A Day In The Life Of Joe Republican

[FORD]

"A DAY IN THE LIFE OF JOE REPUBLICAN"

Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffeepot with water to prepare his morning coffee. The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water-quality standards. With his first swallow of water, he takes his daily medication. His medications are safe to take because some stupid commie liberal fought to ensure their safety and that they work as advertised.

All but $10 of his medications are paid for by his employer's medical Plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid Medical insurance - now Joe gets it too.

He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs. Joe's bacon is safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.

In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his shampoo. His bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient and its amount in the total contents because some crybaby liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained.
Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for the laws to stop industries from polluting our air.

He walks on the government-provided sidewalk to subway station for his government-subsidized ride to work. It saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.

Joe begins his work day. He has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some lazy liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe's employer pays these standards because Joe's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union.

If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, he'll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some stupid liberal didn't think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.

It is noontime and Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe's deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some godless liberal wanted to protect Joe's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the Great Depression.
Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae-underwritten mortgage and his below-market federal student loan because some elitist liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money overhis lifetime.

Joe also forgets that his in addition to his federally subsidized student loans, he attended a state funded university. Joe is home from work. He plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive. His car is among the safest in the world because some America-hating liberal fought for car safetystandards to go along with the tax-payer funded roads.

He arrives at his boyhood home. His was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers' Home administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans.

The house didn't have electricity until some big-government liberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification.

He is happy to see his father, who is now retired. His father lives on Social Security and a union pension because some wine-drinking, cheese-eating liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to.

Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The radio host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. He doesn't mention that the beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day. Joe agrees: "We don't need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I'm a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have." :rolleyes:

[aesop]

Those dastardly Republicans. Thank you for reminding us that Capitolism would've wiped out both the USA and humanity as we know it were it not for the loving, concerned, give-till-it-hurts liberals. Remember, Neichke (sp) said "Pure Capitolism is pure Evil"...

[Warham]

The Civil Rights Act would have never been passed if it wasn't for Republicans.

House of Representatives: Republicans favored the bill 138 to 34; Democrats supported it 152-96.


Blacks would probably still be slaves if the Democrats had been in charge nonstop since 1789.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Warham
The Civil Rights Act would have never been passed if it wasn't for Republicans.

House of Representatives: Republicans favored the bill 138 to 34; Democrats supported it 152-96.


Blacks would probably still be slaves if the Democrats had been in charge nonstop since 1789.

Ahhh...The good ol' days of Moderate, Rockefeller Republicans.

[Warham]

I don't think the Republicans are much different.

I do think the Democrats have become liberals and have gone far left. It makes the Republicans look like rabid conservatives from their perspective.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Warham
I don't think the Republicans are much different.

I do think the Democrats have become liberals and have gone far left. It makes the Republicans look like rabid conservatives from their perspective.

I don't agree, the rabid ideological divide has moved right. When did Democrats begin to move left? During the New Deal? The one the current Administration is so bent of destroying.

[Warham]

I wouldn't mind seeing the loony left wing destroyed.

Yeah, I'd say the New Deal started the trend. That's why Democrats are so hell-bent on not changing social security, even if it does crash in forty years. It's an artifact from their glory days. It's their legacy.

I don't see how the divide moved right. The ideals of the standard Republican are pro-life, anti-abortion, smaller government, pro big-business. If that's far right, then I guess that's what I am.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Warham
I wouldn't mind seeing the loony left wing destroyed.

Yeah, I'd say the New Deal started the trend. That's why Democrats are so hell-bent on not changing social security, even if it does crash in forty years. It's an artifact from their glory days. It's their legacy.

I don't see how the divide moved right. The ideals of the standard Republican are pro-life, anti-abortion, smaller government, pro big-business. If that's far right, then I guess that's what I am.

You have that in reverse, the party has been hijacked by well-meaning, but wrong-headed religious zealots (in the late 1970's).

Many Republicans consider abortion to be a matter of personal choice of the woman and would shudder at the corporate whorishness of both parties, but mainly of their own.

Many Republicans would have once been booed if they dared to question the ultimate good the New Deal has done.

After all, Liberal capitalism is what defeated Communism. I truly believe that the United States would have adopted state Socialism or even a Communist rebellion would have beset Amerika as the Depression worsened!

