Joe Biden in 2008

[LoungeMachine]

WASHINGTON — Sen. Joseph Biden , D-Del., said Sunday he intends to run for president in 2008.

But Biden, who also sought the nomination in 1988, said he would give himself until the end of this year to determine if he really can raise enough money and attract enough support.

Going after the nomination "is a real possibility," he said on CBS' "Face the Nation."

"My intention, as I sit here now, is, as I've proceeded since last November as if I were going to run. I'm quite frankly going out, seeing whether I can gather the kind of support," Biden said.

Biden said he was taking his "game on the road, letting people know what I think."

He added, "If, in fact, I think that I have a clear shot at winning the nomination by this November or December, then I'm going to seek the nomination."

[FORD]

No PNAC signator (http://www.newamericancentury.org/russia-20040928.htm) will ever get my vote.

Not to mention a whore of the banking industry who talks shit about the only REAL leader this party has had in decades.

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by FORD
No PNAC signator (http://www.newamericancentury.org/russia-20040928.htm) will ever get my vote.

Not to mention a whore of the banking industry who talks shit about the only REAL leader this party has had in decades.

That was in regards to Russia, the EU, and NATO

NOT the pre 9/11 PNAC Iraq planners, right?

He's been VERY outspoken on this Fraudministration's plans/agendas


You say will never get your vote? What if Dean were to endorse him?



:cool:

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by FORD



Not to mention a whore of the banking industry who talks shit about the only REAL leader this party has had in decades.

Yes he's a whore to the banking industry, and signed the Bakruptcy Bill.

Every single candidate will be a whore to SOMEONE.

I'll take Joe over ANY OTHER CHOICE out there:cool:

[FORD]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
That was in regards to Russia, the EU, and NATO

NOT the pre 9/11 PNAC Iraq planners, right?

He's been VERY outspoken on this Fraudministration's plans/agendas


You say will never get your vote? What if Dean were to endorse him?



:cool:

PNAC is still PNAC.

There's no "good" KKK. There's no "good" Green River Killer.

Signing a PNAC document after PNAC's intentions were well documented is the equivalent of selling oven parts to Hitler in 1943.

[Guitar Shark]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
I'll take Joe over ANY OTHER CHOICE out there:cool:

I agree.

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
I agree.

2 down,

51 million to go:cool:

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by FORD
Signing a PNAC document after PNAC's intentions were well documented is the equivalent of selling oven parts to Hitler in 1943.

Are you writing copy for Durbin now:D


The oven analogy is a stretch, even for me.

Kerry
Edwards
Leiberman
Clinton
Clarke

I'll take Biden over any of them. If you think of someone better, by all means let me know.

:cool:

[BigBadBrian]

I wonder how many speeches he'll plagiarize this time out.

:gulp:

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
I wonder how many speeches he'll plagiarize this time out.

:gulp:

and how many have died over that?

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
and how many have died over that?

Weak.

You can do better.

Or maybe not.

:gulp:

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
Weak.

You can do better.



speaking of plagarizing :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


:cool:

[Guitar Shark]

BBB is that Sammy Hagar in your avatar?

[FORD]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
BBB is that Sammy Hagar in your avatar?

I believe it's Alex Lifeson of Rush. He doesn't look like this anymore.....
http://www.rusharchives.com/gear/images/alex1.jpeg

[Guitar Shark]

Thank God, I was getting worried there. The resemblance to Spammy is uncanny.

[Warham]

Talk about a guy who isn't going to get a whiff of the nomination.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
speaking of plagarizing :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


:cool:


You catch on quick, Sherlock. Your boy can expect the same.

:p

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
Thank God, I was getting worried there. The resemblance to Spammy is uncanny.

Personally, I don't LOOK at Hagar pictures so I don't' know...I'll have to take your word on that.

:gulp:

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
. Your boy can expect the same.



Maybe.

But I'd take him over ANYONE on the right anyday of the week.

Regardless, I like him alot, and would LOVE to see him debate any of "your boys"

He'd own them :cool:

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Maybe.

But I'd take him over ANYONE on the right anyday of the week.

