Missile Counter Attach

[Angel]

I hope Ms. Rice reads this, she could definitely use the education!

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/westview/story/2610442p-3026695c.html

Missile Counter-Attack
Axworthy fires back at U.S. -- and Canadian -- critics of our BMD decision in An Open Letter to U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice

Thu Mar 3 2005

By LLOYD AXWORTHY



Dear Condi, I'm glad you've decided to get over your fit of pique and venture north to visit your closest neighbour. It's a chance to learn a thing or two. Maybe more.
I know it seems improbable to your divinely guided master in the White House that mere mortals might disagree with participating in a missile-defence system that has failed in its last three tests, even though the tests themselves were carefully rigged to show results.

But, gosh, we folks above the 49th parallel are somewhat cautious types who can't quite see laying down billions of dollars in a three-dud poker game.

As our erstwhile Prairie-born and bred (and therefore prudent) finance minister pointed out in presenting his recent budget, we've had eight years of balanced or surplus financial accounts. If we're going to spend money, Mr. Goodale added, it will be on day-care and health programs, and even on more foreign aid and improved defence.

Sure, that doesn't match the gargantuan, multi-billion-dollar deficits that your government blithely runs up fighting a "liberation war" in Iraq, laying out more than half of all weapons expenditures in the world, and giving massive tax breaks to the top one per cent of your population while cutting food programs for poor children.

Just chalk that up to a different sense of priorities about what a national government's role should be when there isn't a prevailing mood of manifest destiny. Coming to Ottawa might also expose you to a parliamentary system that has a thing called question period every day, where those in the executive are held accountable by an opposition for their actions, and where demands for public debate on important topics such a missile defence can be made openly.

You might also notice that it's a system in which the governing party's caucus members are not afraid to tell their leader that their constituents don't want to follow the ideological, perhaps teleological, fantasies of Canada's continental co-inhabitant. And that this leader actually listens to such representations.

Your boss did not avail himself of a similar opportunity to visit our House of Commons during his visit, fearing, it seems, that there might be some signs of dissent. He preferred to issue his diktat on missile defence in front of a highly controlled, pre-selected audience.

Such control-freak antics may work in the virtual one-party state that now prevails in Washington. But in Canada we have a residual belief that politicians should be subject to a few checks and balances, an idea that your country once espoused before the days of empire.

If you want to have us consider your proposals and positions, present them in a proper way, through serious discussion across the table in our cabinet room, as your previous president did when he visited Ottawa. And don't embarrass our prime minister by lobbing a verbal missile at him while he sits on a public stage, with no chance to respond.

Now, I understand that there may have been some miscalculations in Washington based on faulty advice from your resident governor of the "northern territories," Ambassador Cellucci. But you should know by now that he hasn't really won the hearts and minds of most Canadians through his attempts to browbeat and command our allegiance to U.S. policies. Sadly, Mr. Cellucci has been far too closeted with exclusive groups of 'experts' from Calgary think-tanks and neo-con lobbyists at cross-border conferences to remotely grasp a cross-section of Canadian attitudes (nor American ones, for that matter).

I invite you to expand the narrow perspective that seems to inform your opinions of Canada by ranging far wider in your reach of contacts and discussions. You would find that what is rising in Canada is not so much anti-Americanism, as claimed by your and our right-wing commentators, but fundamental disagreements with certain policies of your government. You would see that rather than just reacting to events by drawing on old conventional wisdoms, many Canadians are trying to think our way through to some ideas that can be helpful in building a more secure world.

These Canadians believe that security can be achieved through well-modulated efforts to protect the rights of people, not just nation-states.

To encourage and advance international co-operation on managing the risk of climate change, they believe that we need agreements like Kyoto.

To protect people against international crimes like genocide and ethnic cleansing, they support new institutions like the International Criminal Court -- which, by the way, you might strongly consider using to hold accountable those committing atrocities today in Darfur, Sudan.

And these Canadians believe that the United Nations should indeed be reformed -- beginning with an agreement to get rid of the veto held by the major powers over humanitarian interventions to stop violence and predatory practices.

On this score, you might want to explore the concept of the 'Responsibility to Protect' while you're in Ottawa. It's a Canadian idea born out of the recent experience of Kosovo and informed by the many horrific examples of inhumanity over the last half-century. Many Canadians feel it has a lot more relevance to providing real human security in the world than missile defence ever will.

