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Terry
06-18-2005, 09:04 PM
Saw the new Batman flick today. A definite improvement over Batman Forever and Batman&Robin. Bale did some good work. Holmes was so-so in a role that just about anyone could have played.

My main beef with the movie was whenever the action kicked in, the director chose to utilize this annoying, overused trend in action movies as of late, where the camera jiggles and scenes last about a fraction of a second. There were several points where I literally couldn't tell what was going on in terms physical character actions because the camera shots weren't being sustained long enough. This device seems to be the norm lately. Lot of these filmakers could take a lesson from DePalma, who had long, sustained shots.

Suppose quick jumpcuts help mask some of the CGI stuff, but this same technique is also used when characters are just speaking to one another. It's all good and well, but it shouldn't be to the point where the viewer is confused. I mean, there were several fight scenes in the film where I couldn't tell who was hitting who, and it wasn't because the actors were exhibiting Bruce Lee speed, either.

Anyway, if you are a fan of Batman, think you'll dig the movie.

diamondsgirl
06-19-2005, 06:01 PM
Originally posted by Terry
Saw the new Batman flick today. A definite improvement over Batman Forever and Batman&Robin. Bale did some good work. Holmes was so-so in a role that just about anyone could have played.

My main beef with the movie was whenever the action kicked in, the director chose to utilize this annoying, overused trend in action movies as of late, where the camera jiggles and scenes last about a fraction of a second. There were several points where I literally couldn't tell what was going on in terms physical character actions because the camera shots weren't being sustained long enough. This device seems to be the norm lately. Lot of these filmakers could take a lesson from DePalma, who had long, sustained shots.

Suppose quick jumpcuts help mask some of the CGI stuff, but this same technique is also used when characters are just speaking to one another. It's all good and well, but it shouldn't be to the point where the viewer is confused. I mean, there were several fight scenes in the film where I couldn't tell who was hitting who, and it wasn't because the actors were exhibiting Bruce Lee speed, either.

Anyway, if you are a fan of Batman, think you'll dig the movie.

Any nude shots of Bale?

I'll be happy just to see him tights :)http://gay.com/images/slides/2005/bale_batman.jpg

Vinnie Velvet
06-20-2005, 09:18 AM
Originally posted by Terry
Saw the new Batman flick today. A definite improvement over Batman Forever and Batman&Robin. Bale did some good work. Holmes was so-so in a role that just about anyone could have played.

My main beef with the movie was whenever the action kicked in, the director chose to utilize this annoying, overused trend in action movies as of late, where the camera jiggles and scenes last about a fraction of a second. There were several points where I literally couldn't tell what was going on in terms physical character actions because the camera shots weren't being sustained long enough. This device seems to be the norm lately. Lot of these filmakers could take a lesson from DePalma, who had long, sustained shots.

Suppose quick jumpcuts help mask some of the CGI stuff, but this same technique is also used when characters are just speaking to one another. It's all good and well, but it shouldn't be to the point where the viewer is confused. I mean, there were several fight scenes in the film where I couldn't tell who was hitting who, and it wasn't because the actors were exhibiting Bruce Lee speed, either.

Anyway, if you are a fan of Batman, think you'll dig the movie.

I haven't seen the movie yet, but I think the problems with the action scenes are because director Christpher Nolan has no idea how to direct ACTION scenes.

Granted, he has a good sense on character development etc., but he's not an action director.

Figs
06-20-2005, 10:26 AM
Awesome film! Finally someone gets it right! One of the best characters in comic book history and it took 16 years after the first POS movie to finally get it. My wife even liked it.

academic punk
06-20-2005, 11:05 AM
far and away, the best, truest movie representation of Batman yet. Could've used a little more angle on the character as a "detective", but that's nit-picking. Then again, the presence of Katie Holmes (and her character) was a major annoyance. Always in Hollywood, some asshole has to stand up and shout, "Well, you HAVE to have a love interest."

So if you're interested in the genre, go for it. That being said, I don't think it held a candle to either of the Spidey movies.

Mr Grimsdale
06-20-2005, 02:34 PM
they've cut my fookin' courtroom scene

those miserable baaaastards!

flappo
06-20-2005, 03:24 PM
why was that ?

it was the only fucking reason i was gonna watch it

Vinnie Velvet
06-20-2005, 03:32 PM
Well, well, well....Me thinks Katie Holmes should re-think about marrying freak Tom Cruise -- look what TOM-KAT has done!


