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FORD
09-08-2005, 03:08 AM
KATRINA TIMELINE

Friday, August 26

GOV. KATHLEEN BLANCO DECLARES STATE OF EMERGENCY IN LOUISIANA: [Office of the Governor]

GULF COAST STATES REQUEST TROOP ASSISTANCE FROM PENTAGON: At a 9/1 press conference, Lt. Gen. Russel Honoré, commander, Joint Task Force Katrina, said that the Gulf States began the process of requesting additional forces on Friday, 8/26. [DOD]

Saturday, August 27

5AM — KATRINA UPGRADED TO CATEGORY 3 HURRICANE [CNN]

GOV. BLANCO ASKS BUSH TO DECLARE FEDERAL STATE OF EMERGENCY IN LOUISIANA: “I have determined that this incident is of such severity and magnitude that effective response is beyond the capabilities of the State and affected local governments, and that supplementary Federal assistance is necessary to save lives, protect property, public health, and safety, or to lessen or avert the threat of a disaster.” [Office of the Governor]

FEDERAL EMERGENCY DECLARED, DHS AND FEMA GIVEN FULL AUTHORITY TO RESPOND TO KATRINA: “Specifically, FEMA is authorized to identify, mobilize, and provide at its discretion, equipment and resources necessary to alleviate the impacts of the emergency.” [White House]

Sunday, August 28

2AM – KATRINA UPGRADED TO CATEGORY 4 HURRICANE [CNN]

7AM – KATRINA UPGRADED TO CATEGORY 5 HURRICANE [CNN]

MORNING — LOUISIANA NEWSPAPER SIGNALS LEVEES MAY GIVE: “Forecasters Fear Levees Won’t Hold Katrina”: “Forecasters feared Sunday afternoon that storm driven waters will lap over the New Orleans levees when monster Hurricane Katrina pushes past the Crescent City tomorrow.” [Lafayette Daily Advertiser]

9:30 AM — MAYOR NAGIN ISSUES FIRST EVER MANDATORY EVACUATION OF NEW ORLEANS: “We’re facing the storm most of us have feared,” said Nagin. “This is going to be an unprecedented event.” [Times-Picayune]

4PM – NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ISSUES SPECIAL HURRICANE WARNING: In the event of a category 4 or 5 hit, “Most of the area will be uninhabitable for weeks, perhaps longer. … At least one-half of well-constructed homes will have roof and wall failure. All gabled roofs will fail, leaving those homes severely damaged or destroyed. … Power outages will last for weeks. … Water shortages will make human suffering incredible by modern standards.” [National Weather Service]

AFTERNOON — BUSH, BROWN, CHERTOFF WARNED OF LEVEE FAILURE BY NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER DIRECTOR: Dr. Max Mayfield, director of the National Hurricane Center: “‘We were briefing them way before landfall. … It’s not like this was a surprise. We had in the advisories that the levee could be topped.’” [Times-Picayune; St. Petersburg Times]

LATE PM – REPORTS OF WATER TOPPLING OVER LEVEE: “Waves crashed atop the exercise path on the Lake Pontchartrain levee in Kenner early Monday as Katrina churned closer.” [Times-Picayune]

APPROXIMATELY 30,000 EVACUEES GATHER AT SUPERDOME WITH ROUGHLY 36 HOURS WORTH OF FOOD [Times-Picayune]

Monday, August 29

7AM – KATRINA MAKES LANDFALL AS A CATEGORY 4 HURRICANE [CNN]

8AM – MAYOR NAGIN REPORTS THAT WATER IS FLOWING OVER LEVEE: “I’ve gotten reports this morning that there is already water coming over some of the levee systems. In the lower ninth ward, we’ve had one of our pumping stations to stop operating, so we will have significant flooding, it is just a matter of how much.” [NBC’s “Today Show”]

MORNING — BUSH CALLS SECRETARY CHERTOFF TO DISCUSS IMMIGRATION: “I spoke to Mike Chertoff today — he’s the head of the Department of Homeland Security. I knew people would want me to discuss this issue [immigration], so we got us an airplane on — a telephone on Air Force One, so I called him. I said, are you working with the governor? He said, you bet we are.” [White House]

MORNING – BUSH SHARES BIRTHDAY CAKE PHOTO-OP WITH SEN. JOHN MCCAIN [White House]

10AM — BUSH VISITS ARIZONA RESORT TO PROMOTE MEDICARE DRUG BENEFIT: “This new bill I signed says, if you’re a senior and you like the way things are today, you’re in good shape, don’t change. But, by the way, there’s a lot of different options for you. And we’re here to talk about what that means to our seniors.” [White House]

LATE MORNING – LEVEE BREACHED: “A large section of the vital 17th Street Canal levee, where it connects to the brand new ‘hurricane proof’ Old Hammond Highway bridge, gave way late Monday morning in Bucktown after Katrina’s fiercest winds were well north.” [Times-Picayune]

11:30AM — MICHAEL BROWN FINALLY REQUESTS THAT DHS DISPATCH 1,000 EMPLOYEES TO REGION, GIVES THEM TWO DAYS TO ARRIVE: “Brown’s memo to Chertoff described Katrina as ‘this near catastrophic event’ but otherwise lacked any urgent language. The memo politely ended, ‘Thank you for your consideration in helping us to meet our responsibilities.’” [AP]

2PM — BUSH TRAVELS TO CALIFORNIA SENIOR CENTER TO DISCUSS MEDICARE DRUG BENEFIT: “We’ve got some folks up here who are concerned about their Social Security or Medicare. Joan Geist is with us. … I could tell — she was looking at me when I first walked in the room to meet her, she was wondering whether or not old George W. is going to take away her Social Security check.” [White House]

9PM — RUMSFELD ATTENDS SAN DIEGO PADRES BASEBALL GAME: Rumsfeld “joined Padres President John Moores in the owner’s box…at Petco Park.” [Editor & Publisher]

Tuesday, August 30

9AM – BUSH SPEAKS ON IRAQ AT NAVAL BASE CORONADO [White House]

MIDDAY – CHERTOFF FINALLY BECOMES AWARE THAT LEVEE HAS FAILED: “It was on Tuesday that the levee–may have been overnight Monday to Tuesday–that the levee started to break. And it was midday Tuesday that I became aware of the fact that there was no possibility of plugging the gap and that essentially the lake was going to start to drain into the city.” [Meet the Press, 9/4/05]

PENTAGON CLAIMS THERE ARE ENOUGH NATIONAL GUARD TROOPS IN REGION: “Pentagon spokesman Lawrence Di Rita said the states have adequate National Guard units to handle the hurricane needs.” [WWL-TV]

MASS LOOTING REPORTED, SECURITY SHORTAGE CITED: “The looting is out of control. The French Quarter has been attacked,” Councilwoman Jackie Clarkson said. “We’re using exhausted, scarce police to control looting when they should be used for search and rescue while we still have people on rooftops.” [AP]

U.S.S. BATAAN SITS OFF SHORE, VIRTUALLY UNUSED: “The USS Bataan, a 844-foot ship designed to dispatch Marines in amphibious assaults, has helicopters, doctors, hospital beds, food and water. It also can make its own water, up to 100,000 gallons a day. And it just happened to be in the Gulf of Mexico when Katrina came roaring ashore. The Bataan rode out the storm and then followed it toward shore, awaiting relief orders. Helicopter pilots flying from its deck were some of the first to begin plucking stranded New Orleans residents. But now the Bataan’s hospital facilities, including six operating rooms and beds for 600 patients, are empty.” [Chicago Tribune]

3PM – PRESIDENT BUSH PLAYS GUITAR WITH COUNTRY SINGER MARK WILLIS [AP]

BUSH RETURNS TO CRAWFORD FOR FINAL NIGHT OF VACATION [AP]

