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BigBadBrian
08-07-2005, 08:10 PM
Man Kills Another in Dispute Over War, Press and Police Call It a First

By E&P Staff

Published: August 06, 2005 6:30 PM ET

NEW YORK It was bound to happen sooner or later, and in what newspapers in Kentucky are calling a first, one American has killed another in a dispute over the Iraq war.

It happened at Floyd County flea market on Thursday, when two friends, who were firearms vendors there, drew guns after quarreling about the war. Douglas Moore, 65, of Martin, who backs the war, shot and killed Harold Wayne Smith, 56, of Manchester, who opposed it, according to investigators.

Moore was released without being charged after he convinced police he had acted in self-defense. A grand jury may yet hear evidence in the case.

Commonwealth's Attorney Brent Turner said the episode might mark the first death in the U.S. due to a dispute over the war.

One witness, Sam Hamman of Prestonsburg, told the Lexington Herald-Leader, "Harold was talking about the 14 people that were killed in Iraq the other day and Doug said that just as many people were killed on the highways here.”

This quickly escalated into an argument, then to a scuffle, and finally both men drew pistols outside a snack shed. The dead man was apparently just a little slower in firing. Witnesses said he stood for about five seconds before toppling on the walkway.

In a telephone interview wit the Lexington paper yesterday, Moore said police had told him not to discuss his feelings about the Iraq war.

"I'm sorry this has happened," Moore, a retired railroad worker, said "but then what's done can't be undone." Moore told the Lexington reporter he thinks Smith and his family knew him well enough "to know what my thoughts are, his family does, because me and Harold was friends. That's all I'll say."

The daughter of the dead man said the two men were friends and had discussed Iraq before. She said her father "had different opinions than everybody. He felt it was wrong that all of these young people were losing their lives over what was going on. It was just a political disagreement, like a whole lot of people have."

Link (http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001010741)

BigBadBrian
08-07-2005, 08:13 PM
At least the pro-war guy got off the first shot. No surprise, huh?

:gulp:

FORD
08-07-2005, 08:13 PM
Great..... now we have Busheep going nuts and shooting people for speaking the truth, along with the Secret Service threatening the mothers of dead soldiers.

What country is this again? :confused:

Phil theStalker
08-07-2005, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
Man Kills Another in Dispute Over War, Press and Police Call It a First

By E&P Staff

Published: August 06, 2005 6:30 PM ET

"Harold was talking about the 14 people that were killed in Iraq the other day...Link (http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001010741)
This is splitting our country apart. English, Scots, Irish, Welsh, who will be your allies in Iraq when the U.S. people are in civil war?


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DLR'sCock
08-07-2005, 09:04 PM
So this guy murders someone and it's no big whoop?

DLR'sCock
08-07-2005, 09:05 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
At least the pro-war guy got off the first shot. No surprise, huh?

:gulp:

Yes, the desire to kill and the intent to kill go hand in hand.

BigBadBrian
08-07-2005, 09:08 PM
Originally posted by DLR'sCock
Yes, the desire to kill and the intent to kill go hand in hand.

Uh huh.

Both men were holding weapons.

I guess the anti-war guy had the "intent" also, huh?

:elvis:

Nickdfresh
08-07-2005, 09:08 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
At least the pro-war guy got off the first shot. No surprise, huh?

:gulp:

Yeah, usually it's through his head though...

academic punk
08-07-2005, 09:08 PM
Does this mean there will be a postponement in my receiving the gun I ordered from them?

LoungeMachine
08-07-2005, 09:24 PM
Guns don't kill people....

Neo-Con Shitbags with a hair-trigger kill people.

I hope he fries, slowly. Maybe 2 or 3 switch throws.

Self Defense my ass....

LoungeMachine
08-07-2005, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by academic punk
Does this mean there will be a postponement in my receiving the gun I ordered from them?

Gun Dealers at a "Flea-Market"

What a country.

"How much for the Art-Deco teapot......and the Uzi?"

FORD
08-07-2005, 11:28 PM
This is a textbook case of why the "gun show loophole" needs to be closed. Though it's usually the psychopaths buying at gunshows, not murdering their business partners.

sh18
08-08-2005, 12:41 AM
Gun show loophole? Oh yes, I forgot the guns fire themselves. Come up with something new talking point!

FORD
08-08-2005, 12:54 AM
Yes, gun show loophole.

So psychos like this fucking idiot can't sell guns to other psychos like Eric Harris and Dylan Kliebold.

Licensed gun dealers and 5 day background checks are reasonable enough for anyone. If you "need" a gun sooner than that, you were probably going to do something stupid with it anyway.

sh18
08-08-2005, 01:15 AM
Umm, Ok. Can't beat that logic. LOL