[Warham]

The New Deal is the best thing Democrats have ever done in this country, bar none. It's just not working now, because 40 million workers have been aborted (abortion being one of the liberals' political cornerstones) in the last 32 years, making the social security system obsolete. Instead of 16 workers paying for every retiree, it's gone downhill fast.

[FORD]

If you thought about living people half as much as you did about fetuses and reanimated corpses, you might actually be able to talk some sense into your own party. Pro Life my ass.

[Dr. Love]

And then Joe Republican takes a look at his paycheck, and sees how much money is being taken away in taxes, and he begins to cry. :(

[Warham]

Originally posted by FORD
If you thought about living people half as much as you did about fetuses and reanimated corpses, you might actually be able to talk some sense into your own party. Pro Life my ass.

What's not pro-life about the party, FORD?

Schiavo wasn't a corpse by medical definition, seeing as how you liberals say a fetus isn't a human being by definition.

[FORD]

Originally posted by Warham
What's not pro-life about the party, FORD? http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/rdonlyres/5441E8B8-4274-4D3A-AC23-9753D4DA2D21/49078/1.jpg

Multiply that x 100,000 for starters.

Then add to it the REALITY that it didn't do one goddamn fucking thing to make THIS country more secure, nor any other country on the planet. Including, and most especially Iraq itself.

[Warham]

How do you know she wasn't killed by terrorists over there?

We'll just agree to disagree on the war.

You'd rather go to Kofi Annon and the United Nations while Saddam bribes them off with Oil for Food funds, all the while allowing terrorists to go unfettered through his country. I prefer a more direct, proactive approach to this issue.

[FORD]

Terrorists are all over the country NOW, aren't they? And they have nothing to do with Al Qaeda either, but rather they're Iraqis who either 1) really hate occupation 2) really hate other Iraqis or more likely 3) both.

There is no victory for the BCE in Iraq. All it would have taken was a good look at Yugoslavia to see what was coming there. Saddam was to Iraq what the Iron Curtain was to Yugoslavia. Say what you want about his methods, but he kept the (artificially created) country stable. Which is why the BCE/CIA installed him in the first place, and backed him for so many years.

Eventually the Kurds will want their own state, the Shias will want to join with Iran, and the Sunnis won't appreciate being boxed in, and it will disintegrate into a bloody civil war. How the fuck does that make anybody "safer"?

[Warham]

Our country had a civil war, and we are better off for it. We lost 620,000 men in our civil war, and 7,000 in seven minutes in one battle. Iraq might very well have a civil war, perhaps even that bloody. It doesn't mean it's a failure over there if they do.

Saddam being gone is good, even if it does degrade to that point. At least people won't be gassed, tortured, and raped by their own dictator.

[FORD]

Originally posted by Warham
Our country had a civil war, and we are better off for it. We lost 620,000 men in our civil war, and 7,000 in seven minutes in one battle.

I wonder if any of those 620,000 would say it was worth it? Especially given the main cause of the war, a ridiculous claim on the "right" to own human beings as "property".


Iraq might very well have a civil war, perhaps even that bloody. It doesn't mean it's a failure over there if they do.

But but but.... I thought it was a democracy now? Junior said so!

Saddam being gone is good, even if it does degrade to that point. At least people won't be gassed, tortured, and raped by their own dictator.

Well, I don't know whether or not anybody's been gassed yet, that may be true. But I'm sure getting raped and tortured by the employees of a foreign dictator isn't doing much to raise their spirits either.

[Dr. Love]

Joe Republican continued crying over his taxes... :mad:

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by FORD
"A DAY IN THE LIFE OF JOE REPUBLICAN"

Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffeepot with water to prepare his morning coffee. The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water-quality standards. With his first swallow of water, he takes his daily medication. His medications are safe to take because some stupid commie liberal fought to ensure their safety and that they work as advertised.

All but $10 of his medications are paid for by his employer's medical Plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid Medical insurance - now Joe gets it too.

He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs. Joe's bacon is safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.

In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his shampoo. His bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient and its amount in the total contents because some crybaby liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained.
Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for the laws to stop industries from polluting our air.

He walks on the government-provided sidewalk to subway station for his government-subsidized ride to work. It saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.

Joe begins his work day. He has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some lazy liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe's employer pays these standards because Joe's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union.

If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, he'll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some stupid liberal didn't think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.

It is noontime and Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe's deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some godless liberal wanted to protect Joe's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the Great Depression.
Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae-underwritten mortgage and his below-market federal student loan because some elitist liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money overhis lifetime.

