US Soldier in Iraq Zaps Media on Today Show

[Warham]

Today Show: US Soldier in Iraq Zaps Media - "I'd be Depressed Too if I got my News from the Newspapers"

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Posted by Mark Finkelstein on August 17, 2005 - 07:37.

When the Today show sprung a surprise this morning -- an unannounced trip to Iraq by Matt Lauer -- one US soldier had a little surprise of his own for Today and the media at large.

Lauer interviewed a group of soldiers at Camp Liberty in Baghdad, and at one point asked about the state of morale. After getting two responses to the effect that morale was good, Lauer had this to say:

"Don't get me wrong, I think you're probably telling the truth, but there might be a lot of people at home wondering how that could be possible with the conditions you're facing and with the insurgent attacks you're facing. " (video available: Windows Media and Real Media)

If Lauer was the advocate for the anti-war case, he then made the cardinal mistake that no advocate should make: asking a question to which you don't know the answer.

Asked Lauer: "What would you say to those people who are doubtful that morale could be that high?"

Captain Sherman Powell nailed Lauer, the MSM and the anti-war crowd with this beauty:

"Well sir, I'd tell you, if I got my news from the newspapers also I'd be pretty depressed as well!"

Bada-bing!

Powell went on to add that, while acknowledging the difficulties the media face in getting out into the field in Iraq,

"For those of us who have actually had a chance to get out and meet the Iraqi Army and Iraqi police and go on patrols with them, we are very satisfied with the way things are going here and we are confident that if we are allowed to finish the job we started we'll be very proud of it and our country will be proud of us for doing it!"

Finkelstein has degrees from Cornell University and Harvard Law School.He lives in Ithaca, NY where he hosts "Right Angle," a local political talk show. Finkelstein specializes in exposing liberal bias at NBC's Today Show.

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[Warham]

Video: http://newsbusters.org/media/TodaySoldier.wmv

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Warham


"For those of us who have actually had a chance to get out and meet the Iraqi Army and Iraqi police and go on patrols with them, we are very satisfied with the way things are going here and we are confident that if we are allowed to finish the job we started we'll be very proud of it and our country will be proud of us for doing it!"



God Bless America!!!

:gun:

[Warham]

Sherman Powell is a true patriot!

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by Warham
Sherman Powell is a true patriot!
Warham and BBB, yoo guys are da only t2wo left here squabbling f4or Bush and da war..

yoo're a couple aff newbies t2o dis..

i've heard and seen tit all bef4ore wit Vietnam..

and yoo fakking quote fakking capt. and not a fakking grunt..

fakkers

living in yer fakking dream werlds..


:spank:

[Warham]

If I could understand what you are typing, Phil, I'd answer you.

[Jesterstar]

It's not like a encounter like that would be set up by the news media???

Warham your a fucking dipshit you beleive everything your spoon fed. OWNED>

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by Warham
If I could understand what you are typing, Phil, I'd answer you.
Tit's French..

yoo r totally isolaTITed..


:spank:

[BigBadBrian]

:gun:

[Warham]

Originally posted by Jesterstar
It's not like a encounter like that would be set up by the news media???

Warham your a fucking dipshit you beleive everything your spoon fed. OWNED>

You're out of your league here, Satan worshipper.

Get back to defending yourself in Non.

I hear AP's got the license to own you.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Jesterstar
It's not like a encounter like that would be set up by the news media???

Warham your a fucking dipshit you beleive everything your spoon fed. OWNED>

Jesterstar.

I'm only going to tell you this once.

Get the fuck out of my forum with your nonsense before I make you look so silly even your homo buddies start calling you SISSY-BOY.

Got that?

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by Jesterstar
It's not like a encounter like that would be set up by the news media???

Warham your a fucking dipshit you beleive everything your spoon fed. OWNED>
Aff tit weern't sooooooooooo fakking sad i'd still be laffing at da fact they're basing their opinions on a capt.'s quote.


his rank titself SCREAMS "set up," just like yoo so intelligenlty say, Jesterstar..

:spank:

[Warham]

"intelligenlty"

Quite...

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by Warham
"intelligenlty"

Quite...
wen they R proved t2o bee IGNORATN da haughyt allwasy distratc da subjetc wit mminor detali mminutia..

yoo'er filht..

ha!

mmy neighbor just hit a rokc and broek hsi mowre..

haah!


:spank:

[Hardrock69]

"IGNORATN"???

Lak yoo???

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Phil theStalker


and yoo fakking quote fakking capt. and not a fakking grunt..



Captain not a grunt, huh?

Captains and 1st Lieutenants are fighting and leading the way, numbnuts.

Google up "Captain Brian Chontosh"

Do it.

[Warham]

Phil opens his yapper and just looks foolish in the process.

