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LoungeMachine
07-23-2005, 11:48 AM
Web site hails Jewish rock 'n' rollers


By NARA SCHOENBERG
Knight Ridder Newspapers
7/23/2005

This has been a heady year for the Jews of rock 'n' roll.
After three fans announced their intention to launch a Web site called the Jewish Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, the already well-established Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland sued for trademark infringement.

Suddenly, a bevy of world-class lawyers was fighting over . . . the right to tell the stories of Gene Simmons, Michael Bolton and four-fifths of the J. Geils Band.

Then, a few weeks ago, the legal clouds lifted sufficiently to allow the three fans - New Yorker writer Jeffrey Goldberg, Washington Post reporter David Segal and radio executive Allen Goldberg (no relation to Jeffrey) - to launch their diplomatically renamed site, Jewsrock.org.

So now, the world has a place to go if it wants to find out whether Paula Abdul is Jewish, how Alan "Moondog" Freed helped set rock "n' roll in motion, who Nudie Cohn was and why David Lee Roth is a hero to his people.

In honor of the occasion, we asked Jeffrey Goldberg about the Web site, the Jewish contribution to rock 'n' roll, and his own experience at the hands of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

The following is an edited transcript:

Q. Our people gave the world Albert Einstein and Anne Frank; what, if anything, do we have to gain by exploring our connection to Gene Simmons, Barry Manilow and Kenny G?

A. What do we have to gain? What do we have to gain by disseminating knowledge? It's knowledge about an interesting and unexplored intersection in American life, the intersection between Jews and popular culture.

Q. So you're conceding the point? I mean, it's fair to say you're looking beyond the A-list to find most of your Jewish rockers?

A. What do you mean?

Q. Gene Simmons, Barry Manilow, Kenny G ...

A. But we're not just talking about just Gene Simmons, Kenny G; we're talking about Lou Reed and Joey Ramone and Bob Dylan. We're talking about Leiber and Stoller. We're talking about a whole range of people.

We recognize Kenny G for what he is; we put him in the category called "Bad for the Jews." But if you look at our list, there are some pretty amazing people. Malcolm McLaren, who basically invented punk rock.

I don't mean to sound defensive about the Jewish contribution to rock, but Bob Dylan is the single most influential popular music writer of the last half century. And he's a person who's deeply, if fitfully, involved in his Jewishness.

And don't knock Neil Diamond, OK? I know you were thinking about it, but don't do it. Just don't do it. 'Cause it - 'cause I think he's a musical genius.

Q. Whoa. OK.

A. I love Neil Diamond.

Q. Anything in particular?

A. Uh, the entire canon. Put down, "the entire canon." Not "The Jazz Singer" that much, to tell you the truth. Not my favorite.

Q. You mentioned Bob Dylan - Bob Dylan is, I think, religiously best known for renouncing his Judaism.

A. Yeah, but then he came back.

Q. So it still counts?

A. It totally counts. I mean, we're not judging people and their commitment to Judaism, we're simply saying these are people who are Americans and Jews and have done something interesting in music. But the fact is, he came back. And that's what counts.

And, in all seriousness, I'm surprised at the depth of the American Jewish contribution to rock 'n' roll, not only in terms of performers, but in terms of the people who define the canon in some way. I mean, Leiber and Stoller, two Jewish boys from Los Angeles, wrote Elvis Presley's biggest songs. That's kind of interesting and it's not well-known.

Q. Paula Abdul is listed on your Web site. Are both her parents Jewish?

A. To the best of my knowledge. We are not applying strict rabbinical standards to the judgment of who's Jewish. I mean, if somebody wants to be Jewish, if some rock 'n' roll star says, "Hey, I feel Jewish," we'll put 'em in there under the category of "Feels Jewish."

Q. Who's your favorite Jewish rock 'n' roller?

A. If I say Dylan, is that just too obvious? It has to be Dylan, (Lou) Reed, Joey Ramone and David Lee Roth, only because he went into rock 'n' roll to disprove Jewish stereotypes. I think he's said - semi-coherently - on many occasions that that's why he wanted to become a rock star.

LoungeMachine
07-23-2005, 11:51 AM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine



and David Lee Roth, only because he went into rock 'n' roll to disprove Jewish stereotypes. I think he's said - semi-coherently - on many occasions that that's why he wanted to become a rock star.


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franksters
07-23-2005, 03:07 PM
jews are everywhere, they create what we consume... from cinema, museum, music industry, house development, food business...

I guess they are the american culture...;)

DLR7884
07-23-2005, 03:09 PM
What's the address for the website?

