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FORD
08-20-2005, 04:04 PM
Hypocrites and Liars

A BUZZFLASH GUEST CONTRIBUTION
by Cindy Sheehan

The media are wrong. The people who have come out to Camp Casey to help coordinate the press and events with me are not putting words in my mouth, they are taking words out of my mouth. I have been known for sometime as a person who speaks the truth and speaks it strongly. I have always called a liar a liar and a hypocrite a hypocrite. Now I am urged to use softer language to appeal to a wider audience. Why do my friends at Camp Casey think they are there? Why did such a big movement occur from such a small action on August 6, 2005?

I haven't had much time to analyze the Camp Casey phenomena. I just read that I gave 250 interviews in less than a week's time. I believe it. I would go to bed with a raw throat every night. I got pretty tired of answering some questions, like: "What do you want to say to the President?" and "Do you really think he will meet with you?" However, since my mom has been sick, I have had a chance to step back and ponder the flood gates that I opened in Crawford, Tx.

I just read an article posted today on LewRockwell.com by artist Robert Shetterly who painted my portrait. The article reminded me of something I said at the Veteran's for Peace Convention the night before I set out to Bush's ranch in my probable futile quest for the truth. This is what I said:

"I got an email the other day and it said, 'Cindy if you didn't use so much profanity ... there's people on the fence that get offended."

"And you know what I said? "You know what? You know what, god damn it? How in the world is anybody still sitting on that fence?"

"If you fall on the side that is pro-George and pro-war, you get your ass over to Iraq, and take the place of somebody who wants to come home. And if you fall on the side that is against this war and against George Bush, stand up and speak out."

This is what the Camp Casey miracle is all about. American citizens who oppose the war but never had a conduit for their disgust and dismay are dropping everything and traveling to Crawford to stand in solidarity with us who have made a commitment to sit outside of George's ranch for the duration of the miserable Texan August. If they can't come to Texas, they are attending vigils, writing letters to their elected officials and to their local newspapers; they are setting up Camp Casey branches in their hometowns; they are sending flowers, cards, letters, gifts, and donations here to us at Camp Casey. We are so grateful for all of the support, but I think pro-peace Americans are grateful for something to do, finally.

One thing I haven't noticed or become aware of though is an increased number of pro-war, pro-Bush people on the other side of the fence enlisting to go and fight George Bush's war for imperialism and insatiable greed. The pro-peace side has gotten off their apathetic butts to be warriors for peace and justice. Where are the pro-war people? Everyday at Camp Casey we have a couple of anti-peace people on the other side of the road holding up signs that remind me that "Freedom isn't Free," but I don't see them putting their money where their mouths are. I don't think they are willing to pay even a small down payment for freedom by sacrificing their own blood or the flesh of their children. I still challenge them to go to Iraq and let another soldier come home. Perhaps a soldier that is on his/her third tour of duty, or one that has been stop-lossed after serving his/her country nobly and selflessly, only to be held hostage in Iraq by power mad hypocrites who have a long history of avoiding putting their own skin in the game.

Contrary to what the main stream media thinks, I did not just fall off a pumpkin truck in Crawford, Tx. on that scorchingly hot day two weeks ago. I have been writing, speaking, testifying in front of Congressional committees, lobbying Congress, and doing interviews for over a year now. I have been pretty well known in the progressive, peace community and I had many, many supporters before I left even left California. The people who supported me did so because they know that I uncompromisingly tell the truth about this war. I have stood up and said: "My son died for NOTHING, and George Bush and his evil cabal and their reckless policies killed him. My son was sent to fight in a war that had no basis in reality and was killed for it." I have never said "pretty please" or "thank you." I have never said anything wishy-washy like he uses "Patriotic Rhetoric." I say my son died for LIES. George Bush LIED to us and he knew he was LYING. The Downing Street Memos dated 23 July, 2002 prove that he knew that Saddam didn't have WMD's or any ties to Al Qaeda. I believe that George lied and he knew he was lying. He didn't use patriotic rhetoric. He lied and made us afraid of ghosts that weren't there. Now he is using patriotic rhetoric to keep the U.S. military presence in Iraq: Patriotic rhetoric that is based on greed and nothing else.