[FORD]

Originally posted by Warham


If Lauer was the advocate for the anti-war case, he then made the cardinal mistake that no advocate should make: asking a question to which you don't know the answer.



Hah! Matt Lauer is a 10th degree Busheep shill. He kisses so much Chimp ass that he has to buy Chap-Stick in 5 gallon buckets.

[jacksmar]

You’re wasting your time BBB.

Pointing out that since the Sept. 11 terrorist attack 46 million people have been liberated from tyranny and dictatorship. Thousands of terrorists have been captured or killed, including two-thirds of al Qaeda's senior operatives and 43 of Iraq's 55 most-wanted.

Over 400,000 kids have up-to-date immunizations.

School attendance is up 80% from levels before the war.

Over 1,500 schools have been renovated and rid of the weapons stored there so education can occur.

The port of Uhm Qasar was renovated so grain can be off-loaded from ships faster.

The country had its first 2 billion barrel export of oil in August.

Over 4.5 million people have clean drinking water for the first time ever in Iraq.

The country now receives 2 times the electrical power it did before the war.

100% of the hospitals are open and fully staffed, compared to 35% before the war.

Elections are taking place in every major city, and city councils are in place.

Sewer and water lines are installed in every major city.

Over 60,000 police are patrolling the streets.

Over 100,000 Iraqi civil defense police are securing the country.

Over 80,000 Iraqi soldiers are patrolling the streets side by side with US soldiers.

Over 400,000 people have telephones for the first time ever.

Students are taught field sanitation and hand washing techniques to prevent the spread of germs.

An interim constitution has been signed.

Girls are allowed to attend school.

Those of us that believe our president and military and our allies are worthwhile and deserving of our respect have fallen for the same commie-lib diatribe they’re more comfortable with. The twaddle and prattling from the commie-libs and the rest of the erudite US populace deserve all the credit.

[FORD]

Yet paradoxically, women actually had more rights under Saddam Hussein. And at least he never shut off the power to reward Halliburton with no bid contracts.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by FORD
Yet paradoxically, women actually had more rights under Saddam Hussein. And at least he never shut off the power to reward Halliburton with no bid contracts.

Geez FORD, where do you come up with this crap, I swear?

:rolleyes:

[jacksmar]

And for the "What have you done for me lately" connie-libs:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/13/AR2005081300530.html

Iraqi Chemical Stash Uncovered
Post-Invasion Cache Could Have Been For Use in Weapons

By Ellen Knickmeyer
Washington Post Foreign Service
Sunday, August 14, 2005; Page A18

BAGHDAD, Aug. 13 -- U.S. troops raiding a warehouse in the northern city of Mosul uncovered a suspected chemical weapons factory containing 1,500 gallons of chemicals believed destined for attacks on U.S. and Iraqi forces and civilians, military officials said Saturday.

Ford, instead of throwing off Haliburton and Enron statments like you know what you're talking about, see if Ken the Liar Ley and someone he could personally relate to, Slick Willlary played golf together back in 1995.

"But the Clinton Defense Department, rather than switch from Halliburton to Dyncorp, elected to award a separate, sole-source contract to Halliburton/Brown & Root to continue its work in the Balkans."
http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york070903.asp

[Jesterstar]

It's funny that people use statistics that are from government based companies designed to manipulate the ignorant population into thinking things are better than they are.

What makes me laugh even more is that people thought that the war in Iraq was ever needed.

JESTERSTAR HEARDING SHEEP FOR EVER AND EVER.

Phil they aren't like us. It will be funny to watch them scramble when they put their real plan into action.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Jesterstar


Phil they aren't like us.

No.

We're all intelligent.

:gulp:

[jacksmar]

You make it too easy Jesterstar.

http://mosley.arach.net.au/pub/focus/iraq/default.asp#wmd

Did the US have the right to take action against Iraq
Yes they did.
Recalling that its resolution 678 (1990) authorized Member States to use all
necessary means to uphold and implement its resolution 660 (1990) of 2 August
1990 and all relevant resolutions subsequent to resolution 660 (1990) and to restore
international peace and security in the area,


Remember this?
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/politics/inauguration/20050120-1655-inauguralrdp.html

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by jacksmar
100% of the hospitals are open and fully staffed, compared to 35% before the war.
Glaring stupidity in yoor propaganda, jack..

without a war mmaybe they didn't need so mmuch MEDICAL ATTENTION!

i'll bet da MORGUES business is UP, t2oo..

IT IS!

yoo left dat FACT outta yer pack aff lies t2oo, fakker..