Wednesday, August 31

TENS OF THOUSANDS TRAPPED IN SUPERDOME; CONDITIONS DETERIORATE: “A 2-year-old girl slept in a pool of urine. Crack vials littered a restroom. Blood stained the walls next to vending machines smashed by teenagers. ‘We pee on the floor. We are like animals,’ said Taffany Smith, 25, as she cradled her 3-week-old son, Terry. … By Wednesday, it had degenerated into horror. … At least two people, including a child, have been raped. At least three people have died, including one man who jumped 50 feet to his death, saying he had nothing left to live for. There is no sanitation. The stench is overwhelming.”" [Los Angeles Times, 9/1/05]

PRESIDENT BUSH FINALLY ORGANIZES TASK FORCE TO COORDINATE FEDERAL RESPONSE: Bush says on Tuesday he will “fly to Washington to begin work…with a task force that will coordinate the work of 14 federal agencies involved in the relief effort.” [New York Times, 8/31/05]

JEFFERSON PARISH EMERGENCY DIRECTOR SAYS FOOD AND WATER SUPPLY GONE: “Director Walter Maestri: FEMA and national agencies not delivering the help nearly as fast as it is needed.” [WWL-TV]

80,000 BELIEVED STRANDED IN NEW ORLEANS: Former Mayor Sidney Barthelemy “estimated 80,000 were trapped in the flooded city and urged President Bush to send more troops.” [Reuters]

3,000 STRANDED AT CONVENTION CENTER WITHOUT FOOD OR WATER: “With 3,000 or more evacuees stranded at the convention center — and with no apparent contingency plan or authority to deal with them — collecting a body was no one’s priority. … Some had been at the convention center since Tuesday morning but had received no food, water or instructions.” [Times-Picayune]

5PM — BUSH GIVES FIRST MAJOR ADDRESS ON KATRINA: “Nothing about the president’s demeanor… — which seemed casual to the point of carelessness — suggested that he understood the depth of the current crisis.” [New York Times]

8:00PM – CONDOLEEZZA RICE TAKES IN A BROADWAY SHOW: “On Wednesday night, Secretary Rice was booed by some audience members at ‘Spamalot!, the Monty Python musical at the Shubert, when the lights went up after the performance.” [New York Post, 9/2/05]

9PM — FEMA DIRECTOR BROWN CLAIMS SURPRISE OVER SIZE OF STORM: “I must say, this storm is much much bigger than anyone expected.” [CNN]

Thursday, September 1

8AM — BUSH CLAIMS NO ONE EXPECTED LEVEES TO BREAK: “I don’t think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees.” [Washington Post]

CONDOLEEZZA RICE VISITS U.S. OPEN: “Rice, [in New York] on three days’ vacation to shop and see the U.S. Open, hitting some balls with retired champ Monica Seles at the Indoor Tennis Club at Grand Central.” [New York Post]

STILL NO COMMAND AND CONTROL ESTABLISHED: Terry Ebbert, New Orleans Homeland Security Director: “This is a national emergency. This is a national disgrace. FEMA has been here three days, yet there is no command and control. We can send massive amounts of aid to tsunami victims, but we can’t bail out the city of New Orleans.” [Fox News]

2PM — MAYOR NAGIN ISSUES “DESPERATE SOS” TO FEDERAL GOVERNMENT: “This is a desperate SOS. Right now we are out of resources at the convention centre and don’t anticipate enough buses. We need buses. Currently the convention centre is unsanitary and unsafe and we’re running out of supplies.” [Guardian, 9/2/05]

2PM — MICHAEL BROWN CLAIMS NOT TO HAVE HEARD OF REPORTS OF VIOLENCE: “I’ve had no reports of unrest, if the connotation of the word unrest means that people are beginning to riot, or you know, they’re banging on walls and screaming and hollering or burning tires or whatever. I’ve had no reports of that.” [CNN]

NEW ORLEANS “DESCEND[S] INTO ANARCHY”: “Storm victims were raped and beaten, fights and fires broke out, corpses lay out in the open, and rescue helicopters and law enforcement officers were shot at as flooded-out New Orleans descended into anarchy Thursday. ‘This is a desperate SOS,’ the mayor said.” [AP]

CONDOLEEZZA RICE GOES SHOE SHOPPING: “Just moments ago at the Ferragamo on 5th Avenue, Condoleeza Rice was seen spending several thousands of dollars on some nice, new shoes (we’ve confirmed this, so her new heels will surely get coverage from the WaPo’s Robin Givhan). A fellow shopper, unable to fathom the absurdity of Rice’s timing, went up to the Secretary and reportedly shouted, ‘How dare you shop for shoes while thousands are dying and homeless!’” [Gawker]

MICHAEL BROWN FINALLY LEARNS OF EVACUEES IN CONVENTION CENTER: “We learned about that (Thursday), so I have directed that we have all available resources to get that convention center to make sure that they have the food and water and medical care that they need.” [CNN]

Friday, September 2

ROVE-LED CAMPAIGN TO BLAME LOCAL OFFICIALS BEGINS: “Under the command of President Bush’s two senior political advisers, the White House rolled out a plan…to contain the political damage from the administration’s response to Hurricane Katrina.” President Bush’s comments from the Rose Garden Friday morning formed “the start of this campaign.” [New York Times, 9/5/05]

9:35AM — BUSH PRAISES MICHAEL BROWN: “Brownie, you’re doing a heck of a job.” [White House, 9/2/05]

10 AM — PRESIDENT BUSH STAGES PHOTO-OP “BRIEFING”: Coast Guard helicopters and crew diverted to act as backdrop for President Bush’s photo-op.

BUSH VISIT GROUNDS FOOD AID: “Three tons of food ready for delivery by air to refugees in St. Bernard Parish and on Algiers Point sat on the Crescent City Connection bridge Friday afternoon as air traffic was halted because of President Bush’s visit to New Orleans, officials said.” [Times-Picayune]

LEVEE REPAIR WORK ORCHESTRATED FOR PRESIDENT’S VISIT: Sen. Mary Landrieu, 9/3: “Touring this critical site yesterday with the President, I saw what I believed to be a real and significant effort to get a handle on a major cause of this catastrophe. Flying over this critical spot again this morning, less than 24 hours later, it became apparent that yesterday we witnessed a hastily prepared stage set for a Presidential photo opportunity; and the desperately needed resources we saw were this morning reduced to a single, lonely piece of equipment.” [Sen. Mary Landrieu]

BUSH USES 50 FIREFIGHTERS AS PROPS IN DISASTER AREA PHOTO-OP: A group of 1,000 firefighters convened in Atlanta to volunteer with the Katrina relief efforts. Of those, “a team of 50 Monday morning quickly was ushered onto a flight headed for Louisiana. The crew’s first assignment: to stand beside President Bush as he tours devastated areas.” [Salt Lake Tribune; Reuters]

3PM — BUSH “SATISFIED WITH THE RESPONSE”: “I am satisfied with the response. I am not satisfied with all the results.” [AP]

Saturday, September 3

SENIOR BUSH ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL LIES TO WASHINGTON POST, CLAIMS GOV. BLANCO NEVER DECLARED STATE OF EMERGENCY: The Post reported in their Sunday edition “As of Saturday, Blanco still had not declared a state of emergency, the senior Bush official said.” They were forced to issue a correction hours later. [Washington Post, 9/4/05]

9AM — BUSH BLAMES STATE AND LOCAL OFFICIALS: “[T]he magnitude of responding to a crisis over a disaster area that is larger than the size of Great Britain has created tremendous problems that have strained state and local capabilities. The result is that many of our citizens simply are not getting the help they need.” [White House, 9/3/05]


http://www.thinkprogress.org/katrina-timeline

Nitro Express
09-08-2005, 04:05 AM
Nero played his violin while Rome burned. Bush played his guitar as New Orleans flooded. Condaleeza Rice should have said,"Let them eat cake!" What a bunch of fools. People like them lost their heads in France when the people got fed up with such bullshit. I suggest Condaleeza go see Les Miserab instead on Monty Python next time.

stilleddiesangel
09-08-2005, 04:17 AM
The neglect here is criminal. :(

Warham
09-08-2005, 08:01 AM
[Mayor] NAGIN: "Look, I've gotten promises to -- I can't stand anymore promises. I don't want to hear anymore promises. I want to see stuff done. And that's why I'm so happy that the president came down here, because I think they were feeding him a line of bull also. And they were telling him things weren't as bad as it was.
He came down and saw it, and [President Bush] put a general on the field. His name is General Honore. And when he hit the field, we started to see action.
And what the state was doing, I don't frigging know. But I tell you, I am pissed. It wasn't adequate."

diamondD
09-08-2005, 08:57 AM
Now Warham, you know the BCE promised him something in an effort to cover the president's ass. There's no way he just said that from his heart. :rolleyes:;)

FORD
09-08-2005, 09:30 AM
No, it's true enough that General Honore went right to work. Problem is that he didn't get there until 6 days later.

