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Panamark
04-15-2005, 04:49 AM
Hi Gear Freaks,

Does anyone know if there is a good auto-wah on the market.
I think I asked this a year back, but thought I might get some fresh
answers.

Basically I want a wah I dont have to fucking operate..
(Lazy I know)

Any suggestions ??

(Stop being lazy is not an acceptable answer ! :p)

Mr Grimsdale
04-15-2005, 05:48 AM
Hmm... you could always pay a small Philipino boy to operate your wah for you, a years wages will probably still be less than the cost of a new pedal.

Other than that I can't suggest anything.

Panamark
04-15-2005, 06:09 AM
Didnt BOSS make a T-wah or something similar ???

I think the catholic church has all the small phillipino boys
already signed up for other duties...

Mr Grimsdale
04-15-2005, 07:45 AM
Boss make an auto wah, the AW3.

http://www.soundcontrol.co.uk/mod_1/pages/mod_1.12/pages/mod_1.12.1/pages/mod_1.12.1.1/pages/index.php?sku=1.1.1.4.1-3-5

What's a T-Wah when it's at home?

BrownSound1
04-15-2005, 06:30 PM
Use an auto-wah? Blasphemy!! The thing that makes a wah-wah pedal so cool is that you can "play" it. I'll stick with my Crybaby and my Vox, thank you very much.

UGS
04-15-2005, 07:00 PM
I played a Digitech one once. . .it was decent as far as auto-wahs go. IMO, rocking the wah with your foot while you wail is 85% of the fun of wahs! Plus, rocking the foot looks cool.

Don Corleone
04-15-2005, 07:04 PM
I played through a few auto wah's (pedals and rack based), but I've not come across anything that can match the real McCoy (I like the Jim Dunlop Crybaby). That said the best Auto Wah I have tried had to be the Ibanez AW5 Auto Wah

BrownSound1
04-15-2005, 07:06 PM
Wouldn't the real McCoy be the Clyde McCoy model Vox Wah? :D

Panamark
04-16-2005, 03:26 AM
Originally posted by Mr Grimsdale
Boss make an auto wah, the AW3.

http://www.soundcontrol.co.uk/mod_1/pages/mod_1.12/pages/mod_1.12.1/pages/mod_1.12.1.1/pages/index.php?sku=1.1.1.4.1-3-5

What's a T-Wah when it's at home?

I remember one of the other guitarists I played with had this,
It was short for Touch - Wah. It was kind of an autowah
but the sharper you hit the note the more Wah you would
get. It was kinda cool...

Mr Grimsdale
04-18-2005, 06:47 AM
Originally posted by UGS
I played a Digitech one once. . .it was decent as far as auto-wahs go. IMO, rocking the wah with your foot while you wail is 85% of the fun of wahs! Plus, rocking the foot looks cool.

You have to open and close your mouth in time too. It just isn't the same unless you silently sing along.

GAR
04-18-2005, 09:09 PM
HA!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41422&item=7316411474

Zachary Vex's (zvex) OohWAH® was so successful, they did a new one with more features called the OohWAH2®.

Fucking bitchen. GRATE™ preset-controlled wah;

http://www.zvex.com/oohwah.html
http://www.zvex.com/images/oobig.jpg

First, you got a scanner built into it that sweeps over more than half a dozen inductors you preset at different ranges, you dial in the speed of how fast you want the thing to scan across 'em, and you kick it off.

I don't want many pedals but the wah is a mainstay and I want an OohWAH®!