Regardless, I like him alot, and would LOVE to see him debate any of "your boys"

He'd own them :cool:

I don't have "any boys." :rolleyes:

The only results Joe Biden will have after '08 are ones similar to algore, Al Sharpton, and Howie Dean. :D

[FORD]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine


He'd own them :cool:

The problem is that THEY own him already. MBNA. PNAC. DLC. Likud. Hair Club For Men.

Biden is a right wing stooge.

[Warham]

Hillary is going to be your nominee.

I don't know why you guys keep fighting the inevitable.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Warham
Hillary is going to be your nominee.

I don't know why guys keep fighting the inevitable.

Yep.

:gulp:

[FORD]

When Satan needs central heating......

[Guitar Shark]

I don't agree that it's inevitable, although the Republicans would relish that thought I'm sure. If she got the nomination that would be a huge mistake by the Dems.

However, the Dems aren't going to win in '08 anyway, so it's a moot point.

[Warham]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
I don't agree that it's inevitable, although the Republicans would relish that thought I'm sure. If she got the nomination that would be a huge mistake by the Dems.

However, the Dems aren't going to win in '08 anyway, so it's a moot point.

You are most wise, counselor.

[FORD]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
I don't agree that it's inevitable, although the Republicans would relish that thought I'm sure. If she got the nomination that would be a huge mistake by the Dems.

However, the Dems aren't going to win in '08 anyway, so it's a moot point.

Planning on practicing law in Canada, are you?

If we don't get these bastards out of office, even Canada won't be safe.

Only two things are neccessary for the Democrats to win in 2006 and 2008.

1) Shut down electro-fraud voting.

2) Dismantle the DLC, so they can't throw the game again with Hillary, Biden or some similar useless nominee.

Everything else will happen out of public disgust towards Junior and the BCE.

If that piece of shit is not impeached, it won't be because the public didn't want it. Which means anybody in either house of Congress who defends the Chimp may well go down with him.

[thome]

NO BITCHES to early in they're emacipation

[FORD]

I wonder if there's a V-Bulletin script that can filter out illiterate stupidity.....

[Guitar Shark]

FORD, someday I hope you can grasp the reality that the Dems lost because they failed to pick the right message and put the right candidate out there. They were out-strategized. If the Democratic leadership keep inventing excuses based on fraud, conspiracies, and the like, they will never win.

Quit with the impeachment stuff already, that's just ridiculous. Won't happen. Spend your energy on other things.

[Warham]

I'd like to see Howard Dean get the nomination.

Then, the week before election day, I'd put money on the Republican nominee winning in a landslide.

[Guitar Shark]

Howard Dean has less chance of winning than Hilary does. And that's the truth.

[Warham]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
Howard Dean has less chance of winning than Hilary does. And that's the truth.

Exactly why I want to see it happen!

[Guitar Shark]

Can the DNC chair even put his name in the hat? Or does his position preclude him from running?

[FORD]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
FORD, someday I hope you can grasp the reality that the Dems lost because they failed to pick the right message and put the right candidate out there.

That much is true. The DLC forced Judas Iskerryot on us. The primary was a joke. It was manipulated from day one.

They were out-strategized. If the Democratic leadership keep inventing excuses based on fraud, conspiracies, and the like, they will never win.

So you support Sore Lossi Rossiman questioning election results, and wasting 8 months and God knows how much Washington State Taxpayer dollars, but you categorically dismiss the possibility of any fraud in Ohio, or in the state ruled by the Chimp's brother?

Not very consistent, Counselor.

The fact is that every vote must count and every vote must be counted or NO election results can ever be trusted.

Quit with the impeachment stuff already, that's just ridiculous. Won't happen. Spend your energy on other things.

I'm sure a lot of Nixon fans said the same thing in 1972.

Granted the whore media and partisanship make it more difficult now, but the Chimp's crimes are also far worse than Nixon's, and it goes without saying that it's far worse than a blow job.

[Warham]

Bush isn't going to be impeached, and not for a more simple reason that the Republicans control both houses. It's not gonna happen. He'll be out of office before the Democrats even get a whiff of having the majority back. Hell, it'll probably be another twenty years before that happens.

[Guitar Shark]

Originally posted by FORD
So you support Sore Lossi Rossiman questioning election results, and wasting 8 months and God knows how much Washington State Taxpayer dollars, but you categorically dismiss the possibility of any fraud in Ohio, or in the state ruled by the Chimp's brother?

