Winslow injured in motorcycle accident

[ALinChainz]

May 2, 2005


WESTLAKE, Ohio (AP) -- Browns tight end Kellen Winslow Jr. was injured in a motorcycle accident, but the team said his injuries aren't life-threatening.

Winslow was riding in a community college parking lot Sunday when he hit a curb at about 35 mph and was thrown from the motorcycle, police Lt. Ray Arcuri said.

He was taken by ambulance to Fairview Hospital and was scheduled to be transferred to the Cleveland Clinic on Monday where the team's medical staff would treat him, Browns spokesman Bill Bonsiewicz said.

``He went over the handlebars and was real evasive about what the injuries were,'' Arcuri said.

Winslow was wearing a helmet, but it wasn't strapped on and flew off his head, Arcuri said. He and four other men were riding motorcycles in the parking lot, not far from Winslow's home.

The first-round draft pick missed nearly all of his rookie year after breaking his leg in the second game of the season. He has had two operations on the leg.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Do you have the feeling that the Browns management are saying to each other, "what did we get into ourselves into with this guy" ???

[vanzilla]

I love it. What a crybaby pussy.

Will we ever see "THE TIGHT END OF THE FUTURE?"

I used to love the Browns too, at least the original team before they moved to B-more. Now, not so much.

That whole Kelly Holcombe, Tim Couch thing turned me on them.

[Bill Lumbergh]

Originally posted by vanzilla
I love it. What a crybaby pussy.

Will we ever see "THE TIGHT END OF THE FUTURE?"

I used to love the Browns too, at least the original team before they moved to B-more. Now, not so much.

That whole Kelly Holcombe, Tim Couch thing turned me on them.

Fucking bandwagon fans..........

[ALinChainz]

Not to mention the performance clauses that WON'T kick and the fact that it was written into his deal about "dangerous activities", such as riding motorcycles.

According to the Rumor Mill, they could be looking for a refund, as it isn't certain that he will even play in '05.

[ALinChainz]

POSTED 10:28 p.m. EDT, May 2, 2005, from profootballtalk.com, The Rumor Mill



WINSLOW TO LOSE MORE THAN $9 MILLION?



Setting aside for now the question of whether Browns tight end "Evel Kellenievel" Winslow should have been riding a motorcycle as he still rehabs from a broken leg that scuttled his 2004 rookie season (and prevented him from earning a big-money bonus payment by failing to participate in 30 percent of the team's offensive snaps), we've gotten a look-see at Winslow's contract, which indicates that he shouldn't have been riding a motorcycle at all. Ever. Period.



As a general matter, Winslow has breached Paragraph 3 of his contract, which prevents him from "engag[ing] in any activity other than football which may involve a significant risk of personal injury."



And this breach could have significant consequences. Winslow's motorcycling allows the team (if it so chooses) to recover $5 million of his initial signing bonus and the full $4.4125 million of his option bonus triggered at the outset of the 2005 league year, $2.4125 million of which won't actually be paid to Winslow until July 15.



So the total potential price tag on Winslow's deliberate failure to comply with the terms of his contract is a whopping $9.4125 million.



Under the contract, Winslow becomes potentially responsible to pay back the bonus money due to "injury as a result of a breach of Paragraph 3 of the Contract" or "as a result of participation in hazardous activities which involve a significant risk of personal injury and are non-football in nature, including but not limited to skydiving, hang gliding, mountain climbing, auto racing, motorcycling, scuba diving, or skiing." (Emphasis added.)



The bottom line is that, under the terms of Winslow's deal, getting injured while motorcycling is no different that walking away from his contractual obligations, a la Ricky Williams did nearly a year ago.



In either case, the club can recover bonus money.



And in Winslow's case, he could end up forking over more than $9 million.



The bigger question is whether the Browns should make a grab for Winslow's $9 million. Since the guy that drafted Winslow is long gone and given that we can't imagine Winslow and 2005 first-round pick Braylon Edwards co-existing in the same conference much less in the same locker room, we think the Browns should send Winslow a bill for $9.4125 million, and then let nature take its course.



If nothing else, such a move could help the Browns recoup a major chunk of Butch Davis' buyout.

[twonabomber]

If nothing else, such a move could help the Browns recoup a major chunk of Butch Davis' buyout.

nah. if Lerner really needs the money that bad, all he's gotta do is raise the interest rates on all your MBNA credit cards. :D

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Originally posted by vanzilla
Will we ever see "THE TIGHT END OF THE FUTURE?"

You can still see him bro...

Come down the Turnpike to P-Burgh, his name is Heath Miller...

If they ever throw him the fucking ball, that is... ;)

[vanzilla]

Originally posted by Bill Lumbergh
Fucking bandwagon fans..........

