Pope has died...

[Roy Munson]

It's being reported on various news outlets, but there is no word from the Vatican.

[Roy Munson]

Drudge Report (www.drudgereport.com)

[FORD]

Nobody else is claiming he died yet. Drudge really shouldn't be trying to be "the first" with this sort of thing.

Though it's pretty obvious we're talking hours, or even minutes until the announcement comes.

[BigBadBrian]

Condolences to all the Catholics on this board.... :(

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by FORD
Nobody else is claiming he died yet. Drudge really shouldn't be trying to be "the first" with this sort of thing.

Though it's pretty obvious we're talking hours, or even minutes until the announcement comes.

Drudge is often to break stories...as in the Lewinsky/Clinton affair. ;) :D

[BigBadBrian]

CNN is claiming "Italian news" says that the Pontiff has passed away...

[Roy Munson]

I'm a Cathi
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
Condolences to all the Catholics on this board.... :(


Thanks for that. It's not like I knew him, but it is sad because he is the leader of our church.

[Matt White]

RIP

[Roy Munson]

I like Drudge, but, honestly, I like the MSNBC website for confirmation of breaking stories. Actually, they had the Shaivo death before Drudge did yesterday.

[Roy Munson]

Still nothing from MSNBC.

FORD is right, though...it's only a matter of time.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Roy Munson
I like Drudge, but, honestly, I like the MSNBC website for confirmation of breaking stories. Actually, they had the Shaivo death before Drudge did yesterday.


Yeah, it's a big race for all of those fuckers. Don Henley's "Dirty Laundry" comes to mind immediately.

[steve]

Does this mean I can wear a condom now?

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by steve
Does this mean I can wear a condom now?

Only if your boyfriend approves. :gulp:

[Roy Munson]

Nothing form AP or Newsday either.

[Roy Munson]

Originally posted by steve
Does this mean I can wear a condom now?


What? Did the Pope declare a ban on extra-small size Trojans?

:rolleyes:

[FORD]

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Italian media gave contradictory reports about Pope John Paul's vital signs on Friday, first saying his heart and brain activity had stopped and then reporting this was not true.

There was no official comment from the Vatican.

The first reports, picked up by the state broadcaster RAI, said his electrocardiogram had gone flat. The ADNkronos news agency said monitoring showed his brain activity had halted.

But Sky Italia television later quoted Vatican sources saying both his brain and heart were still functioning.

[Roy Munson]

Now Drudge says that he's still alive!

What an asshole.

[steve]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
Only if your boyfriend approves. :gulp:

Good comeback.

So whadaya say, BBB?

[Roy Munson]

Originally posted by FORD
VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Italian media gave contradictory reports about Pope John Paul's vital signs on Friday, first saying his heart and brain activity had stopped and then reporting this was not true.

There was no official comment from the Vatican.

The first reports, picked up by the state broadcaster RAI, said his electrocardiogram had gone flat. The ADNkronos news agency said monitoring showed his brain activity had halted.

But Sky Italia television later quoted Vatican sources saying both his brain and heart were still functioning.

Speculation...confusion...

:confused:

[steve]

Originally posted by Roy Munson
What? Did the Pope declare a ban on extra-small size Trojans?

:rolleyes:

It's all good to joke about...till an altar boy gets pregnant.

[FORD]

This is a perfect example of what's wrong with the corporate media. Too much emphasis on sensationalism and trying to beat the other guy to the story and nobody bothers to check the fucking facts first.

Never mind that there's a few million Catholics out there waiting for the inevitable bad news. And given the influence of Catholicsim in many countries, the passing of a Pope has worldwide impliciations.

You don't jump the gun with shit like this. Didn't some of these whores run Reagan's obituary a few weeks before he actually died?

[FORD]

Vatican Denies Media Reports Pope Has Died
Fri Apr 1, 2005 02:10 PM ET

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - The Vatican denied on Friday reports in some Italian media that Pope John Paul had died.

"It is not true that the Pope is dead and there is no truth that his electro-encephalogram is flat because there is no such machine in the papal apartments," a Vatican official said.

[Jesterstar]

Just let him fucking Die if he isn't already. The dude is tired and probably exausted from harboring Child molesters his whole life.

