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4moreyears
03-19-2005, 11:54 PM
Subject: WW III





This is not very long, but very informative.

You have to read the catalogue of events in this brief piece.

Then, ask yourself how anyone can take the position that all we have to do is bring

our troops home from Iraq, sit back, reset the snooze alarm, go back to sleep,

and no one will ever bother us again. In case you missed it, World War III began in November 1979.

..that alarm has been ringing for years.

US Navy Captain Ouimette is the Executive Officer at Naval Air Station,

Pensacola, Florida. Here is a copy of the speech he gave last month. It

is an accurate account of why we are in so much trouble today and why this

action is so necessary.



AMERICA NEEDS TO WAKE UP!



That's what we think we heard on the 11th of September 2001 (When more

than 3,000 Americans were killed -AD) and maybe it was, but I think it should

have been "Get Out of Bed!" In fact, I think the alarm clock has been buzzing

since 1979 and we have continued to hit the snooze button and roll over for a

few more minutes of peaceful sleep since then. It was a cool fall day in

November 1979 in a country going through a religious and political upheaval when

a group of Iranian students attacked and seized the American Embassy in Tehran.

This seizure was an outright attack on American soil; it was an attack that

held the world's most powerful country hostage and paralyzed a Presidency.

The attack on this sovereign U. S. embassy set the stage for events to follow for

the next 25 years.



America was still reeling from the aftermath of the Vietnam experience

and had a serious threat from the Soviet Union when then, President Carter,

had to do something. He chose to conduct a clandestine raid in the desert. The

ill-fated mission ended in ruin, but stood as a symbol of America's

inability to deal with terrorism.



America's military had been decimated and down sized/right sized since

the end of the Vietnam War. A poorly trained, poorly equipped and poorly

organized military was called on to execute a complex mission that was doomed from

the start.



Shortly after the Tehran experience, Americans began to be kidnapped and

killed throughout the Middle East. America could do little to protect

her citizens living and working abroad. The attacks against US soil. In April of

1983 a large vehicle packed with high explosives was driven into the US Embassy

compound in Beirut When it explodes, it kills 63 people. The alarm went

off again and America hit the Snooze Button once more.



Then just six short months later a large truck heavily laden down with

over 2500 pounds of TNT smashed through the main gate of the US Marine Corps

headquarters in Beirut and 241 US servicemen are killed. America mourns

her dead and hit the Snooze Button once more.



Two months later in December 1983, another truck loaded with explosives

is driven into the US Embassy in Kuwait, and America continues her slumber.

The following year, in September 1984, another van was driven into the

gate of the US Embassy in Beirut and America slept.

Soon the terrorism spreads to Europe. In April 1985 a bomb explodes in a

restaurant frequented by US soldiers in Madrid.



Then in August a Volkswagen loaded with explosives is driven into the

main gate of the US Air Force Base at Rhein-Main, 22 are killed and the

snooze alarm is buzzing louder and louder as US interests are continually attacked.



Fifty-nine days later a cruise ship, the Achille Lauro is hijacked and

we watched as an American in a wheelchair is singled out of the passenger

list and executed.



The terrorists then shift their tactics to bombing civilian airliners

when they bomb TWA Flight 840 in April of 1986 that killed 4 and the most

tragic bombing, Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland in 1988, killing

259. Clinton treated these terrorist acts as crimes; in fact we are still trying to

bring these people to trial. These are acts of war.



The wake up alarm is getting louder and louder.

The terrorists decide to bring the fight to America. In January 1993,

two CIA agents are shot and killed as they enter CIA headquarters in Langley,

Virginia.



The following month, February 1993, a group of terrorists are arrested

after a rented van packed with explosives is driven into the underground

parking garage of the World Trade Center in New York City. Six people are killed

and over 1000 are injured. Still this is a crime and not an act of war? The

Snooze alarm is depressed again.



Then in November 1995 a car bomb explodes at a US military complex in

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia killing seven service men and women.



A few months later in June of 1996, another truck bomb explodes only 35

yards from the US military compound in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia. It destroys the

Khobar Towers, a US Air Force barracks, killing 19 and injuring over

500. The terrorists are getting braver and smarter as they see that America does

not respond decisively.



They move to coordinate their attacks in a simultaneous attack on two US

embassies in Kenya and Tanzania.. These attacks were planned with

precision. They kill 224. America responds with cruise missile attacks and goes back to

sleep. The USS Cole was docked in the port of Aden, Yemen for refueling on 12

October 2000, when a small craft pulled along side the ship and exploded

killing 17 US Navy Sailors. Attacking a US War Ship is an act of war, but we sent

the FBI to investigate the crime and went back to sleep.



