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March 15, 2005
Strength of Iraqi Forces Questioned
A government report says the number of soldiers and police in the field has been inflated.
By Mark Mazzetti, LA Times (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-training15mar15,1,3632396.story?ctrack=3&cset=true) Staff Writer
WASHINGTON — U.S. commanders and Bush administration officials are overstating the number of Iraqi security forces on duty, providing an inaccurate picture about the training mission that is the U.S. military's exit strategy for Iraq, a government audit agency said Monday.
The Pentagon in its latest figures said 142,000 Iraqis had been trained as police and soldiers. But the Government Accountability Office said those figures include tens of thousands of Iraqi policemen who had left their jobs without explanation.
The GAO also said the State Department six months ago stopped providing government auditors with information about the number of Iraqi troops who have been issued flak vests, weapons and communications equipment.
The unreliability of the data coming from Baghdad makes it difficult to provide an accurate accounting of the billions of dollars the U.S. is spending to train and equip Iraq's army and police force, a GAO official told a congressional committee Monday.
"Without reliable information, Congress may find it difficult to judge how federal funds are achieving the goal of transferring security responsibilities to the Iraqis," Joseph A. Christoff, the GAO's director of international affairs and trade, told the House Government Reform subcommittee on international relations.
Although the Defense Department has conducted several internal evaluations of the U.S. training mission in Iraq, the GAO is the first government agency to challenge the figures the Pentagon uses to chart the progress of Iraqi troops.
Specifically, the GAO criticized the Pentagon's decision to include in its totals of trained and equipped Iraqi troops the "tens of thousands" of police officers who are absent without leave.
The most recent Pentagon figures show that nearly 82,000 Iraqis have undergone U.S. police training.
"If you are reporting AWOLs in your numbers, I think there's some inaccuracy in your reporting," Christoff said after the hearing.
The progress of the mission has become a politically charged issue, with Democrats in Congress charging that the administration is misrepresenting the number of trained Iraqis in the field.
During confirmation hearings for Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, senators challenged her assertion that the Pentagon had trained more than 120,000 Iraqi policemen and soldiers.
That number, they said, included more than 50,000 police officers who were given as little as three weeks of basic training.
"Time and again this administration has tried to leave the American people with the impression that Iraq has well over 100,000 fully trained, fully competent military police and personnel. And that is simply not true," Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. of Delaware, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, told Rice. "We're months, probably years away from reaching our target goal."
At Monday's hearing, Defense Department officials defended the practice of including in the official totals policemen who had gone AWOL. Unlike Iraqi soldiers, they said, police officers do not sleep in barracks and are not closely tracked by the Interior Ministry.
Moreover, officials said, policemen often leave their units when they are paid and return to their hometowns to ensure that the money gets to their families.
For these reasons, officials said, the total figures for Iraqi policemen are less accurate than the numbers for Iraqi soldiers.
"It's a less precise accounting, and that's the nature of the business we're in," said the Pentagon's Rear Adm. William D. Sullivan.
The total number of trained and equipped policemen "doesn't represent the numbers that are actually in the field," he said.
According to Pentagon figures, more than 142,000 soldiers and policemen have been trained and equipped, with a goal of 271,000 trained by July 2006.
Since Iraq's elections in January, the Pentagon has made the training of Iraqi forces the focus of U.S. military efforts, and defense officials hope that by the end of the year local troops will be leading the fight against insurgents in most parts of the country.
The U.S. has spent $5.8 billion training and equipping Iraqi forces since April 2003, and this week the House of Representatives is expected to vote on a supplemental budget request that includes an additional $5.7 billion devoted to the training.
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March 20, 2005
Insurgent Attacks Continue 2 Years After the U.S. Invasion
Militants kill five police officers. Bush says Iraq is no longer a threat to its people or the world.
By Richard Boudreaux, Times Staff Writer
BAGHDAD — Insurgents killed an Iraqi police officer Saturday and later bombed his funeral procession, killing three other policemen. The violence came as President Bush proclaimed that Iraq "is no longer a threat to the world" and tens of thousands of protesters abroad called for a withdrawal of foreign troops on the second anniversary of the U.S.-led invasion.