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by Jesterstar
Just let him fucking Die if he isn't already. The dude is tired and probably exausted from harboring Child molesters his whole life.
I mourn with Jesterstar. :(


:spank:

[kentuckyklira]

Fuck the old fart!

[FORD]

Not the time for this sort of thing, guys....

[vanzilla]

I'm not a religious man. I don't agree with some of the Pope's policies or the way he handled the child molestation cases, but I think he's helped a lot of people in this world. I probably disagree with a lot of what he stands for, but I have respect for the man. It's a sad day for all that follow him.

RIP John Paul.

[Roy Munson]

Originally posted by FORD
Not the time for this sort of thing, guys....


Thanks, FORD.

:(

[Roy Munson]

Originally posted by Jesterstar
Just let him fucking Die if he isn't already. The dude is tired and probably exausted from harboring Child molesters his whole life.


Shouldn't you be thanking him then?

:rolleyes:

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by Jesterstar
Just let him fucking Die if he isn't already.

No one's holding him back from death and he's not on any machines. It's just playing the waiting game right now.

Not a good time to be around the Polish Brooklyn/Queens border by me. :(

[FORD]

Live POPEWATCH video feed from CBS News (http://video.cgi.cbsnews.com/video/video.pl?url=/broadcast/*/livenews1.wmv&sid=500251&dart=news.video)

Reportedly, they will hang some sort of black curtain from the window when the Pope has died.

[BigBadBrian]

He probably already has died.....the Vatican is probably just scrambling for time for PR purposes. An official statement is expected shortly.

[bueno bob]

I was wondering about that, whether or not he's already passed on and they're getting everything ready for the storm....it's possible....

[Warham]

I wonder if they removed his feeding tube already...

[FORD]

Talk about obsession.... :rolleyes:

[Jesterstar]

Actually they probably don't want to declair him dead untill the markets close. The Markets dropped a ton when word spread that he was dead.

[bueno bob]

Did it?

Then it wouldn't surprise me at all.

[Warham]

It's only just begun...

[Cathedral]

This is sad news indeed, my condolences to his family, the church, and his followers.

May the Lord bless and keep him as he makes his journey home.

[bueno bob]

According to BBC, China just wished him a speedy recovery, but nobody knows whether or not Catholics in China are being allowed to actually pray for him or not...very interesting, considering China hasn't had any contact with the Vatican since, what, the 50s?

[Roy Munson]

Originally posted by Jesterstar
Actually they probably don't want to declair him dead untill the markets close. The Markets dropped a ton when word spread that he was dead.

Yeah.

Same thing happened when word got out that you would be cutting back on buying gay porn and ladies lingerie.

[FORD]

Roy, don't encourage him, or this thread will turn to shit faster than a Van Hagar album. And I don't think that's what you want.

[Golden AWe]

Perhaps now all the fancy churches can be torn down and all the gold will be sold and the money divided to those in need.

[Roy Munson]

Originally posted by FORD
Roy, don't encourage him, or this thread will turn to shit faster than a Van Hagar album. And I don't think that's what you want.


You're right. I should resist those urges especially when it comes to a subject such as this.

Funny, this thread is irrelevant anyhow from the title...so far...

[Golden AWe]

Lay it all on me...

http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18685

[Jesterstar]

Originally posted by FORD
Roy, don't encourage him, or this thread will turn to shit faster than a Van Hagar album. And I don't think that's what you want.

I didn't start shit I commented on the Topic. I isn't me. Do you Mod thing and pay attention.

[Jesterstar]

Originally posted by bueno bob
Did it?

Then it wouldn't surprise me at all.

I Heard but I can't confirm that it dropped like 30 points when they realeased news of his death. After the Bells close I am sure that we will get the official word.

[Ally_Kat]

which market? See, the world has these things called time zones, so at any given time there's a market open.

NYSE? Bell ran over half an hour ago.
Markets in Europe? It's evening.

Which markets? Out in LA?

[Warham]

It's just a load of crap, Ally.

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by Warham
It's just a load of crap, Ally.

I know. I just wanted to point that out.

[Roy Munson]

Originally posted by Golden AWe
Lay it all on me...

http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18685


Real nice. Thanks for puttnig that crap in here. Take your hatred for the Pope and Catholicism and find an exit.

