Dick Cheney in '08!!!

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  • academic punk
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    • Dec 2004
    • 4437

    Dick Cheney in '08!!!

    Actually, a well-thought out Thomas Friedman op-ed...



    Run, Dick, Run

    George Bush has a Dick Cheney problem.

    It's not the one you think: an overbearing, archconservative vice president imposing his will and ideas on a less-seasoned president.

    No, George Bush has a different V.P. problem. It is the fact that his vice president has made clear that he is not running for president after Mr. Bush's term expires in 2008. So Mr. Bush has no heir apparent. And that explains, in part, why his second term is drifting aimlessly, disconnected from the problems facing the country.

    "If President Bush had a vice president, or someone who was clearly designated as heir apparent to his administration, [the president] would have a more immediate incentive to widen his political base, to offer policies that would appeal more to the center," argued Don Baer, a former senior adviser to President Clinton. But if one looks at the sorts of policies that Mr. Bush has chosen, or not chosen, for his second term, it suggests that Mr. Bush "is not thinking of the bigger implications" for three years down the road, Mr. Baer added.

    For instance, the spending and tax cutting by the Bush team is ridiculously out of control. It will be a miracle if there is no market-induced implosion in the economy or the housing market in the next three years. But you can bet the farm there will have to be a huge correction after 2008 to get taxes and spending back in line. If Mr. Bush had a V.P. who was clearly anointed to succeed him, and whose success would be viewed as part of Mr. Bush's own legacy, it is hard to believe the president wouldn't be interested in a more sane fiscal policy. One thing for sure, his vice president would be.

    Instead, Mr. Bush seems to be governing as though he were on a permanent campaign - much like Bill Clinton did. But Bill Clinton was on a permanent presidential campaign. Mr. Bush seems to be governing as if he were on a permanent primary campaign against John McCain in South Carolina.

    So far, the second Bush term, to the extent that it has any discernible agenda, seems to be to cater to the far-right wing of his party - period. It's been urgent midnight meetings about Terri Schiavo and barely a daylight session about energy.

    With gasoline prices soaring, and the biggest beneficiaries being the very Arab dictatorships who are tacitly sponsoring the terrorists killing Americans in Iraq, it is blindingly obvious that our country needs a comprehensive strategy for reducing our energy consumption and developing alternative fuel systems. The president has utterly failed in this regard.

    To travel around America today is to find a country also deeply concerned about education, competition, health care and pensions. It is a country worried about how its kids are going to find jobs, retire and take care of elderly parents. But instead of focusing on a new New Deal to address the insecurities of the age of globalization, the president set off on his second term to take apart the old New Deal, trying to privatize Social Security, only feeding people's anxiety. It won't fly.

    Yes, Mr. Bush has laid down a bold proposal for also fixing Social Security, but by not putting that front and center, it has gotten lost behind his private accounts obsession, which is not the country's priority. A president with a V.P. running behind him never would have let that happen.

    Mr. Bush would also not be taking the head-in-sand positions he has in opposition to stem cell research, climate change, population control and evolution - positions from which centrist Republicans are now distancing themselves. Just last week, the Senate's top Republican energy-bill negotiator, Senator Pete Domenici, split from Mr. Bush and indicated that he believes the science is clear - climate change is occurring - and we need to do something about it.

    If Mr. Bush's hope is to make the Republican Party into a permanent majority party and sustain his legacy, he would have picked a handful of significant proposals to widen the party's circle - especially with the Democrats so clearly out of ideas. But instead of widening and broadening, by focusing on getting things accomplished that would benefit the vast middle of the country, Mr. Bush is catering to right-wing fetishes.

    If this is how he intends to use his political capital, that's his business. But if Mr. Bush had a vice president with an eye on 2008, I have to believe he or she would be saying to the president right now: "Hey boss. What are you doing? Where are you going? How am I going to get elected running on this dog's breakfast of antiscience, head-in-the-sand policies?"
  • Warham
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    • Mar 2004
    • 14589

    #2
    I want to see a clean slate set in three years.

    My initial favorite is George Allen, but I'm sure he's going to run.

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    • LoungeMachine
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Jul 2004
      • 32555

      #3
      Originally posted by Warham
      I want to see a clean slate set in three years.

      My initial favorite is George Allen, but I'm sure he's going to run.
      Allen?????????

      Dumber than a bag of hammers

      He makes the Chimp look downright brilliant


      Cheney will run, with Jeb as VP

      bet the house
      Originally posted by Kristy
      Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
      Originally posted by cadaverdog
      I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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      • Warham
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        • Mar 2004
        • 14589

        #4
        Please!

        Like you anything about George Allen, besides the fact that he has an (R) next to his name.

        Cheney has said since before '00 that he was never going to run for President.

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        • academic punk
          Full Member Status

          • Dec 2004
          • 4437

          #5
          All smart politicians keep thier mouthsw shut on their political/presidential aspirations. that way when the time comes, the song and dance is "The PEOPLE want me to do it, they DEMAND it. I'll do it....FOR THEM."

          That bieng said, Cheney ain't gonna run. He's satisfied his political ambitions by securing some sweet deals for Halliburton until 2056.

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          • LoungeMachine
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Jul 2004
            • 32555

            #6
            Originally posted by Warham
            Please!

            Like you anything about George Allen, besides the fact that he has an (R) next to his name.

            Cheney has said since before '00 that he was never going to run for President.