ELVIS
09-08-2005, 09:32 AM
Surely General Honore is some sort of BCE operative...

LoungeMachine
09-08-2005, 09:51 AM
Originally posted by ELVIS
Surely General Honore is some sort of BCE operative...

That's your response to this criminal time line ??:rolleyes:


Glad to see you're here again today, nurse


Well, at least you didn't tee-hee again

blueturk
09-08-2005, 10:00 AM
Originally posted by FORD
No, it's true enough that General Honore went right to work. Problem is that he didn't get there until 6 days later.

Funny how it took Dudya 6 days to get Honore in there, and 6 minutes to nominate Roberts for chief justice.

Cathedral
09-08-2005, 10:28 AM
The problem is no single persons fault, it was a breakdown in leadership from the very top to the very bottom.
There is not one fucking organization that had their shit together. and as every Mayor vs. Governor interaction suggests, everyone had their own ideas effectively cock-blocking each other all the way.

But again, here we are with all sorts of finger pointing, strong political war talk, and nothing that can prove the allegations.
How swift an enemy that is able to get away with so much right under the noses of everyone and never leave any evidence anywhere to the contrary, hmmmmmmm....that's something to think about, eh?

I don't believe RACE had a damn thing to do with anything, it was stupidity.
{Staying}, was stupid, period.
No car? Don't care, {Staying}, is stupid.
No money? Don't care, {Staying} is stupid.

I have this thing where if a Natural fucking Disaster is coming my way...I get out of the way...duh!

"Some didn't have any money, where would they go?"
They would go to an assured clear distance and do what we pilgrims call...."Camp!"

"But they were all poverty stricken black people!"
Yeah, and i don't know a black man that doesn't own a fucking fishing pole.

Everyone that kept a child in the path of that thing needs their ass hung.
So, it wasn't a Cat-5 and was just barely a Cat-4....the levee's could not deal with a storm above Cat-3.........FUCKIN' DUH, MY ASS WOULD BE TRUCKIN' MY FAMILY NORTH, BROTHA'S AND SISTA'S!

Society is soooo spoiled, it's pathetic.
walking isn't just a cool thing the body does between refridgerator stops, it can save your life if you aren't stupid.
I'm sorry, but i have been saying for a long time now that our government cannot protect us...
I think everyone pretty much knew that, deep down. So the display of shock and outrage surprises me...Nothing you see coming should be a surprise, lol.

The failure to respond properly began in the basement and engulfed every level of government up to Bush.
Every damn one of them got caught with their heads up their ass and this should be a very loud scream to everyone that in the event the entire nation was incapacitated the same way as Louisiana, WE ARE ON OUR OWN!

I just happen to live with this mind set, so it doesn't surprise me to see what has happened, happen.

I don't need any independant council to investigate shit, I know my government is self serviant. I'll be standing outside if a bomb hits while they'll be safely tucked into a bunker...yeah, that dude will be worrying if i have water or food for my family...and race ain't got shit to do with it....that's where greed and elitism takes over.

Whatever you do on this earth, don't ever expect anyone else to look out for YOUR best interests.
Be a ray of hope to others by being strong, but don't expect rationality in a time of lawlessness and desperation.

You anti-gun advocates may want to start re-thinking your positions before someone with a gun takes your supplies from you at gun point, and maybe they won't kill you in the process.
Better hope your wives and daughters aren't beautiful

Now go play politics and drag this shit through the mud till the cows come home. It won't get anyone anywhere and we won't be anymore prepared for this to happen again because the focus, as usual, will be spent on placing blame rather than correcting the problem.

In my opinion, there are more pressing issues like finding the people that are missing, and looking at the future effects of all that contaminated water on the ecosystem, etc.

I am ashamed at everyone that has skewed the priorities on this.

ELVIS
09-08-2005, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
That's your response to this criminal time line ??:rolleyes:

It's bullshit!

Glad to see you're here again today, nurse

Shut the fuck up!

Well, at least you didn't tee-hee again

Whatever, you stupid fuck...

LoungeMachine
09-08-2005, 12:04 PM
No, I won't shut the fuck up, Mr. Christian.

It's a message board, don't like the message, go fuck yourself with a rusty hammer.


And how is the time line bullshit?????

Nevermind. I couldn't care less about your racist spin.

ELVIS
09-08-2005, 12:06 PM
Dumbass...:rolleyes:

Warham
09-08-2005, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
No, I won't shut the fuck up, Mr. Christian.

It's a message board, don't like the message, go fuck yourself with a rusty hammer.


And how is the time line bullshit?????

Nevermind. I couldn't care less about your racist spin.

Lounge has to pick on somebody to feel good about himself, Elvis. Take it in stride. ;)

BigBadBrian
09-08-2005, 01:41 PM
Originally posted by blueturk
Funny how it took Dudya 6 days to get Honore in there, and 6 minutes to nominate Roberts for chief justice.

I find it quite funny that you and FORD like to stretch the truth.

I first saw Lt. Gen Honore being interviewed on the news that Thursday. Not exactly 6 days after the hurricane now is it? ;)

BigBadBrian
09-08-2005, 01:43 PM
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40765000/jpg/_40765970_buses.jpg

DrMaddVibe
09-08-2005, 01:44 PM
Don't interject truth...the anti-US fuckheads won't have anything to cheer about!

Warham
09-08-2005, 01:45 PM
I've read on the interweb this afternoon that political folks in Louisiana want to impeach Blanco. Take it for what it is.

We haven't heard it all yet.

BigBadBrian
09-08-2005, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by Warham
I've read on the interweb this afternoon that political folks in Louisiana want to impeach Blanco.

Crucify her. :mad:

FORD
09-08-2005, 01:52 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
Crucify her. :mad:

Spoken like a true Pharisee.

DrMaddVibe
09-08-2005, 01:53 PM
You mean just the white people?

Or is it the rich people?

"Oh lordy Lord...we be talkin' 'bout da same ting'!"

BigBadBrian
09-08-2005, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Spoken like a true Pharisee.

.....and the Mayor too.

:gulp:

FORD
09-08-2005, 01:58 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
.....and the Mayor too.

:gulp:

And the Chimp.

And "the Devil"

And the horse groomer.

ELVIS
09-08-2005, 01:59 PM
And FORD.

Warham
09-08-2005, 02:00 PM
I wonder how Bush steered the hurricane over New Orleans. I'll have to visit Democratic Underground to find out.

blueturk
09-08-2005, 02:00 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
I find it quite funny that you and FORD like to stretch the truth.

I first saw Lt. Gen Honore being interviewed on the news that Thursday. Not exactly 6 days after the hurricane now is it? ;)

My fault. Okay then, it took Bush 3 or 4 days to bring Honore in and 3 or 4 minutes to nominate Roberts.

"What I'm hearing which is sort of scary is that they all want to stay in Texas. Everybody is so overwhelmed by the hospitality. And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway so this (chuckle) – this is working very well for them." –Former First Lady Barbara Bush, on the Hurricane flood evacuees in the Houston Astrodome, Sept. 5, 2005

FORD
09-08-2005, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by ELVIS
And FORD.