Not very consistent, Counselor.

The fact is that every vote must count and every vote must be counted or NO election results can ever be trusted.


Don't talk to me about inconsistent positions. You are the king of those. :)

The Washington vote tally was very different from the Ohio and Florida situations. There were two machine recounts before the final hand count. King County was the last county to submit its tallies on the hand recount, and it magically came up with enough votes for Gregoire to win, notwithstanding the fact that the elections director, to this day, cannot say that the results are accurate. Rossi didn't blame the results on some Diebold crap. He pursued the case to find out if there was any merit to the belief of many that a highly Democratic county twisted its numbers to achieve a victory for the Dems. I'm troubled by the events here and you should be too. In the case of Ohio and Florida you have absolutely NO evidence to support the view that the election would have been overturned with a hand recount. In fact, my recollection is that the evidence showed otherwise.

[Guitar Shark]

Originally posted by Warham
Bush isn't going to be impeached, and not for a more simple reason that the Republicans control both houses.

And apart from that, there's no evidence I'm aware of that he has broken any laws. A lot of us (myself included) think he exaggerated the facts to justify invading Iraq, but I don't see how it rises to the level of an outright lie.

[Warham]

As long as it's a Democrat that wins by fraud, FORD isn't going to lose sleep.

I really haven't heard FORD complain too much since 2000 about how all the major networks called the state of Florida for Al Gore an hour before the polls were even closed in that state. Alot of voters in the panhandle, which is in the central time zone, and highly conservative, probably decided not to vote after hearing that on the radio on the way to the polls. Many analysts suggest that Bush lost as many as 10,000 votes just for that reason alone.

[thome]

why should one state pull more elec college votes than the maj
of the state to the left or right of it
Thats how confused most voters are why vote .One , two, ten thousand
votes dont even matter You're vote does'nt make a diff.

[FORD]

Columns
Bob Fitrakis

Deep Throats and Stolen Votes
June 3, 2005

Ironically this week, Mark Felt, former Deputy Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, revealed that he was Watergate's "Deep Throat" and perhaps the most famous whistle-blower in our nation's history, but the embattled Deputy Director of the Hocking County Board of Elections (BOE) Sherole Eaton, Ohio's most well-known whistle-blower, may be fired for courageous attempt to expose alleged election tampering.

Eaton suggests that there are many potential Deep Throats throughout the Buckeye State: “…There are staff on other boards that would not come forward with things, and they have shared things with me. They were afraid they’d lose their jobs,” she told the Free Press.

The Executive Committee of the Hocking County Democratic Party met behind closed doors at a Logan, Ohio senior center on Thursday, May 26 to discuss the forced resignation of Eaton by the Hocking County BOE. Sources within the Democratic Party told the Free Press that a majority of the Executive Committee members were backers of Eaton and confronted Democratic BOE members Gerald Robinette and Susan Hughes who had voted to fire Eaton.

Eaton made national news during the Ohio presidential recount when she swore in an affidavit that Michael Barbarian, a Triad technician, had removed a hard drive from the BOE’s main vote tabulator and replaced it with another. She further alleged that Barbarian offered a “cheat sheet” so that the computer tally would match a small random hand count of votes. Under Ohio law, if 3% of the votes match the certified total, the remaining 97% of the votes do not have to be hand recounted.

Eaton claimed that she suspected that Barbarian was doing this in other counties as well. Triad is responsible for counting 41 of Ohio’s 88 counties.

“Bottom line is, it was against the law for him to come in there and take the hard drive off. We had not even had the official count yet and he had the hard drive off with all the votes on it,” Eaton explained.

Regina Prater, the Chairperson of the Hocking County Democratic Party, refused to comment on what went on during the Executive Committee meeting, but she did tell the Free Press, “Susan Hughes is going to see the Secretary of State and I’m going to make an appointment to try to get ahold of the Attorney General and have an appointment with him. We’ll have another meeting June the 9th and this will come to a head.”

Ohio law provides that all members of the Board of Elections are appointed by and serve at the pleasure of the Ohio Secretary of State. Tradition allows the county Democratic and Republican Parties to appoint or approve board members. Ohio Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell, the co-chair of the 2004 Bush-Cheney re-election campaign in Ohio, has argued that the bi-partisan nature of the board of elections helps prevent election fraud.

