The Same Ol' New Morality-A slippery slope

[Top Jimmy]

CNN) -- The nation's largest radio chain has taken shock jock Howard Stern off its stations indefinitely for running afoul of new decency standards.

"We will not air Howard Stern on Clear Channel stations until we are assured that his show will conform to acceptable standards of responsible broadcasting," said a statement from John Hogan, president and CEO of Clear Channel Radio.

Clear Channel operates 1,200 stations nationwide. It was unclear how many of its stations currently run Stern, who is syndicated across the country by another company, Infinity Broadcasting. The suspension applies only to Clear Channel stations.

Earlier in the day, Clear Channel, which has been under fire from the Federal Communications Commission over allegedly indecent content aired on its stations, announced a zero-tolerance policy that called for immediate suspension of its on-air personalities who cross the line.

Hogan said there would be "no appeals and no immediate steps" for DJs found in violation, and that on-air personalities employed by Clear Channel who were found to have violated FCC indecency rules would be fired.

The company said Stern's suspension from its stations came after a review of his Tuesday broadcast.

"Clear Channel drew a line in the sand today with regard to protecting our listeners from indecent content, and Howard Stern's show blew right through it," Hogan said.

"It was vulgar, offensive and insulting, not just to women and African-Americans but to anyone with a sense of common decency."

The statement did not outline what parts of Stern's show ran afoul of the policy or how long the suspension might last.

In January, the FCC announced it would fine Clear Channel $750,000 for allegedly indecent content aired by one of its DJs, Todd Clem, known as Bubba the Love Sponge. The company fired Clem on Tuesday.

[Top Jimmy]

it's a new witch hunt, and it's happening fast people....it's the new morality....Dubya started it....and when they get their man ARNIE in the White House (beleive me when I say it will happen inside of a decade) it'll be 'purity laws'....and oh man I see where this is all headed...do you? Then we'll be 'purifying' the races....oh Big Brother is BACK in Black people, and he drives a hummer......

[Top Jimmy]

be afraid....be VERY afraid.

[Rubnose]

This is in the Non DLR Forum already.

What the F)*& does Stern have to do with the Front Line?

[Top Jimmy]

.....are ya drinking tonight or what? There's a bigger point being made there than the actual content of the post......HELLLOO, MCFLY...ANYBODY HOME?????

[Top Jimmy]

it's got EVERYTHING to do with the front line......

[FORD]

I gotta agree with TJ here. Clear Channel is not only the largest radio chain in the country, they're also the largest concert promoter and they own about half the billboards as well.

In other words Clear Channel is one of the most corporate of the corporate media. That's bad enough.

What's far worse is that the company is very closely tied to....

You guessed it, the Bush Criminal Empire!


There are close ties between the company and President Bush. The Vice Chair of the company is Tom Hicks, a member of the Bush Pioneer club for elite (and generous) donors. The relationship between Bush and Hicks goes back even further, however. The two were embroiled in scandal when Hicks, as University of Texas Regent, was responsible for granting endowment management contracts of the newly created (under legislation signed by Bush) UT Investment Management Co. (UTIMCO). The contracts were given to firms politically connected to both Hicks and Bush, including the Carlyle Group - a firm which has the first President Bush on the payroll and had the second one on the payroll until just weeks before receiving this lucrative business. The board of UTIMCO also included the Chair of Clear Channel, L. Lowry Mays. In addition, Hicks purchased the Texas Rangers from George Bush, making him a wealthy man through a deal that was partially sweetened by a shiny new taxpayer financed stadium, which included valuable land obtained at below market rates through the use of eminent domain.

Whether or not the close ties between the radio behemoth Clear Channel and the president have anything to do with their rallying support for his policies is unclear. If it were a small company it would not much matter. But Clear Channel is a media giant, dominating the radio and promotion industries. The potential for the alignment of big media and the government should concern us all, especially as FCC Chair Michael Powell continues to push to reduce the barriers to even further media consolidation.

[FORD]

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/images/clearbush1.jpg

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/radiogaga.html

[ELVIS]

Howard Stern pushed the envelope by using the word "******"...