Isn't there a Giants game you should be watching?

Oh, Barry's still out. My bad.:D

[ALinChainz]

Originally posted by vanzilla
Isn't there a Giants game you should be watching?

Oh, Barry's still out. My bad.:D

A 3rd knee surgery too ... might not play this season now.

[DlocRoth]

Originally posted by ALinChainz
A 3rd knee surgery too ... might not play this season now.

He better play.

The fucker is holding a DL slot on my team....

After the break.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Ain't looking good for his playing career, if the reports are true...

http://www.newsnet5.com/sports/4460612/detail.html

Winslow's Injuries Turn Out To Be Truly Serious
Officials Re-Create Accident

POSTED: 5:13 pm EDT May 6, 2005

CLEVELAND -- Browns tight end Kellen Winslow's injuries are much more serious than first thought, NewsChannel5 reported.

5 On Your Side Health Team Anchor Lee Jordan reported sources close to the Winslow story said the Sunday motorcycle accident left Winslow with a broken tibia and femur, along with a fracture to the large bone in his thigh. His ACL was damaged, possibly torn and there are lacerations on his liver and kidney.

NewsChannel5's source continues to stand by the information.

One media outlet is even suggesting Winslow's football career is over, WEWS reported.

Winslow previously had two surgeries on the right leg the he broke last fall.

Re-Creating Accident

Meanwhile, officials in Westlake re-created Winslow's accident by duplicating the motorcycle's skid marks in the parking lot of Cuyahoga Community College. The test, which involved using a special device, was designed to help gauge Winslow's speed when he crashed his motorcycle Sunday night.

WEWS reported police didn't have a bike similar to Winslow's, so a Channel 19 reporter, with nearly the same bike and tires as Winslow's volunteered to do the skid test. Police gave him the green light.

Westlake police repeatedly cautioned the rider to go slowly, so they could estimate Winslow's speed.

He ended up falling off the bike when attempting to stop. (See Video)

Officials said the reconstruction closely resembled what happened to Winslow.

"As everybody saw, you can see how easy it is to lose control on a motorcycle when you're braking," said Lt. Bill Eschenfelder of the Westlake Police Department.

[ALinChainz]

Browns can't say how badly Winslow hurt

By TOM WITHERS, AP Sports Writer

May 18, 2005


CLEVELAND (AP) -- The Cleveland Browns finally know how much damage Kellen Winslow Jr. did to his right knee. Now, they can't say how badly he's hurt.

The club has not received authorization from Winslow or his family to disclose any of the injuries the tight end sustained when he crashed his motorcycle on May 1, team spokesman Bill Bonsiewicz said.

Winslow underwent an MRI exam on Tuesday at the Cleveland Clinic. Doctors had been waiting for the swelling to go down before they could do further tests. The Browns received the results on Wednesday but they can't release them to the public until Winslow or his representatives give them permission.



Winslow could be waiting to get another medical opinion before disclosing the extent of his injury.

The club has braced itself for bad news on Winslow, who could miss the upcoming season. The former Miami star played in only two games as a rookie last season before breaking his right leg while trying to recover an onside kick in Week 2.

While riding his newly purchased motorcycle in a parking lot near his Westlake home, the 21-year-old Winslow was hurt when he slammed the high-powered bike into a curb and went flying over the handlebars.

He spent nine days in the hospital before being released.

Police have concluded their investigation of Winslow's accident and turned over their case to Westlake law director John Wheeler, who will determine whether charges should be filed, Lt. Ray Arcuri said.

Wheeler did not return a phone call seeking comment.

Police never interviewed Winslow about the accident because his attorney wanted to know the questions in advance, said Arcuri, who called the request ``silly.''

Winslow could be charged with reckless operation, which carries a maximum penalty of 30 days in jail and a $250 fine.

His use of a motorcycle violated standard NFL player contract language that prohibits players from engaging in dangerous activities. The Browns could require him to return millions of dollars in signing bonuses. The team has declined to comment on his contract.

[Mezro]

What a fucking dumb ass. Why couldn't he just sit at home, jack off and smoke rock like most NFL players?

Mezro...back to Burger King Winslow...kiss your $40 million bye bye...

[ALinChainz]

Just read where he is DONE for AT LEAST 2005 now.

Maybe for good.

Threw away his career by being stupid. And millions.

[vanzilla]

Again, couldn't happened to a nicer guy.

What's more amazing. His contract specifically stated he was prohibited from riding motorcycles.

Talk about someone thinking they're bulletproof.

I don't feel sorry for him one bit. He still has daddy's money to fall back on.

[vanzilla]

In fact, the only people I feel bad for are the BROWNS scouts and fans who have to suck this one up.