How the fuck did I have anything to do with it? :confused:

Warham
09-08-2005, 02:03 PM
Some of those people will never return because they didn't have anything to begin with, so it is better for some of them, as blunt as that sounds.

You'd think that New Orleans would be a utopian society since Democrats have been running it for the last fifty years. I guess not.

DrMaddVibe
09-08-2005, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by FORD
How the fuck did I have anything to do with it? :confused:

You don't like black people!

Kanye West said so.

ELVIS
09-08-2005, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by FORD
How the fuck did I have anything to do with it? :confused:

By misleading people...

DrMaddVibe
09-08-2005, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by Warham
Some of those people will never return because they didn't have anything to begin with, so it is better for some of them, as blunt as that sounds.

You'd think that New Orleans would be a utopian society since Democrats have been running it for the last fifty years. I guess not.

Yup!

Those cots on the Astrodome carpet seem like the fuckin' Taj Mahal compared to the government housing the Dems built for them!

FORD
09-08-2005, 02:06 PM
Originally posted by ELVIS
By misleading people...

I'm not misleading anybody. Unlike your so called pResident and the evil satanic nazi sons of bitches who allegedly work "for" him.

BigBadBrian
09-08-2005, 02:07 PM
Originally posted by Warham
I wonder how Bush steered the hurricane over New Orleans. I'll have to visit Democratic Underground to find out.

I'm sure they've got it all figured out. I try to wade through the multiple posts on every subject over there before power puking.

blueturk
09-08-2005, 02:07 PM
Originally posted by Warham
Some of those people will never return because they didn't have anything to begin with, so it is better for some of them, as blunt as that sounds.


True enough, but it's not exactly something to chuckle over.

FORD
09-08-2005, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
You don't like black people!

Kanye West said so.

You're running out of material, AssVibe. That didn't even make sense.

ELVIS
09-08-2005, 02:08 PM
Oh bullshit FORD!!!

Your hatred for Bush clouds your senses for anything that resembles reality...

DrMaddVibe
09-08-2005, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by blueturk
True enough, but it's not exactly something to chuckle over.

Who's laughing?

The thought of generational government handouts makes me want to puke!

Warham
09-08-2005, 02:09 PM
Liberals: Proudly showing their hatred since 2000!

blueturk
09-08-2005, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by ELVIS
By misleading people...

This from a "Christian" racist ?:confused:

DrMaddVibe
09-08-2005, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by FORD
You're running out of material, AssVibe. That didn't even make sense.

So you don't deny it!

I knew you were a racist!

Now there's proof!:D

Warham
09-08-2005, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by blueturk
This from a "Christian" racist ?:confused:

I think we've already proven that Elvis isn't a racist.

This doesn't have any legs, so why use it?

FORD
09-08-2005, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by ELVIS
Oh bullshit Elvis!!!

Your blind devotion for Bush clouds your senses for anything that resembles reality...

ELVIS
09-08-2005, 02:13 PM
That's right...


:elvis:

blueturk
09-08-2005, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by Warham
I think we've already proven that Elvis isn't a racist.



If that's the case, then my fault. Against the wishes of AAA and Bush, I put some gas in the car and went on vacation, and I haven't been on here for a while.

FORD
09-08-2005, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
Who's laughing?

The thought of generational government handouts makes me want to puke!

Yet you worship a Chimp who has never held an actual job in his life.

Warham
09-08-2005, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by blueturk
If that's the case, then my fault. Against the wishes of AAA and Bush, I put some gas in the car and went on vacation.

What a rebel!

:D

blueturk
09-08-2005, 02:16 PM
Originally posted by Warham
What a rebel!

:D

Good one!

ELVIS
09-08-2005, 02:20 PM
Originally posted by Warham
I think we've already proven that Elvis isn't a racist.




BTW, I currently have three girlfriends...

One white, two black...


I'm no racist...:D



:elvis:

BigBadBrian
09-08-2005, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by ELVIS
BTW, I currently have three girlfriends...

One white, two black...


I'm no racist...:D



:elvis:


Oooooohhhh, that makes for an interesting evening.

:sex:

ELVIS
09-08-2005, 02:24 PM
They all know each other too...


:elvis:

blueturk
09-08-2005, 02:25 PM
So are you a pimp??!

ELVIS
09-08-2005, 02:25 PM
BTW, two of them, I have never slept with...

Yet...


:elvis:

ELVIS
09-08-2005, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by blueturk
So are you a pimp??!

No man...

blueturk
09-08-2005, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by ELVIS
BTW, two of them, I have never slept with...

Yet...


:elvis:

Yeah you're a pimp...:D

Warham
09-08-2005, 02:27 PM
OH MY!

BigBadBrian
09-08-2005, 02:27 PM
Originally posted by blueturk
Yeah you're a pimp...:D

You're just saying that because Black ladies are involved.

You wouldn't say that if only White women are involved.

You're a racist. :mad: :mad: :mad:

Warham
09-08-2005, 02:28 PM
Originally posted by blueturk
Yeah you're a pimp...:D

Are you jealous? ;)

ELVIS
09-08-2005, 02:29 PM
And they are ladies fo sho!

Nice cute girls that have their lives together...

BigBadBrian
09-08-2005, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by blueturk
Yeah you're a pimp...:D


I see you're from North Carolina, huh?

Probably in the Klan.

Probably a grand wizard or something or whatever they call it.

Racist bastard. :mad: :mad: :mad:

ELVIS
09-08-2005, 02:30 PM
hahaha...:D

Warham
09-08-2005, 02:31 PM
LOL

ELVIS
09-08-2005, 02:32 PM
:D

Warham
09-08-2005, 02:35 PM
You racist, you. hehe

FORD
09-08-2005, 02:38 PM
Elvis da Pimp.....
http://www.worth1000.com/entries/110000/110265UBDy_w.jpg

Warham
09-08-2005, 02:40 PM
I'm jealous. haha!

How unChristian of me.

I should be perfect, like Lounge.

DrMaddVibe
09-08-2005, 02:41 PM
Sounds more like equal opportunity for Elvis!

Now, Ford...he's a racist!

ELVIS
09-08-2005, 02:41 PM
Hey, I'm a single guy...

I'm no pimp!


I used to be very shy about dating...

No more!


:elvis:

ELVIS
09-08-2005, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by Warham
I'm jealous. haha!

How unChristian of me.

I should be perfect, like Lounge.


:D

Warham
09-08-2005, 02:41 PM
Good for you, Elvis.

Now we know why you're known as the King.

ELVIS
09-08-2005, 02:43 PM
Much to my suprise, I am very well liked by the ladies...:D

Warham
09-08-2005, 02:44 PM
You sinner you.

:D

BigBadBrian
09-08-2005, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
Sounds more like equal opportunity for Elvis!

Now, Ford...he's a racist!

Yeah.

He lives up there in the Northwest with all the skinheads.

He must be a racist.

:gulp:

Warham
09-08-2005, 02:46 PM
LMAO!

How many blacks live up in Seattle?

ELVIS
09-08-2005, 02:48 PM
Not that many...

I lived there for two years...

The minority is mostly asian...

Warham
09-08-2005, 02:50 PM
Washington: The Melting Pot State.

blueturk
09-08-2005, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
I see you're from North Carolina, huh?

Probably in the Klan.

Probably a grand wizard or something or whatever they call it.

Racist bastard. :mad: :mad: :mad:

You really got me on that one, BBB. No racists in Virginia....:rolleyes:

BigBadBrian
09-08-2005, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by blueturk
You really got me on that one, BBB. No racists in Virginia....:rolleyes:

None on my street. :D

:gulp:

blueturk
09-08-2005, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
None on my street. :D

:gulp:

Or mine.

Warham
09-08-2005, 03:15 PM
I've got two lesbians next door. Does that count?

ELVIS
09-08-2005, 03:18 PM
Nope!

Jesus Christ
09-08-2005, 03:36 PM
Wish I could sayeth the same about the neighborhood where I was born :(

Not a lot of peace in Bethlehem in recent years.....