I'm glad they pulled his lame show...

[Viking]

You'd think the PC Socialist crowd would be screaming for Stern's head if he used the word ******. But noooooo, we already had one pop out her mam for 10-year-olds to see on national television, any they giggled with delight over that. Well, if the Left's plantation blacks have to endure a slur for the good of the lowest-common-denominator cause, den' dey's jus' gonna have ta suck it up if dey wants Big Brutha to continue to takes care of their asses. :rolleyes:

[FORD]

The "PC socialist crowd" doesn't listen to Stern.

I haven't listened to him myself since 9-11-01. That was the first, last and only time that anything happening in NYC was relevant at 6:00 in the fucking morning.

Howard's show is too NY-centric for national syndication. Not that I'm excusing BCE-Clear Channel, mind you.

[Wayne L.]

I think it's a troubling sign in the USA when Howard Stern is taken off the air then Rush Limbaugh could be taken off the air next which is a violation of freedom speech in the US Constitution meaning you could be next which means the federal goverment is getting way too powerful & way too big no matter who is in the White House.

[John Ashcroft]

Bill Clinton already tried. Remember his rhetoric following the Murrah Building bombing? Fucking asshole stomps all over the Constitution when taking out political enemies. Thank God the American public didn't let him get away with it. Which is exaclty what will happen with Stern's show. People tune in and know what their getting, which is in direct contrast to the Super Bowl halftime show.

Oh, and there's certainly a difference between this episode and Clinton's... Clinton actually said he wanted to take Conservative hosts off the air. Bush has said nothing about Stern.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Wayne L.
I think it's a troubling sign in the USA when Howard Stern is taken off the air then Rush Limbaugh could be taken off the air next which is a violation of freedom speech in the US Constitution meaning you could be next which means the federal goverment is getting way too powerful & way too big no matter who is in the White House.

Would you learn some basic fuckin' grammar? :lol:

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Top Jimmy
it's a new witch hunt, and it's happening fast people....it's the new morality....Dubya started it....and when they get their man ARNIE in the White House (beleive me when I say it will happen inside of a decade) it'll be 'purity laws'....and oh man I see where this is all headed...do you? Then we'll be 'purifying' the races....oh Big Brother is BACK in Black people, and he drives a hummer......


Hmmmm...............................

Is this similar to the Democrats railing and whining against FOXNEWS and saying something ought to be done about them?

Is this similar to FORD and other liberal whackos like Pink Spider always bitching about the corporate media and saying something should be done about them?

You liberals cry foul on censorship in this case but you're no different when it comes to your own socialist agenda. ;)

[FORD]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
Hmmmm...............................

Is this similar to the Democrats railing and whining against FOXNEWS and saying something ought to be done about them?

Is this similar to FORD and other liberal whackos like Pink Spider always bitching about the corporate media and saying something should be done about them?

You liberals cry foul on censorship in this case but you're no different when it comes to your own socialist agenda. ;)


There's a major difference. As distasteful and sickening as Mush Limpdick is, I don't have any problem with him being on the air, spouting his bullshit.

What's different about FAUX and Clear Channel is their direct ties to the Fraudministration itself.

The BCE-Clear Channel connection is well documented above, and the FAUX News roster includes actual members of PNAC. Bill Kristol, for example, appears on the network almost daily and several other members of the fascist cabal are frequent "contributors" on FAUX's shows.

This is STATE CONTROLLED SOVIET/NAZI STYLE PROPAGANDA, there simply is no denying that.

[John Ashcroft]

I'll deny it.

Anyone else up?

[Top Jimmy]

hmmm...ok..I'll deny it, too.....what were we talking about again?

[John Ashcroft]

Originally posted by FORD
This is STATE CONTROLLED SOVIET/NAZI STYLE PROPAGANDA, there simply is no denying that.

This. ;)

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by Wayne L.
I think it's a troubling sign in the USA when Howard Stern is taken off the air then Rush Limbaugh could be taken off the air next which is a violation of freedom speech in the US Constitution meaning you could be next which means the federal goverment is getting way too powerful & way too big no matter who is in the White House.

it's a troubling sign when Howard is taken off the air? Why? There are numerous shock jocks taken off the air for multiple different reasons. Hell, my favorite radio due were taken off the air for inaccurate reporting that happened against them.