This is not just some quirky notion concocted in our long winter nights, by the way. It seems to have appeal for many in your own country, if not the editorialists at the Wall Street Journal or Rush Limbaugh. As I discovered recently while giving a series of lectures in southern California, there is keen interest in how the U.S. can offer real leadership in managing global challenges of disease, natural calamities and conflict, other than by military means.

There is also a very strong awareness on both sides of the border of how vital Canada is to the U.S. as a partner in North America. We supply copious amounts of oil and natural gas to your country, our respective trade is the world's largest in volume, and we are increasingly bound together by common concerns over depletion of resources, especially very scarce fresh water. Why not discuss these issues with Canadians who understand them, and seek out ways to better cooperate in areas where we agree -- and agree to respect each other's views when we disagree.

Above all, ignore the Cassandras who deride the state of our relations because of one missile-defence decision. Accept that, as a friend on your border, we will offer a different, independent point of view. And that there are times when truth must speak to power.


In friendship,

Lloyd Axworthy


Lloyd Axworthy is president of the


University of Winnipeg and a former Canadian foreign minister.

[Big Train]

OUCH!!! COndi got served!!! Winnipeg FREE Press...what an authority.


Please stop..this thread is embarassing. The stuff NOT mentioned in his utopian vision here are too numerous to count, yet oddly, Canadian.

[Warham]

::crickets chirping::

[WACF]

The fact it does not work is important though....

The article's relevancy has nothing to do with the Winnipeg free press...It was written by Lloyd Axworthy...that would be more the point.
What is he to you...nothing...but his opinion is worth more than any reporter's.
Condo know's who he is....

[FORD]

Excellent article, Mr. Axworthy. At least there's one other honorable politician on this continent, besides Howard Dean.

[DrMaddVibe]

Circle of Trust Canada...

When you're out...you're out!

[Warham]

Does Mr. Axworthy believe all blacks in Canada work in hotels?

[Big Train]

It's being perfected still. "It doesn't work" is caveman thinking..by that rationale we would be having this discussion on cold rocks next to a fire.

It WILL work and WILL go on. The guns vs. butter Canadiens routinely make to deride the US is comical. Especially when you consider that our firepower allows you the option to buy more butter (er, Healthcare etc..) than guns. But again I repeat myself..

[Angel]

Originally posted by Big Train
OUCH!!! COndi got served!!! Winnipeg FREE Press...what an authority.


Please stop..this thread is embarassing. The stuff NOT mentioned in his utopian vision here are too numerous to count, yet oddly, Canadian.

You obviously do not know who Mr. Axworthy is. As WACF said, I'm sure Condi does... then again, she's BCE, wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't know.

Axworthy has a utopian vision? He was in politics far too long for that... he simply speaks the truth. ;)

[Big Train]

No I don't nor do I care. From his words, I can see he lives in a simple world. I'm sure it hurt condi, so much so she has no comment.

[Angel]

Yes, the man who: became internationally known for his advancement of the human security concept, in particular, the Ottawa Treaty - a landmark global treaty banning anti-personnel landmines; received the North-South Institute’s Peace Award for his efforts in establishing the International Criminal Court and the Protocol on child soldiers; The Vietnam Veterans of America Foundation presented him with the Senator Patrick J. Leahy Award in recognition of his leadership in the global effort to outlaw landmines and the use of children as soldiers and to bring war criminals to justice... must live in a simple world.

:rolleyes:

I'm sure Dr. Axworthy knows far more about the world than you could ever hope to.

[Big Train]

Thanks for underestimating me..no wonder Canada is always #2...

The guy knows about landmines that's great. He has done great things. Yay. What does that have to do with the US plans? Nothing, right..

[Angel]

BT, you're too fucking stupid to bother with today. Get someone with half a brain like ashcroft on this... your ignorance is a real pain in the ass sometimes, and I mean ignorance in the true sense of the word.

[Wayne L.]

Canada is a joke of a country excluding great rock bands like the Guess Who & Rush because it's citizens can't figure out whether they want to speak english or french.

[Angel]

Originally posted by Wayne L.
Canada is a joke of a country excluding great rock bands like the Guess Who & Rush because it's citizens can't figure out whether they want to speak english or french.

No, we're a smart country because we can speak both! ;)

[Big Train]

Angel,

Fuck you today, ok. You general retardness is more than any of us should have to handle.

Because I disagree with you, don't get all hurt. I'm a pain in the ass because as you say "I speak the truth".