In emails obtained by the Free Press, Democrats are alleging that Hughes bypassed the Democratic Party and appointed herself to the Hocking County BOE with the acquiescence of Blackwell. Hughes seconded the motion to fire Eaton.

The Free Press has learned that a majority of Democratic Executive Board members plan to remove Robinette and Hughes as Democratic BOE members. This may well provoke a crisis and answer the question of who really controls the paying positions on the Ohio Boards of Elections.

In October, Blackwell threatened to fire any BOE officials who did not follow his often controversial and contradictory directives concerning voter registration and vote counting in Ohio. Eaton was the only BOE official to publicly blow the whistle on recount irregularities.

“I got nothing but praise during the election and after the election. The chairman of the board [Robinette] stood up at a Democratic meeting twice and said what a wonderful job the Board of Elections did through the election . . . Now he’s saying, after the Triad thing, …he told the chairman of the Democratic Party, Regina Prater, I am not a team worker and therefore I should not be in that office any longer,” Eaton said.

Eaton, a 65-year-old widow who is scheduled for brain surgery on June 6, arrived at the May 26 Hocking County meeting and was greeted by a group of supporters. She told the Free Press, “I just feel really good in that I’m surrounded by good people, and that they want our democracy back. To get the fair votes, fair election officials, fair board members, just fair people that will come out and speak the truth.”

--
Bob Fitrakis is co-editor, with Steve Rosenfeld and Harvey Wasserman, of DID GEORGE W. BUSH STEAL AMERICA'S 2004 ELECTION?, available at www.freepress.org.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
Weak.

You can do better.

Or maybe not.

:gulp:

I wonder how many more people the guy in your avatar will assault and batter!:mad: :p

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
I wonder how many more people the guy in your avatar will assault and batter!:mad: :p

If you must.............




Rush Guitarist Sues Over Florida Hotel Altercation
06.03.2005 9:11 AM EDT

Lawsuit names three sheriff's deputies for illegal arrest, excessive force.
Less than two months after accepting a plea bargain that spared him a possible 10-year prison term, Rush guitarist Alex Lifeson has gone on the offensive.

On Thursday, attorneys for Lifeson (born Alex Zivojinovich) filed a lawsuit in U.S.





District Court in Fort Myers, Florida, against three Collier County sheriff's deputies, claiming they'd used excessive force when arresting him following a New Year's Eve 2003 altercation at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel restaurant in Naples, Florida, according to a report by The Associated Press.

The suit — which seeks unspecified monetary damages for injuries, pain and suffering, mental anguish and the legal defense fees — additionally names Lifeson's son Justin and daughter-in-law Michelle as plaintiffs, while the hotel and its director of security were also listed as defendants.

Lifeson was celebrating the advent of 2004 with relatives and friends at the hotel when the incident occurred (see "Rush Guitarist Considers Suit Alleging Police Brutality"). Lifeson's son and some of his friends riled the hotel's security staff when they climbed onto a performance platform, where the house band was taking a break, the AP reports. Security called deputies in to escort Justin from the premises, and "applied illegal and unjustified force, and such force was excessive, causing plaintiff Justin severe discomfort and pain."

When Alex Lifeson tried to intervene, police broke his nose and zapped him four times with a stun gun. A Taser gun was also used to subdue Lifeson's son. The suit also alleges Michelle Zivojinovich was arrested illegally, after complaining about the excessive force used against her husband.

According to Lifeson's arrest report, the Canadian guitarist shoved a female officer down a stairwell — a charge he's denied — and spat blood in another officer's face. Lifeson, who was described in police documents as being "extremely intoxicated" and "extremely violent" at the time of the melee, spent two days in jail, on charges of aggravated battery on a law-enforcement officer, resisting arrest and disorderly intoxication.

On April 21, Lifeson and his son accepted plea agreements, calling for them to each plead to a single misdemeanor charge of resisting arrest without violence. Both were sentenced to a probationary period of one year, and ordered to pay court costs, according to the AP. A charge against Lifeson's daughter-in-law — resisting arrest without violence — was dropped on April 11.

