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BigBadBrian
07-27-2005, 05:45 PM
WASHINGTON - The Senate voted Tuesday to allow U.S. military bases to continue to host Boy Scout events, responding to lawsuits and a federal court ruling aimed at severing relationships between the government and the youth group.

The vote came one day after four adult Scout leaders were killed on the opening day of the National Scout Jamboree at the Army's Fort A.P. Hill in Bowling Green, Va., when a tent pole apparently struck a power line.

In a 98-0 vote, the Senate approved the provision continuing the hosting of Boy Scout events as part of massive bill setting Defense Department policy for next year. After the vote, Senate leaders decided to put off further debate and votes on the overall bill, probably until fall when Congress returns from a monthlong break.

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., a former Boy Scout who sponsored the Senate provision, said it is necessary to push back on a spate of lawsuits to limit Boy Scout activities on government property. The provision adopted Tuesday says Boy Scouts should be treated the same as other national youth organizations

Frist said it "removes any doubt that federal agencies may welcome Scouts to hold meetings, go camping on federal property or hold scouting events and public forums" on government property.

In 1999, the ACLU of Illinois filed a lawsuit claiming the Pentagon's sponsorship of such Boy Scout activities violates the First Amendment. The ACLU argues that direct government sponsorship of the group amounts to discrimination.

Civil liberties advocates have assailed the Boy Scouts organization because it bans openly gay leaders and compels members to swear an oath of duty to God.

On June 22, U.S. District Judge Blanche Manning ruled in the ACLU's favor, saying the Pentagon can't spend millions of dollars to sponsor Boy Scout events. She said in an earlier ruling that the government spent between $6 million and $8 million to host the Jamboree on a military base in 1997 and 2001.

The House in November overwhelmingly passed a nonbinding resolution that recognized the Boy Scouts organization for its public service efforts and condemned legal efforts to limit government ties to the organization that has 3.2 million members.

Link (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050726/ap_on_go_co/congress_boy_scouts)

Nickdfresh
07-27-2005, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian

Civil liberties advocates have assailed the Boy Scouts organization because it bans openly gay leaders and compels members to swear an oath of duty to God.


I thought all SCOUTS were openly gay....

FORD
07-28-2005, 01:55 AM
So 4 guys get fried on opening day of Scout camp, and you take that as an endorsement from God??

LoungeMachine
07-28-2005, 02:00 AM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
I thought all SCOUTS were openly gay....

No, only their 40-50 year old, never married, "confirmed bachelors" who love to volunteer their time with these young boys

Priests and Scout Leaders :rolleyes:

Hey Jimmy, if you woke up in the woods naked and bleeding would you tell your parents?

No sir

Welcome to scouting, lets get you that "merit badge"

:cool:

Cathedral
07-28-2005, 02:10 AM
Don't miss the point here.
I was a Scout when i was a kid and it was one of the paths my father chose to prep me for the Army, lol.

This is just a way to stay buddy buddy with future soldiers in the US Armed Forces.
You'd be amazed at how many of our troops were Scouts.

It implants a seed in the kids, and if they don't grow up to be pussies ruined by Mommy, they'll be enlisting.

LoungeMachine
07-28-2005, 02:58 AM
Originally posted by Cathedral



It implants a seed in the kids, .


Poor choice of words, Cath ;) :D

Cathedral
07-28-2005, 03:11 AM
Now that i look back on it, you're damn right it was, lmmfao.

Sorry bout dat!

BigBadBrian
07-28-2005, 07:49 AM
I also wonder why the Liberals aren't whining why this was taking place on a military base named after a Confederate General.

Fort A.P. Hill. Civil War History is my second favorite period to read after WWII since I live within two hours drive of most of the major battlefields.

Why do we have military bases named after Confederate Generals when the North won the war and the Union was preserved? Food for thought. I would have thought the ACLU and other liberal organizations would be all over that. Give 'em time, I suppose.

:gulp:

Warham
07-28-2005, 02:58 PM
The ACLU, also known as the Al-Queda Civil Liberties Union, needs to be terminated...immediately.

Nickdfresh
07-28-2005, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
I also wonder why the Liberals aren't whining why this was taking place on a military base named after a Confederate General.

Fort A.P. Hill. Civil War History is my second favorite period to read after WWII since I live within two hours drive of most of the major battlefields.

Why do we have military bases named after Confederate Generals when the North won the war and the Union was preserved? Food for thought. I would have thought the ACLU and other liberal organizations would be all over that. Give 'em time, I suppose.

:gulp:

Why does the Army name helicopters after Native American tribes when we won the war(s) and virtually committed genocide against them?

Who the fuck knows?

BigBadBrian
07-28-2005, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by Warham
The ACLU, also known as the Al-Queda Civil Liberties Union, needs to be terminated...immediately.

Agreed.

:gulp: