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ELVIS
03-09-2004, 06:00 PM
Mar 8, 2004

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WASHINGTON - The head of a civil rights and legal services advocacy group wants Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry (news - web sites) to apologize for saying he wouldn't be upset if he could be known as the second black president.


"John Kerry is not a black man — he is a privileged white man who has no idea what it is in this country to be a poor white in this country, let alone a black man," said Paula Diane Harris, founder of the Andrew Young National Center for Social Change.


Last week, Kerry told the American Urban Radio Network: "President Clinton (news - web sites) was often known as the first black president. I wouldn't be upset if I could earn the right to be the second."


Kerry's spokesman Chad Clanton said: "This was intended as a light-natured remark about President Clinton's strong legacy with African Americans It is a legacy that John Kerry would like to build upon if elected president. John Kerry has a record of fighting for civil rights and as president he will continue this fight."


Harris also criticized civil rights leaders who "sit back and ignore these types of comments, a practice that further insults African Americans."


"It seems that all these leaders care about is their personal agendas in how a 'John Kerry' will keep up their personal causes," she said.


The Andrew Young National Center for Social Change, based in Harrisburg, Pa., provides legal services to the poor.



:rolleyes::elvis::rolleyes:

John Ashcroft
03-09-2004, 08:46 PM
Kerry's such an ass. I'm happy he's getting the Democrat nod. I think he just may be easier to beat than Dean would've been.

FORD
03-09-2004, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by John Ashcroft
Kerry's such an ass. I'm happy he's getting the Democrat nod. I think he just may be easier to beat than Dean would've been.

Uh, DUUUUUHHHHHHHH! :rolleyes:

Even I hadn't heard about this one. Now in standard waffling IsKerryot fashion, if Judas is the "black president" today, will he be the Hispanic president tomorrow and then the Lakota president on Friday?

Then Saturdays he could always be the Jewish president. At least there's some genetic reality to that one. :rolleyes:

Seshmeister
03-09-2004, 08:53 PM
The US system means that it is impossible for even an average candidate to win these days.

Who here could survive the scrutiny?

Who would want to?

The only person that can possibly become a president is a prick...

Don't get me wrong it's the same in most western ''democracys' but the funding and length of the US system makes it even worse.

Cheers!

:gulp:

ELVIS
03-09-2004, 08:54 PM
Strange having FORD as a conservative...;)

FORD
03-09-2004, 09:02 PM
Originally posted by ELVIS
Strange having FORD as a conservative...;)

I'm not a conservative. That's what you don't seem to understand. These worthless fucks like Junior and Judas are neither liberal nor conservative. They are fascists, and they're serving a fascist agenda.

About the only thing Kerry might do right, if elected, is Supreme Court nominations and possibly slow the damage to the environment done by the BCE - assuming his corporate donors don't pay him NOT to .

Aside from that, he'll be as committed to fascist imperialism and corporate consolidation as Junior. Any true conservative should be as appalled as any true liberal.

John Ashcroft
03-09-2004, 09:05 PM
Heh heh heh... And this has nothing to do with supposed "corporate" ties. He's just a scumbag, through and through.

I think I've mentioned at least a few times in the past that although I considered Dean a little flaky, I admired his conviction to his cause (a socialist cause that is, and therefore I'd have to see him defeated, but I digress...) I believe Dean would've lost because the American public has shifted away from endorsing government intervention in daily life. Social programs have done nothing but prolong the problems they sought to remedy. Americans have realized this. But I enjoy the honest debate. This may come as a shock to you, but I don't think capitalism unkempt is the best plan for society. I believe alot of our leaders have done a wonderful job of stoking capitalism at every opportunity while ensuring the fruits of business is shared by as many citizens as possible. After all, our poor are rich by most the world's standards. We've got to be doing something right. But I think your party has taken it a bit to far. They've used social conscience as a campaign gimmick, utilizing tired old class-warfare tactics simply to prolong their reign as power brokers in American government (and not to mend social ailments). It's called "divide and conquer". And I truly think the American public is on to it. Well, at least the last several elections have given me that impression...

When your party quits serving itself over the public it supposedly represents, it may gain national prominence again. But you've got a bunch of house cleaning to do before this will happen.

Seshmeister
03-09-2004, 09:07 PM
I don't agree with a lot of FORDs post but he isn't in this peculiar 'Politics s a team sport' thing that seems prevelant here. I blame the primary system whereby people think of themselves as 'democrat' or 'republican' as opposed to 'person getting fucked by whoever either way...'

If one of the players in my football team commits a foul I scream his innocence from the sidelines even when I know he's guilty but I have never felt that way about politicians,

Fuck them.

It's a case of less bad rather than good...

Cheers!

:gulp:

ELVIS
03-09-2004, 09:16 PM
There is a definate distinction between the way an honest american democrat and an honest republican thinks...

Maybe it's devine intervention.. I don't know...

Seshmeister
03-09-2004, 09:43 PM
God loves focus groups?

John Ashcroft
03-09-2004, 10:03 PM
Nah, if you think that the debating around this place is simply "team sports", you're not paying close enough attention. (Although I'll give you we all post articles to invoke reaction out of the other side. It's all in a bit of fun...)

Satan
03-09-2004, 11:25 PM
Yes, you mortals are all following my plan almost perfectly.... ;)

Viking
03-09-2004, 11:33 PM
Heeheeheehahahahahahahaha.......:D :D :D :D :D *WHEEEE!*

Wayne L.
03-10-2004, 08:04 AM
John Kerry will be the first president of the US if elected in November to destroy the Democratic Party from the inside more so than Clinton with few survivors.

FORD
03-10-2004, 09:37 AM
Originally posted by Wayne L.
John Kerry will be the first president of the US if elected in November to destroy the Democratic Party from the inside more so than Clinton with few survivors.

Damn, Wayne's new medication must be working. He's starting to make sense!

Technically, it's not Kerry himself destroying the party from the inside, but the corporatist fascists of the DLC - neocons in "Democrat" suits. Kerry's just their willing pawn.

John Ashcroft
03-10-2004, 09:41 AM
So how'd Pelosi get the minority leader gig?

FORD
03-10-2004, 10:10 AM
Originally posted by John Ashcroft
So how'd Pelosi get the minority leader gig?

Dickless Gephardt did such a shitty job, they had to pick somebody else. And Pelosi's not as liberal as you seem to think. Hell, her kid hangs out with the BCE, for God's sake. She and Daschle did the (lack of ) response to Junior's 70 minute string of lies in January and neither of them were doing much responding, just more gutless ass kissing.

ELVIS
03-10-2004, 11:22 AM
Do you think Kerry is comfortable in this pic ??

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John Ashcroft
03-10-2004, 11:30 AM
That pic's great Elvis! You can see in his face he's like "icky". Oh well, he'll just have to buy new shoes. After all, a multimillionaire can't have dirt on his shoes...

And Ford, who should be minority leaders in your opinion? (And don't say "any Republican". I'm talking reality here... Which democrat?)

BigBadBrian
03-10-2004, 12:46 PM
Originally posted by ELVIS
Do you think Kerry is comfortable in this pic ??

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Caption this.

FORD
03-10-2004, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by John Ashcroft

And Ford, who should be minority leaders in your opinion? (And don't say "any Republican". I'm talking reality here... Which democrat?)

Robert Byrd for the Senate and Dennis Kucinich for the House should be the majority leaders :D

John Ashcroft
03-10-2004, 04:16 PM
A Klansman and a Commie... I'm glad you put the smiley, otherwise I'd really be worried. ;)

ELVIS
03-10-2004, 04:23 PM
Be worried!