— Chris Harris

[BenJammin]

Don't know about who the Dems will run in '08, but the arrogance of the current administration and the way the GOP swings their mighty sword of dominance will be their ultimate downfall (and it could haunt them for awhile).

Except for the most diehard right wingers, I believe that most sensible people don't like to see the country swing too far left or right.

Everything needs balance or else it spins out of control. Anyone feel a tailspin coming on?

Yin and Yang baby!

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Kerry
Edwards
Leiberman
Clinton
Clarke

I'll take Biden over any of them. If you think of someone better, by all means let me know.

Geez, is that the head of the list ??

Kerry had his chance, nuff said....

Edwards just bored me, it seemed that the Dems tried to use the Kennedy philosophy (young, good looking in a non-gay way) in matching him up with Kerry... But it seemed he had the personality of a gnat....

Leiberman, nice guy, but sorry, but he's Jewish, ain't gonna happen in today's society....

I guess I'd grudgingly accept Biden, anyone but Hillary...

I don't care how many strides women have made in politics, this country will NEVER elect a woman President, regardless of political party....

Or least in my lifetime.... ;)

And Clarke, is that GNR's Gilby Clarke ?? ;)

[thome]

Originally posted by BenJammin
Don't know about who the Dems will run in '08, but the arrogance of the current administration and the way the GOP swings their mighty sword of dominance will be their ultimate downfall (and it could haunt them for awhile).

Except for the most diehard right wingers, I believe that most sensible people don't like to see the country swing too far left or right.

Everything needs balance or else it spins out of control. Anyone feel a tailspin coming on?

Yin and Yang baby!
Being mellow is cool but every now then you have jump up and smack
the smirk off the face of the thing thats stepping on your human
rights or the worlds Ei:any dictator/butcher /ect

[BenJammin]

It's not about just being mellow, and I do support the kick-ass mentality in moderation, but this administration is paranoid, greedy, and out of control.

Note: Greedy is a term used by someone to describe others when he is not getting his share.

Yeah, the administration is making untold fortunes for people who are 'connected', but alas I have never been so, probably never will be, so I criticize. If I was in the middle of the cash flow, with pockets in the open position, I would be extoling the virtues of Bush from the tallest mountain.

[LoungeMachine]

Biden, closer to running, blasts Bush
Aug 29, 2005, 0:00 GMT




WASHINGTON, DC, United States (UPI) -- Borrowing a phrase from former Secretary of State Colin Powell, U.S. Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., offered his take Sunday on fixing the "broken pottery" in Iraq.

In an appearance on ABC`s "This Week with George Stephanopoulos" -- during which Biden said he was "closer" to declaring his candidacy for president -- he again called for the firing of Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld as the first step in fixing the "pottery." Biden sharply criticized President Bush for not considering alternative plans in Iraq.

Addressing the president directly, Biden said: "The way to fix it is, first, get rid of Rumsfeld, so that the rest of the world will have some confidence and be willing to join us in any way politically or economically. Secondly, lay out specific terms, as to how many Iraqis you have train, when you are training them ... and when you expect to be able to draw down American forces."

[FORD]

I saw that show and Biden looked like not only an idiot, but a full blown corporatist PNAC idiot.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/middle_east/02/iraq_key_maps/img/maps/iraq_oil_map485.gif

"The number one goal in Iraq is protecting US interests"

fuck you Joe :mad:

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Biden, closer to running, blasts Bush
Aug 29, 2005, 0:00 GMT




WASHINGTON, DC, United States (UPI) -- Borrowing a phrase from former Secretary of State Colin Powell, U.S. Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., offered his take Sunday on fixing the "broken pottery" in Iraq.

In an appearance on ABC`s "This Week with George Stephanopoulos" -- during which Biden said he was "closer" to declaring his candidacy for president -- he again called for the firing of Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld as the first step in fixing the "pottery." Biden sharply criticized President Bush for not considering alternative plans in Iraq.

Addressing the president directly, Biden said: "The way to fix it is, first, get rid of Rumsfeld, so that the rest of the world will have some confidence and be willing to join us in any way politically or economically. Secondly, lay out specific terms, as to how many Iraqis you have train, when you are training them ... and when you expect to be able to draw down American forces."