If I was Davis, I would've taken Winslow too. It's a no-win situation.

[ALinChainz]

You can do all the background checks on a guy you want, somethings don't surface until it's too late.

This guy was trying to charge teams or agents (can't remember which) $10,000 to just interview him. Maybe the writing was on the wall.

I know Davis almost had to take him because he didn't want to have the Portis thing over his head anymore and they traded up a spot with Detroit to get him.

Even if he was hell bent on riding a motorcycle, he still was much too careless in doing so. Being a novice, popping wheelies and erratic driving, all while still limping from the leg he broke in wee 2 of last season.

[vanzilla]

I went back and looked at some preseason footage we had of him back at the station (we produce the Titans preseason games). When the Browns came to town last summer, they didn't let any media members talk to the guy, didn't let us talk to him in our production meeting (it's usually protocal for the broadcasters to talk to key players before the game to get personal nuggets), and they whisked him away to the airport in a limo, while all of the other players took the usual charter buses.

Now, you would think a guy who is treated like the BARRY FUCKIN' BONDS of the NFL would at least be worth a shit.

We have 5 minutes of footage that iso'd him getting his ass rocked by Randy Starks EVERY SINGLE PLAY. It's like he wasn't out there at all. One shot he obviously looked frustrated and his eyes were all watery like he was about to cry. This guy is the BIGGEST PUSSY I've ever seen strap on a helmet. I would almost guarentee if he hadn't been injury plagued he would be as big of a bust as RYAN LEAF.

[ALinChainz]

I think if they try and get any of his bonus money back, it will tell the tale ... he might be done for good.

[ALinChainz]

Police: Winslow to be cited in motorcycle crash

May 20, 2005


CLEVELAND (AP) -- Browns tight end Kellen Winslow Jr. will be charged with disregarding safety in the motorcycle crash that put his 2005 season in jeopardy, police said.

Police in suburban Westlake will issue a citation Friday afternoon, Lt. Ray Arcuri said. The charge carries a maximum fine of $150 with no jail time.

Winslow tore the anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee when he crashed, two sources within the league told The Associated Press. An injury such as Winslow's typically requires 10 to 12 months of rehabilitation.

Winslow also sustained unspecified internal injuries when his motorcycle hit a curb at 35 mph and he flipped over the handlebars while practicing in a parking lot near his home May 1.

The Browns have Winslow's medical test results but the club cannot disclose the nature of his injuries because they have not received permission from Winslow or his family.

He spent nine days in the Cleveland Clinic before being released last week. Winslow, who has been resting at home, has not commented on his accident or his injuries.

Winslow, who missed 14 games as a rookie with a broken leg, breached a hazardous activities clause in his contract by riding the motorcycle. The Browns could ask him to return part of the money he already has been paid as part of his six-year, $40 million contract.

[twonabomber]

there's video of Winslow doing stunts here (http://www.cleveland.com/news/webcast/clip.ssf?zzDoNotCount?/news/webcast/winslow_moto1.frame) and here (http://www.cleveland.com/news/webcast/clip.ssf?zzDoNotCount?/news/webcast/winslow_moto2.frame) .

[twonabomber]

Endo his season
Saturday, May 21, 2005
Mary Kay Cabot
Plain Dealer Reporter

A surveillance video showing Kellen Winslow Jr. performing dangerous stunts on his motorcycle led to the Browns tight end being charged Friday with operating his sport bike in willful or wanton disregard of safety.

The offense is a minor misdemeanor that carries a maximum fine of $150 with no jail time. Winslow could have four points added to his Ohio driving record. If an Ohio driver accumulates 12 points in a two-year period, the driver's license is suspended for six months. Winslow has zero points on his Ohio license.

In 2003 in California, Winslow was clocked at 90 mph in a 65 mph zone and had to attend traffic school.

Westlake Police Lt. Ray Arcuri said a key piece of evidence presented to Westlake Prosecutor John Wheeler was the tape, which clearly shows Winslow popping wheelies and endos, a stunt where the back wheel is popped.

"He was caught on tape attempting these dangerous stunts, so it was clear to us that this was more than just negligence or failure to maintain control of his vehicle," Arcuri said. "We definitely felt he was being reckless."

Winslow crashed his red Suzuki GSX-R750 May 1 in the parking lot of Cuyahoga Community College's Corporate College West in Westlake. He hit a curb and flew over the handlebars, landing about 16 feet away in a landscaped area. He suffered a torn anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee, according to a source, and will miss the 2005 season.

The surveillance tape clearly shows Winslow, clad in a red leather jacket, performing several endos and at least one wheelie. At one point, he swerves to avoid hitting a landscaped island in the lot.

"He almost crashed right there," Arcuri said.