Geez, i just saw a major media qoute dat only 7,000 Iraqi were ready t2o "take ova"..
(i'll git yoo a link, doubter)

and, where did they git all aff these educaTITed, graduTITed, licensed docs all aff da SUDDEN? huh

huh

propaganda, lies..

i'm sick of hearing LIES!

i suppose yoo got yer stats from sum goode "coalition" source, huh, goode buddy..

yeh, i know where yoo got yer lies, er, "stats"..

look, yer and order taker and yoo like eesy answers t2o things..

have a goode short life in yer wars..

bye.


:spank:

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by jacksmar
You make it too easy Jesterstar.

http://mosley.arach.net.au/pub/focus/iraq/default.asp#wmd

Did the US have the right to take action against Iraq
Yes they did.
Recalling that its resolution 678 (1990) authorized Member States to use all
necessary means to uphold and implement its resolution 660 (1990) of 2 August
1990 and all relevant resolutions subsequent to resolution 660 (1990) and to restore
international peace and security in the area,


Remember this?
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/politics/inauguration/20050120-1655-inauguralrdp.html
Yer a fakking jerk..

i don't rememba da UN giving Bush and Blair and da "coalition aff da killing" da green lite..

post dat green lite, smart ass, pls:D


:spank:

[Jesterstar]

Originally posted by jacksmar
You make it too easy Jesterstar.

http://mosley.arach.net.au/pub/focus/iraq/default.asp#wmd

Did the US have the right to take action against Iraq
Yes they did.
Recalling that its resolution 678 (1990) authorized Member States to use all
necessary means to uphold and implement its resolution 660 (1990) of 2 August
1990 and all relevant resolutions subsequent to resolution 660 (1990) and to restore
international peace and security in the area,


Remember this?
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/politics/inauguration/20050120-1655-inauguralrdp.html

Dude what we are doing is what Hitler did back in WW2 it's not differant. We are taking over a country and rebuilding it in our image just like Hitler. In fact you Boy Bush's family is very tight with the Nazi's. Do some real research. Now he's going to take on Iran and enduce a world conflict. that the world has never seen.

Just so you know. Statistics and those american Resolutions mean nothing exspecially since we completely went around the UN and backed up none of the claims made against them.

this was all a plot to raise tensions in the middle east so that Bush's globalist masters could initiate the their master plan.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Phil theStalker
Yer a fakking jerk..

i don't rememba da UN giving Bush and Blair and da "coalition aff da killing" da green lite..

post dat green lite, smart ass, pls:D


:spank:

The UN?

The UN?

We don't need no stinking UN.

:cool:

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
The UN?

The UN?

We don't need no stinking UN.

:cool:
Aff yoo'd like t2o keep yer ass outta WWIII, yoo doo..

yep, "coalition aff da stupid"..


:spank:

[Jesterstar]

Originally posted by Phil theStalker
Yer a fakking jerk..

i don't rememba da UN giving Bush and Blair and da "coalition aff da killing" da green lite..

post dat green lite, smart ass, pls:D


:spank:

he can't because he knows nothing of the history behind what is going on. He's a typical ignorant scared fucking blind sheep american.

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by Jesterstar
Dude what we are doing is what Hitler did back in WW2 it's not differant. We are taking over a country and rebuilding it in our image just like Hitler. In fact you Boy Bush's family is very tight with the Nazi's. Do some real research. Now he's going to take on Iran and enduce a world conflict. that the world has never seen.

Just so you know. Statistics and those american Resolutions mean nothing exspecially since we completely went around the UN and backed up none of the claims made against them.

this was all a plot to raise tensions in the middle east so that Bush's globalist masters could initiate the their master plan.
PROFITS.

The cost of war..


:spank:

[Jesterstar]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
The UN?

The UN?

We don't need no stinking UN.

:cool:

I'm going to take a leap here and say that you enjoy the music of Toby Keith.

[Warham]

Originally posted by Phil theStalker
Glaring stupidity in yoor propaganda, jack..

without a war mmaybe they didn't need so mmuch MEDICAL ATTENTION!

i'll bet da MORGUES business is UP, t2oo..



They didn't need morgues when Hussein was running Iraq. Hussein's police just threw the hundreds of thousands he had killed over the last thirty years in unmarked graves.

[Phil theStalker]

Yeh, i rememba da Bush family made a lot aff PROFITS in WWII on da Nazi side aff da war..

true dat

DO YA NEED A FAKKING LINK, JACKSMAR?

Same o', same 'o.


:spank:

[Warham]

Originally posted by Jesterstar
he can't because he knows nothing of the history behind what is going on. He's a typical ignorant scared fucking blind sheep american.

Quit reading David Icke books and come back to reality.

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by Warham
They didn't need morgues when Hussein was running Iraq. Hussein's police just threw the hundreds of thousands he had killed over the last thirty years in unmarked graves.
oH, is DAT wot dis war is aboot?

da reason f4or da war keeps changing wit yoo LIARS!

huh, Mr. U.S. taxpayer, where did Saddam GIT his "chemicals" t2o doo his dirty werk fer them, huh, huh, huh????

mmaybe da U.S.A. and da U.S.A. taxpayers sheeple..

i guess dat's not an important question and yoo ova looked dat, Mr. Taxpaya..