[Golden AWe]

Originally posted by Roy Munson
Real nice. Thanks for puttnig that crap in here. Take your hatred for the Pope and Catholicism and find an exit.

I don't hate the religion or the poor old man who has even apologised all the evil that the church has caused during the history. I hate all the hypocrisy and "religious" people surrounding it, taking advantage of it and using it as an excuse to stop thinking rationally.

How many times you have prayed this week? How much did you think about doing something good to others, how much did you think about your faith before you heard about the pope?

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by Golden AWe
I don't hate the religion or the poor old man who has even apologised all the evil that the church has caused during the history. I hate all the hypocrisy and "religious" people surrounding it, taking advantage of it and using it as an excuse to stop thinking rationally.

How many times you have prayed this week? How much did you think about doing something good to others, how much did you think about your faith before you heard about the pope?

Post more Nun porn, especially of that tattooed girl...she just makes my heart go pitter-pat, indeed.

[Golden AWe]

I don't pray. I don't really have any kind of religion or faith besides the classic rock and doing things with a smile and style, I cuntcentrate on doing good to the people surrounding me and getting it done myself.

[Golden AWe]

Originally posted by bueno bob
Post more Nun porn, especially of that tattooed girl...she just makes my heart go pitter-pat, indeed.

trust me, i will.

[bueno bob]

Sweet :D

[bueno bob]

Definitely worth the five star, GA!

[Roy Munson]

Originally posted by Golden AWe
I don't hate the religion or the poor old man who has even apologised all the evil that the church has caused during the history. I hate all the hypocrisy and "religious" people surrounding it, taking advantage of it and using it as an excuse to stop thinking rationally.

How many times you have prayed this week? How much did you think about doing something good to others, how much did you think about your faith before you heard about the pope?


Are you being sarcastic? You don't know me. You don't know how much I pray, or practice my faith. What is this, 21 questions?

I started this thread in regards to the Holy Father from my church passing on. You came in here with your insults and proceeded to taint it with porn. Just take your crap somewhere more appropriate.

Like you said, do something good.

[Golden AWe]

Originally posted by Roy Munson
Are you being sarcastic? You don't know me. You don't know how much I pray, or practice my faith. What is this, 21 questions?

I started this thread in regards to the Holy Father from my church passing on. You came in here with your insults and proceeded to taint it with porn. Just take your crap somewhere more appropriate.

Like you said, do something good.

Well, how many times have you praised or thanked the pope in public/said it to your relatives/family/friends before he got really sick and is about to die, died?

I think I know you better than you try to claim.

Do something good and ease down on the hypocrisy.

[Warham]

I think it's uncalled for to attack Munson like that.

How the hell would you know how much he's talked about the Pope to his family? Catholics actually talk about the Pope quite a bit.

Hypocrisy indeed...

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by Jesterstar
Actually they probably don't want to declair him dead untill the markets close. The Markets dropped a ton when word spread that he was dead.
I don't know why Joe says you're a dumb fuck, Jesterstar. You're more on da money$ than da evening news is, you little booger.


:spank:

[Roy Munson]

Originally posted by Golden AWe
Well, how many times have you praised or thanked the pope in public/said it to your relatives/family/friends before he got really sick and is about to die, died?

I think I know you better than you try to claim.

Do something good and ease down on the hypocrisy.


You can't be serious?!?! Are you NUTS?!? You don't know me AT ALL. If you think you do you are losing your grip on reality and maybe you should think about stepping away from the computer for a few days to gain some perspective as to what the internet is all about. It's the INTERNET! None of us know eachother as well as we'd like to think we do.

So, you want me to jot down everything I've said in praise of the Pope and the Catholic Church's teachings? Do you have a few days? I was born and raised a Catholic and I have never strayed from the church. Whom I pray for is personal and I need not share it with anyone else. However, I can tell you that you are wrong about me. Totally wrong.

You're really making yourself look silly here. Also, a bit dillusional.

[twonabomber]

Originally posted by Warham
Catholics actually talk about the Pope quite a bit.



yeah, and it usually goes like this:

"are you serious?"

"is the pope Catholic?"

:D

[steve]

It's great that the pope got to live to a ripe old age.
You can't say the same for AIDS victims in Africa who listened to the church's advice on condoms and contreception.

