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Hardrock69
05-24-2005, 01:30 AM
Wind power could generate enough electricity to support the world's energy needs several times over, according to a new map of global wind speeds that scientists say is the first of its kind.

The map, compiled by researchers at Stanford University, shows wind speeds at more than 8,000 sites around the world. The researchers found that at least 13 percent of those sites experience winds fast enough to power a modern wind turbine. If turbines were set up in all these regions, they would generate 72 terawatts of electricity, according to the researchers.

That's more than five times the world's energy needs, which was roughly 14 terawatts in 2002, according to the U.S. Department of Energy.

The researchers readily admit that existing buildings, land rights and other obstacles would make it impossible to set up turbines in every single one of the identified regions. But they point out that even 20 percent of those sites could satisfy world energy consumption as it stands today.

More importantly, the study shows that wind can be a feasible alternative to fossil fuels, said study co-author Cristina Archer.

"There is really a lot of wind out there that can be utilized for electricity generation," said Archer. "The 72-terawatt finding quantifies how much wind power is available.... It's like when people say how much oil is available on a global scale. It doesn't mean all of it will be extracted."

If anything, the 72-terawatt figure is likely to be on the low side. Most of the 8,199 wind-monitoring stations that contributed data to the map are concentrated in highly developed nations. So the researchers had to make broad and often conservative estimates for countries in Africa and Asia, and for other regions.

"They are probably significantly underestimating the total potential," said Christopher Flavin, CEO of the Worldwatch Institute, an environmental research firm.

For instance, Flavin pointed to China, which several environmental organizations have identified as having great potential for wind power. In contrast, the Stanford map shows only a few locations there having the wind speeds necessary to power a wind turbine.

Of the regions that are well-marked by the map, North America and parts of Northern Europe both have a high number of ideal spots for setting up wind turbines. To date, Northern Europe -- and Denmark in particular -- has made the best use of that potential. Approximately 20 percent of Denmark's energy consumption is fulfilled by wind power, according to the Danish Wind Industry Association.

The United States, on the other hand, generates less than 1 percent of its electricity with wind power.

Archer said it was "ironic and sad" that the United States wasn't doing more, given the resources available.

"But it's not too late," she said. "We can still do it and I really hope we do."

The authors' study is scheduled to appear in the Journal of Geophysical Research -- Atmospheres later this month.


http://wired.com/news/planet/0%2C2782%2C67600%2C00.html?tw=wn_tophead_5

vanzilla
05-24-2005, 01:34 AM
Nice read HR.

Sad we're not doing anything with this.

Oil will rule until it's too late to turn back.

Hardrock69
05-24-2005, 01:51 AM
Yup.

Oh, and also there is new technology hitting the market soon in the realms of solar panels.

I am going to post a seperate thread about this, as if you are a homeowner as I am, you are always trying to figure out ways to save money. And of course, if we can reduce our dependence on oil for our energy needs, that is the BIG deal....

So there is this company with a radical technology coming out SOON...

BenJammin
05-24-2005, 08:33 PM
The solar energy technologies that will save the world:

-Solar chimney (updraft created to run turbine)

-Solar thermal (collection and storage of sun's heat to turn steam turbines)

-Photovoltaics (traditional PV and the new ones you mentioned in another thread that are 'printable' and much cheaper using nanotechnology)

-Solar electrolysis to produce hydrogen (for powering other things like cars without having to use batteries, which are another blight on the environment)

-Wind farms (as this thread highlights....and yes it ultimately is 'solar' because solar energy creates the wind!)

Hardrock69
05-26-2005, 09:53 AM
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/13.06/craven.html?tw=wn_tophead_10

Anonymous
05-26-2005, 12:47 PM
Grate! Let us all break wind, then. With any luck, if we all fart in the same direction at the same time, we will even move the Earth out of its orbit, making the climate here be something like Hawaii.

Cheers! :bottle:

Hardrock69
05-26-2005, 01:34 PM
Or causing us to fall into the sun, making the climate here something like the sun....

Nitro Express
05-27-2005, 02:49 AM
It all reminds me of the 1970's. Everyone was talking about how windmills and how solar panels would be on every house.

You never can win though. If they build these huge wind farms the same people in the Sierra Club that are complaining about the use of fossil fuels will complain about how the ugly windmills are ruining and raping the landscape. You can build the things in the ugliest piece of shit wasteland in Nevada and these same environmental groups will go apeshit.

Oil is evil but maybe wind harvesting will be the next evil industry.

Hardrock69
05-27-2005, 11:49 AM
Man if they could just build enough wind farms.

But even if they did, we would have to continue to pay the power companies for power. Of course it would be nice anyway, as it would be clean energy.

The best bet would be to create the solar cells that were way more efficient than what is currently available. That company NanoSolar is on the right track I believe.

If you REALLY want to check out some fantastic technology that has been patented, and is a result of the work of Nicola Tesla, check out this generator that gets energy out of thin air:

www.cheniere.org

This guy (Tom Bearden) is a highly respected physiicist and has worked on many secret programs for the government and various laboratories. He has a team of people who likewise are well qualified int heir fields.

Don Corleone
05-27-2005, 12:47 PM
Fab finally has a use to the planet.