OK, first of all, I support firing Rumsfeld's ass...mucho pronto.

Second...I think it would be quite interesting to have Biden declare this early in the race.

It would have someone for Warham and I to insult :) and it would also lead, I feel, to other candidates declaring as well. Seriously, I probably wouldn't even insult the guy. I'm going to give him as much consideration for 2008 as everyone else.....except Hillary.

:gulp:

[jacksmar]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/frenzy/biden.htm
Joseph Biden's Plagiarism; Michael Dukakis's 'Attack Video' – 1988

Feeding Frenzy Democratic presidential candidate Joseph R. Biden Jr., a U.S. senator from Delaware, was driven from the nomination battle after delivering, without attribution, passages from a speech by British Labor party leader Neil Kinnock. A barrage of subsidiary revelations by the press also contributed to Biden's withdrawal: a serious plagiarism incident involving Biden during his law school years; the senator's boastful exaggerations of his academic record at a New Hampshire campaign event; and the discovery of other quotations in Biden's speeches pilfered from past Democratic politicians.

The controversy became two frenzies in one when it was disclosed that the campaign of Massachusetts Gov. Michael S. Dukakis had earlier secretly distributed to several news media outlets an "attack video" juxtaposing the Biden and Kinnock speeches and revealing Biden's word theft. The Dukakis campaign at first stonewalled and denied any part in the tape's distribution, but when the truth emerged Dukakis was forced to fire his campaign manager, John Sasso, and political director, Paul Tully – the two who had orchestrated the maneuver. Dukakis himself insisted he had no prior knowledge of their actions, and though wounded, his candidacy survived the incident.

Biden is a real asshole.

[Guitar Shark]

The fault for that likely lies with Biden's speechwriters, not Biden himself. In any event, it's almost 20 years ago.

Biden would be a strong candidate IMO.

[FORD]

Interesting.... I wonder if Biden was in on the sabotage of Gary Hart as well.

From Biden's pathetic ramblings yesterday on ABC, it's obvious he still hates Gary Hart almost 20 years later.

[jacksmar]

Senator Biden's Tale

Plagiarism charges are a staple of entertainment news, of literary litigation, and of academic scandal. The issue of plagiarism seemed to hit a modern high point, however, with Senator Joseph Biden's rather free use of language from a speech by British politician Neil Kinnock. Biden began a speech in Iowa by saying

I was thinking as I was coming over here, why is it that Joe Biden is the first in his family ever to go to a university? Why is it that my wife who is sitting out there in the audience is the first in her family to ever go to college? Is it because our fathers and mothers were not bright? Is it because I'm the first Biden in a thousand generations to get a college and a graduate degree that I was smarter than the rest? .... Those same people who read poetry and wrote poetry and taught me to sing verse? Is it that they didn't work very hard, my ancestors who worked in the coal mines of Northeast Pennsylvania and would come up after 12 hours and play football for four hours?

These lines were very close to those of British Labor Party politician Neil Kinnock, who had said:

Why am I the first Kinnock in a thousand generations to be able to get to University? Why is Glenys [Kinnock's wife] the first woman in her family in a thousand generations to get to university? Was it because all our predecessors were thick?. . . Those people who could sing and play and recite and write poetry? Those people who could make wonderful, beautiful things with their hands? Those people who could dream dreams, see visions? Why didn't they get it? Was it because they were weak? Those people who could work eight hours underground and then come up and play football?

Although Biden at first said that he saw nothing wrong with his use of Kinnock's phrases, the scandal forced him to withdraw from the 1988 Presidential race shortly thereafter.

Biden is part of the problem in the US. Maybe a Biden/Durbin ticket.

[bueno bob]

I would be very, very happy to cast my vote for a Warham/Ford ticket :D

[FORD]

Originally posted by bueno bob
I would be very, very happy to cast my vote for a Warham/Ford ticket :D

That would have to be a FORD/Warham ticket. I gotta be the Prez, so we can shit can all this neocon corporatist bullshit.

Once that's done, we can negotiate the rest of the platform.

[LoungeMachine]

FORD / Lounge [D] VS BBB / Warham [R] VS Nick / Shark [I]


Now THAT'S a race.



I'd be the pitbull out there slinging the mud while FORD took the high road.

