

not every american just the majority. that's my opinion though.

[JCOOK]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Please don't lump all Americans into the right wing neo con mold.....

And before using the "dumb" card, you may want to police yourself.

:rolleyes:

Hey Lounge thats the way that "they" look at us
I suppose you don't think that there is a "they"

[Kelly]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine

It's a moronic question to begin with. Who's us? The American people? The "rest of the world" doesn't hate us. They may hate our administration and It's policies, but then they should. Many of us Americans hate our administration and it's policies.

Read some books.
Do some research.

Dude, you got that right in my opinion. I have a number of American buddies and love 'em. American culture is a big influence on the world, some of it is great, some of it is shit.

I don't agree with much your current government is doing, but I recognise they don't necessarily speak for all of you.

Americans don't need to get all paranoid based on what a bunch of fundamentalist extremists present as their view of the world.

Rock on ya'll!!!



:rolleyes: [/B]

[JCOOK]

Originally posted by Kelly


How about the ones who want to kill us?

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by JCOOK
Ive' been struggling with this question for a long time now I throw it out to you.

I'm beginning to think there may be quite a few questions you've been struggling with for a long time....

[JCOOK]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
I'm beginning to think there may be quite a few questions you've been struggling with for a long time....

Again Louunge why do you make fun of those that THINK
On every TV and radio show this same question has been asked...Are you that much more enlightened that you can't even ponder the question

[blueturk]

So nobody in here thinks that our president has an impact on how the rest of the world thinks of us? Dubya's combination of cowboy bravado and sheer ineptitude in handling foreign affairs has to be considered. Have you ever noticed that when Bush goes to other countries that he gets a less than warm welcome from a sizeable percentage of the people there?

"I'm a war president. I make decisions here in the Oval Office in foreign-policy matters with war on my mind. Again, I wish it wasn't true, but it is true. And the American people need to know they got a president who sees the world the way it is. And I see dangers that exist, and it's important for us to deal with them." - George W. Bush, The Oval Office, February 7, 2004

[JCOOK]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
I'm beginning to think there may be quite a few questions you've been struggling with for a long time....

Oh keeper of the truth enlighten us ... show us the error of ourways. tell us what we should struggle with O master of the univers...FUCK YOU YOU ELITIST COCKSUCKER Im' tired of trying to understand you FAGGOTT YOU..LIKE YOUR BUDDY Ford only understand oneway..SEE YOU TOMORROW PINOCHA!


GOOD NITE NOW!

[Jano]

I don't hate american because i went to your country a lot and even lived there.I have very good americans friends.The only peoples i hate, are stupid peoples and they are everywhere in the world.We cannot hate peoples from a country just because of their leader that's very stupid.Saddly alot of peoples are this way,they don't like Bush so they don't like american.It's the same way with Chirac the french president,even here some of the member don't like my president so they hate the french but fuck them!

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Jano
I don't hate american because i went to your country a lot and even lived there.I have very good americans friends.The only peoples i hate, are stupid peoples and they are everywhere in the world.We cannot hate peoples from a country just because of their leader that's very stupid.Saddly alot of peoples are this way,they don't like Bush so they don't like american.It's the same way with Chirac the french president,even here some of the member don't like my president so they hate the french but fuck them!

Good post, Jano. Finally, a voice of reason from afar. :)

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by JCOOK
Oh keeper of the truth enlighten us ... show us the error of ourways. tell us what we should struggle with O master of the univers...FUCK YOU YOU ELITIST COCKSUCKER Im' tired of trying to understand you FAGGOTT YOU..LIKE YOUR BUDDY Ford only understand oneway..SEE YOU TOMORROW PINOCHA!


GOOD NITE NOW!

Gee,is someone having a nuttie?

I'm sorry I missed your little breakdown last night. I had plans.

You're tired of trying to understand me? Elitist ccoksucker?

It may be time to up your meds.......

