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BigBadBrian
08-12-2005, 11:18 AM
Cindy Sheehan's Crowd

New York Sun Editorial
August 11, 2005

It's easy to see why Cindy Sheehan, the 48-year-old mother of a soldier killed in Iraq, has become the new face of the anti-war movement, featured in a New York Times editorial on Tuesday and a Maureen Dowd column yesterday morning. Camped out in Crawford, Texas, near President Bush's ranch, she's a more sympathetic face than a lot of the alternatives. But as sad as Ms. Sheehan's loss is - and we don't belittle it - she has put herself in league with some extreme groups and individuals.

For starters, Ms. Sheehan has been posting on Michael Moore's Web site, writing, "We have such a strong coalition of groups. GSFP, Code Pink, Veterans for Peace, Military Families Speak Out and the Crawford Peace House. I talked with John Conyers today and he wrote a letter to George signed by about 18 other Congress members to request that he meet with me. I also talked to Maxine Waters tonight and she is probably going to be here tomorrow."

It turns out that the Crawford Peace House Web site includes a photo depicting the entire state of Israel as "Palestine," and it carries a link to a report that when Prime Minister Sharon visited Crawford, the "peace house" greeted him with an "800-foot-long banner containing all of the United Nations resolutions that Israel is in violation of." The Crawford Peace House site also features a photo of Eugene Bird, who has suggested that Israeli intelligence was responsible for the abuses at Abu Ghraib.

Code Pink, Veterans for Peace, and Military Families Speak Out all have representatives on the steering committee of United for Peace and Justice, an anti-war umbrella group. They share that distinction with the Communist Party USA. UPJ organized the march during the 2004 Republican Convention in New York, at which a New York Sun poll of 253 of the protesters found that fully 67% of those surveyed said they agreed with the statement "Iraqi attacks on American troops occupying Iraq are legitimate resistance." In other words, Ms. Sheehan's "coalition" includes a lot of people who think the persons who killed her son were justified.

United for Peace is nonetheless flogging Ms. Sheehan's story in the run-up to its big weekend of "civil disobedience" and "direct action" next month in Washington. That protest is timed to coincide with the meetings of the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank, so that the people who were throwing rocks at Starbucks in Seattle to protest free trade back during the Clinton administration can now make common cause with the anti-war movement.

This story, among others, is being followed on the new blog of The New York Sun, Itshinesforall.com, where our Ira Stoll noted that news of Mr. Conyers and Ms. Waters's involvement with Ms. Sheehan fits with the rest of the picture. Mr. Conyers was the host of a Democratic "hearing" in June on the Iraq war that his fellow Democrat, Rep. Jerrold Nadler, protested was a forum for "people motivated by anti-Semitic or anti-Israel animus." Ms. Waters is still best known for having endorsed the conspiracy theory that the CIA caused the crack epidemic in American cities. The whole crowd gains more from its association with Ms. Sheehan than she gains from her association with it.

Link (http://www.nysun.com/article/18436)

NightProwler
08-12-2005, 11:22 AM
So, are you saying you side with bush and his crowd?

BigBadBrian
08-12-2005, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by NightProwler
So, are you saying you side with bush and his crowd?

It's not that cut and dry in this issue.

I don't exactly approve of the way the war has been going, that's for sure.

Why Bush hasn't shitcanned Rummy I do not know.

The loss of this woman's son is tragic, I think we can all agree on that.

However, we are over in Iraq....like it or not.

Pulling out unconditionally at once is not an option like this woman wants.

Her past meeting with Bush is suspect (evidently she changed her story on the details of how it went).

Also, he's the President. She's gone on record saying that if she's granted another meeting with him she's basically going to read him the riot act. She's out of her mind.

Also, read the article again and look at the FAR leftist organizations she's now associated with. Yuck, Double Yuck Yuck!!!

This woman has allowed her grief to take her off the deep end.

:gulp:

FORD
08-12-2005, 11:40 AM
The "New York Sun" is nothing but neocon tabloid horseshit. It makes the NY Post look like responsible journalism by comparison. And that ain't easy.

NightProwler
08-12-2005, 11:41 AM
"Pulling out unconditionally at once is not an option like this woman wants."

Why not? dumbya invaded iraq unconditionally.


And speaking of crowds...how about bush's pals in saudi arabia (most of the 9/11 hijackers were saudi citizens), the bin laden family (why let his relatives flee the USA so soon after 9/11) and his pals in PNAC (The Project for a New American Century)...you know the ones who wanted another pearl harbor type tragedy to befall the USA so they could whip the public up to support their imperialistic invasion of the middle east?

BigBadBrian
08-12-2005, 11:51 AM
Originally posted by FORD
The "New York Sun" is nothing but neocon tabloid horseshit. It makes the NY Post look like responsible journalism by comparison. And that ain't easy.

Yeah, it's easy to shoot the messenger without responding to the message.

Typical of FORD.

:gulp:

BigBadBrian
08-12-2005, 11:52 AM
Originally posted by NightProwler
"Pulling out unconditionally at once is not an option like this woman wants."

Why not? dumbya invaded iraq unconditionally.


And speaking of crowds...how about bush's pals in saudi arabia (most of the 9/11 hijackers were saudi citizens), the bin laden family (why let his relatives flee the USA so soon after 9/11) and his pals in PNAC (The Project for a New American Century)...you know the ones who wanted another pearl harbor type tragedy to befall the USA so they could whip the public up to support their imperialistic invasion of the middle east?

Oh Geez, do you have a Tin Foil Beanie under your desk? PUT IT ON!!

Dip shit.

:gulp:

NightProwler
08-12-2005, 12:02 PM
Instead of bigbadbrian perhaps "bitchboybrian" would be more appropriate.

"tin foil beanie"?

That might hurt their feelings when you use that on your playgroudn chums, here it only makes you look more foolish.

http://www.newamericancentury.org/

Educate yourself then get back to me.

NightProwler
08-12-2005, 12:03 PM
Instead of bigbadbrian perhaps "bitchboybrian" would be more appropriate.

"tin foil beanie"?

That might hurt their feelings when you use that on your playground chums, here it only makes you look more foolish.

http://www.newamericancentury.org/

Educate yourself then get back to me.

FORD
08-12-2005, 12:58 PM
I've been telling these Busheep about PNAC for nearly 4 years, and some of them are still in denial. The fact that they post articles from a "newspaper" owned and operated by PNAC/Likudist treasonists proves it.

NightProwler
08-12-2005, 12:59 PM
It would have been nice if someone would have talked about PNAC before dumbya and his cronies got into The White House.

BigBadBrian
08-12-2005, 02:12 PM
I had this NightProwler weenie so frustrasted with the Tin Foil Beanie comment that he hit the post button twice. See above. :D :D

:killer: :killer: :killer:

academic punk
08-12-2005, 03:26 PM
This is just gonna get uglier, isn't it?

BigBadBrian
08-12-2005, 03:38 PM
Originally posted by academic punk
This is just gonna get uglier, isn't it?

Not on my part. I can understand why certain people have a clown for an avatar.

:gulp:

NightProwler
08-13-2005, 02:49 AM
bitchboybrian appears delusional...I corrected a spelling error ("playgroudn"), which is why it's on there twice.

Nice try kid.