Now I am being vilified and dragged through the mud by the righties and so-called "fair and balanced" main stream media who are afraid of the truth and can't face someone who tells it by telling any truth of their own. Now they have to twist, distort, lie, and scrutinize anything I have ever said when they never scrutinize anything that George Bush said or is saying. Instead of asking George or Scotty McClellan if he will meet with me, why aren't they asking the questions they should have been asking all along: "Why are our young people fighting, dying, and killing in Iraq? What is this noble cause you are sending our young people to Iraq for? What do you hope to accomplish there? Why did you tell us there were WMD's and ties to Al Qaeda when you knew there weren't? Why did you lie to us? Why did you lie to the American people? Why did you lie to the world? Why are our nation's children still in harm's way and dying everyday when we all know you lied? Why do you continually say we have to 'complete the mission' when you know damn well you have no idea what that mission is and you can change it at will like you change your cowboy shirts?"

Camp Casey has grown and prospered and survived all attacks and challenges because America is sick and tired of liars and hypocrites and we want the answers to the tough questions that I was the first to dare ask. THIS is George Bush's accountability moment and he is failing miserably. George Bush and his advisers seriously "misunderestimated" me when they thought they could intimidate me into leaving before I had the answers, or before the end of August. I can take anything they throw at me, or Camp Casey. If it shortens the war by a minute or saves one life, it is worth it. I think they seriously "misunderestimated" all mothers. I wonder if any of them had authentic mother-child relationships and if they are surprised that there are so many mothers in this country who are bear-like when it comes to wanting the truth and who want to make meaning of their child's needless and seemingly meaningless deaths?

The Camp Casey movement will not die until we have a genuine accounting of the truth and until our troops are brought home. Get used to it George, we are not going away.

A BUZZFLASH GUEST CONTRIBUTION

Learn more about Cindy at http://www.meetwithCindy.com or about Gold Star Mothers for Peace at http://www.gsfp.org.

FORD
08-20-2005, 04:06 PM
God bless you Cindy! You and your mother are in our prayers :angel:

frets5150
08-20-2005, 07:25 PM
Good for you Cindy
Still wonder when the CHIMP GIRLS are going to ENLIST!!! :rolleyes:

Phil theStalker
08-20-2005, 08:25 PM
Originally posted by frets5150
Good for you Cindy
Still wonder when the CHIMP GIRLS are going to ENLIST!!! :rolleyes:
Hey, dude.

Can you shrink your signature pic down a little bit so that I don't have to scroll my screen left and right to read the text? huh

Y'know, you shouldn't have to be asked.

You should know you have a fucked up sig to begin with.

Change it, shrink it, or go to another message board.

fak


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Phil theStalker
08-20-2005, 08:29 PM
Y'know, today I'm just getting a little tired of the stupid people of the world.

The context of your sig's not bad, but the size fucks up the text in every thread you post in.

Why haven't you noticed?

You complain about Bush and then act stupid just like he is stupid.

What's your point?


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frets5150
08-20-2005, 08:47 PM
You don't like it don't look ive seen bigger sig's then that.
And how dare you compare me to Bush YOU FUCKIN ASSHOLE
I don't start shit with anyone here don't start shit with me...
First you say i got a fucked up sig then you say...( The context of your sig's not bad) make up your mind.:rolleyes:

Unchainme
08-20-2005, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by frets5150
You don't like it don't look ive seen bigger sig's then that.
And how dare you compare me to Bush YOU FUCKIN ASSHOLE
I don't start shit with anyone here don't start shit with me...
First you say i got a fucked up sig then you say...( The context of your sig's not bad) make up your mind.

Dude your Sig Is pretty sick, I mean I'm not one to censor, but when I feel like I got ot throw up everytime I see it, Then Yeah its Time to change it and ut some Naked Chicks on it :D

FORD
08-20-2005, 08:53 PM
Originally posted by frets5150
You don't like it don't look ive seen bigger sig's then that.
And how dare you compare me to Bush YOU FUCKIN ASSHOLE
I don't start shit with anyone here don't start shit with me...
First you say i got a fucked up sig then you say...( The context of your sig's not bad) make up your mind.:rolleyes:

Frets, actually a lot of people have spoke to myself and other mods about your signature pic. While I have no problem with posting the picture as a statement against the BCE, once, or even once in a while, would be sufficient.

It's really a bit much for a signature pic. Consider this a request to change it "from management"

frets5150
08-20-2005, 08:55 PM
Well since you ask nicely i will resize it. But to remove it? THE TRUTH HURTS.When some Mod's tell me to remove it i will .PEACE...

Unchainme
08-20-2005, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by frets5150
Well since you ask nicely i will resize it. But to remove it? THE TRUTH HURTS.When some Mod's tell me to remove it i will .PEACE...

Two Words Man
NAKED CHICKS

Use them in your sig!!!

frets5150
08-20-2005, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Frets, actually a lot of people have spoke to myself and other mods about your signature pic. While I have no problem with posting the picture as a statement against the BCE, once, or even once in a while, would be sufficient.