Warn me next time you have this sort of meltdown coming...I woldn't want to miss it :D

[DrMaddVibe]

Jealousy, pure and simple.


No other nation on the planet is like ours. No other nation enjoys the Freedom we have. No other nation has obtained so much so soon. No other nation has been as giving. No other nation has proved itself with action. No other nation could keep up.

Jealousy, pure and simple.

[academic punk]

More like narcissism.

We don't contribute and share with the rest of the world half as much as we should.

I am not even talking among party lines right now. But the year I spent in Europe (The university of Edinburgh) really was a life-changing experiecne.

We don't even want to share amongst ourselves: look at the trend in taxes, health care, financial aid (by way of scholarships) for college.

We are a very ego-centric people. Which is fine: that MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE is what the country was founded on: we broke away from England b/c We DIDN'T WANT TO PAY THE TAXES.

And don't start in with we've always been about equality and justice.

The massacre of the native americans? slavery? blacks counting as three fifths of a person? women not having the right to vote until 80 years ago?

This country made a deal with the devil to come into existence. And it worked for decades - even centuries - because we were halfway around the globe from the rest of the world. But in todays world that isolation - both physical and mental - is now working against us.

[DrMaddVibe]

WWI, WWII, Korean Conflict, Vietnam, Gulf War...you stated narcissim?!?

Gimmie a break.

Your tirade about taxes is nothing new. We've always had to pay for the roads, the armies, the sewers and waterways and trades with them. "Render unto Ceasar what is Caesar's".

Healthcare is more of an affordable privilage than a right. Finiancial aid? Where was that covered in the Bill of Rights?

We are not a socialist society...YET. God willing and rational thinking prevailing we NEVER will be. If you desire those types of governments than move to them. Rescind your citizenship and go. There are people that would love to become US citizens legally that would love your spot and contribute.

Your mentions of massacres and injustices against humans isn't anything new. Every nation is ripe with the same grifters and murderers. We're humans and it's been going on since we started critical thinking.

We're not isolationists. Bosnia was a modern bloodbath that it's neighbors had turned it's proverbial back on. They even closed their borders! It wasn't until the US military stepped on the ground that the rest of the world became interested. I maintain the hope that the rest of the world will come to their senses when they can finally admit that they acted out of self interest towards the situation in Iraq now and behave in the manner that the UN was founded on.

America has and always will be a nation of action. Right or wrong it will not be in-different.

Study more about what made this nation a nation. Taxation was a part of it, just like slavery was a sidenote to the Civil War.

The only thing working against us as a nation is other nation's self-interests!

[academic punk]

Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
WWI, WWII, Korean Conflict, Vietnam, Gulf War...you stated narcissim?!?

Gimmie a break.

Your tirade about taxes is nothing new. We've always had to pay for the roads, the armies, the sewers and waterways and trades with them. "Render unto Ceasar what is Caesar's".

Healthcare is more of an affordable privilage than a right. Finiancial aid? Where was that covered in the Bill of Rights?

We are not a socialist society...YET. God willing and rational thinking prevailing we NEVER will be. If you desire those types of governments than move to them. Rescind your citizenship and go. There are people that would love to become US citizens legally that would love your spot and contribute.

Your mentions of massacres and injustices against humans isn't anything new. Every nation is ripe with the same grifters and murderers. We're humans and it's been going on since we started critical thinking.

We're not isolationists. Bosnia was a modern bloodbath that it's neighbors had turned it's proverbial back on. They even closed their borders! It wasn't until the US military stepped on the ground that the rest of the world became interested. I maintain the hope that the rest of the world will come to their senses when they can finally admit that they acted out of self interest towards the situation in Iraq now and behave in the manner that the UN was founded on.

America has and always will be a nation of action. Right or wrong it will not be in-different.

Study more about what made this nation a nation. Taxation was a part of it, just like slavery was a sidenote to the Civil War.