Joe also forgets that his in addition to his federally subsidized student loans, he attended a state funded university. Joe is home from work. He plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive. His car is among the safest in the world because some America-hating liberal fought for car safetystandards to go along with the tax-payer funded roads.

He arrives at his boyhood home. His was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers' Home administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans.

The house didn't have electricity until some big-government liberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification.

He is happy to see his father, who is now retired. His father lives on Social Security and a union pension because some wine-drinking, cheese-eating liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to.

Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The radio host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. He doesn't mention that the beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day. Joe agrees: "We don't need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I'm a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have." :rolleyes:


Where is the part about how Joe "The Fundamentalist" Republican reads his Bible and prays every morning? Hmm?

[Warham]

We'll have to ask Howard Dean how to pray. He says the Democratic party is in touch with Jesus now.

[academic punk]

Originally posted by Dr. Love
Joe Republican continued crying over his taxes... :mad:


Jpe Republican continued to live in complete ignorance that those taxes pay for his childrens schooling, his local police and firefighters, for his paved roads, etc etc.

Joe Republican failed to note any corrolation between the declining state of our nations education system and his lower and lower taxes, and the destruction of unions throughout the nation.

Joe Republican doesn't realize that when a plumber can afford to buy a house, EVERY AMERICAN CITIZEN WINS.

[academic punk]

That bieng said, referring to our character as "JOE" implies an "EVERYMAN, common goon, cog in the machine" quality...

In the interest of fair play, let's turn it around...

what's a day like in the life of JOE DEMOCRAT?

[Big Train]

Joe Republican has a fucking job and doesn't give a shit what Joe Democrat thinks or does with his day...only a liberal would have the kind of time it takes to compose a nursery rhyme about Republicans.

[academic punk]

Originally posted by Big Train
Joe Republican has a fucking job and doesn't give a shit what Joe Democrat thinks or does with his day...only a liberal would have the kind of time it takes to compose a nursery rhyme about Republicans.


ouch!

[FORD]

No, Joe Republican would rather bitch all day about people downloading Shitney Spears MP3s :rolleyes:

[Dr. Love]

Originally posted by academic punk
Jpe Republican continued to live in complete ignorance that those taxes pay for his childrens schooling, his local police and firefighters, for his paved roads, etc etc.

Joe Republican failed to note any corrolation between the declining state of our nations education system and his lower and lower taxes, and the destruction of unions throughout the nation.

Joe Republican doesn't realize that when a plumber can afford to buy a house, EVERY AMERICAN CITIZEN WINS.

I was actually referring to income tax; I don't know how other states do it, but in Texas, education is funded by property taxes, I believe.

[academic punk]

Originally posted by Dr. Love
I was actually referring to income tax; I don't know how other states do it, but in Texas, education is funded by property taxes, I believe.

Oh, so you mean the money that goes towards the country's defense systems and scientific research? Yeah, that is a big waste of money.

[academic punk]

Originally posted by Big Train
Joe Republican has a fucking job and doesn't give a shit what Joe Democrat thinks or does with his day...only a liberal would have the kind of time it takes to compose a nursery rhyme about Republicans.


FORD makes a valid point here. Repubs only see as far as thier own nose in the business world, so it was probably a Repub who thought it would be a good idea to charge 20 bucks for a god damn piece of music. after all, whatever the market can bear, right?

Well, now lookee lookee how well that's worked out...way to think towards the long-term and the repercussions of arrogant, myopic, selfish foresight.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by academic punk
FORD makes a valid point here. Repubs only see as far as thier own nose in the business world, so it was probably a Repub who thought it would be a good idea to charge 20 bucks for a god damn piece of music. after all, whatever the market can bear, right?

Well, now lookee lookee how well that's worked out...way to think towards the long-term and the repercussions of arrogant, myopic, selfish foresight.

THe Record Companies dug their own proverbial grave, they were oversharging for CD's for many years even thought the cost of production dropped dramatically!

That's the Republican mentality right there, price gouge, then whine when you suffer the consequences for it.

[DLR'sCock]

Originally posted by academic punk
FORD makes a valid point here. Repubs only see as far as thier own nose in the business world, so it was probably a Repub who thought it would be a good idea to charge 20 bucks for a god damn piece of music. after all, whatever the market can bear, right?