[Angel]

Ummmm... if you knew the truth, perhaps you would speak it.

And fuck you too! ;)

[scorpioboy33]

Angel don't try to argue with the retards...Lets see Americas record

Slavery - Yes
Pollution Control ie Kyoto - NO
Setting up of facist pupet regimes- Yes
Gun Control - NO
Highest by far amount of Gun Related Deaths - Yes
Will fall like Rome in the future - Hell Yes!

[Big Train]

Scorpio, she isn't arguing with retards,she always takes her fellow Canadians side..:)

[scorpioboy33]

three little letters WMD?

[Big Train]

Good, that's enough work for today Scorpio...next week we will work on three more letters..xyz, then abc, then def...at some point you will be able to make words with them...yay..

Before we question each other's intelligence anymore, how about the Canuck responsible for this thread goes back and fixes the thread title? A casual observer might think we are talking about a well armed attache case, possibly a Halliburton and I wouldnt want to confuse the issue anymore...

[scorpioboy33]

oh well fuck it...your a good guy and it's only politics!

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by scorpioboy33
Angel don't try to argue with the retards...Lets see Americas record

Slavery - Yes
Pollution Control ie Kyoto - NO
Setting up of facist pupet regimes- Yes
Gun Control - NO
Highest by far amount of Gun Related Deaths - Yes
Will fall like Rome in the future - Hell Yes!

May I add = Wiping out nearly an entire race, stealing their land, and then reneging on every treaty they ever signed.......:rolleyes:


The parallels with ROME are striking.


We walk this earth as if as Americans we OWN it, and that shall be our downfall.

But the far right couldn't care less.....they're wating for the Rapture:rolleyes:

[LoungeMachine]

For the record,

Big Train, along with Cathedral, is actually very articulate, quite engaging, and a pleasure to debate with.

For a Neocon Shitrbag, he's alright with me. We could use MORE with his balance and open mindness

[scorpioboy33]

I do like B.T. absolutely :) I just get mad about stupid things..Cathedral not so much!
anyway great avatar!

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by scorpioboy33
I do like B.T. absolutely :) I just get mad about stupid things..Cathedral not so much!
anyway great avatar!

He went and died on my Birthday.

Weird thing is, I put him on as my avatar 2 days prior to that....



creepy:confused:


He was a great writer

[Warham]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
May I add = Wiping out nearly an entire race, stealing their land, and then reneging on every treaty they ever signed.......:rolleyes:


The parallels with ROME are striking.


We walk this earth as if as Americans we OWN it, and that shall be our downfall.

But the far right couldn't care less.....they're wating for the Rapture:rolleyes:

Well, I'm not waiting for any Rapture, so I'm sure what you are getting at here.

Like a typical liberal, you like to point out our country's flaws in our history rather than point out the good things we have done. Always a pessimist.

You Canadians better hope America doesn't fall. You'll be the toilet paper that's hanging on for dear life around the turd getting flushed.

[frets5150]

:D

[scorpioboy33]

Originally posted by Warham
You Canadians better hope America doesn't fall. You'll be the toilet paper that's hanging on for dear life around the turd getting flushed.

thats fantastic...you said if for me.....

america would equal the turd getting flushed! haha

[Warham]

I don't think you get the point, 33.

[scorpioboy33]

well whatever...you see I don't think you get the point or Bush...In Canada we are free to do what we want wether it be our Pot Laws...choosing not to participate in a war over WMD..or put in for some silly missle system....it's our right...the difference is the rest of the world doesn't hate us because we don't put our opinions/theocratic government on others....
Anyway thats just my opinion..everyones entitled to theirs :)

[Big Train]

I guess we just need to find a way to make the missle shield NOT protect Canada.

But let's revisit this ONE more time. Once operational and functional, this system will protect America. Being that we materially subsidize Canada's military, any attack (however remote) that would affect Canada, America would respond to.

So, for all intents and purposes, Canada by refusing to help us with the "silly missle system" would essentially be getting yet ANOTHER layer of FREE protection courtesy of the US, which further allows them to let their military rot and divert the money to socialist causes, giving liberals everywhere something to rail against the US about, using Canada as some utopian example of how things SHOULD be done, while convienently forgetting the facts by which this is made even remotely possible.

This article is just the latest example.

For the record, I like debating you silly liberal fucks too.

[scorpioboy33]

dude your very well spoken (written)

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Big Train
I guess we just need to find a way to make the missle shield NOT protect Canada.