Nickdfresh
09-08-2005, 06:01 PM
Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
Who's laughing?

The thought of generational government handouts makes me want to puke!

Unless it's to IRAQ Islamic fundamentalists, right AssVibe?

Nickdfresh
09-08-2005, 06:03 PM
Originally posted by Warham
I've got two lesbians next door. Does that count?

Are they hot "lipstick lesbians?" Please tell me they're hot lipstick lesbians!

I think you've said in the past they aren't though.:(

Warham
09-08-2005, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Are they hot "lipstick lesbians?" Please tell me they're hot lipstick lesbians!

I think you've said in the past they aren't though.:(

How about two 50+ year olds?

:p

My wife said I'd be over there helping them with their plumbing if they were two buxom young playboy types. lol

ODShowtime
09-08-2005, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by ELVIS
Surely General Honore is some sort of BCE operative...

What a moronic thing to say. Go back to rescuing people.

Warham
09-08-2005, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by ODShowtime
What a moronic thing to say. Go back to rescuing people.

I think it was a joke.

ODShowtime
09-08-2005, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by Warham
I think it was a joke.

It was supposed to be a joke, but it was offensive. Intelligent gw haters aren't sitting there and bitching about every little detail. There's plenty of legitimate gripes.

Number one to me right now is the message of weakness this sends. We have never broadcasted so many messages of weakness since that fucking buffoon got in office, and we even started two wars. That's interesting to me.

Regarding the general, we needed a strong authority in that area to lay down the law.

Warham
09-08-2005, 06:36 PM
I think America is showing it's strength right now.

We perform well under pressure.

Nickdfresh
09-08-2005, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by Warham
I think America is showing it's strength right now.

We perform well under pressure.

I just wish everyone, at all levels of gov't, had performed better before this tragedy happened.

Nickdfresh
09-08-2005, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by Warham
How about two 50+ year olds?

:p

My wife said I'd be over there helping them with their plumbing if they were two buxom young playboy types. lol

:(
Sounds like the INDIGO GIRLS or something...

DrMaddVibe
09-08-2005, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
I just wish everyone, at all levels of gov't, had performed better before this tragedy happened.

I wish you had something that would pass as a functioning brain!

ELVIS
09-08-2005, 08:59 PM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
I just wish everyone, at all levels of gov't, had performed better before this tragedy happened.

:rolleyes:

Nickdfresh
09-08-2005, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
I wish you had something that would pass as a functioning brain!

I wish you weren't such an angry little drunk.:)

Nickdfresh
09-08-2005, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by ELVIS
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

DrMaddVibe
09-08-2005, 09:40 PM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
I wish you weren't such an angry little drunk.:)

I wish you weren't wrong all the time!

DLR'sCock
09-08-2005, 09:53 PM
It's all Cintons and Democrats fault, and the fags, and the ******s, and the guineas, all those fucking brown people, the jews, and lesbos, and the unions, and the the the the the...

Nickdfresh
09-08-2005, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
I wish you weren't wrong all the time!

I wish you could prove me wrong once.

Funny how the majority of the American people agree that this is a clusterfuck from top down. But you only focus on the "down-low" apparently.;)

DrMaddVibe
09-08-2005, 10:02 PM
You're wrong right there.

That's a CBS poll.

Tomorrow there will be another poll.

You keep living your life by poll numbers.

America...Let's Roll!

Nickdfresh
09-08-2005, 10:25 PM
Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
You're wrong right there.

That's a CBS poll.

Tomorrow there will be another poll.

You keep living your life by poll numbers.

America...Let's Roll!

That's how politicians live...

rustoffa
09-08-2005, 10:36 PM
Originally posted by DLR'sCock
It's all Cintons and Democrats fault, and the fags, and the ******s, and the guineas, all those fucking brown people, the jews, and lesbos, and the unions, and the the the the the...

ELVIS
09-08-2005, 10:56 PM
Originally posted by DLR'sCock
It's all Cintons and Democrats fault, and the fags, and the ******s, and the guineas, all those fucking brown people, the jews, and lesbos, and the unions, and the the the the the...

Brown people ??

ODShowtime
09-08-2005, 11:55 PM
Originally posted by DLR'sCock
It's all Cintons and Democrats fault, and the fags, and the ******s, and the guineas, all those fucking brown people, the jews, and lesbos, and the unions, and the the the the the...

don't forget the Irish!

FORD
09-09-2005, 12:08 AM
Just to remind the delusional fucks who keep spinning the lies they heard on FAUX News tonight, there IS a timeline at the beginning of this fucked up and soon to be weed-eated thread and THAT is where the factual chain of events can be found.

Now back to your regularly scheduled Bush cocksucking.....

Warham
09-09-2005, 06:55 AM
Originally posted by DLR'sCock
It's all Cintons and Democrats fault

Finally come to your senses, eh?

DrMaddVibe
09-09-2005, 07:02 AM
Originally posted by FORD
Just to remind the delusional fucks who keep spinning the lies they heard on FAUX News tonight, there IS a timeline at the beginning of this fucked up and soon to be weed-eated thread and THAT is where the factual chain of events can be found.

Now back to your regularly scheduled Bush cocksucking.....

And the timeline is flawed and inaccurate!

COCKSUCKER!

DrMaddVibe
09-09-2005, 07:14 AM
KATRINA: RESPONSE TIMELINE
CATEGORY: KATRINA | Katrina Timeline

REVISED 9/6
REVISED 9/7
REVISED 9/8 FINAL ET FINIS

NOTE: My little hosting company has not been able to keep up with the monster traffic this site has recieved in the last 18 hours. If you have trouble leaving a comment or if the page is slow loading, I apologize.

FURTHER NOTE: OK…back to work now. Expect revised Timeline II by 7:00 PM Central Time.

The following is a timeline that details the response of local, state, and federal authorities to the disaster in New Orleans.

I have not included any information for other areas hit by the storm.

I used one source almost exclusively – the online editions of the New Orleans Times-Picayune (hereinafter referred to as TP). I daresay the paper will receive a Pulitzer Prize for their coverage. (9/6): More sources have been used as they have become available.

IT IS NOT MY INTENTION TO PLAY THE “BLAME GAME” BY PUBLISHING THIS TIMELINE.. In fact, if you have a link to a story that contradicts or adds to this timeline, I urge you to send it along. My sole purpose is to place this timeline on the record to dispel the rumors, the spin, and the outright falsehoods being flung about by both right and left bloggers and pundits.

The timeline runs from Friday, August 26 to Friday September 2.

UPDATE: 9/6

Several excellent suggestions and comments from various readers include the following:

1. Why not include on-the-ground- observations from bloggers? Short answer, it’s hearsay and unconfirmed. I have riveting accounts from various parts of the city in the hours after the disaster but there’s just no way to confirm the information. Perhaps what ever commission or Congressional panel is empowered to look into this fiasco will call them as witnesses. I hope so.

2. What? Nothing on the submerged busses? Sorry, I wish I could include stuff that either the locals or the feds didn’t do or should have done but the nature of a timeline only lends itself to what was actually done. Which brings me to my final point:

3. All that stuff prepositioned by the feds never got to the people, why put it in there? The fact is, unless I see some hard evidence that all of that stuff wasn’t in place it remains as part of the response and hence part of the timeline. I daresay that similar questions will be asked by folks with the power of subpenoa – something I don’t have.

UPDATE: 9/8

No more emails please. I’m sure there are others doing a timeline who would appreicate your input as much as I have. And for all who took the time to help – even those who wanted to “prove” one thing or another – I thank you.

************************************************** **********

FRIDAY, AUGUST 26

Afternoon

Dozens of local, state, and federal disaster officials meet to discuss FEMA Disaster Declaration No. 1601 that was issued as a result of tropical storm Cindy damages that occurred in July.

They also briefly discussed Katrina – although not quite in the context you might think:

“We’ve got this one storm we’re clearing up, yet we have another in the Gulf,” he said of Katrina, a rapidly strengthening storm that crossed south Florida on Thursday night and is expected to make a second landfall as a strong Category 3 hurricane somewhere between Louisiana and Florida late Sunday or Monday.