Well, now lookee lookee how well that's worked out...way to think towards the long-term and the repercussions of arrogant, myopic, selfish foresight.


AP, you're wasting your time...

[academic punk]

Originally posted by DLR'sCock
AP, you're wasting your time...


It's what I do best!

[Big Train]

Oh you got me...only a liberal would think it is ok to steal in the first place, think of it as "fine arts" social assistance...That at least is a VALID business argument. Shoot me, I'm pro-commerce, in an industry that provides a job to thousands of liberals. The shame of it all, how DO I live with myself? Of course, you'd rather see those thousands of liberals out of work, so we can discuss raising the freebee rate per household..

You guys are hiliarious. The price argument is the WEAKEST of all stances you can take, but whatever, you don't want to take it to the house of music, so let's drop that ok?

[academic punk]

Dude, the precedent is that it ain't illegal. Deal.

[Big Train]

Originally posted by academic punk
FORD makes a valid point here. Repubs only see as far as thier own nose in the business world, so it was probably a Repub who thought it would be a good idea to charge 20 bucks for a god damn piece of music. after all, whatever the market can bear, right?

Well, now lookee lookee how well that's worked out...way to think towards the long-term and the repercussions of arrogant, myopic, selfish foresight.

If that's his point, it's pretty dumb. Only a Republican would think like a capitalist. Actually, I take that back, it's pretty accurate. Supply and demand is in effect in every business, including academics. I SERIOUSLY doubt your industry works on the idea of "let's just see if we can get by selling it for x". They want to make as much money as possible selling their wares. It's what allows them to be able to afford to pay you. It's pretty straight ahead.

We sealed our own fate huh? Comical. We sealed our fate by runnning a succesful and highly profitable industry for decades (which fueled the growth of larger businesses, such as AOL Time Warner), until mass thievery began taking place. If you live in the fantasy world that says "if you were better to them before, they wouldn't steal now" then I can't help you..I can only hope that your industries begin to have the same kinds of problems and you can know what it feels like to work twice as hard and only get paid on every third or fourth unit of whatever it is your company sells. The suffering I have seen you may say is justified, if it makes you sleep better at night, but it is pure grand theft and the ruination of a beautiful business. We are adapting, but what happened should have never been allowed to happen in the first place, especially when enabled by an industry (software) that itself whines about people stealing THEIR stuff. It's all about Innovation people, thinking outside the box, shifting the paradigm...shut the fuck up..

[Big Train]

Originally posted by academic punk
Dude, the precedent is that it ain't illegal. Deal.

I didn't realize you were a Supreme Court Justice...guess I'll have to deal with your appointment...:rolleyes:

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by academic punk
Dude, the precedent is that it ain't illegal. Deal.


:rolleyes:

[FORD]

Anyone who thinks AOL merging with Time Warner was a "good thing for the business" obviously doesn't understand the Republican values which they claim to believe in.

It's that merger, plus other similar mega mergers, that has given us $18 CD's of crappy music which don't sell.

It's the mergers of oil conglomerates that have given us $2/gallon gas. And THIS is the capitalist greed which concerns me the most, as it should concern everyone.

Not because of the direct ties between the BCE and the oil industry (though that is certainly troubling) but because just about everything made in this country is shipped from one place to another by whatever means - plane, boat, railroad, or truck- all of which burn some byproduct of oil. Consequently, the price of all those goods & services (airfare, etc) will skyrocket along with the gas prices.

And in an economy which (despite BCE fraudulent claims to the contrary) is still fucked in most of the country, where millions of people have not had a significant cost of living raise in several years, that means a net pay cut every time these greedy corporate monopolist bastards tighten the screws a little more.

There's no "oil shortage". If there were, there wouldn't be RECORD oil profits every year since the BCE has occupied the White House.

Traditional Republican values support open competition in the market place. But competition has become impossible when an industry is in the hands of 4 or 5 mega-corporations, especially when those corporations have been caught price-fixing among themselves. And both things are true of the oil industry AND the music industry.

We're heading for an economic collapse in this country that will make 1929 look like a Mormon church picnic. And even then, some people will ignore the obvious and blame the whole thing on Clinton's penis.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Big Train
If that's his point, it's pretty dumb. Only a Republican would think like a capitalist. Actually, I take that back, it's pretty accurate. Supply and demand is in effect in every business, including academics. I SERIOUSLY doubt your industry works on the idea of "let's just see if we can get by selling it for x". They want to make as much money as possible selling their wares. It's what allows them to be able to afford to pay you. It's pretty straight ahead.