But let's revisit this ONE more time. Once operational and functional, this system will protect America. Being that we materially subsidize Canada's military, any attack (however remote) that would affect Canada, America would respond to.

So, for all intents and purposes, Canada by refusing to help us with the "silly missle system" would essentially be getting yet ANOTHER layer of FREE protection courtesy of the US, which further allows them to let their military rot and divert the money to socialist causes, giving liberals everywhere something to rail against the US about, using Canada as some utopian example of how things SHOULD be done, while convienently forgetting the facts by which this is made even remotely possible.

This article is just the latest example.

For the record, I like debating you silly liberal fucks too.

Why WOULD the Canadians want this piece of shit? The system is inherently flawed and probably will never work right. Instead, the US should focus on new technologies and stop this ABM stupidity, there's a reason they were outlawed in the early 70's, because they are too easy to fool with dummy warhead MIRV's and you end up deploying nuclear warheads on them to blast everything in the vicinity of an incoming missile.

The resulting EMP blast in the atmosphere will fry every fucking piece of electronics you have from a computer to an automatic transmission. "Hitting a bullet with a bullet" is not technically feasible.

BTW, rogue states won't fire at Canada, what would be their reasoning?

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Warham

You Canadians better hope America doesn't fall. You'll be the toilet paper that's hanging on for dear life around the turd getting flushed.

We will have to check with our judges on this but.....

THIS MAY BE THE WORST ANALOGY IN THE HISTORY OF THESE FORUMS.....








Yes!!! The judges are unanimous:D


Well Done Warpig.

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Big Train


For the record, I like debating you silly liberal fucks too.

What good is being a hypocritical, NeoCon shitbag if you don't have anyone to bounce your ridiculous arguments off of :D

We're here for you, BT

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh

BTW, rogue states won't fire at Canada, what would be their reasoning?

Like Rummy to Richard Clarke when discussing Afghanistan

"there are no good targets, let's bomb Iraq"

However a strike on the offices of Celine Dion's Management Company isnt unwarranted:D

[Big Train]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Why WOULD the Canadians want this piece of shit? The system is inherently flawed and probably will never work right. Instead, the US should focus on new technologies and stop this ABM stupidity, there's a reason they were outlawed in the early 70's, because they are too easy to fool with dummy warhead MIRV's and you end up deploying nuclear warheads on them to blast everything in the vicinity of an incoming missile.

The resulting EMP blast in the atmosphere will fry every fucking piece of electronics you have from a computer to an automatic transmission. "Hitting a bullet with a bullet" is not technically feasible.

BTW, rogue states won't fire at Canada, what would be their reasoning?


Thank you Nick, for your "let's stay in the stone age forever, it'll never work" thinking. It will work, in fact a few weeks ago it hit it's target perfectly.

Why attack Canada? Because it is the weak point. If America is defended heavily, why not just wait till the weather conditions were right (say the wind blowing south) and aim for Toronto or Montreal. Then they could sit back and watch as the wind brings us progressive death. Somebody like Al-Zachari (Have no idea how to spell that) has no concern over who he kills in the process of attaining his goal, as any Iraqui could tell you. What makes you think Canada is "off-limits"? People talk about American hubris all the time, but this Canadian "were the good guys we aren't America crap" is exactly what makes them weak and primed to be attacked.

[Big Train]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
What good is being a hypocritical, NeoCon shitbag if you don't have anyone to bounce your ridiculous arguments off of :D

We're here for you, BT

LIkewise, I know your a liberal nutjob but you have hobbies to attend to and can't scream your head off in the streets the way you used to while people ignored you.

I'm here to repeat myself endlessly and S-l-o-w-l-y until you actually realize what your saying is some of the most oversimplified drivel this side of a 2nd grade reading exam.

I'm here to help you recover. It's NOT your fault you are a liberal fuckface. It's not YOUR Fault..sob sob..we can beat this together...I'm here for you pal.

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Big Train


what your saying is some of the most oversimplified drivel this side of a 2nd grade reading exam.

.

Well, I want you to be able to comprehend it, don't I?;)

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Big Train
LIkewise, I know your a liberal nutjob but you have hobbies to attend to and can't scream your head off in the streets the way you used to while people ignored you.



Were the voices in my head bothering you?

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Big Train
Thank you Nick, for your "let's stay in the stone age forever, it'll never work" thinking. It will work, in fact a few weeks ago it hit it's target perfectly.