Wheeler said the tape helped him make his decision.

"Based upon the conclusion of the accident reconstruction, the accident report and the tape, I found that Mr. Winslow operated his vehicle in a willful and wanton disregard of safety, and I told the police to issue him a ticket," Wheeler said. "I felt the evidence was conclusive. On the video, you see Mr. Winslow doing all sorts of stunts on the motorcycle."

The next step is for police to issue the citation and forward it to Rocky River Municipal Court. The court then will mail a summons to Winslow ordering him to appear in court to answer the charge.

Arcuri said Winslow declined to be interviewed during the investigation through his attorney, Michael Nelson. Arcuri said Nelson had asked for a list of questions beforehand, which "is unusual in this type of situation. We just wanted to give him an opportunity to give his version of the events."

The tape corroborates eyewitness accounts of Winslow performing stunts in the weeks leading up to the accident. On April 16, police responded to a call that Winslow was popping wheelies on the streets of his Westlake subdivision. When they arrived, he was gone.

Also, on the day of his accident, he was seen popping a wheelie by an off-duty Canton-area policeman while on his way out of a Starboyz motorcycle stunt demonstration in Canton.

Winslow's contract with the Browns expressly prohibited him from participating in hazardous activities such as motorcycling. The team may elect to recoup between $5.7 million and $10 million from Winslow for breach of contract.

Winslow, who spent nine days in the Cleveland Clinic recuperating from his injuries, which included undisclosed internal injuries, is back home in Westlake and being driven to the Browns facility in Berea for rehabilitation on the knee. He will undergo reconstructive surgery after possibly getting a second opinion.

[superdave]

Winslow is an idiot who fucked up his chance to be an NFL star like his father, I think it is rather funny

[twonabomber]

i find it funny that those cocksucking agents of his now look like complete and total fuckholes.

[POJO_Risin]

It's sad really...I'm not a Browns fan...but just sad...

[POJO_Risin]

How can these fuckers be so fucking stupid...

[Unchainme]

I'm Browns fan and they way I look at is that hey this would have happened sooner or later with this idiot. Thank God We Had A Good Draft this year for once. http://www.dallasnews.com/img/photo/01-05/rosebowl9.jpg

[POJO_Risin]

Wow...unchainme...you should be shot thinking a Wolverine is a GOOD pick...

bringing this back...

seems as though Winslow had his helmet on...but not strapped...and it flew off...

[Unchainme]

Originally posted by POJO_Risin
Wow...unchainme...you should be shot thinking a Wolverine is a GOOD pick...

bringing this back...

seems as though Winslow had his helmet on...but not strapped...and it flew off...


Well Hypothetically If the steelers had drafted lets say Brady in the 6th round, Wouldn't you call that a good pick EVEN if he's from MICHIGAN?

Look I hated the guys guts when he played against Purdue and OSU (Braylon that is.), But I could tell the guy was talented and Am very happy we picked him up.

[POJO_Risin]

No...

Tom Brady is a cunt...no matter who he plays for...

It would be like rooting for the Steelers because they won the Super Bowl...when you are a Browns fan...

[Unchainme]

so because he plays from the Browns, i am not aloud to like him because he went to Michigan? Even If he leads the browns to the super Bowl, I'm not aloud to like him.

Look I love Ohio State and thought Holmes was a grate player there, But do you honestly expect me to root for when he is wearing yellow and Black?

FUCK NO!,I pledged allegiance to the Browns.

[POJO_Risin]

I root for all OSU players...no matter the team they are on...

can't fucking stand Michigan players...and would never want my team to draft them for anything...

you're "allowed" to root for whomever you want...

Michigan fan...;)

[POJO_Risin]

And shit...didn't Edwards miss most of the season either on the bench...or injured...lmfao...yeah...a great draft...;)

[Unchainme]

Originally posted by POJO_Risin
And shit...didn't Edwards miss most of the season either on the bench...or injured...lmfao...yeah...a great draft...;)

less than half I believe, When I saw him when I was at the game against the dolphins he and Droughens were kicking ass. 22-0 was the final score, Don't remember all the stats, But you could sense that the Browns were improving and that they could be on fire in a couple of years.

[Unchainme]

Year Stats

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7179

Dolphins game.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=251120005

Now mind you this was no pushover Dolphins team, they finished the year 9-7, Many of the Cleveland sports press were calling it the best game ever played since the Browns came back in 1999.

[POJO_Risin]

Go Wolverines!!!!

[POJO_Risin]

I don't need to see Braylon's stats (I have him on my fantasy team)...

The only stats I'll worry about are when they play the Steelers...

[Unchainme]

Originally posted by POJO_Risin
Go Wolverines!!!!

http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/red-dawn.jpg

??????

:D