The only thing working against us as a nation is other nation's self-interests!


You were going good until the bit about slavery being a "side-note" to the Civil War. Then you blew it.

And, yes, I agree that we are not and should never be a socialist country. But that doesn't exclude the country's repsonsibility towards its fellow - and frequently less fortunate citizens.

THat's why unions came into existence (which I do belive for the most part should be abloished today): to make sure labor is treated fairly. Wages, healthcare, safe work environment. Before unions, THAT WAS NOT THE CASE. THAT'S WHY THE DEMAND EXISTED FOR THEM.

Read Fast Food Nation, for example. Now that many unions have either been abolished or side-stepped, those same sitautions and conditions exist again. The argument can easily be made that the cost of the unions is ineffective for business, and there is truth in that, but I think we can agree that the ideal situation for everybody exists somewhere in between. (a good compromise is one where nobody walks away happy)

[academic punk]

BTW, with all the wars you sighted, we didn't get involved until it was in out "interest".

Which is rational: why cost americans lives and money for something that isn't in our interest? But don';t say it's b/c we have such a big ol' heart. Please.

[DrMaddVibe]

After WWII it became apparant to the rest of the world that the Superpower title was passed on to us the USA.

With the role of being the World's Cop goes much responsibility. What other nation that held the title of Superpower looked after the globe in the manner that the US has? Let me help you out and give you the answer. NONE!

Once again you phrased issues that are exclusive to the US and labled them as reasons why other nations hate us. That isn't accurate. Uganda doesn't hate the US because the UAW wants a COLA! Great Britian and France were licking their chops with our own Civil War and were waiting to pick up where they left off.

IT's jealousy. Pure and simple.

[Jano]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
Good post, Jano. Finally, a voice of reason from afar. :)
Thank you BBB,how is your week-end so far?

[kentuckyklira]

Originally posted by JCOOK
We have more freedoms than anyone ??

You do??

:confused: :confused:

What freedoms do you have that I don´t??

[Jano]

Originally posted by kentuckyklira
??

You do??

:confused: :confused:

What freedoms do you have that I don´t??
That's a good one,i wonder also!

[DrMaddVibe]

Being absurd, I'm going to say the freedom to wear a Nazi uniform and wave a Nazi flag.

I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but the freedom to do that isn't in your capacity.

[academic punk]

Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
After WWII it became apparant to the rest of the world that the Superpower title was passed on to us the USA.

With the role of being the World's Cop goes much responsibility. What other nation that held the title of Superpower looked after the globe in the manner that the US has? Let me help you out and give you the answer. NONE!

Once again you phrased issues that are exclusive to the US and labled them as reasons why other nations hate us. That isn't accurate. Uganda doesn't hate the US because the UAW wants a COLA! Great Britian and France were licking their chops with our own Civil War and were waiting to pick up where they left off.

IT's jealousy. Pure and simple.

Okay...let's go with the top cop premise...rwanda? darfur? heck, even north korea?

Seems we do a pretty good job of policing only when it's in our interest. the rest of the time it's other countries and the united nations that take the lead.

but we obviously are coming at this from completely different angles. What do you say if and when the roth army has a get together we just continue this over beers?

(and the best beers are, after all, imported)

[academic punk]

Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
Being absurd, I'm going to say the freedom to wear a Nazi uniform and wave a Nazi flag.

I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but the freedom to do that isn't in your capacity.


not a good example (and, as he point out, it;s an absurd one), but proves the point.

[DrMaddVibe]

I do favor imported beers.

Kronenburg 1664, Abbey ales, Heineken and Guinness...BUT I do like Sam Adams lager and stouts!

If and when...I'll try to take you up on it! I don't know of any problem/issue that can't be solved over a couple of beers.

[DrMaddVibe]

The freedom to arm and form militias is one that you don't have.

[Jano]

Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
The freedom to arm and form militias is one that you don't have.
What 's the purpose of militia anyway?Kill your own people?