The roadside bombing in the northern city of Kirkuk was the latest to follow an increasingly common insurgent tactic of targeting funerals, and Iraqi security forces rather than U.S. troops. Police said the officer being buried had been sprayed by automatic weapons fire while driving to work.
One of those killed at the funeral was identified as a cousin of Jalal Talabani, a Kurdish leader who is expected to become Iraq's next president.
Gunmen also killed a regional police commissioner on his way to his office in Baghdad. And 70 miles to the west, a suicide bomber blew himself up before his car reached its apparent target, a U.S. military patrol on a highway near Ramadi, the U.S. military said. No one other than the bomber was reported killed or injured.
The invasion that began March 19, 2003, toppled former President Saddam Hussein's dictatorship but spawned a violent resistance. Led by elements of Hussein's once-powerful Sunni Arab sect, the insurgency has killed more than 1,500 U.S. troops and about 1,300 soldiers and policemen serving the U.S.-backed Iraqi governments, officials say. Thousands of Iraqi civilians have been killed.
Iraq held no official commemoration Saturday of the U.S. invasion. But many Muslim clerics mentioned the anniversary in their Friday sermons while defending the insurgents.
"People have an internationally recognized right to defend their country," Sheik Ahmed Taha Samarrai told worshipers in a Sunni district of Baghdad, adding that the insurgents should not target civilians who are their "Muslim brothers."
Outside Iraq, some of the millions of people who marched two years ago against the invasion returned to the streets Saturday to protest the continuing bloodshed. News agencies said the numbers were significantly smaller: 45,000 in London, 15,000 in Istanbul, Turkey, 4,000 in Los Angeles and several thousand in New York. But their message was the same.
Protesters left a cardboard coffin outside the U.S. Embassy in London, a black wreath in front of the U.S. Consulate in Adana, Turkey, and outlines of bodies on the sidewalk by the U.S. Embassy in Athens.
President Bush used his weekly radio address to mark the anniversary. "We knew of Saddam Hussein's record of aggression and support for terror," he said. "We knew of his long history of pursuing, even using, weapons of mass destruction, and we know that Sept. 11 requires our country to think differently.
"Now, because we acted, Iraq's government is no longer a threat to the world or its own people," Bush added. He did not mention the failure to uncover chemical, biological or nuclear weapons here. He said the country's recent election of a National Assembly was "inspiring democratic reformers" across the Middle East.
The president repeated the aim of bringing troops home once enough Iraqi security forces have been trained, but he gave no timetable.
Gen. Richard B. Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said Thursday that the insurgents' ability to mount deadly attacks had weakened in the seven weeks since the election. Vice Adm. Lowell E. Jacoby, director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, told the Senate Armed Services Committee the same day that the number of insurgent attacks had diminished in that time from about 60 per day to about 50 per day, but he cautioned that "it is too early to say whether this is the trend."
There has been no major insurgent attack since March 10, when a suicide bomber blew himself up outside a Shiite Muslim mosque in the northern city of Mosul, killing 47 people.
The violence has been aimed less at U.S. forces and more at the Shiites and Kurds who are filling the ranks of Iraq's army and police forces and are expected to lead the government.
The Agence France-Presse news agency reported that seven Iraqis, including the five policemen, were killed in Saturday's violence. No U.S. casualties were reported.
A previously unknown militant group, the National Movement of the Land of Two Rivers, claimed it had kidnapped two Egyptian engineers on a road west of Baghdad and was interrogating them to determine whether their work was "in the interest of the occupying troops or the new government." The authenticity of the claim, made in a video posted online Saturday, could not be confirmed.
More than 200 foreigners have been kidnapped in Iraq since the invasion, and at least 30 have been killed. The latest to be freed was Minas Ibrahim Yousifi, an Iraqi-born Swede who had been abducted Jan. 28, two years after returning from exile in Sweden to form the Christian Democratic Party.
The 60-year-old politician told reporters Saturday that he was released after his captors became convinced of his support for the insurgency and dropped a $3-million ransom demand. He urged Bush to remove U.S. forces from the country.:confused:
So? How are we supposed to pull out of Iraq if there are nothing but militias to take our place? Either, we are there indefinitely with a significant number of troops, or a civil war will begin the minute we draw down.