:spank:

[Warham]

What about the casualties when he was running the country, Phil?

I guess that doesn't matter to you tin foil guys.

[Jesterstar]

Originally posted by Warham
Quit reading David Icke books and come back to reality.

Never read one of his books in my life. Wake the fuck up dude. Put all your hope and prayers in a man who's family is known to practice black magic and deep in the illuminatti's luciferian traditions.

[Warham]

I put my hopes and prayers with Jesus Christ, not with George W. Bush.

The shit you spout is the same tripe that David Icke and host of other 4th rate authors who never could get laid write about.

[Jesterstar]

Originally posted by Warham
I put my hopes and prayers with Jesus Christ, not with George W. Bush.

The shit you spout is the same tripe that David Icke and host of other 4th rate authors who never could get laid write about.

Dude do some fucking research.

Infowars.com

That's a site that is run by a christian. Maybe he can talk some sense into your brainwashed mind.

What I spit is actual FACT BACKED UP BY DOCUMENTATION AND THE GOVERNMENTS OWN DOCUMENTS!!!!!!!!!

What you got??? Stuff the bush administration released???

[Warham]

There are radical Christians who believe in alot of bullshit. He's one of them. He probably believes in the rapture and other non-Biblical bs.

[Jesterstar]

Originally posted by Warham
There are radical Christians who believe in alot of bullshit. He's one of them. He probably believes in the rapture and other non-Biblical bs.

The Rapture is non biblical??? Dude it's comming to be right fucking now. They perdicted this.

[Warham]

Yep, the Rapture isn't biblical. It's an invention right out the 1800's.

[Jesterstar]

Originally posted by Warham
Yep, the Rapture isn't biblical. It's an invention right out the 1800's.

Then why is it happening now???

Please site a resource of this.

[Warham]

Here's a good quick overview of why it's not biblical:

http://www.lookup.org/Pretrib.htm

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by Warham
What about the casualties when he was running the country, Phil?

I guess that doesn't matter to you tin foil guys.
Well, let's seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee..

Da U.S. is in Iraq f4or OIL. [SEE SENTENCE BELOW]

800,000 RWANDANS CAN'T BE WRONG!

Did ya eva hear dis tune, Warham?

"Don't Cry F4or Me Rwanda
(You Have No Oil)"

where's yer morals when tit comes t2o 800,000 killed in Rwanda, BAYBEE????

yeh

yeh, i thought so

da propaganda's coming outta yer ears..

go find anotha message board..

yer blind faith in your good "morals" is gitting BORING..


:spank:

[Warham]

This is about Iraq.

If you want to talk about Rwanda, talk to the Clinton administration.

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by Warham
This is about Iraq.

If you want to talk about Rwanda, talk to the Clinton administration.
Tit's NOT o1ne fakking guy..

Tit's congress and corporations..

Aff theer wuz MONEY in Rwanda then da corporations would'a made Clinton and congress go int2o there..

SEE-----> $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ M-O-N-E-Y

Not------> creating democracy outta nothin'!

Not------> "oh, we're outing a dictator-tater" chrispy aff nuked

Not------> "umm...oh, umm tit's f4or 9/11"

Not------> "tit's da economy, stupido"

Not------> "society in da West changing to where London police gun down an innocent man and then LIE aboot tit"

listen

listen

tit's later than you..

[Warham]

I know you guys love to stray off topic, but let's try to keep this one clean from now on. If you want to talk about the Bible or about Rwanda, bring it up in a new thread.

[Warham]

Let's get back to Captain Powell, who Phil said was just an desk jockey, not a 'grunt'.

You do realize, Phil, that many officers were once enlisted, and then received a commission?

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by Warham
Let's get back to Captain Powell, who Phil said was just an desk jockey, not a 'grunt'.

You do realize, Phil, that many officers were once enlisted, and then received a commission?
Why do you want t2o talk aboot dis guy?

Why, why, why?


:spank:

[Warham]

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that the topic's about him, Phil?

[Phil theStalker]

Oh, dat's so nice..


:spank:

[DLR'sCock]

There are troops over there that will say morale is high and there are others that say it is low. I know guys who have been there and back, quite a few, and according to them it is true insanity over there. We are not even getting close to the truth. My one buddy, he's a guy that inspects cars for bombs, luckily he's still here, he's had a few close calls.


Another guy I ran into two weeks ago, he just came back from Iraq, and he found out that he has cancer now, and he's young.

Let's just send BBB, Warham, and Big Train over there already and call it a day.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by jacksmar
You’re wasting your time BBB.