[Jano]

Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
I do favor imported beers.

Kronenburg 1664, Abbey ales, Heineken and Guinness...BUT I do like Sam Adams lager and stouts!

If and when...I'll try to take you up on it! I don't know of any problem/issue that can't be solved over a couple of beers.

Good choice for the 1664,good beer!

[DrMaddVibe]

Originally posted by Jano
What 's the purpose of militia anyway?Kill your own people?


I know the idea of any type of armed conflict is foreign to you so I'll take it easy on ya.

In some (not all) cases a well armed militia can and has defended it's nation until a proper military can show up.

It keeps a government in check. An armed coup can easily be carried out by a nation that only has it's army armed (that doesn't look right...oh well!).

Look back at Tiananmen Square. Freedom would've had a foothold and involved more people if the students had been armed. An army fighting against it's own citizens is an alarming sight. They were forced to become targets and road fill instead of being taken seriously. I'm positive if your own country had this freedom WWI and WWII would've taken less time or been confined to another area besides in your backyard and involving US armed forces!

I am not advocating the use of armed violence. I'm stating that it's a freedom that we enjoy in the USA. Crime statistics show that where there are open gun laws (sidearms on a holster) there is less violent crime. States have the right to govern how they interpret these laws but as a society we have that right to keep and bear arms. It doesn't advocate the use in felony crimes.

[kentuckyklira]

Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
Being absurd, I'm going to say the freedom to wear a Nazi uniform and wave a Nazi flag.

I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but the freedom to do that isn't in your capacity. OK, I´ll counter with afreedom I have and you don´t, and not an absurd one,

I can drink alcohol in public (for example a public park), no ridiculous brown bag necessary!

[FORD]

Originally posted by DrMaddVibe


Look back at Tiananmen Square. Freedom would've had a foothold and involved more people if the students had been armed. An army fighting against it's own citizens is an alarming sight. They were forced to become targets and road fill instead of being taken seriously.


http://www.retrorepros.com/images/posters/thumbnails/47008.jpg
Assvibe, do you really think a handgun would have done that poor bastard any good?

For the record, I have no problem with sane, law abiding citizens owning a reasonable number of firearms, but dude, that example really sucked. :D

[kentuckyklira]

Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
The freedom to arm and form militias is one that you don't have. And thank god for that.

I one the other hand, (in my part of Germany) have the freedom to take drugs without risking jail for doing it!

I don´t have to ask anyone if I want to visit Cuba.

Age of consent is 14.

No speed limit on the autobahn.

[DrMaddVibe]

Originally posted by kentuckyklira
OK, I´ll counter with afreedom I have and you don´t, and not an absurd one,

I can drink alcohol in public (for example a public park), no ridiculous brown bag necessary!

I can too. It's called going to the bar.

[DrMaddVibe]

Originally posted by FORD
http://www.retrorepros.com/images/posters/thumbnails/47008.jpg
Assvibe, do you really think a handgun would have done that poor bastard any good?

For the record, I have no problem with sane, law abiding citizens owning a reasonable number of firearms, but dude, that example really sucked. :D

That one guy...no. If all of the protesters had of been armed they wouldn't have brought out the tanks.

[DrMaddVibe]

Originally posted by kentuckyklira
And thank god for that.

I one the other hand, (in my part of Germany) have the freedom to take drugs without risking jail for doing it!

I don´t have to ask anyone if I want to visit Cuba.

Age of consent is 14.

No speed limit on the autobahn.


Taking drugs isn't a freedom, it's a weakness if it's for recreational usage.

I can ask all I want to as well, I can go to Cuba too. I will have to fill out some paperwork though.

I don't have the compelling urge to fuck a 14 year old.

I've lived in Germany. There are speed limits on the Autobahn.

[kentuckyklira]

Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
I can too. It's called going to the bar. I can go to a bar, or just get a beer and hang out in the sun. I´m free to do as I wish and you´re not!