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Strength of Iraqi Forces Questioned
A government report says the number of soldiers and police in the field has been inflated.
By Mark Mazzetti, LA Times (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-training15mar15,1,3632396.story?ctrack=3&cset=true) Staff Writer
WASHINGTON — U.S. commanders and Bush administration officials are overstating the number of Iraqi security forces on duty, providing an inaccurate picture about the training mission that is the U.S. military's exit strategy for Iraq, a government audit agency said Monday.
The Pentagon in its latest figures said 142,000 Iraqis had been trained as police and soldiers. But the Government Accountability Office said those figures include tens of thousands of Iraqi policemen who had left their jobs without explanation.
The GAO also said the State Department six months ago stopped providing government auditors with information about the number of Iraqi troops who have been issued flak vests, weapons and communications equipment.
The unreliability of the data coming from Baghdad makes it difficult to provide an accurate accounting of the billions of dollars the U.S. is spending to train and equip Iraq's army and police force, a GAO official told a congressional committee Monday.
"Without reliable information, Congress may find it difficult to judge how federal funds are achieving the goal of transferring security responsibilities to the Iraqis," Joseph A. Christoff, the GAO's director of international affairs and trade, told the House Government Reform subcommittee on international relations.
Although the Defense Department has conducted several internal evaluations of the U.S. training mission in Iraq, the GAO is the first government agency to challenge the figures the Pentagon uses to chart the progress of Iraqi troops.
Specifically, the GAO criticized the Pentagon's decision to include in its totals of trained and equipped Iraqi troops the "tens of thousands" of police officers who are absent without leave.
The most recent Pentagon figures show that nearly 82,000 Iraqis have undergone U.S. police training.
"If you are reporting AWOLs in your numbers, I think there's some inaccuracy in your reporting," Christoff said after the hearing.
The progress of the mission has become a politically charged issue, with Democrats in Congress charging that the administration is misrepresenting the number of trained Iraqis in the field.
During confirmation hearings for Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, senators challenged her assertion that the Pentagon had trained more than 120,000 Iraqi policemen and soldiers.
That number, they said, included more than 50,000 police officers who were given as little as three weeks of basic training.
"Time and again this administration has tried to leave the American people with the impression that Iraq has well over 100,000 fully trained, fully competent military police and personnel. And that is simply not true," Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. of Delaware, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, told Rice. "We're months, probably years away from reaching our target goal."
At Monday's hearing, Defense Department officials defended the practice of including in the official totals policemen who had gone AWOL. Unlike Iraqi soldiers, they said, police officers do not sleep in barracks and are not closely tracked by the Interior Ministry.
Moreover, officials said, policemen often leave their units when they are paid and return to their hometowns to ensure that the money gets to their families.
For these reasons, officials said, the total figures for Iraqi policemen are less accurate than the numbers for Iraqi soldiers.
"It's a less precise accounting, and that's the nature of the business we're in," said the Pentagon's Rear Adm. William D. Sullivan.
The total number of trained and equipped policemen "doesn't represent the numbers that are actually in the field," he said.
According to Pentagon figures, more than 142,000 soldiers and policemen have been trained and equipped, with a goal of 271,000 trained by July 2006.
Since Iraq's elections in January, the Pentagon has made the training of Iraqi forces the focus of U.S. military efforts, and defense officials hope that by the end of the year local troops will be leading the fight against insurgents in most parts of the country.
The U.S. has spent $5.8 billion training and equipping Iraqi forces since April 2003, and this week the House of Representatives is expected to vote on a supplemental budget request that includes an additional $5.7 billion devoted to the training.
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www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-iraq20mar20,1,112983.story
March 20, 2005
Insurgent Attacks Continue 2 Years After the U.S. Invasion
Militants kill five police officers. Bush says Iraq is no longer a threat to its people or the world.
By Richard Boudreaux, Times Staff Writer
BAGHDAD — Insurgents killed an Iraqi police officer Saturday and later bombed his funeral procession, killing three other policemen. The violence came as President Bush proclaimed that Iraq "is no longer a threat to the world" and tens of thousands of protesters abroad called for a withdrawal of foreign troops on the second anniversary of the U.S.-led invasion.