Pointing out that since the Sept. 11 terrorist attack 46 million people have been liberated from tyranny and dictatorship. Thousands of terrorists have been captured or killed, including two-thirds of al Qaeda's senior operatives and 43 of Iraq's 55 most-wanted.

Over 400,000 kids have up-to-date immunizations.

School attendance is up 80% from levels before the war.

Over 1,500 schools have been renovated and rid of the weapons stored there so education can occur.

The port of Uhm Qasar was renovated so grain can be off-loaded from ships faster.

The country had its first 2 billion barrel export of oil in August.

Over 4.5 million people have clean drinking water for the first time ever in Iraq.

The country now receives 2 times the electrical power it did before the war.

100% of the hospitals are open and fully staffed, compared to 35% before the war.

Elections are taking place in every major city, and city councils are in place.

Sewer and water lines are installed in every major city.

Over 60,000 police are patrolling the streets.

Over 100,000 Iraqi civil defense police are securing the country.

Over 80,000 Iraqi soldiers are patrolling the streets side by side with US soldiers.

Over 400,000 people have telephones for the first time ever.

Students are taught field sanitation and hand washing techniques to prevent the spread of germs.

An interim constitution has been signed.

Girls are allowed to attend school.

Those of us that believe our president and military and our allies are worthwhile and deserving of our respect have fallen for the same commie-lib diatribe they’re more comfortable with. The twaddle and prattling from the commie-libs and the rest of the erudite US populace deserve all the credit.

You forgot to mention the numerous suicide bombings targeting the IRAQ "security forces" and also the frustration many US troops are expressing while training them.:)

[Jesterstar]

Originally posted by DLR'sCock
There are troops over there that will say morale is high and there are others that say it is low. I know guys who have been there and back, quite a few, and according to them it is true insanity over there. We are not even getting close to the truth. My one buddy, he's a guy that inspects cars for bombs, luckily he's still here, he's had a few close calls.


Another guy I ran into two weeks ago, he just came back from Iraq, and he found out that he has cancer now, and he's young.

Let's just send BBB, Warham, and Big Train over there already and call it a day.

Dude your friend with cancer got it from the depleted uranium that is hidden in the bombs that they are dropping on iraqi citazines.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by DLR'sCock
There are troops over there that will say morale is high and there are others that say it is low. I know guys who have been there and back, quite a few, and according to them it is true insanity over there. We are not even getting close to the truth. My one buddy, he's a guy that inspects cars for bombs, luckily he's still here, he's had a few close calls.


Another guy I ran into two weeks ago, he just came back from Iraq, and he found out that he has cancer now, and he's young.

Let's just send BBB, Warham, and Big Train over there already and call it a day.

OK, Warham , BT, and I are on one side of our IRAQ WAR fantasy league. We get to be the coalition.

Cock, you get to choose two more pansy-ass liberals to play as the insurgents against us. Who do you choose?

We'll set up the rules once that is done.

:gulp:

[Warham]

Hehe

[jacksmar]

That’s true Nick. And Jesterstar and Phil are making good points too. The truth may not be known about this whole operation for a few years, results and the like.
I know this for fact: You guys really need to read this. Tell me what you think.
Nick, you know I don’t shrink from disagreement or debate. Doesn’t mean much on these types of forums anyway. But do tell me what you think.

http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050811/NEWS/508110457/1060/INDEX01



There's a side column op too. See what you think.

[Jesterstar]

Originally posted by jacksmar
That’s true Nick. And Jesterstar and Phil are making good points too. The truth may not be known about this whole operation for a few years, results and the like.
I know this for fact: You guys really need to read this. Tell me what you think.
Nick, you know I don’t shrink from disagreement or debate. Doesn’t mean much on these types of forums anyway. But do tell me what you think.

http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050811/NEWS/508110457/1060/INDEX01



There's a side column op too. See what you think.

The artical is a propganda peice. The paper is probably run by someone on Jeb Bush's payroll. It's a nice story and I'm sure some of it's true. But it doesn't adress the people of Iraq and the war that is tearing their homeland apart.

[jacksmar]

What am I missing Jesterstar? President Ronald Reagan confronted the Soviet and communist threat. He did it alone. America's allies didn’t take a firm position on President Reagan’s opposition and they questioned his opposition to détente and denounced his stance on arms control and trade. And, ….this is a big AND…., a solid majority of the American public were opposed to his foreign policy.

To beat these guys that showed up to through the front door you go on offense. You don’t let up. You don’t flinch.