The subject of Friday’s meeting was serious, but as is often the case, participants relied on a bit of humor to ease the tension.

“Shouldn’t we just apply for Katrina money now? It would save time and taxpayers’ money,” joked Jim Baker, operations superintendent for the East Jefferson Levee District, one of the public agencies in line for a FEMA check.

Wonder what the group thought about this?

Off and on throughout the morning, Smith and Col. Steve Dabadie, Louisiana National Guard chief of staff, used a hand-held device to keep a check on Katrina’s track.

When the storm began a slight shift to the west, the device was passed from hand-to-hand for others to get a look.

Bet that room sobered up quite a bit after that.

The Mississippi Valley Division of the Army Corps of Engineers activates teams along the Mississippi and Louisiana Gulf Coasts to prepare for a potential response to Hurricane Katrina. (HT: Random 10)

Governor Blanco declares a State of Emergency for all of Louisiana. The President also issues a State of Emergency declaration and directs DHS and FEMA to coordinate disaster relief efforts. Revised 9/8.

SATURDAY, AUGUST 27

Morning

Overnight, Katrina strengthened and was drawing a bead on the gulf coast, moving west-northwest at 15 miles an hour and packing winds of 115 MPH.

Afternoon

A press conference with Mayor Nagin and Governor Blanco sounded the alarm. The Mayor urged residents to take the storm seriously saying to residents of low lying areas, “We want you to take this a little more seriously and start moving — right now, as a matter of fact,” Nagin said he would open the Superdome as a shelter of “last resort” for people with “special needs.”

He advised anyone planning to stay there to bring there own food, drinks and other comforts such as folding chairs, as if planning to go camping.

“No weapons, no large items, and bring small quanties of food for three or four days, to be safe,” he said.

Nagin spokeswoman Tami Frazier stressed that the mayor does not want citizens to plan on staying in the Dome—instead, they should make arrangements to leave the city if possible.

Police Superintendent Edward Compass said that looters would be “dealt with severly and harshly and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.”

By mid-afternoon, officials in Plaquemines, St. Bernard, St. Charles, Lafourche, Terrebonne and Jefferson parishes had called for voluntary or mandatory evacuations.

Mayor Nagin issued a voluntary evacuation order at 5:00 PM.

Nagin said late Saturday that he’s having his legal staff look into whether he can order a mandatory evacuation of the city, a step he’s been hesitant to do because of potential liability on the part of the city for closing hotels and other businesses. “Come the first break of light in the morning, you may have the first mandatory evacuation of New Orleans,” Nagin told WWL-TV.

The National Hurrican Center warns officials that Katrina is strengthening and will probably make landfall as a Category 4 or 5. This is really scary. This is not a test, as your governor said earlier today. This is the real thing,” said Director Max Mayfield. “The bottom line is this is a worst-case scenario and everybody needs to recognize it,” he said.

National Hurricane Center Director Max Mayfield calls Mayor Nagin at his home telling him that a mandatory evacuation was needed. He also calls Governor Blanco informing her of the strength of the Hurricane and its potential damage. Revised 9/7

SUNDAY, AUGUST 28

Morning

By 8:00 AM, Katrina, a category 5 hurricane, is headed straight for New Orleans. According to this peice in Editor and Publisher FEMA Director Brown, DHS Secretary Chertoff as well as local and state officials are informed by National Hurricane Director Max Mayfield via electronic briefing that the storm will cause massive damage and flooding – including levee breaches – in New Orleans 32 hours before the eye of the storm makes landfall. Mayfield briefed the President later in the day via video conference. Revised 9/8

The Superdome opens at 8:00 AM and begins to take people in.

In the face of a catastrophic Hurricane Katrina, a mandatory evacuation was ordered Sunday for New Orleans by Mayor Ray Nagin.

Gov. Kathleen Blanco, standing beside the mayor at a news conference, said President Bush called and personally appealed for a mandatory evacuation. The President’s call came just prior to the news conference and occurred after the decision had already been made. for the low-lying city, which is prone to flooding. Revised 9/6 (HT: Jay) Lexis-Nexis Subscription needed to access link.

“There doesn’t seem to be any relief in sight,” Blanco said.

The Mayor’s office announces at 9:30 AM that RTA (Regional Transit Authority) busses will pick people up at 12 locations throughout the city and take them to shelters – including the Superdome. This is in accordance with both the Comprehensive Emergency Management Plan for the city of New Orleans and The State of Louisiana Emergency Operations Plan Supplement 1B which clearly states that people who cannot be evacuated will be taken to “last resort” shelters such as the Superdome.

At 11:30 AM the President delivers a statement vowing to help those affected by the hurricane.

Governor Blanco requests that the President declare an “expected major disaster” for the state of Louisiana under the auspices of the Stafford Act. The declaration is designed to start major relief supplies flowing immediately to the affected area. Revised 9/8
By noon, the city puts its contraflow traffic system in effect so that both sides of major highways will allow for traffic out of the city.

Afternoon

The Coast Guard Auxillary was preparing to deploy. “William Crouch, Vice Commodore of the Auxiliary Eighth District Central Region stated this afternoon that “units from outlying areas are preparing to depart for the disaster area as soon as the situation becomes clear.”

New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson offered Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco help from his state’s National Guard on Sunday. Blanco accepted, but paperwork needed to get the troops en route didn’t come from Washington until late Thursday. Revised 9/7

National Hurricane Center Director Max Mayfield holds a video conference call with President Bush in which he outlines the strength of the hurricane and potential damage. Revised 9/8

By 3:00 PM, more than 10,000 people had either made their way into the Superdome or were standing outside. Those with medical problems were shuffled over to one side of the dome. Everyone else went to the other side:

“The people arriving on this side of the building are expected to fend for themselves,” said Terry Ebbert, the city’s homeland security director. “We have some water.”

About 150 National Guard soldiers, New Orleans police and civil sheriff’s deputies were patrolling the facility. Some weapons were confiscated.

Officials were settling in for what they predicted would be an incredibly hot and uncomfortable night. They expected flooding on the field and loss of power early today.

But officials were confident they could care for those with special needs.

“I’m not worried about what is tolerable or intolerable,” he [Ebbert] said. “I’m worried about, whether you are alive on Tuesday.”

Mayor Nagin ordered a curfew for the city beginning at 6:00 PM.

Evening

Louisiana Senators send a joint letter to the President thanking him for his actions and requesting that he visit the storm ravaged area “as soon as practical.”

The Coast Guard closes the ports and waterways into New Orleans. “The Guard also moved 40 aircraft and 30 boats and cutters in positions surrounding the expected strike zone, such as Houston and Jacksonville, readying to conduct search and rescue and humantarian missions, the Guard release said. ”

A 10:00 PM Katrina advisory by the National Hurricane Center has the storm moving slightly to the east and weakening.

About 26,000 people are taking refuge in the Superdome. “To help keep them fed and hydrated, the Louisiana National Guard delivered three truckloads of water and seven truckloads of MREs — short for “meals ready to eat.” That’s enough to supply 15,000 people for three days, according to Col. Jay Mayeaux, deputy director of the Department of Homeland Security’s Office of Emergency Preparedness.

Louis Armstrong Airport closes late Sunday night.

MONDAY, AUGUST 29

Overnight and Morning

More than 4,000 National Guardsmen are mobilizing in Memphis” to help police New Orleans streets.

The city’s director of homeland security said tonight that officials hope Katrina gets through the region Monday with several hours of daylight left so they can get up in the air and assess the damage.

“We are going to have very limited communication,” Terry Ebbert said. “The first order of business will be life-saving operations.” That may mean relocating thousands of people in the Superdome once power goes out and temperatures start to rise above 100 degrees, he said

At 3:00 AM the National Hurricane Center reported Katrian three hours from landfall with winds of 150 MPH.