Oh *waves fingers* Howard got taken off the air...again. Maybe he'll start the suspense now that he won't renew his contract when that comes up and start taking long vacations. That old gag.

Howard is boring, unfunny, and predictable.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by FORD
There's a major difference. As distasteful and sickening as Mush Limpdick is, I don't have any problem with him being on the air, spouting his bullshit.

:rolleyes: Yeah, right.

What's different about FAUX and Clear Channel is their direct ties to the Fraudministration itself.

The BCE-Clear Channel connection is well documented above, and the FAUX News roster includes actual members of PNAC. Bill Kristol, for example, appears on the network almost daily and several other members of the fascist cabal are frequent "contributors" on FAUX's shows.

That dog doesn't hunt. Bill Kristol doesn't have freedom of speech, huh? Only your liberal lackeys do?


This is STATE CONTROLLED SOVIET/NAZI STYLE PROPAGANDA, there simply is no denying that.

Move. Just get the fuck out.

[FORD]

Bill Kristol is a treasonous agent of a foreign government. Hell no, he shouldn't be on TV, in print or anywhere else. Except in front of a firing squad.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by FORD
Bill Kristol is a treasonous agent of a foreign government. Hell no, he shouldn't be on TV, in print or anywhere else. Except in front of a firing squad.


See. You prove my point. ;)

[Top Jimmy]

Originally posted by John Ashcroft
This. ;)


ohhh....gotcha....and I agree...CNN is the governement's propaganda wing....whter they know it or not...and I suspect they are duplicitly complicit.....They are always RIGHT THERE....but instead of being 'attached' to the governement in some covert (S)uper (S)ecret way.....they merely decide to be veeerryyyy um....uh...letseee...GIVING to one particular media outfit....that way they reap the benefits of having a propaganda ministry, without having to PAY FOR IT...hire people....health benefits....etc.....it's the ultimate form of what us PROUD UNION GUYS call f*&#%ing CONTRACTING OUT......but more that THAT.....it gives the government PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY...get it?? "We don't even HAVE a propaganda wing, much less ENGAGE in that sort of nonsense...now...uh...GOD BLESS AMERIKKA, thanks you for your support, please drive through....."

git it?:cool:

[Pink Spider]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
Hmmmm...............................

Is this similar to the Democrats railing and whining against FOXNEWS and saying something ought to be done about them?

Is this similar to FORD and other liberal whackos like Pink Spider always bitching about the corporate media and saying something should be done about them?

You liberals cry foul on censorship in this case but you're no different when it comes to your own socialist agenda. ;)

Don't speak for me. I think that the corporate media has a right as much as anyone else to speak up, as long as their drowned out by the opinions of the citizenry. Nevermind that the corporate media is a complete tool of the government. Nevermind that no one else gets a fair say at anything. If the corporate media wants to survive, they should have to fight to be heard like everyone else. The people own the airwaves, not the corporations. Taking them back should be a main priority.

[DLR'sCock]

Stern was taken off of the Clear Channell stations only...

He works for Infinity Broadcasting, owned by Viacom, and is still on all of their affiliates... Also you should know that Infinity and Clear Channel are competitors...

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Pink Spider
Don't speak for me.

Someone needs to. You make little sense otherwise. :gulp:

[Seshmeister]

I think it's pretty fucking pathetic when the band 'The Darkness' has to record a special version of their album removing the word fuck so that it can be sold in US supermarkets!

At least back in the day the PMRC only made you put a sticker on it.

I bet a lot of the conservative posters here were appalled with the PMRC in the 80s yet as they get older they have become even more reactionary than they ever were.

Pretty sad...

Cheers!

:gulp:

[steve]

Originally posted by ELVIS
Howard Stern pushed the envelope by using the word "******"...

I'm glad they pulled his lame show...


No. read the transcript of the show. A caller said that and Stern immediately hung up on him.

Stern is being made a scapegoat for a witch hunt.