We sealed our own fate huh? Comical. We sealed our fate by runnning a succesful and highly profitable industry for decades (which fueled the growth of larger businesses, such as AOL Time Warner), until mass thievery began taking place. If you live in the fantasy world that says "if you were better to them before, they wouldn't steal now" then I can't help you..I can only hope that your industries begin to have the same kinds of problems and you can know what it feels like to work twice as hard and only get paid on every third or fourth unit of whatever it is your company sells. The suffering I have seen you may say is justified, if it makes you sleep better at night, but it is pure grand theft and the ruination of a beautiful business. We are adapting, but what happened should have never been allowed to happen in the first place, especially when enabled by an industry (software) that itself whines about people stealing THEIR stuff. It's all about Innovation people, thinking outside the box, shifting the paradigm...shut the fuck up..

OH BULLSHIT!! You A and R guys are a bunch old fucking mind-in-the-gutter dinosaurs that watched innovation pass you by! Thievery? HA! It's survival of the fittest! Pure capitalism plain and simple. You know the only reason why you people made so much money in the 80's is because people had to convert their libraries from vinyl to CD. What have you done since then to create a better product? Sue people for making cassette tapes? Rely on 25-year-old technology to deliver the goods? You guys are already abandoning Super Audio CD and DVD-Audio because you don't want to market a superior product, you'd rather just lose money investing in the Titny Spears of the world (her label loses money on since they pay her a salary way out of whack with her feeble record sales). Rather than capitalizing on the fact that MP3's and AAC files are inferior to even CD's, and that a newer, much better sounding format can become the industry standard (much like HDTV has been forced on us by the Fed. Gov't); you guys contiue to spew out the same tired old crappy 44.1/128kHz format that is much cheaper to produce today than it was over 20 years ago! Yet you charged higher and higher prices.

Thievery? How many artists were ripped off and thrown to the gutter by the record companies? How many artists, like the GOO GOO DOLLS, for instance, have had debut albums sell several millions and make very little on it until they can produce a follow up? You want to claim that record companies never break the law and then basically tell artists to "go ahead and sue us if you can afford a lawyer..."

I've already produced an objective study from HARVARD on downloading showing it may actually help sales, why don't you give us an OBJECTIVE study showing otherwise? Otherwise you risk sounding like a 1950's era record tool talking about how the "radio is costing us millions because the songs are free!"

[Big Train]

Like I said, if it makes you feel better at night Nick.

We are ripping off artists? That is partly true, but for you Joe (it's a theme) Downloader, you are COMPLETELY ripping off the artist, removing ANY possibility of them profiting from their work.

These arguments get sooooooo emotional. titney spears...c,mon Nick, you are a fucking teacher!! Those kids (the majority of them) LOVE titney spears and buy it in droves. So it offends YOUR personal taste (this goes for everyone)..boo hoo. Because Def Leppard or some punk band isn't ruling the charts, who cares.

To counter your format argument, I would say the EXACT opposite. We would LOVE to have a physical format customers buy in droves. Dualdisc looks to be the most likely at this point. The recent Judas Priest disc (I'll try to use examples that don't make you whine like bitches) for example, 40% of it's first week sales were in Dual Disc format. The new Joe Perry thing I know also will be in this format.

As for pricing, you get what you can get when you can get it. If you could make 38k teaching at a school, rather than 28k, your telling me you would not take it for as long as they offered it? Your screwing the children Nick and their community. Shame on you for taking 38k. Sounds pretty dumb, huh?

The "innovation" thing was a joke, aimed at the hypocrisy of the software industry (which obviously went RIGHT over you).

[Big Train]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh


I've already produced an objective study from HARVARD on downloading showing it may actually help sales, why don't you give us an OBJECTIVE study showing otherwise? Otherwise you risk sounding like a 1950's era record tool talking about how the "radio is costing us millions because the songs are free!"

Try , HIGHLY FLAWED study..take the brand name off and dig into it, it's pure bullshit. Their assumptions are as retarded as their results.

[blueturk]

Originally posted by Dr. Love
And then Joe Republican takes a look at his paycheck, and sees how much money is being taken away in taxes, and he begins to cry. :(

Not if he's rich!