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DLR'sCock
05-26-2005, 07:08 PM
Guantanamo Guards Accused of Mistreating Koran
By Dan Eggen
The Washington Post

Wednesday 25 May 2005

Newly released FBI documents detail allegations.
Nearly a dozen detainees at the Guantanamo Bay military prison in Cuba told FBI interrogators that guards had mistreated copies of the Koran, including one who said in 2002 that guards "flushed a Koran in the toilet," according to new FBI documents released today.

The summaries of FBI interviews, obtained by the American Civil Liberties Union as part of an ongoing lawsuit, also include allegations that the Koran was kicked, thrown to the floor and withheld as punishment and that guards mocked Muslim prisoners during prayers.

The release of the new FBI documents comes in the wake of an international uproar over a now-retracted story by Newsweek magazine, which reported that an internal military report had confirmed that a Koran was flushed down a toilet. The retracted story has been linked by the Bush administration to deadly riots overseas.

Nearly all of the hundreds of pages of documents consist of FBI summaries of detainee interrogations, and therefore do not generally provide corroboration of the allegations. At least two detainees also conceded that they had not personally witnessed mistreatment of the Koran but had heard about incidents from other inmates, the records show.

But the records, many of which were heavily edited by the government, further underscore the widespread nature of allegations related to the Koran and Islam among detainees at Guantanamo. Red Cross investigators in 2002 and 2003 documented what they considered reliable allegations of Koran mistreatment at the facility, and some detainees have made similar allegations through their attorneys.

A Defense Department spokesman was not immediately available for comment today. Pentagon officials have said previously that detainee allegations about the Koran have not been considered credible, although authorities have launched an internal review in the wake of the Newsweek controversy.

Amrit Singh, an ACLU attorney, said in a press release that "the United States' own documents show that it has known of numerous allegations of Koran desecration for a significant period of time."

"The failure to address these allegations in a timely manner raises grave questions regarding the extent to which such desecration was authorized by high-ranking U.S. officials in the first place," Singh said.

The new documents include other allegations of questionable treatment at Guantanamo, including two reports of beatings by guards and a report that a female guard told a prisoner she was menstruating and then "wiped blood from her body on his face and head."

The latter incident, which would be considered highly offensive to a Muslim man, is similar to a claim made by Erik Saar, a former Army translator at Guantanamo who has written a book about mistreatment of detainees there. The government has said two female interrogators have been reprimanded, including one for smearing fake menstrual blood on a captive.

Following the reports of Koran mistreatment by the Red Cross and others, the Pentagon issued rules in January 2003 governing the handling of the book and forbidding its placement on the floor, near a toilet or in other "dirty/wet areas."

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Seshmeister
05-26-2005, 11:41 PM
Muslims need to get a fucking grip. They're worse than Americans about flags with their worries about inanimate shit. They seem to get more excited about a book of superstitions than people getting tortured.

Hocus Pocis bullshit.

Cheers!

:gulp:

Mr Grimsdale
05-27-2005, 03:27 AM
Inquiry finds Koran 'mishandling' (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4585281.stm)
The US military says it has identified five incidents in which the Koran was mishandled by American personnel at the Guantanamo Bay prison camp.
But the jail commander said they had found no credible evidence that the book had been flushed down a toilet.

The denial follows similar allegations against US guards in a 2002 document made public on Wednesday, in which an FBI agent quoted an inmate.

Newsweek also made the claim, which the magazine was forced to retract.

The Newsweek report sparked protests across the Muslim world, and was blamed for riots in Afghanistan that killed at least 15 people.

The magazine withdrew its story, after saying it could no longer corroborate the report.

The White House rounded on the magazine, saying its report had done "lasting damage" to the US image in the Muslim world.

Deliberate and accidental

Brig Gen Jay Hood said he had found that the Koran had been mishandled on five occasions since late 2001.

Four cases involved guards and one was by an interrogator. The incidents appeared to be deliberate and accidental, he said.

Brig Gen Hood said those involved had not violated the rules they were working to at the time.

The inmate who made the original allegation about the Koran being flushed down the toilet had retracted it, he said.

A Pentagon spokesman characterised the incidents as mainly inadvertent handling of the Muslim holy book.

More than 500 people are being held at Guantanamo Bay, the US naval base on Cuba, suspected of links to the al-Qaeda network.

Some have been detained for more than three years, but have not been charged.

Mr Grimsdale
05-27-2005, 03:30 AM
Originally posted by Seshmeister
Muslims need to get a fucking grip. They're worse than Americans about flags with their worries about inanimate shit. They seem to get more excited about a book of superstitions than people getting tortured.

Come down to London and dare you to say that outside Finsbury Park mosque on a Friday!

It'll be like a Benny Hill chase, Except the nurses will be guys with beards and wearing combats.

FORD
05-27-2005, 03:40 AM
Originally posted by Mr Grimsdale
Come down to London and dare you to say that outside Finsbury Park mosque on a Friday!

It'll be like a Benny Hill chase, Except the nurses will be guys with beards and wearing combats.

http://letterman.iscool.com/august/8-9c.jpg
Well, that's when you bring on Finsbury Park's favorite sons and have them sing a spirited version of "Allah Save The Queen"

Mr Grimsdale
05-27-2005, 03:45 AM
HA! C'est classiqué.