It's really a bit much for a signature pic. Consider this a request to change it "from management"


Since you asked me FORD I will do it...:D

Seshmeister
08-20-2005, 08:58 PM
I have to agree.

I've posted some pictures of war casualties myself a couple of times to make a point when confronted by gung ho bullshit about the glory of war but having to look at it 30 times a day is just a bit much and more likely to just lessen it's shock value.

Thanks!

:gulp:

Unchainme
08-20-2005, 09:00 PM
Naked Chicks PLEASE!!!

frets5150
08-20-2005, 09:02 PM
Originally posted by Seshmeister
I have to agree.

I've posted some pictures of war casualties myself a couple of times to make a point when confronted by gung ho bullshit about the glory of war but having to look at it 30 times a day is just a bit much and more likely to just lessen it's shock value.

Thanks!

:gulp:

Not a problem...:D

FORD
08-20-2005, 09:17 PM
Thanks.

And no naked chicks in the signatures either!

A lot of people access the Army from work. They know better than to go to the picture forum from work (unless they're really stupid). But the rest of the forums should be "work friendly".

Maybe not the Dump.... God only knows what you'll find in there!

Phil theStalker
08-20-2005, 09:22 PM
Not me, I've still got a problem.

The bottom two pics in your sig S-T-R-E-T-C-H the text box after you post with it and EVERYBODY has to SCROLL left and right, left and right, left and right to read each line.

You did start shit with me when you made me scroll each line to fit your oversized sig.

But the idiots who also have to scroll each line instead fill this thread up with complaints about the context of the pic, the blood and not the size.

Before you call me a "fucking asshole" again you'll want to simply look up the definition of the word, context, and that will answer a lot of your questions about how my mind works. It works correctly.

Your mind would probably work correctly too if you had a vocabulary. C'mon buddy, your 37. Hit the books or it's all downhill from here. Your days of being an ignorant youth will not help you get through your golden years.

That's what's wrong with the whole damn human race.

Yesterday someone middle-aged and American didn't know what the word, redundant, meant.

Simple words like context and redundant are words that too many people here don't understand and yet they complain about the illiterate chimp for President and do not want to be compared to him.

ok


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Phil theStalker
08-20-2005, 09:24 PM
Do you see, FORD?

This is the way you guys fix your country.

frets removed the blood pic, but the "scrolling" problem still exists.

I, for one, didn't complain about the blood pic.

I complained about the SIZE of the sig.

For all the posts from everybody in this thread about changing his sig, you all caused him to change it, but for the wrong reasons.

Just pretend I'm not right, ok.

Have a Happy Doomsday.


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Phil theStalker
08-20-2005, 09:28 PM
I can't read this without scrolling.

You posted to frets, but you've all fucked up.

Just like I see you do with your governments, your jobs, and your families.

You can't focus on the problem to SAVE YOUR LIVES. (sic)


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FORD
08-20-2005, 09:31 PM
Try refreshing your browser, Phil.

I don't have a "scrolling problem", and I'm logged in on an old computer running 800x600 at the moment.

Phil theStalker
08-20-2005, 09:34 PM
The Wisdom Of The Illiterati
www.theilliterate.com


=PtS=
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Phil theStalker
08-20-2005, 09:36 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Try refreshing your browser, Phil.

I don't have a "scrolling problem", and I'm logged in on an old computer running 800x600 at the moment.
Really?!

I'm at 1024 X 768 right now and I still have to scroll.

Eh, that's life I suppose.


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frets5150
08-20-2005, 09:36 PM
Originally posted by Phil theStalker
[B]Not me, I've still got a problem.

The bottom two pics in your sig S-T-R-E-T-C-H the text box after you post with it and EVERYBODY has to SCROLL left and right, left and right, left and right to read each line.



Good you know your LEFT from your Right
now go put on your skirt and bake a cake

:p

frets5150
08-20-2005, 09:36 PM
:D

Phil theStalker
08-20-2005, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by frets5150
Good you know your LEFT from your Right
now go put on your skirt and bake a cake

:p You can use your skirt to dry your crying eyes.:D


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PS Thanks for changing your sig, bro.

It helps. ;)

Phil theStalker
08-20-2005, 09:41 PM
And hey, I liked those two pics at the bottom of your sig. I downloaded them to use them in the future. They were great to see...ONCE.:)

What's this thread really about anyway?

by now I've forgotten.


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frets5150
08-20-2005, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by Phil theStalker
You can use your skirt to dry your crying eyes.:D


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PS Thanks for changing your sig, bro.

It helps. ;)

No Problem :D