Why attack Canada? Because it is the weak point. If America is defended heavily, why not just wait till the weather conditions were right (say the wind blowing south) and aim for Toronto or Montreal. Then they could sit back and watch as the wind brings us progressive death. Somebody like Al-Zachari (Have no idea how to spell that) has no concern over who he kills in the process of attaining his goal, as any Iraqui could tell you. What makes you think Canada is "off-limits"? People talk about American hubris all the time, but this Canadian "were the good guys we aren't America crap" is exactly what makes them weak and primed to be attacked.

Sorry, didn't mean to contest your "let's throw $billions away on piece of shit, conceptually flawed weapon systems in hopes that one day they'll work."
http://www.happyhobby.com/hobb_html/images/tamiya/1957135126.JPG
http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Bunker/8757/SGTYORK1.jpg

[The Scatologist]

The missile defense system will NEVER fucking work. It's fucking stupid. There have been missiles with multiple warheads that split up, and dummy warheads for a long ass time.

[Warham]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
We will have to check with our judges on this but.....

THIS MAY BE THE WORST ANALOGY IN THE HISTORY OF THESE FORUMS.....








Yes!!! The judges are unanimous:D


Well Done Warpig.

As the judge here, I say it's one of the best.

Thank you for asking.

[Big Train]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Sorry, didn't mean to contest your "let's throw $billions away on piece of shit, conceptually flawed weapon systems in hopes that one day they'll work."
http://www.happyhobby.com/hobb_html/images/tamiya/1957135126.JPG
http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Bunker/8757/SGTYORK1.jpg

One day is HERE. It already did have a few successful runs and will continue to get better.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Big Train
One day is HERE. It already did have a few successful runs and will continue to get better.

Muhuhawhawhawhaw! They can't even hit anything in a "fixed" test! How are they going to hit an incoming missile with MIRV's?
http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Usa/Weapons/W78a.jpg
http://www.softwar.net/MIRV.GIF

[LoungeMachine]

Jesus H. Christ Nick, there you again....

using logic and reason to debate with.....

What the hell is wrong with you. Have you learned nothing?

These are the same people who tied 9/11 to Iraq, went in looking for WMD, and now are building 14 permanent military Bases there.

Stop the madness.

Logic and reason will not be tolerated by this Administration

[Warham]

I know your brain doesn't tolerate it.

:D

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Warham
I know your brain doesn't tolerate it.

:D

Thanks for even acknowledging I HAVE a brain, W:D

It's a step...

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Jesus H. Christ Nick, there you again....

using logic and reason to debate with.....

What the hell is wrong with you. Have you learned nothing?

These are the same people who tied 9/11 to Iraq, went in looking for WMD, and now are building 14 permanent military Bases there.

Stop the madness.

Logic and reason will not be tolerated by this Administration

Perhaps if we drank some of this, we'd understand!
http://www.worth1000.com/entries/54500/54894OTws_w.jpg

[Big Train]

Muhuhawhawhawhaw, indeed you ignorant fuck (ask lounge, its a sign of endearment).


Thursday, February 24, 2005 · Last updated 4:09 p.m. PT

Experimental interceptor downs missile

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS


WASHINGTON -- An experimental naval interceptor shot down a short-range ballistic missile target during a test over the Pacific Ocean on Thursday, missile defense officials said.

It is the fifth kill in six tries for the interceptor, called a Standard Missile-3, said Rick Lehner, a spokesman for the Pentagon's Missile Defense Agency.

During the test, a target ballistic missile, similar to a Scud, was launched from the island of Kauai at 4 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. The USS Lake Erie, a cruiser equipped with the Aegis radar system and stationed 100 miles offshore, tracked the ballistic missile and then fired the interceptor to shoot it down. Two minutes later, the missiles collided.

The SM-3 interceptor will be deployed on ships later this year, Lehner said.

Also involved in the test was the Aegis destroyer USS Russell, which tested some of its missile-tracking systems.

The SM-3 doesn't have the range of the experimental land-based national missile defenses located in Alaska and California, and it is envisioned for use in protecting allies or U.S. forces from short-range ballistic missiles launched over a body of water. Potential scenarios where it could see action include missiles fired by North Korea at Japan, or by China at Taiwan.

However, the tracking system on some naval vessels is designed to assist in hunting intercontinental ballistic missiles.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Big Train
Muhuhawhawhawhaw, indeed you ignorant fuck (ask lounge, its a sign of endearment).