Terrorism means the "use of violence to intimidate or subjugate". A terrorist is different but identifiable. The asshole that sent anthrax to the Senate and members of the press, the asshole snipers that shot 10 people in DC, and Saddam Hussein and his lackeys. Terrorism isn’t some useless metaphor. To beat terrorism, you kill terrorists. You don’t stop and you root the assholes out. When you take the fight to the enemies, there will be dead bodies on both sides.
You want me to believe that President Bush is some undeserving simp. Some believed that President Carter was the same and that he couldn’t land a helicopter in the desert. Well, right there President Bush has succeeded. You want me to believe that the cowed and appeasing Carter administration cares about what’s happening in Iraq currently when he didn’t have the fortitude and courage to free American hostages. The opportunity to quash terrorism on the world stage came and went under President Carter. They pulled that shit in Beruit and 300 American G.I.’s died. Well, right there President Bush has succeeded again facing a challenge, having his stance on terrorism opposed, questioned, and denounced by U.S. allies and by an overwhelming majority of the American people. That tells me Jesterstar, President Bush is on the right track. Better methods? Provide the solutions.

President Reagan spent his entire life denouncing communism. And when Libyan terrorism was responsible for the murder of 4 G.I’s in Berlin, President Reagan ordered the US Air Force to bomb Qadaffi’s palace and Qadaffi’s capital. That was a staggering commitment by President Reagan and it turned the U.S. from national humiliation and “Paper Tiger”. President Reagan did not consider the fucked up courts, the UN or the negotiation process as the proper arena to deal with state-sponsored terrorism. President Reagan didn’t play by the rules or honor accords or all the other horseshit you call President Bush to the carpet on every time there’s a fuck up. When President Reagan later went to the Soviet Union for “diplomatic relations”, they knew the guy was serious.

It’s going to take a long time to beat terrorism and President Reagan’s legacy to President Bush is easy for me to see. It’s a world-view, driven by long-term principles and goals, rather than by cynical political considerations driven by short-term convenience and petty-politicing. A “mission accomplished” will require a belief in this cause and its capabilities, steadfastness in face of domestic and international pressure and temptation, moral clarity and determination based on tradition, values and patriotism.
What did I miss? And when you reply, remember I want to know what the U.S. can do better.

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by jacksmar
What am I missing Jesterstar? President Ronald Reagan confronted the Soviet and communist threat.
Y'know jacksssssssssmar, yoo sound like o1ne aff da authors and/or editors aff da PNAC documents. Or a prof outta school fer another month until classes begin again..

Tit all depends on yer "point-aff-view."

My view is dat wot yoo're speaking aff is an old paradigm aff assumptions and dat da new view aff da werld is globalism..

Reagan wuz a U.S. puppet allowed t2o let da old paradigm Soviet Union spread int2o wot is now da homogenized, socialized, pitifized EU by Gorby who now lives in sunny HELL-A, imagine dat john lennon.. huh

Now da same model, yes "model," is under construction rite here in North America wheneva yoo read da operational names Pan American Union and utimaltely an AU or American Union spinning in da minds aff da werld bankers in harmony wit socialist blocks like da EU and a communist, socialst block domination aff slaves in da whole werld aff SE Asia and Asia led by Communist Red China..

Afrika: biological extermination (by "them")

Australia: already gone and just waiting f4or da day aff da globalists..

David Rockefeller in an address to a trialateral Commission meeting in June of 1991:

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected the promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world-government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the National autodetermination practiced in past centuries."

Surely, dave.

"National autodetermination." Surely, i know wot ya mean, BAYBEE.

Lookie here, world chattel-SLAVES: www.atlasbooks.com/marktplc/rr00717.htm#Chapter%20Excerpt [CLICK: Chapter Excerpt]


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[jacksmar]

Phil it’s a little hard for me to understand your point. I’m pretty good at “ Sigh fer un”.
Is your point President Bush is a globalist? Or that former VP Al Gore is a commie?

The world bankers and the world bank are what Al Quieda are upset with.
Known communists have been identified in The Venona Project. They too were democrats.

And what is PNAC?

[jacksmar]

Excuse the PNAC. I looked it up. I thought Bill Kristol when you stated PNAC but I wasn’t sure.

[Jesterstar]

Originally posted by jacksmar
What am I missing Jesterstar? President Ronald Reagan confronted the Soviet and communist threat. He did it alone. America's allies didn’t take a firm position on President Reagan’s opposition and they questioned his opposition to détente and denounced his stance on arms control and trade. And, ….this is a big AND…., a solid majority of the American public were opposed to his foreign policy.

To beat these guys that showed up to through the front door you go on offense. You don’t let up. You don’t flinch.