The leaders of the Catholic Church are full of themselves. They enjoy patting themselves on the back but because it is an undemocratic institution, CRONYISM denies accountablity or internal criticism.

While people like Mother Theresa do deserve respect for attempting to help out the poor, and the Pope deserves respect in terms of speaking out against communism, much of the good they do in terms of missionary work is cancelled out in horrific corruption (blaming "homosexuality" (the Pope) for the problem of children being raped) or telling unknowledgeable third-worlders that contreception is immoral. Certainly the church did not start the AIDS epidemic in Africa, but in the face of it (and considering their leverage), telling poor folks that contreception is AGAINST GOD is unconscionable.

The Pope isn't so bad - he's working against over a thousand years of church corruption....but I just don't think he's "so damn good" either. Hopefully, the next Pope will wake up to the realities of the world so that the good actions of the church are not cancelled out by the bad.

All this, as a former Catholic, is just my opinion of course.

[ODShowtime]

only at Frontline can you get news like this reported by... Roy Munson

[Golden AWe]

Originally posted by Roy Munson
You can't be serious?!?! Are you NUTS?!? You don't know me AT ALL. If you think you do you are losing your grip on reality and maybe you should think about stepping away from the computer for a few days to gain some perspective as to what the internet is all about. It's the INTERNET! None of us know eachother as well as we'd like to think we do.

So, you want me to jot down everything I've said in praise of the Pope and the Catholic Church's teachings? Do you have a few days? I was born and raised a Catholic and I have never strayed from the church. Whom I pray for is personal and I need not share it with anyone else. However, I can tell you that you are wrong about me. Totally wrong.

You're really making yourself look silly here. Also, a bit dillusional.

Don't you go telling me about the INTERNET. You started a thread about the pope dying, and therefore you should be able to deal with the fact that some folks here have opinions against the pope, against the catholic religion and also some of us don't really give a non-flying fuck.

If being a catholic does it for you, good for you. It sure hasn't made you seem less sour or open-minded, you seem uptight and unwilling to discuss your religion, and I don't mean your very personal habits.

You still sound like all the people who raised a big noise about the Tsunami, and when the last white body was out of there they forgot about it. You start a thread about the pope but only "R.I.P." posts are allowed?

[Golden AWe]

Originally posted by steve
It's great that the pope got to live to a ripe old age.
You can't say the same for AIDS victims in Africa who listened to the church's advice on condoms and contreception.

The leaders of the Catholic Church are full of themselves. They enjoy patting themselves on the back but because it is an undemocratic institution, CRONYISM denies accountablity or internal criticism.

While people like Mother Theresa do deserve respect for attempting to help out the poor, and the Pope deserves respect in terms of speaking out against communism, much of the good they do in terms of missionary work is cancelled out in horrific corruption (blaming "homosexuality" (the Pope) for the problem of children being raped) or telling unknowledgeable third-worlders that contreception is immoral. Certainly the church did not start the AIDS epidemic in Africa, but in the face of it (and considering their leverage), telling poor folks that contreception is AGAINST GOD is unconscionable.

The Pope isn't so bad - he's working against over a thousand years of church corruption....but I just don't think he's "so damn good" either. Hopefully, the next Pope will wake up to the realities of the world so that the good actions of the church are not cancelled out by the bad.

All this, as a former Catholic, is just my opinion of course.

Grate post, Steve.

[rustoffa]

Just a casual observation here.

The next pope will probably have to work a bit more.

I wonder where the papal scepter will land?

If I was the next pope, I'd move my shit to Milano or something.

That vatican city window you always see just screams tenement.

[Nickdfresh]

Being a dysfunctional, disillusioned Catholic in a heavily Catholic area, I have a large degree of ambivalence towards the Church in general and the Catholic hierarchy in particular. I rarely attend church and all that, and tend to be very conflicted on my beliefs.

Ambiguity is a word that best describes the Catholic Church. They've protected pedophiles, not only in the US by the way, and have hoarded for centuries great wealth; yet the Church has done incredible charitable works for the poor and needy around the world. But the Church also set up a system that is disconnected from the original conceptualization of Christianity, which had loose affiliations of worship and a communial sense. They adopted a model, well lets do a quiz on your Catholic knowledge, The Catholic Church adopted a hierarchical structure based on what system? First correct answer gets a special Jesus blessed Merlot and free passes to SISTER ACT:;).