Thursday, February 24, 2005 � Last updated 4:09 p.m. PT

Experimental interceptor downs missile

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS


WASHINGTON -- An experimental naval interceptor shot down a short-range ballistic missile target ...


Train, you ignorant slut...Sometimes it works, sometimes she don't! Well worth billions of dollars.


Missile defense system flunks test
Interceptor fails to launch

Wednesday, February 16, 2005 Posted: 11:40 AM EST (1640 GMT)

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/TECH/02/14/missile.defense.ap/story.missile.defense.jpg

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A test of the U.S. missile defense system failed Monday when an interceptor missile did not launch from its island base in the Pacific Ocean, the military said. It was the second failure in months for the experimental program.

A statement from the Missile Defense Agency said the cause of the failure was under investigation.

A spokesman for the agency, Rick Lehner, said the early indications was that there was a malfunction with the ground support equipment at the test range on Kwajalein Island in the Marshall Islands, not with the missile interceptor itself.

If verified, that would be a relief for program officials because it would mean no new problems had been discovered with the missile. Previous failures of these high-profile, $85 million test launches have been regarded as significant setbacks by critics of the program.

In Monday's test, the interceptor missile was to target a mock ICBM fired from Kodiak Island, Alaska. The target missile launched at 1:22 a.m. Monday EST (0622GMT) without any problems, but the interceptor did not launch.

The previous test, on December 15, failed under almost identical circumstances. The target missile launched, but the interceptor did not. Military officials later blamed that failure on fault-tolerance software that was oversensitive to small errors in the flow of data between the missile and a flight computer. The software shut down the launch; officials said they would decrease the sensitivity in future launches.

Before the December 15 launch, it had been two years since a test. The program had gone five-for-eight in previous attempts to intercept a target.

No date for the next test has been announced. It is unclear how continued test failures would affect two experimental interceptor bases in Alaska and California.

Those two bases, Fort Greely, Alaska, and Vandenberg Air Force Base, California, are positioned to oppose the threat of attack from North Korea. Both are still classified as experimental but, officials say, they could fire interceptors in an emergency.

The Pentagon has not declared those bases "operational," but officials say they would work anyway once certain mechanical blocks are removed from the interceptors themselves. Six interceptors are at the Alaska site, with two more in California as a backup. Up to 10 more will go into silos in Alaska this year, officials say.

Copyright 2005 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/02/14/missile.defense.ap/

[Big Train]

Yea yea..for now. It will however, it went from NEVER works a few posts ago, to kinda works now...perhaps I can keep posting articles and it will get better.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Big Train
Yea yea..for now. It will however, it went from NEVER works a few posts ago, to kinda works now...perhaps I can keep posting articles and it will get better.

I don't recall saying it never works. As my friend's grandfather used to say, "Even a blind dog finds a bone once in a while." And the SGT. York Self Propelled Anti Aircraft Gun could hit SOME helicopters.

But the tests ARE wrigged! They have one big, well telegraphed, warhead coming in to shoot down.

[Big Train]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
The system is inherently flawed and probably will never work right.

You don't remember this statement from this very thread?

Your logic is a moving target. So what, it worked once, it was fixed? Then as it progresses, so will your objections, " so what, it works perfectly, but", "So what, it saved Canada's ass, it was made during Bush's term" yadda yadda yadda...

[The Scatologist]

Ok, tell me this shit for brains. Let's say the interceptor hit's a warhead heading towards the US, then what? Just sit there and bask in it's the resulting nuclear fall-out trying to get a tan?


Either way, people are gonna die moron.

[Warham]

Well in that case, let's not work on it at all then, right?

[Nickdfresh]

It is an inherently flawed design conceptually speaking. They should abandon the project.

[Big Train]

Originally posted by The Scatologist
Ok, tell me this shit for brains. Let's say the interceptor hit's a warhead heading towards the US, then what? Just sit there and bask in it's the resulting nuclear fall-out trying to get a tan?


Either way, people are gonna die moron.

Shit for brains? Moron? Your debating skills are highly developed I see.

Fuckface, the idea is not to hit the warhead anywhere near the United States. Obviously, fallout remains a concern, but the farther away we can get it, the less damage that fallout can do. If it is the difference between 20-40% death, vs 90--100%, which would you take?

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Warham
Well in that case, let's not work on it at all then, right?

Okay

Lets spend the BILLIONS securing loose nukes now known to be out there instaed.