Terrorism means the "use of violence to intimidate or subjugate". A terrorist is different but identifiable. The asshole that sent anthrax to the Senate and members of the press, the asshole snipers that shot 10 people in DC, and Saddam Hussein and his lackeys. Terrorism isn’t some useless metaphor. To beat terrorism, you kill terrorists. You don’t stop and you root the assholes out. When you take the fight to the enemies, there will be dead bodies on both sides.
You want me to believe that President Bush is some undeserving simp. Some believed that President Carter was the same and that he couldn’t land a helicopter in the desert. Well, right there President Bush has succeeded. You want me to believe that the cowed and appeasing Carter administration cares about what’s happening in Iraq currently when he didn’t have the fortitude and courage to free American hostages. The opportunity to quash terrorism on the world stage came and went under President Carter. They pulled that shit in Beruit and 300 American G.I.’s died. Well, right there President Bush has succeeded again facing a challenge, having his stance on terrorism opposed, questioned, and denounced by U.S. allies and by an overwhelming majority of the American people. That tells me Jesterstar, President Bush is on the right track. Better methods? Provide the solutions.

President Reagan spent his entire life denouncing communism. And when Libyan terrorism was responsible for the murder of 4 G.I’s in Berlin, President Reagan ordered the US Air Force to bomb Qadaffi’s palace and Qadaffi’s capital. That was a staggering commitment by President Reagan and it turned the U.S. from national humiliation and “Paper Tiger”. President Reagan did not consider the fucked up courts, the UN or the negotiation process as the proper arena to deal with state-sponsored terrorism. President Reagan didn’t play by the rules or honor accords or all the other horseshit you call President Bush to the carpet on every time there’s a fuck up. When President Reagan later went to the Soviet Union for “diplomatic relations”, they knew the guy was serious.

It’s going to take a long time to beat terrorism and President Reagan’s legacy to President Bush is easy for me to see. It’s a world-view, driven by long-term principles and goals, rather than by cynical political considerations driven by short-term convenience and petty-politicing. A “mission accomplished” will require a belief in this cause and its capabilities, steadfastness in face of domestic and international pressure and temptation, moral clarity and determination based on tradition, values and patriotism.
What did I miss? And when you reply, remember I want to know what the U.S. can do better.


First off your buying the illusion that's been fed to the public for a very long time. There is no such thing as the UNITED STATES. It isn't real. There is no such thing as a american or a Patriot or any of that.

What those things are, are puppets putting on a show for you. It gets you on a side.

We are all one being dude. Thsi right and left wing bullshit is a illusion designed to confuse you. This war on terror. is a boogy man designed to scare you and get you to submit your will. Get you begging to be protected. But what you asking for wasn't something you needed to be protected from in the first place.

[academic punk]

Originally posted by Warham
You're out of your league here, Satan worshipper.

Get back to defending yourself in Non.

I hear AP's got the license to own you.

This is true.

[Warham]

Originally posted by Jesterstar
First off your buying the illusion that's been fed to the public for a very long time. There is no such thing as the UNITED STATES. It isn't real. There is no such thing as a american or a Patriot or any of that.

What those things are, are puppets putting on a show for you. It gets you on a side.

We are all one being dude. Thsi right and left wing bullshit is a illusion designed to confuse you. This war on terror. is a boogy man designed to scare you and get you to submit your will. Get you begging to be protected. But what you asking for wasn't something you needed to be protected from in the first place.

If you don't believe in America, then you won't mind moving to a third world country. Maybe you'd prefer to live in a country that doesn't have the blessings we have here? Like electricity, running water, a paycheck every week?

I think you need to stop sniffing the glue on those envelopes, mail boy.

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by Warham
If you don't believe in America, then you won't mind moving to a third world country. Maybe you'd prefer to live in a country that doesn't have the blessings we have here? Like electricity, running water, a paycheck every week?

I think you need to stop sniffing the glue on those envelopes, mail boy.
Yoo've got a pay check every week?:confused:


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[Warham]

Yes, some of us get 'spending cheddar' on a weekly basis.

[Jesterstar]

Originally posted by Warham
If you don't believe in America, then you won't mind moving to a third world country. Maybe you'd prefer to live in a country that doesn't have the blessings we have here? Like electricity, running water, a paycheck every week?

I think you need to stop sniffing the glue on those envelopes, mail boy.

Dude the blessing we have in this country are another illusion. Wake the fuck up and realize that the rug can be pulled out at anytime.

[Warham]

If this is an illusion, I'd love to see what reality is!

[Jesterstar]

Originally posted by Warham
If this is an illusion, I'd love to see what reality is!

The government Run by Secret Socioties Spoon feed us everything we have grown to need to exist. They can cut us off at anytime. And they will.

[Warham]

They can't be too secret if we know about them, eh?

[Jesterstar]

Originally posted by Warham
They can't be too secret if we know about them, eh?

Dude are you capable of understanding that the amount of knowledge about them and their agenda has taken fucking years of dangerous research from brave people some of whom lost their lives to get that information.

Your Hero Bush's family is attached to some of some of the most Horrific and satanic Luciferian groups out there.