HOLMES DROPPED FROM BATMAN SEQUEL
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CHRISTIAN BALE, MICHAEL CAINE and MORGAN FREEMAN have signed to star in a second BATMAN movie, but love interest KATIE HOLMES has been dropped.

Movie bosses are thrilled with the response to BATMAN BEGINS - it took $46.9 million (GBP24.6 million) in its first weekend (17-19JUN05) at the US box office - and have snapped up the film's stars for a sequel.

Bale as Batman was the first to put pen to paper, followed by Caine as butler ALFRED and Freeman as BRUCE WAYNE'S business associate LUCIUS FOX.

But Holmes wont reprise her role as district attorney RACHEL DAWES - reportedly because WARNER BROS is angry her engagement to TOM CRUISE has stolen media attention away from the movie.

A source tells PAGESIX.COM, "Everyone is in agreement that the movie's strength is with Christian Bale, Michael Caine and Morgan Freeman."

Adding of Holmes, "She won't be in the sequel... the next romantic interest will be a much stronger actress.

"Warner is happy that people are now focusing on who'll be playing the JOKER rather than Katie and Tom."

http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/holmes%20dropped%20from%20batman%20sequel

Mr Grimsdale
06-20-2005, 03:32 PM
some of the lads at work told me they didn't see me in it when they saw it on saturday

they were probably too busy fisting each other to pay any attention

Vinnie Velvet
06-20-2005, 03:34 PM
True dat.

I will be seeing it sometime this week.

I'll watch out for Grimsey!

Warham
06-20-2005, 03:37 PM
Only $46 million last weekend?

flappo
06-20-2005, 03:38 PM
i heard that mr g ends up kiling batman and becomes grimsdale the porn avenger !

Mr Grimsdale
06-20-2005, 03:45 PM
oh yes, you'll all be sorry!

Figs
06-20-2005, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by Vinnie Velvet
HOLMES DROPPED FROM BATMAN SEQUEL


Cool, I hope they drop the idea of having any love interest.

I think Crispin Glover or Mr. G will be the Joker. Either one are sick bastards and would be a fantastic fit.

Vinnie Velvet
06-20-2005, 04:08 PM
Originally posted by Warham
Only $46 million last weekend?

Yup.

For Batman, that was very good. Warner Bros. are happy with its take. Its five day total was 71 million.

Bill Lumbergh
06-20-2005, 04:24 PM
I saw it on Friday night, and was pleasantly surprised. Makes the other 4 movies look even worse than they already were. Bale was pretty solid in the title role, and Qui Gonn :D was pretty good too. I agree with Terry on the action sequences though......hard to tell what was going on at times, especially late in the movie. The Scarecrow scared the shit outta my son!

Terry
06-20-2005, 10:08 PM
Well, Holmes really didn't bring anything to the movie. Am a little confused as to why she was cast, because it's not like she was some A-List actress who had the star power to help open a movie that cost 150 mill to make, least not when Batman Begins was filming. Sadly, am sure that perception will change because she's dating Cruise....like, suddenly she's now someone worth watching.

Actually thought the whole love-interest angle wasn't really necessary to Batman Begins anyway.

SoldMySoul4RnR
06-21-2005, 12:13 AM
Originally posted by Figs
Cool, I hope they drop the idea of having any love interest.

I think Crispin Glover or Mr. G will be the Joker. Either one are sick bastards and would be a fantastic fit.

Have you heard that Mark Hamill is a possibility for the role of the Joker, if you can believe that. He did Joker's in the cartoons. Now that could be interesting!

I saw the movie the other day, freakin' rocked!

Cathedral
06-21-2005, 02:41 AM
The kid and i are hitting the theater tomorrow for this one.
it took me a couple of days to get Madagascar off her mind, lmmfao.

Batman First, then the animated crap this weekend.

Then Herbie: Fully Loaded....who doesn't love Herbie?

Vinnie Velvet
06-21-2005, 10:41 AM
Originally posted by SoldMySoul4RnR
Have you heard that Mark Hamill is a possibility for the role of the Joker, if you can believe that. He did Joker's in the cartoons. Now that could be interesting!

I saw the movie the other day, freakin' rocked!

Wow.

Mark "Luke Skywalker" Hamill???

That'll be a big break for someone who hasn't been in a blockbuster movie since, well, 1983! :D