http://www.zvex.com/images/ooh-wah_II_big2.jpg

GAR
04-18-2005, 09:10 PM
This improved version holds at step #1 when in bypass mode, and starts in time when turned on. I make another pedal called a seek-wah, but this new one does everything that one does and more. It has a random/seek stomp switch that lets you jump between the seek-wah sound and this new random mode, which sounds a little like random sample-and-hold driving a bandpass filter. If you don't know what that is... listen to Frank Zappa's "Ship Ahoy" as an example.
I know it may be confusing, but just relax and let the ooh-wah guide your tempo. When you turn it on, it will probably be playing a pattern already. If the lights are all going in a row, that's seek mode... step on the random switch to put it in random mode. Put the leftmost knob in about the middle, and turn a couple of the other eight knobs to the left. There's a little notch in each knob so you can tell it's position, and an LED by each wah control that shows which is active and by it's brightness, the wah setting. Put the tiny switch in the MIDDLE position. That sets it to 8 steps. Strum a chord and let it hang, and listen to the tempo of the unit. Bob your head to the tempo, and strum again... If you want it to be a little faster turn the leftmost knob (speed) to the LEFT, and if you want it to be a little slower turn it to the RIGHT. I know, I know, all the knobs are backwards...
If you find that the band is slipping out of time after you have the speed set just right, turn the unit off and on again at the beginning of a measure, and it will start up in time again! This feature is only available on the Ooh-Wah II.
Basically, the ooh-wah is sort of a combination of a tremolo and a wah wah pedal. If you're familiar with seventies synths, it's exactly like an analog sequencer/random sample-and-hold controlling a mellow bandpass filter. You have a choice between 4, 6, or 8 steps/channels for your wah. The 6 step positions works well with 6/8 or 3/4 time songs when in seek-mode, and you can control the total number of possible "channels" of wah with that switch in random mode. In seek-mode, the ooh-wah steps through from one wah setting to another and starts over after it gets to the end of the sequence. There's a total of 9 knobs, the leftmost being a speed control, and the other being wah settings, which get brighter when you turn them to the left. You can set up patterns which accentuate notes in arpeggiated chords at particular spots.
Or, you can set the thing to do a sort of tremolo echo in seek-mode, with the knobs set like this: 7:00, 5:00, 8:00, 5:00, 11:00, 5:00, 2:00, 5:00 (these are o'clock positions, not spinal tap 1-11). Then set the speed control for a happy tempo. Another fun setting is to put each knob at a different position and put the pedal in random mode with the random switch. Also, try putting all the knobs in a very narrow range in the middle of the wah sound (about 1 or 2:00) and set the speed pretty fast in random mode... fun burbling sound. Give me enough knobs, and I can control the world. -Z. Vex

Panamark
04-20-2005, 03:01 AM
Fark !! Thats a beast of a pedal !!

GAR
04-21-2005, 11:34 PM
There's an inductor for every knob, you can tune the circuit - think of each knob as the pedal of a crybaby.

Fun as HELL. Genius idea, I mean for production. I've heard of this being done before but for personal use only.

Mr Grimsdale
04-22-2005, 06:19 AM
where can one purchase such a device?

buckshotjenkins
04-25-2005, 11:58 AM
i have a digitech synth wah, and it's pretty good. it's from their new x-series line, so it has 7 different settings you can put it on...then again i only ever really use the main spot and another that just makes a sort of weird octave. it's tricky to find the sweet spot, but once you do it's a great tool for playing...especially playing clean jerry garcia-like mixolydian lines. i use a real wah wah too, but an auto-qah used at the right time is great. people seem to get more of a kick out of it that a standard wah!

Seshmeister
04-25-2005, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by BrownSound1
Use an auto-wah? Blasphemy!! The thing that makes a wah-wah pedal so cool is that you can "play" it. I'll stick with my Crybaby and my Vox, thank you very much.

http://library.thinkquest.org/CR0215502/correct.gif

Nitro Express
04-26-2005, 12:21 AM
An auto-wah is kind of like using a dildo to fuck your girlfriend. Fun, but not as good as doing it yourself.

Mr Grimsdale
04-26-2005, 04:03 PM
what?
using a dildo to fuck yourself?

disgusting!

you should be ashamed of yourself
bad boy!
to your room

Nitro Express
04-27-2005, 04:07 PM
Yeah, I control my vibrating butt plug with an Ooh Wah II. They don't call it an Ooh Wah for nothing!

GAR
04-27-2005, 04:25 PM
Impossible.

Its not meant to be nor wired up as a motorspeed controller.

Mr Grimsdale
04-27-2005, 04:48 PM
look, regardless of field mods, where the fook can i get one?

Nitro Express
04-27-2005, 10:10 PM
Yeah but you could always glue a jelly dildo to a speaker cone and control that with an Ooh Wah.

Mr Grimsdale
04-29-2005, 01:57 PM
dis-gusting

and that's a lotta gusting

Don Corleone
04-29-2005, 01:59 PM
Originally posted by Mr Grimsdale
look, regardless of field mods, where the fook can i get one?

Have you tried Soundcontrol?

Mr Grimsdale
04-29-2005, 02:01 PM
in all seriousness i was chatting to the lads in CCGX and mentioned the ooh-wah to them and they said this little baby blows it out of the water...

http://www.pigtronix.com/products.htm

http://www.pigtronix.com/images/EP1/ep-1solocrop.jpg

the whole pig thing is a bit shite, but once you get past that it's a top pedal

(sound clip)
http://www.pigtronix.com/audio/Funky%20EP-1.mp3

Mr Grimsdale
04-29-2005, 02:03 PM
it's top shite

and i say that most sincerely

Hecubus
05-14-2005, 11:57 PM
When I first started playing, I bought the Dan Electro "French Fries" auto-wah. It was like $25. It got some decent enough sounds, but it didn't give a lot of bottom end.

Hecubus
05-14-2005, 11:58 PM
And I have an auto-wah set on my Vox AD30VT that sounds a boatload better than the DE pedal, but I still prefer the crybaby.