Biden would make a great Sec. of State.

[Guitar Shark]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
FORD / Lounge [D] VS BBB / Warham [R] VS Nick / Shark [I]


Now THAT'S a race.



Nick and I would win that one easily. LOL

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
Nick and I would win that one easily. LOL

Nah, I see you guys siphoning off just enough votes from the Right to let us slide in WITHOUT help from the Supreme Court.

Sure would LOVE to watch the debates, though.

[me to warham] " Sir, I posted with Cathedral, and you, sir, are no Catherdral"

[FORD]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
Nick and I would win that one easily. LOL

Nope. The right wing media whores would brand you as the "evil trial lawyer" faster than you can say "John Edwards".

Then you would see "Pasture Dump Moderators For Truth" ads all over TV featuring Chelle and Vince "Hamburger Head" ;)

[FORD]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
FORD / Lounge [D] VS BBB / Warham [R] VS Nick / Shark [I]


Now THAT'S a race.



I'd be the pitbull out there slinging the mud while FORD took the high road.

Biden would make a great Sec. of State.

If I was feeling really generous, I might make Biden Ambassador to Iraq. If he likes it so damn much, let him live there.

[LoungeMachine]

You will also need a back up in case my "misdemeanor convictions" are made public.


Public Drunkeness and leaving the scene of single car accidents [where DID that tree come from???] may be an issue.


For the record, ALL felony charges were dropped.

[FORD]

If they couldn't get the Chimp on those charges, how can they get you?

[Guitar Shark]

Originally posted by FORD
Nope. The right wing media whores would brand you as the "evil trial lawyer" faster than you can say "John Edwards".

Then you would see "Pasture Dump Moderators For Truth" ads all over TV featuring Chelle and Vince "Hamburger Head" ;)

LOL!

You are forgetting about my arsenal of Osama FORD Laden pics... ;)

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
You will also need a back up in case my "misdemeanor convictions" are made public.


Public Drunkeness and leaving the scene of single car accidents [where DID that tree come from???] may be an issue.


For the record, ALL felony charges were dropped.

It wasn't a problem for Mr. and Mrs. BUSH.:D

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
LOL!

You are forgetting about my arsenal of Osama FORD Laden pics... ;)


So much for your [I]

If your ticket is going to get in bed with the party of KKKarl Rove, I may just have to leak your involvement with that certain "farm" in Enumclaw, counselor.

Got it?:cool:

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
It wasn't a problem for Mr. and Mrs. BUSH.:D


Talk to your running mate, Nick.

He's already starting with the dirty tricks :D

[Guitar Shark]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
So much for your [I]

If your ticket is going to get in bed with the party of KKKarl Rove, I may just have to leak your involvement with that certain "farm" in Enumclaw, counselor.

Got it?:cool:

Horseshit. ;)

At least I've never been found drunk lying under a golf cart on the 15th hole at Inglewood. With my pants down.

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
Horseshit. ;)

At least I've never been found drunk lying under a golf cart on the 15th hole at Inglewood. With my pants down.

It was the 16th. at Sahalee

Get your facts staright at least :(


And I wouldn't be mentioning "horseshit" if I were you, counselor.


And before you swing this thing to BBB/Warham, remember we'll be needing an Attorney General.

Don't burn any bridges.
:cool:

[Guitar Shark]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
And I wouldn't be mentioning "horseshit" if I were you, counselor.


Glad you got the pun :D

[Warham]

Am I the Dick Cheney of this ticket?

[bueno bob]

Imagine the chaos... :D

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Talk to your running mate, Nick.

He's already starting with the dirty tricks :D

I'm the one that told him to do it!:D

SHARK, did you slash those tires yet and bug the Dems. campaign HQ yet?

[diamondD]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
LOL!

You are forgetting about my arsenal of Osama FORD Laden pics... ;)

You're both forgetting my pictures of you 2 together. They'll feed conspiracy theories on message boards for years. ;)

[FORD]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
I'm the one that told him to do it!:D

SHARK, did you slash those tires yet and bug the Dems. campaign HQ yet?

You should give Phil ParlocKKK (http://southpaw.goodshow.net/archives/000943.html) a call. I heard that he freelances between election years when the BCE doesn't need him.