[kentuckyklira]

Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
That one guy...no. If all of the protesters had of been armed they wouldn't have brought out the tanks. You´re not very good at history, are you?

[kentuckyklira]

Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
Taking drugs isn't a freedom, it's a weakness if it's for recreational usage.

I can ask all I want to as well, I can go to Cuba too. I will have to fill out some paperwork though.

I don't have the compelling urge to fuck a 14 year old.

I've lived in Germany. There are speed limits on the Autobahn. So, you define "freedom" randomly according to your agenda.

Germans can arm themselves. They just have to fill out some paperwork though!:p

I don´t have the urge to own firearms, that´s irrelevant if we´re talking "freedoms" here.

The autobahn has speed limits where anything else would be suicidal or negligent. That´s called common sense.

[Dan]

Originally posted by Little_Skittles
We are what we say we're against. It's that simple, american's are dumb everyone knows that. Americans judge people before they even know them, or so i've the impression. Example if your muslim you're a terrorist.

That's a Tough Call calling American's Dumb.Every Country has it's problems.I Like alot of American's.

[Little_Skittles]

Maybe it's not americans i have a problem with it's their government. But the people eat what their fed. Yes every country does have it's problems, but isn't the grass always greener on the other side of the fence?

[Dan]

Originally posted by Little_Skittles
Maybe it's not americans i have a problem with it's their government. But the people eat what their fed. Yes every country does have it's problems, but isn't the grass always greener on the other side of the fence?

Here in New Zealand we try and stay out of the Bullshit that's happening in the World,but we do help out when we can.

The grass is not always greener on the other side of the fence LS.

BTW..If you have not been to New Zealand yet what are you doing then?

[academic punk]

Dan, did you just invite a 16 year old to stay with you at your place?

Ewww.

[Dan]

Originally posted by academic punk
Dan, did you just invite a 16 year old to stay with you at your place?

Ewww.

No, I was meaning for people who have not been to N.Z yet to come down and see how beautiful it's.

[DrMaddVibe]

Originally posted by kentuckyklira
You´re not very good at history, are you?

Oh do tell.

I suppose you're going to tell me how free the Chinese people are today because of the student rebellion?

[FORD]

Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
Oh do tell.

I suppose you're going to tell me how free the Chinese people are today because of the student rebellion?

Since neocons like yourself confuse "capitalism" with "freedom", then by that definition, they would be considerably more "free" than they were in 1989.

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by Jano
What 's the purpose of militia anyway?Kill your own people?
Yes.


:spank:

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by Jano
What 's the purpose of militia anyway?Kill your own people?
And foreigners, too.;)


:spank:<marquee direction=left>

[Phil theStalker]

We're mean and nasty.

Benjamin Franklin wrote his son William out of his last will.

http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/books/RevWar/ss/franklin.htm

"Ironically, while Franklin was working on the Declaration, his son William, a militant Loyalist and the last Royal governor of New Jersey, was being incarcerated in Connecticut."

Dat's mean.


:spank:

[Jano]

Originally posted by Phil theStalker
We're mean and nasty.

Benjamin Franklin wrote his son William out of his last will.

http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/books/RevWar/ss/franklin.htm

"Ironically, while Franklin was working on the Declaration, his son William, a militant Loyalist and the last Royal governor of New Jersey, was being incarcerated in Connecticut."

Dat's mean.


:spank:
But never forget "big brother" is watching you!

[DrMaddVibe]

Originally posted by FORD
Since neocons like yourself confuse "capitalism" with "freedom", then by that definition, they would be considerably more "free" than they were in 1989.

Define how the Chinese people as a whole are more free since the rebellion.

If anything they escalated their "one nation" stance and are not allowing any deviation.

The Chinese practice capitalism to maintain the "freedom" they want.

[FORD]

They can work in a Nike sweatshop and eat at McDonalds now! Those guys in T-Square never had that opportunity, right?