And of course you know the events of 11 September 2001. Most Americans

think this was the first attack against US soil or in America. How wrong they

are. America has been under a constant attack since 1979 and we chose to hit

the snooze alarm and roll over and go back to sleep.



In the news lately we have seen lots of finger pointing from every high

official in government over what they knew and what they didn't know.

But if you've read the papers and paid a little attention I think you can see

exactly what they knew. You don't have to be in the FBI or CIA or on the National

Security Council to see the pattern that has been developing since 1979.



The President is right on when he says we are engaged in a war.. I think

we have been in a war for the past 25 years and it will continue until we

as a people decide enough is enough. America needs to "Get out of Bed" and

act decisively now. America has been changed forever.. We have to be ready

to pay the price and make the sacrifice to ensure our way of life continues. We

cannot afford to keep hitting the snooze button again and again and roll over

and go back to sleep.



After the attack on Pearl Harbor, Admiral Yamamoto said "... it seems

all we have done is awakened a sleeping giant." This is the message we need to

disseminate to terrorists around the world.



Support Our Troops and support President Bush for having the courage,

political or militarily, to address what so many who preceded him didn't

have the backbone to do both Democrat and Republican. This is not a political

thing to be hashed over in an election year this is an

AMERICAN thing. This is about our Freedom and the Freedom of our

children in years to come.



If you believe in this please forward it to as many people as you can

especially to the young people and all those who dozed off in history

class and who seem so quick to protest such a necessary military action. If you don't

believe it, just delete it and go back to sleep.

FORD
03-20-2005, 12:49 AM
Originally posted by 4moreyears
If you don't believe it, just delete it .

You really shouldn't leave an open invitation like that.:D

Especially when your copying and pasting some anonymous chain e-mail that some fucking idiot spammed the Internet with.

knuckleboner
03-21-2005, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by 4moreyears
Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland in 1988, killing

259. Clinton treated these terrorist acts as crimes; in fact we are still trying to

bring these people to trial. These are acts of war.




umm...i'm struggling to decide why the guy singled out clinton. correct me if i'm wrong, but reagan was president when this happened, right? and bush (41) was president immediately after. what exactly did they do on this issue that is so much better than clinton's response?




The terrorists decide to bring the fight to America. In January 1993,

two CIA agents are shot and killed as they enter CIA headquarters in Langley,

Virginia.



well. that's one way of putting it. another, less spun way would've been to say that a single pakistani man, who had no ties to terrorism was the culprit. might he have been linked with "the terrorists" who decided "to bring the fight to America?" eh, sure, it's possible. but there's been no evidence to that effect.




this whole article is lacking in that it leaves out the U.S.' role in these events. no, i'm not playing ward churchill. one set of actions, however wrong they may be, does NOT justify murder. period.

for example, had the U.S. not supported the corrupt shah of iran, perhaps the revolutionaries might not have viewed the (completely innocent) hostages as a target.

no, all of our actions in the middle east have not been in support of corruptness. many have been with good intentions. yet i'd argue it's definitely our interference (even if it's moral) that's causing the attacks against us.

those we're thwarting from power (or from further power) want us out of the region.

doesn't justify attacks against us. (especially since most of those we're thwarting are corrupt, dicatorial oppressors.) but if we're going to call it a "war" we should at least know the causes of that "war." it's not enough to say, "we've been attacked, we have to attack back."

Nitro Express
03-24-2005, 01:30 AM
So what's this guys sollution? Ok, let's say we are now awake, who's the enemy and how do we get them. Should we target every major population center in the Islamic world and nuke these targets. That sure as hell would kill a lot of muslims. Do we turn the borders of the United States into a high tech Berlin Wall and shoot anyone trying to sneak in and use the ones we catch in gladitorial type games for our enjoyment? Maybe we could just make the illegals who break into our country slaves like the Romans did to their non-citizens.

4moreyears
03-24-2005, 07:09 PM
I guess we can take Bill Clintons aproach and do nothing. That will difuse the situation. The President is doing a great job of trying to end terrorism. Most Islamic people want freedom and peace. unfortunatly you have to be there and stomp out the bad guys. If we dont they will continue to plot another 9/11 attack. I am sure they have not stopped hating us. No matter how liberal you are, you have to agree.

Nickdfresh
03-25-2005, 12:23 AM
Originally posted by 4moreyears
I guess we can take Bill Clintons aproach and do nothing. That will difuse the situation. The President is doing a great job of trying to end terrorism. Most Islamic people want freedom and peace. unfortunatly you have to be there and stomp out the bad guys. If we dont they will continue to plot another 9/11 attack. I am sure they have not stopped hating us. No matter how liberal you are, you have to agree.

When will YOU be enlisting?