But seriously, whatever you think of POPE JOHN PAUL, he did contribute greatly to the ending of COMMUNISM through his work with the POLISH SOLIDARITY movement and such. Here's another piece of PAPISH trivia for you, What did the POPE do during WWII?

[Golden AWe]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh

But seriously, whatever you think of POPE JOHN PAUL, he did contribute greatly to the ending of COMMUNISM through his work with the POLISH SOLIDARITY movement and such. Here's another piece of PAPISH trivia for you, What did the POPE do during WWII?

Yesss...I agree. Wasn't he teaching or something in Poland back then?

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Golden AWe
Yesss...I agree. Wasn't he teaching or something in Poland back then?

He was a soldier in the Polish Army that fought the Nazis in 1939. When Poland was conquered, he entered the seminary to avoid a POW camp. He then became a resistance fighter (I think).

You can argue with some of the policies he's enacted, but you can't argue with his heart.

He's fought both fascism and communism.

[kentuckyklira]

Originally posted by bueno bob
Post more Nun porn, especially of that tattooed girl...she just makes my heart go pitter-pat, indeed. Hell yeah!

[BigBadBrian]

This time it's for real. Let's have competing threads.

:gulp:

[Cathedral]

Originally posted by Golden AWe
How many times you have prayed this week? How much did you think about doing something good to others, how much did you think about your faith before you heard about the pope?

A few times everyday, I always do things for others, as i said to begin with, everyday for awhile now.

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
He was a soldier in the Polish Army that fought the Nazis in 1939. When Poland was conquered, he entered the seminary to avoid a POW camp. He then became a resistance fighter (I think).

You can argue with some of the policies he's enacted, but you can't argue with his heart.

He's fought both fascism and communism.

Where'd you hear that? Didn't he work in a quarry for 4 years after his university was closed down and then studied at a seminary in secret?

[Seshmeister]

Originally posted by steve
While people like Mother Theresa do deserve respect for attempting to help out the poor...

Sorry to clutter up this thread but Pope JP with all his faults was a much nicer guy than Mother Theresa. Despite the accepted wisdom she was a nasty hypocritical bitch who courted evil dicators for money to get herself private healthcare while telling the people in her 'hospital' that suffering was good for them.

Interesting times ahead as the catholic church starts to implode as the liberals or conservatives refuse to accept the new guy.


Cheers!

:gulp:

[Seshmeister]

Originally posted by Ally_Kat
Where'd you hear that? Didn't he work in a quarry for 4 years after his university was closed down and then studied at a seminary in secret?

Yeah that seems to be true.

I've seen claims that he was born Jewish and others that he worked in a Nazi factory during the war which made the cyanide for the gas chambers.

Neither stood up to scrutiny.(Otherwise you know me I would have posted them...:) )

[kentuckyklira]

Originally posted by Seshmeister
Sorry to clutter up this thread but Pope JP with all his faults was a much nicer guy than Mother Theresa. Despite the accepted wisdom she was a nasty hypocritical bitch who courted evil dicators for money to get herself private healthcare while telling the people in her 'hospital' that suffering was good for them.

Interesting times ahead as the catholic church starts to implode as the liberals or conservatives refuse to accept the new guy.


Cheers!

:gulp: Great and true post!

THE FUCKING TRUth hurts, DOESN`T IT!

[Roy Munson]

Originally posted by Golden AWe
Don't you go telling me about the INTERNET. You started a thread about the pope dying, and therefore you should be able to deal with the fact that some folks here have opinions against the pope, against the catholic religion and also some of us don't really give a non-flying fuck.

If being a catholic does it for you, good for you. It sure hasn't made you seem less sour or open-minded, you seem uptight and unwilling to discuss your religion, and I don't mean your very personal habits.

You still sound like all the people who raised a big noise about the Tsunami, and when the last white body was out of there they forgot about it. You start a thread about the pope but only "R.I.P." posts are allowed?



Internet? You're the goof with 11,000+ posts! Do you have a life? How many posts do you have on other websites? Maybe you should take a break from the computer and step outside and do something good for your community?

Also, you are an asshole for accusing me of being a racist. Like I said, you have no idea who I am or what I've done or what I stand for.

You've really shown your true colors here. Everyone can see that.