And you support him and his agenda. what's that say about you???

[Warham]

I thought you didn't believe in the diety Satan, Jester?

[Jesterstar]

Originally posted by Warham
I thought you didn't believe in the diety Satan, Jester?

I don't..................But They do. And they serve him well.

Fuck they've even got you following his agenda. I pray that Jesus goes light on you for supporting Satan and his agenda.

[Warham]

Usually the only people who believe in this NWO shit are Christians who are looking for validation on end-times prophecy they believe in.

Why are you so vamped up about it?

[Jesterstar]

Originally posted by Warham
Usually the only people who believe in this NWO shit are Christians who are looking for validation on end-times prophecy they believe in.

Why are you so vamped up about it?

Wrong dude. How about doing some fucking research on your own.

It has nothing to do with fullfilling a proficy there are actual government documents that Prove that very thing.

WAshington DC is one big Satanic Map.

[Phil theStalker]

Wee're just nipppping at each other cuntil da next big o1ne..

then we'll mmmiss these days..


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[Warham]

Originally posted by Jesterstar
Wrong dude. How about doing some fucking research on your own.

It has nothing to do with fullfilling a proficy there are actual government documents that Prove that very thing.

WAshington DC is one big Satanic Map.

Yeah, are there are 'government documents' that say aliens met with Roosevelt in 1933.

I don't believe it.

[FORD]

Jizzy might have a point here......
http://www.stormbringer.tv/misc/gov/washington/maps/36_sat_wash_sm.jpg
.....That said, he's still HUNGRY FOR THE COCK!!!

[FORD]

http://www.cuttingedge.org/map.gif

[Jesterstar]

Hey Warham how do you spell owned???

O W N E D !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[John Ashcroft]

Heh heh heh... I see things haven't changed around here.

How's any recent election going for ya, libs?

Oh, and btw, a guy that was there e-mailed Rush about the episode. I know, I know, this is just part of the "setup", but here it is anyway:

Dear Rush,

I was one of the soldiers interviewed by Matt Lauer today. To say the at least, we were all sorely disappointed. Each of us were there to talk about specific activities that we are doing in our in our individual units here. Instead of talking to us about the topics we were scheduled to discuss -- human interest stories -- Lauer decided to engage us with the line of questioning that you highlighted on your show. We had no rehearsed comments and we were not prompted to give specific replies and in fact until getting lined up with the producer for the interview none of us had ever met the rest. The story I was there to talk about is Operation Teddy Drop. We parachute stuffed animals to Iraqi children from our helicopters as we fly other missions over Iraq. So far, we've delivered over 6,100 Teddy Troopers to the children of Iraq and we will deliver a minimum of 20,000 by the time we have completed our tour here. More information can be found at [and he gives me a website for information on this].

Respectfully,
Randy Kirgiss
Chief Warrant Officer for United States Army


Oh, and besides all of this... How've you guys been? I miss this place, but been "Mr Mom" for the last 6 months and I swear I hardly get time to take a shit! Don't get much time behind the computer anymore. But I will say Ford, you never fail to deliver dude! I loved the star over Washington! Still chuckling over that.

Heh, off topic a little here, but did you guys already discuss the James Carville focus session where he concluded that Dems simply don't have a clue? It was a doozy! No message, no platform, no coherent agenda (other than opposing all things Bush... fags!), no hope. It was pretty funny. A rare moment of truth from the world's greatest spin doctor/Clinton apologist. And yeah Ford, I remember... He's part of the PNAC too. I'll save ya the typing. Seriously, did you guys see it?

[FORD]

That "star" is the actual street grid of Washington DC, believe it or not. As is the "Mason's Compass" around the Capitol building.

I don't want to think that ALL the presidents have worshipped Satan, but unfortunately the layout of DC goes back even further than the BCE.

[John Ashcroft]

heh heh heh... I wonder if the same formula works over my ex's place.

Could you check it out?

[Warham]

So the freemasons like stars? That doesn't mean they are satanists.

[Jesterstar]

Originally posted by Warham
So the freemasons like stars? That doesn't mean they are satanists.

Since you know nothing of the masons let me clue you in on something.

When you reach the higher degree's you begin to practive luciferian religeious practices. If you are fortunate enough to be deemed worthy to be a 33rd degree mason. During a Ceramony that is attended by the likes of Bush Sr and Clinton you will be taken into a room with the highest ranking members of the Masonic brother hood and told to kiss the book of your faith. They put infront of you the Bible and the Masonic Text. If you choose the bible your masonic Jorney comes to a end. If you choose the masonic text then you will accend to the highest ranks if your deemed worth it and can handle what they dish out.

They aren't satanists...............They worship Lucifer. Satan is a boogy man created by Christians to scare kids. Lucifer is a real thing. You need to wake up.