[DrMaddVibe]

Then YOU'RE the "neocon"!

[FORD]

No, I was being sarcastic, trying to point out that freedom in THIS country no longer means what it used to.

Because when BCE economic policies cause your job to be outsourced, you can always work for WalMart, right?

Capitalism is not freedom. That was my point.

[academic punk]

And freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose...

sorry. couldn't resist.

[DrMaddVibe]

So, maybe you'd like to answer the question I posed earlier.

"Define how the Chinese people as a whole are more free since the rebellion."

Did your "hero" with a flower make any impact there? I understand that it makes for a good album cover or a rock video but how did it serve the Chinese people?

[JCOOK]

Originally posted by kentuckyklira
OK, I´ll counter with afreedom I have and you don´t, and not an absurd one,

I can drink alcohol in public (for example a public park), no ridiculous brown bag necessary!

Were you not the people who killed six million JEWS. You should not ever have the right to smell a fucking beer. you can't call me a rascist cause I'm white too. Some white people should have been purged from this planet.The cowards that sat by and let their country commit the holocaust should never have a voice ever IMO!

[kentuckyklira]

Originally posted by JCOOK
Were you not the people who killed six million JEWS. You should not ever have the right to smell a fucking beer. you can't call me a rascist cause I'm white too. Some white people should have been purged from this planet.The cowards that sat by and let their country commit the holocaust should never have a voice ever IMO! Wow, so I´m responsible for something that happened over 30 years BEFORE I was born!

Wonderful!

May I call you a fucking slaver then?

Or a guy who raped and murdered Native Americans?

Cool!

[academic punk]

JC -

For a guy who started this thread asking why he has a problem understanding why the world feels the way it does about this country, and then make a post like that, come on...i hate to say it, but you're making Lounge Machine look very good right now.

I wonder if you would say somehting that ignorant with Natra standing rgiht in front of you.

[Dr. Love]

Originally posted by kentuckyklira
Wow, so I´m responsible for something that happened over 30 years BEFORE I was born!

Wonderful!

May I call you a fucking slaver then?

Or a guy who raped and murdered Native Americans?

Cool!

You know, I have to completely agree with this.

[Dr. Love]

Oh, and 14 being the age of consent is very disturbing (to me). I'm not attracted to children.

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by academic punk
JC -

For a guy who started this thread asking why he has a problem understanding why the world feels the way it does about this country, and then make a post like that, come on...i hate to say it, but you're making Lounge Machine look very good right now.

I wonder if you would say somehting that ignorant with Natra standing rgiht in front of you.

Hate to say it?:D

This thread does seem to be turning on him.

He throws the word racist around alot for someone with HIS views:rolleyes:

[WHOYOUFUCKINJOE]

14's much too old. I think they should drop the age of consent to 6

[FORD]

Blunder should be on the Michael Jackson jury, as any American citizen is entitled to a trial by a jury of his/her peers.

And it's a little difficult to find 12 pedophiles who live in a dream world. Shouldn't pass up that opportunity, Joey.

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by FORD
Blunder should be on the Michael Jackson jury, as any American citizen is entitled to a trial by a jury of his/her peers.

And it's a little difficult to find 12 pedophiles who live in a dream world. Shouldn't pass up that opportunity, Joey.

Fucking classic:D

[WHOYOUFUCKINJOE]

Duh, uh, you didn't make no, uh announcement about cerrone fox. Uh how did I know before you, huh. The humiliation has to have hit an all time high hasn't it there lounge. The utter silence on the matter says it all stupid.

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by WHOYOUFUCKINJOE
Duh, uh, you didn't make no, uh announcement about cerrone fox. Uh how did I know before you, huh. The humiliation has to have hit an all time high hasn't it there lounge. The utter silence on the matter says it all stupid.