Aircraft in position to help assess the damage and carry out rescues:

Aircraft are positioned from Hammond to the Texas border ready to fly behind the storm to check damage after it passes over New Orleans, said Maj. Gen. Bennett C. Landreneau, head of the Louisiana National Guard.

Search and rescue operations are being coordinated by the Guard with the state Wildlife and Fisheries Department and Coast Guard poised to help search for survivors stranded by the storm. Guardsmen are also deployed at the Jackson Barracks ready to head into the city using high-water vehicles, Landreneau said.

Director Ebbert said rescue priorities would be given to those stranded in their homes and those hospitalized. “If the storm passes by 2 p.m., Ebbert said, “we have a few hours to get these people out before dark. It may involve some airlifts.’’

Hurricane Katrina strikes New Orleans at 8:00 AM with winds at 120 MPH and a storm surge of 18 feet. Revised 9/8

As the Category 4 surged ashore just east of New Orleans on Monday, FEMA had medical teams, rescue squads and groups prepared to supply food and water poised in a semicircle around the city, said agency Director Michael Brown.

Brown, in a telephone interview with The Associated Press, said the evacuation of the city and the general emergency response were working as planned in an exercise a year ago. “I was impressed with the evacuation, once it was ordered it was very smooth.”

Levee break at 17th street floods about 20% of the city.

At 11:00 AM, FEMA Director Brown arrives in Baton Rouge at the State Office of Emergency Preparedness.

Afternoon

FEMA Director Brown sends a memo to DHS Secretary Chertoff requesting the additonal 1,000 FEMA employees engaged in victims assistance (aiding residents in filling out disaster relief forms) and community outreach be dispatched to Louisiana. Brown indicates that the employees have two days to report to LA Homeland Security headquarters. Revised 9/7

FEMA issues a statement urging first responders from other states not to come to disaster area unless there’s coordination between state and local disaster management officials. Revised 9/6

At 1:30 PM, boil order goes into effect for water.

At 1:45 PM, President Bush declares the states of Louisiana and Mississippi “Major Disaster Areas.”

Midafternoon: First reports of looting. TP terms it “widespread.”

At midafternoon Monday, a parade of looters streamed from Coleman’s Retail Store at 4001 Earhart Blvd. The looters, men and women who appeared to be in their early teens to mid-40s, braved a steady rain and infrequent tropical-stormforce winds to tote away boxes of clothing and shoes from the store.

By 2:00 PM, “Wes McDermott, from the office of emergency preparedness in New Orleans, said officials have fielded at least 100 calls from people in distress in the Lower 9th Ward and eastern New Orleans.”

At 3:00 PM President Bush said in a speech in Arizona “the federal government has got assets and resources that we’ll be deploying to help you.”

At 3:00 PM, Director Ebbett said “Everybody who had a way or wanted to get out of the way of this storm was able to. For some that didn’t, it was their last night on this earth.’’ He also said that the city had 100 boats to carry out search and rescue operations.

At 3:45 PM Louisiana Federal Emergency Management Agency Director Michael Brown said this afternoon that it’s too early to give an estimate on damage in New Orleans, because he is unable to get a team into downtown. The water level in St. Bernard Parish had reached the second story of the courthouse. Revised 9/8

By 5:00 PM, hundreds of reports are coming in of people trapped by the flood.

At 6:50 PM, more reports of looting.

Evening

Search and Rescue teams work through the night to bring people to safety.

[Wildlife Secretary] Landreneau said by dawn he will have more than 200 boats in the water, 120 more than he had Monday. He said he has a commitment from Texas for another 50 boats.

Red Cross issues a statement. Expects largest recovery operation ever:

American Red Cross spokesman Victor Howell said 750 to 1,000 Red Cross personnel are now at work on hurricane recovery in Louisiana, and 2,000 more volunteers will be here in the next few days.

The Red Cross will bring in three large mobile kitchens to prepare 500,000 meals per day. There are 40 shelters statewide, housing about 32,000 people, “and you’re going to have more,” Howell said.

Mayor Nagin, in an interview with TP relates a conversation with federal disaster officials. “FEMA said give us a list of your needs,” said Nagin, referring to the Federal Emergency Management Agency. “And let me tell you, we’re giving them a hell of a list.”

TUESDAY, AUGUST 30

Morning

Overnight, New Orleans city officials consider whether or not to use the Ernest E. Morial Convention Center as an additional refuge for survivors:

City officials said they might open the Ernest N. Morial Convention Center as a temporary refuge to shelter an estimated 50,000 people made homeless by the storm.

This is the first mention by city officials of using the Convention Center, a shelter not listed in the Comprehensive Emergency Management Plan nor listed in any other public statements as a place of refuge for residents. As of 9/7, there is no evidence city officials ever told FEMA or LA Homeland Security officials that they planned to use the Center to house evacuees. Revised 9/7

My Way News reports 4725 LA National Guardsmen deployed on Tuesday. Revised 9/6

DHS Secretary Michael Chertoff activates the National Response Plan and declares Katrina an “incident of national significance”:

The National Response Plan (NRP) fully mobilizes the resources of the entire federal government to support response and recovery efforts for state and local authorities – particularly in the event of a catastrophic incident. Secretary Chertoff has declared the devastation caused by Hurricane Katrina an incident of national significance – the first-ever use of this designation. Revised 9/7

Water continues to rise with officials at a loss how to explain it.

It is announced that 500 “special needs patients” at the Superdome will be moved by the end of the day “by whatever means necessary.” Also, Director Landenreau says that 350 boats are in the water looking for trapped residents with 60 more on the way from Texas.

By midmorning it is confirmed that 4 people have died at the Superdome; 3 sick patients and one probable suicide.

Prisoner evacuation from two jails begins.

President’s statement on Katrina devastation.

In an interview with Hugh Hewitt on 9/7, Fox News Correspondent Major Garrett reports that the American Red Cross was ready to go to the Superdome “on Monday or Tuesday” to assist in the relief of the 25,000 people who had taken refuge there but were prevented by the Louisiana Department of Homeland Security from doing so. According to Garrett and this FAQ at the Red Cross website, the reason given was because their presence “would keep people from evacuating and encourage others to come into the city.” Revised 9/8

At the request of FEMA, the military begins to move additional ships and helicopters to the region. (HT: Jay) Revised 9/6

TP evacuates - moves to Houma.

In an interview with Tim Russert on 9/4, DHS Secretary Chertoff reveals that the first he heard of the 17th street levee break was “midday on Tuesday.” Revised 9/8

Pentagon spokesman Di Rita issues statement saying “the states have adequate National Guard units to handle the hurricane needs, with at least 60 percent of the guard available in each state. He said about 6,500 National Guard troops were available in Louisiana, about 7,000 troops in Mississippi, nearly 10,000 in Alabama and about 8,200 in Florida.

At 4:30 PM, officials send out a call for anyone with boats to help in the rescue effort.

TP reports that police and firefighters are joining in the looting:

At the Wal-Mart on Tchoupitoulas Street, an initial effort to hand out provisions to stranded citizens quickly disintegrated into mass looting. Authorities at the scene said bedlam erupted after the giveaway was announced over the radio.

While many people carried out food and essential supplies, others cleared out jewelry racks and carted out computers, TVs and appliances on handtrucks.

Some officers joined in taking whatever they could, including one New Orleans cop who loaded a shopping cart with a compact computer and a 27-inch flat screen television. (Um…read the whole thing. You won’t believe it. Ed.)

Director Ebbert announces that work has begun to plug the 17th street levee. (Note: Work on plugging the levee did not begin at this time. It is unclear whether he was told that it was beginning or whether he assumed it was from a conversation with the Army Corps of Engineers who said work would begin that afternoon. Ed.)

Levee repair timeline uncertain. This from National Guard Commander Jeff Smith:

Col. Jeff Smith with the Louisiana National Guard said the Corps has informed the state that they are beginning to plan how exactly to fill the holes in the levee, which observers described as several hundred feet long.