The roadside bombing in the northern city of Kirkuk was the latest to follow an increasingly common insurgent tactic of targeting funerals, and Iraqi security forces rather than U.S. troops. Police said the officer being buried had been sprayed by automatic weapons fire while driving to work.
One of those killed at the funeral was identified as a cousin of Jalal Talabani, a Kurdish leader who is expected to become Iraq's next president.
Gunmen also killed a regional police commissioner on his way to his office in Baghdad. And 70 miles to the west, a suicide bomber blew himself up before his car reached its apparent target, a U.S. military patrol on a highway near Ramadi, the U.S. military said. No one other than the bomber was reported killed or injured.
The invasion that began March 19, 2003, toppled former President Saddam Hussein's dictatorship but spawned a violent resistance. Led by elements of Hussein's once-powerful Sunni Arab sect, the insurgency has killed more than 1,500 U.S. troops and about 1,300 soldiers and policemen serving the U.S.-backed Iraqi governments, officials say. Thousands of Iraqi civilians have been killed.
Iraq held no official commemoration Saturday of the U.S. invasion. But many Muslim clerics mentioned the anniversary in their Friday sermons while defending the insurgents.
"People have an internationally recognized right to defend their country," Sheik Ahmed Taha Samarrai told worshipers in a Sunni district of Baghdad, adding that the insurgents should not target civilians who are their "Muslim brothers."
Outside Iraq, some of the millions of people who marched two years ago against the invasion returned to the streets Saturday to protest the continuing bloodshed. News agencies said the numbers were significantly smaller: 45,000 in London, 15,000 in Istanbul, Turkey, 4,000 in Los Angeles and several thousand in New York. But their message was the same.
Protesters left a cardboard coffin outside the U.S. Embassy in London, a black wreath in front of the U.S. Consulate in Adana, Turkey, and outlines of bodies on the sidewalk by the U.S. Embassy in Athens.
President Bush used his weekly radio address to mark the anniversary. "We knew of Saddam Hussein's record of aggression and support for terror," he said. "We knew of his long history of pursuing, even using, weapons of mass destruction, and we know that Sept. 11 requires our country to think differently.
"Now, because we acted, Iraq's government is no longer a threat to the world or its own people," Bush added. He did not mention the failure to uncover chemical, biological or nuclear weapons here. He said the country's recent election of a National Assembly was "inspiring democratic reformers" across the Middle East.
The president repeated the aim of bringing troops home once enough Iraqi security forces have been trained, but he gave no timetable.
Gen. Richard B. Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said Thursday that the insurgents' ability to mount deadly attacks had weakened in the seven weeks since the election. Vice Adm. Lowell E. Jacoby, director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, told the Senate Armed Services Committee the same day that the number of insurgent attacks had diminished in that time from about 60 per day to about 50 per day, but he cautioned that "it is too early to say whether this is the trend."
There has been no major insurgent attack since March 10, when a suicide bomber blew himself up outside a Shiite Muslim mosque in the northern city of Mosul, killing 47 people.
The violence has been aimed less at U.S. forces and more at the Shiites and Kurds who are filling the ranks of Iraq's army and police forces and are expected to lead the government.
The Agence France-Presse news agency reported that seven Iraqis, including the five policemen, were killed in Saturday's violence. No U.S. casualties were reported.
A previously unknown militant group, the National Movement of the Land of Two Rivers, claimed it had kidnapped two Egyptian engineers on a road west of Baghdad and was interrogating them to determine whether their work was "in the interest of the occupying troops or the new government." The authenticity of the claim, made in a video posted online Saturday, could not be confirmed.
More than 200 foreigners have been kidnapped in Iraq since the invasion, and at least 30 have been killed. The latest to be freed was Minas Ibrahim Yousifi, an Iraqi-born Swede who had been abducted Jan. 28, two years after returning from exile in Sweden to form the Christian Democratic Party.
The 60-year-old politician told reporters Saturday that he was released after his captors became convinced of his support for the insurgency and dropped a $3-million ransom demand. He urged Bush to remove U.S. forces from the country.:confused:
So? How are we supposed to pull out of Iraq if there are nothing but militias to take our place? Either, we are there indefinitely with a significant number of troops, or a civil war will begin the minute we draw down.
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