Hi Joey,

Hey, while you're here, would you mind telling everyone how you own this site, wrote classic Van Halen songs, spoke at the RNC, and recently checked yourself out of rehab for coke addiction?

Or if that's too much trouble, perhaps you could just tell us what it's like being on trial for child molestation, since you have "first hand" knowledge....

Could you do that?

And isn't 6 years old even too young for you?

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by JCOOK
Were

. you can't call me a rascist cause I'm white too.

Could someone explain this "logic" to me?

[LoungeMachine]

I guess joey had to run......

[DLR7884]

Originally posted by Little_Skittles
not every american just the majority. that's my opinion though.

Your opinion, just like your breath, stinks.

DLR7884
YOU DO NOT BELONG HERE!

[JCOOK]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Hate to say it?:D

This thread does seem to be turning on him.

He throws the word racist around alot for someone with HIS views:rolleyes:

Sorry LM but I hate germans.....I know its' a fucked up blanket statement but its' very personsal ... Maybe Ill' come to grips with it someday and and tell you about it. By the way who is Natra?

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by JCOOK
Sorry LM but I hate germans.....I know its' a fucked up blanket statement but its' very personsal ... Maybe Ill' come to grips with it someday and and tell you about it. By the way who is Natra?

Natra is DavidLeeNatra.

Cool guy, fellow musician, and yes he's a "kraut"

No need to apologize or defend your feelings. They're your feelings. My issue with you was when you accused ME of being a racist.

Ask ANYONE in here, they'll tell you I'm by no means racist in any way, shape, or form. In fact, I call out idiots like Joe Thunder for being true racists.

Cool?:cool:

[JCOOK]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Natra is DavidLeeNatra.

Cool guy, fellow musician, and yes he's a "kraut"

No need to apologize or defend your feelings. They're your feelings. My issue with you was when you accused ME of being a racist.

Ask ANYONE in here, they'll tell you I'm by no means racist in any way, shape, or form. In fact, I call out idiots like Joe Thunder for being true racists.

Cool?:cool:

My sincerest apolgies for calling you a rascist.

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by JCOOK
My sincerest apolgies for calling you a rascist.

:cool:

[DrMaddVibe]

BEIJING (Reuters) - Chinese security forces took up position in Beijing by the tens of thousands on Friday as delegates gathered for the annual session of parliament, ready to crush any display of dissent.

Cars entering the capital on a sunny but cold and blustery morning were being searched, with new security measures including a ban on hot air balloons and parachutes over the city.

President Hu Jintao and Premier Wen Jiabao have focused on narrowing the gap between rich and poor since they came to power two years ago, but police have already removed at least one group of disgruntled farmers from the capital for protesting.

"More than 650,000 people will stand guard and go on patrol on the city's streets and lanes every day to guarantee security," the Legal Evening Post quoted a Public Security Bureau official as saying.

China's leaders also fear public grieving for ousted Communist Party chief Zhao Ziyang, who opposed the use of force to suppress student-led protests in Tiananmen Square in 1989, could spiral into protest and Sunday marks the end of the traditional mourning period. He died on Jan. 17.

The National People's Congress opens on Saturday with an anti-secession bill that could give China a legal basis to attack rival Taiwan high on the agenda, and questions still hanging over Hong Kong Chief Executive Tung Chee-hwa who sources say has quit.

Officials were taking every measure to ensure the 10-day session of meetings is carried off without disruption.

State television showed bomb-sniffing dogs patrolling Tiananmen Square and around the adjacent Great Hall of the People. It showed kitchen staff washing vegetables to make sure the 3,000-odd delegates eat only the cleanest food.

Cars were being stopped at toll gates at the city limits, the identity of passengers checked and boots searched.

Beijing has even gone so far as to ban hot air balloons and parachutes over the city "to prevent Falun Gong members and violent terrorists from using flying objects to make trouble," the China News reported, referring to the spiritual movement that surprised leaders with a 1999 protest at their tightly guarded compound.