DLR7884
I can't find anything on google.

franksters
07-23-2005, 03:42 PM
I don't know but i've seen it before there is another thread about that somewhere in here.

franksters
07-23-2005, 03:47 PM
here it is!

http://www.jewsrock.org/

FORD
07-23-2005, 03:56 PM
Malcolm McLaren is Jewish?? :confused:

RuzDNailz
07-23-2005, 04:00 PM
Oh, I hope Jewhoo is up and running again soon. That gives a huge list of actors and singers. Nice to know I ain't gonna be celebrating
those holidays alone. :cool:

academic punk
07-23-2005, 04:22 PM
Charlie Watts is among the Chosen.

LoungeMachine
07-23-2005, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by academic punk
Charlie Watts is among the Chosen.

You mean Charles Jacob Wattstein?

Mazol tov ;)

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FORD
07-23-2005, 07:50 PM
Originally posted by academic punk
Charlie Watts is among the Chosen.

Funny, he looks so Italian in this picture....
http://www.pitt.edu/~bon/clones3.jpg

academic punk
07-23-2005, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Funny, he looks so Italian in this picture....
http://www.pitt.edu/~bon/clones3.jpg

Cool shot! I'm guessing Emotional Rescue, Annie Liebowitz (who, apparently, is also Jewish)?

academic punk
07-23-2005, 08:02 PM
Hey, wait, on second glance doesn't it look like Keith is giving a little more affection than perhaps Charlie's wife would want him to?

LoungeMachine
07-23-2005, 08:04 PM
Originally posted by academic punk
Hey, wait, on second glance doesn't it look like Keith is giving a little more affection than perhaps Charlie's wife would want him to?

For all Keith knows, it's Anita Pallenberg he's groping there:D

academic punk
07-23-2005, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
For all Keith knows, it's Anita Pallenberg he's groping there:D

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!

FORD
07-23-2005, 08:38 PM
Pallenberg? Hmmmm.... was she Jewish?

Marianne Faithful apparently was.

academic punk
07-23-2005, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Pallenberg? Hmmmm.... was she Jewish?



I doubt it. She was the one who got Brian - and then Keith - into all that Nazi crap.

Besides, she was too fuckin' hot anyway...

DLR7884
07-23-2005, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Pallenberg? Hmmmm.... was she Jewish?

Marianne Faithful apparently was.

You took the quiz too?

DLR7884
LOL.

thome
07-23-2005, 08:45 PM
Kinda silly isnt it ,,,How about Junkies in rock shouldn't they have
recognition .There own hall of fame .Its a religion.

FORK all this PPP....CCCC....STUFFF....Jeezus..... oops sorry.

FORD
07-23-2005, 08:47 PM
And out come the anti-semites......

Good time for me to go on a beer run.

thome
07-23-2005, 08:55 PM
Dude you are the wrongest fud ive ever seen .and ive seen alot.

Jews arent the issue here its people like you .

You are bent, broke, dik .There is nothing like that in there.

Opps sorry.. is not half as non funny as the crap you spew in here.

DLR7884
07-23-2005, 09:13 PM
Originally posted by thome
Dude you are the wrongest fud ive ever seen .and ive seen alot.

Jews arent the issue here its people like you .

You are bent, broke, dik .There is nothing like that in there.

Opps sorry.. is not half as non funny as the crap you spew in here.

?

DLR7884
?

thome
07-23-2005, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by DLR7884
?

DLR7884
?


Yes you rang?

LoungeMachine
07-23-2005, 09:49 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Malcolm McLaren is Jewish?? :confused:

Forgot his hit?

"Buffalo Girls Go 'Round Blatt's Deli"

:D

LoungeMachine
07-23-2005, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by FORD
And out come the anti-semites......

Good time for me to go on a beer run.

Hope you came across some Drop Top Amber on a day like this:D


There's a W'05 IPA that's also spectacular, despite the awful name;)


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LoungeMachine
07-23-2005, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by thome
Dude you are the wrongest fud ive ever seen .and ive seen alot.

Jews arent the issue here its people like you .

You are bent, broke, dik .There is nothing like that in there.

Opps sorry.. is not half as non funny as the crap you spew in here.

Do you really need to FUCK up every thread you see?

Isn't there somewhere else you can go and be the resident moron?:rolleyes:


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thome
07-23-2005, 11:36 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Do you really need to FUCK up every thread you see?

Isn't there somewhere else you can go and be the resident moron?:rolleyes:


:cool:

I think theres just to much happy back slappin in the world.

jus to many ..atta boy.. award shows an such.Its ok just ,whatever.

Hall of fame my ass i dont care .lets have a hall of fame of hall
of famers.

I love almost everyone people jus crack me up!!:D