            I know he's a RACIST ASSHOLE



            February 02, 2005
            George Allen and the noose
            It looks like George Allen is trying to clean up his image on race before a possible presidential run:

            Senator George Allen, a Virginia Republican accused in the past of insensitivity on race issues, introduced a bill on Tuesday to apologize officially for the Senate's role in blocking antilynching legislation through decades of killings across the South.

            ...In his 2000 campaign to unseat Senator Charles S. Robb, Democrats and civil rights groups accused Mr. Allen of racial callousness for having displayed a noose in his law office and a Confederate flag in his home.

            Mr. Allen described those as parts of collections of flags and Western memorabilia. "I had all sort of Western stuff in my office," he said, characterizing what others called a noose as "more of a lasso." He said, "It has nothing to do with lynching."

            "More of a lasso"? Here's how the Richmond Times Dispatch originally reported it in 2000:

            U.S. Senate candidate George Allen wears his conservative heart on the sleeve of his cowboy shirt and makes no bones about his commitment to law and order.

            Visitors to his old law office near downtown Charlottesville used to see a grim and graphic reminder of his view of criminals.

            Dangling from a ficus tree in the corner was a noose, a reminder that the Republican politician saw some justification in frontier justice.

            And here's how Allen's own campaign manager described it in a Washington Post story during the campaign:

            Christopher J. LaCivita, Allen's campaign manager, said the noose was one item in a collection of cowboy memorabilia that Allen displayed in his Charlottesville law office in the early 1990s.

            Far from being a racially charged symbol, the noose was an emblem of Allen's tough stance on law-and-order issues, LaCivita said.

            This defense was echoed by Allen himself according to a Virginian-Pilot report in 2000:

            The noose on a tree outside his law office, he has said, symbolized his belief in strong punishment for violent criminals and was not meant to have racial overtones.
            And according to the Richmond Times Dispatch, when Allen was asked about the noose again in September 2004 when he first introduced the bill, a spokesman still did not dispute what it was:

            When Allen was asked after his news conference about the Confederate flag, he said he no longer displays it, and that he is a flag collector. Later, an Allen spokesman said the noose was part of an "Old West," law-and-order motif for Allen's former law office, and it had nothing to do with racial issues.
            Lasso, noose, what's the difference? I can't believe Allen thinks people are this stupid.




            AND WE SHOULD ALL BELIEVE DICKLESS CHENEY, BECAUSE HE ALWAYS SPEAKS THE TRUTH
            Originally posted by Kristy
            Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
            Originally posted by cadaverdog
            I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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            • Warham
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Mar 2004
              • 14589

              #7
              Allen has a noose hanging in his office and people automatically assume it's a racist symbol?

              Maybe he just has a large collection of Lone Ranger episodes at home.

              Jesus Christ, can we get any more PC in this country?

              I assume people were disturbed by the Dukes of Hazzard in the late 70's because the General Lee had a big confederate flag painted on top. Then again, maybe it was forgiven since the show took place in Georgia...

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              • LoungeMachine
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Jul 2004
                • 32555

                #8
                Originally posted by academic punk
                That bieng said, Cheney ain't gonna run. He's satisfied his political ambitions by securing some sweet deals for Halliburton until 2056.

                Let's not forget how Dickless got on the ticket in 2000 to begin with.

                They needed a running mate for the Chimp. Someone to ACTUALLY CARRY OUT the PNAC agenda.

                Poppy asked Dicky Boy to make a list, and recommend someone.

                Dicky couldnt find anyone they could trust to watch monkey boy, AND carry out the Iraq Invasion.

                So Dickless just chose himself. Now of course, the Constitution delcares that the Presidential candidate, and the Vice Presidential candidate cannot come from the same state. Now Dicky had his primary residence in TEXAS, a TEXAS Drivers License, VOTED in Texas , and for all intents and purposes LIVED in Texas.

                But he still had a home in Wyoming, luckily.............





                But it's all a moot point, because WARPIG knows everything, and luckily can tell the future
                Originally posted by Kristy
                Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                Originally posted by cadaverdog
                I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                • Warham
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                  • Mar 2004
                  • 14589

                  #9
                  Talk about kook conspiracies...

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                  • LoungeMachine
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 32555

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Warham
                    Allen has a noose hanging in his office and people automatically assume it's a racist symbol?

                    Maybe he just has a large collection of Lone Ranger episodes at home.

                    Jesus Christ, can we get any more PC in this country?

                    You truly are the epitome of right-wing apologists

                    You should be on the KKKarl Rove Spin Team
                    Originally posted by Kristy
                    Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                    Originally posted by cadaverdog
                    I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                    • Warham
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                      • Mar 2004
                      • 14589

                      #11
                      Thanks for the compliment!

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                      • LoungeMachine
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                        • Jul 2004
                        • 32555

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Warham
                        Talk about kook conspiracies...
                        Gee, if I google it for you, then you'll believe it
                        Originally posted by Kristy
                        Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                        Originally posted by cadaverdog
                        I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                        • Warham
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 14589

                          #13
                          You don't even have to go that far. FORD is right here for references...

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                          • FORD
                            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                            • Jan 2004
                            • 58759

                            #14
                            You don't believe that it's illegal for the Chimp and the DICK to both be from Tex-ass? :confused:
                            Eat Us And Smile

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                            "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                            • LoungeMachine
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 32555

                              #15
                              Originally posted by FORD
                              You don't believe that it's illegal for the Chimp and the DICK to both be from Tex-ass? :confused:
                              Not until Rush or Sean tell him it's okay to believe it
                              Originally posted by Kristy
                              Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                              Originally posted by cadaverdog
                              I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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