Ebbert says work has started. Smith says work has started on planning. This would be a possible explanation for both Ebbert and the Mayor’s frustration. Could they have misunderstood?

Also, hospitals are being evacuated and rescue operations continue. The Governor made it clear that search and rescue was the highest priority:

Blanco said that while search and rescue operations continued that officials were also getting supplies to hospitals and people who sought refuge at the Superdome, which is receiving more residents as people are rescued. After officials have completed all of their rescue operations, they will begin to assess how to evacuate other people in the city who are in high, dry locations.

People being rescued and others looking for food and water are told to go to the Convention Center by local officials. When they get there they find no food, no water, and just a few police. (First mention of Convention Center shelter by TP at 11:09 PM on Wednesday)

A man in a passing pickup truck from the state Department of Wildlife and Fisheries finally directed Wallace and the 50 other evacuees under the overpass to the convention center.

But they would find little relief there.

New evacuees were being dropped off after being pulled from inundated eastern New Orleans and Carrollton, pooling with those who arrived on foot. Some had been at the convention center since Tuesday morning but had received no food, water or instructions. They waited both inside and outside the cavernous building.

The influx overwhelmed the few staffers and Louisiana National Guardsmen on hand. Added 9/5.

Afternoon

At 5:50 PM Bush announces he is cutting short his vacation and returning to Washington.

As of Tuesday, less than 24 hours after the storm had passed over the area, this represented the federal response to date as publicized to the disaster. Here are some highlights: Revised 9/8

FEMA deployed 23 Disaster Medical Assistance Teams from all across the U.S. to staging areas in Alabama, Tennessee, Texas, and Louisiana and is now moving them into impacted areas.

Seven Urban Search and Rescue task forces and two Incident Support Teams have been deployed and propositioned in Shreveport, La., and Jackson, Miss., including teams from Florida, Indiana, Ohio, Maryland, Missouri, Tennessee, Texas, and Virginia. Three more Urban Search and Rescue teams are in the process of deployment.

FEMA is moving supplies and equipment into the hardest hit areas as quickly as possible, especially water, ice, meals, medical supplies, generators, tents, and tarps.

The U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) dispatched more than 390 trucks that are beginning to deliver millions of meals ready to eat, millions of liters of water, tarps, millions of pounds of ice, mobile homes, generators, containers of disaster supplies, and forklifts to flood damaged areas. DOT has helicopters and a plane assisting delivery of essential supplies.

The National Guard of the four most heavily impacted states are providing support to civil authorities as well as generator, medical and shelter with approximately 7,500 troops on State Active Duty. The National Guard is augmenting civilian law enforcement capacity; not acting in lieu of it.

At 6:30 PM Mayor Nagin issued an urgent bulletin:

Nagin said efforts to stop the flow of water at the breach on the 17th Street Canal are failing, which means the floodwaters will rise again.

Nagin said the waters will soon overwhelm the pump, shutting it down. He said the water will rise to 3 feet above sea level – or 12-15 feet in some places of east Jefferson and Orleans parishes.

The additional flooding causes 80% of the city to be underwater.

At 8:10 PM, TP reports that more than 24 hours after it started, looting is now city wide.

“People are leaving the Superdome to go to Canal Street to loot,” Thomas said. “Some people broke into drug stores and stole the drugs off the shelves. It is looting times five. I’m telling you, it’s like Sodom and Gomorrah.”

At 8:55 TP reports that the Army Corps of Engineers is working frantically to try and fix the breach in the 17th street levee.

Mark Lambert, chief spokesman for the agency, said that a convoy of trucks carrying 108 15,000-pound concrete barriers – like those used as highway construction dividers—was en route to the site Tuesday night

The USS Bataan deploys two helicopter squadrons for search and rescue operations in New Orleans. Revised 9/6

At 9:02 PM TP reports that the State Attorney General’s office is denying that martial law has been declared.

At 10:40 PM TP reports that 40 additional state troopers have been deployed more than 28 hours after initial reports of looting.

At 10:15 PM, Governor Blanco releases a statement calling for the evacuation of the Superdome.

She set no timetable for the withdrawal but insisted that the facility was damaged, degrading and no longer able to support the local citizens who had sought refuge in the Dome from Hurricane Katrina.

“It’s a very, very desperate situation,” Blanco said late Tuesday after returning to the capital from her visit, when she comforted the exhausted throngs of people, many of whom checked in over the weekend. “It’s imperative that we get them out. The situation is degenerating rapidly.”

WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 31

Morning

My Way News reports an additional 700 National Guardsmen from TX, OH, and OK are deployed in LA. Revised 9/6

“Early Aug. 31, an MC-130P Combat Shadow from Hurlburt’s 16th Special Operations Squadron flew a team of combat controllers to the New Orleans airport to set up lights which would allow reopening the runway for nighttime operations. The airport has no electrical power.” Revised 9/6

Governor Blanco called for a total evacuation of the city of New Orleans.

In an interview on Good Morning America, the Governor said “We’ve sent buses in. We will be either loading them by boat, helicopter, anything that is necessary.”

When asked about looting the Governor said “We don’t like looters one bit, but first and foremost is search and rescue.”

Blanco said she wanted the Superdome — which had become a shelter of last resort for about 20,000 people — evacuated within two days, along with other gathering points for storm refugees. The situation inside the dank and sweltering Superdome was becoming desperate: The water was rising, the air conditioning was out, toilets were broken, and tempers were rising.

Governor Blanco asks the President to send federal troops to conduct law enforcement activities.

At 10:00 AM TP reports that a spokesperson for the Texas Governors office says refugees from the Superdome will be put up in the Astrodome:

FEMA is providing 475 buses for the convoy and the Astrodome’s schedule has been cleared through December for housing evacuees, a spokeswoman for Texas Gov. Rick Perry said.

A spokseman for Homeland Security:

Mark Smith, a Louisiana Department of Homeland Security spokesman, said 3,000 Louisiana National Guard members are helping with the rescue effort and that more guard troops are on their way from other states. The main focus Wednesday morning is to evacuate patients from hospitals and to evacuate the Superdome, where conditions are deteriorating for the estimated 15,000 people sheltered there. (HT: Blueguitar guy) Revised 9/6

Yahoo News:

Gov. Kathleen Blanco said she has asked the White House to send more people to help with evacuations and rescues, thereby freeing up National Guardsmen to stop looters.

“We will restore law and order,” Blanco said. “What angers me the most is that disasters like this often bring out the worst in people. I will not tolerate this kind of behavior.”

Afternoon

Governor Blanco announces that Superdome evacuation will begin Wednesday evening.

Department of Social Services Secretary Ann Williamson said the buses should start rolling later Wednesday. About 475 vehicles have been arranged to ferry the evacuees to Houston.

State officials said they hope that bringing in the Army to help with search, rescue and relief efforts will allow National Guard troops to redirect their efforts to restoring order and curtail the widespread looting taking place in New Orleans and elsewhere. “We’re trying to shift our resources,” said Denise Bottcher, a Blanco spokeswoman.

“This is one of the largest, if not the largest evacuations in this country,” said Col. Jeff Smith, deputy director of the Louisiana Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness.

“This (plan) buys us some time so we can figure things out,” said FEMA spokesman Bill Lokey.

At 1:40 PM State Secrertary of Transportation and Development Johnny Bradberry said Lake Pontchatrain has receded by two feet since yesterday as water levels equalized between the lake and the flooded city interior.

“The good news here is that we’ve stabilized. Water is not rising in the city,” Bradberry said.

The feds declare a Public Health Emergency:

HHS Secretary Mike Leavitt Wednesday declared a federal public health emergency and accelerated efforts to create up to 40 emergency medical shelters to provide care for evacuees and victims of Hurricane Katrina.

Working with its federal partners, HHS is helping provide and staff 250 beds in each shelter for a total of 10,000 beds for the region. Ten of these facilities will be staged within the next 72 hours and another 10 will be deployed within the next 100 hours after that. In addition, HHS is deploying up to 4,000 medically-qualified personnel to staff these facilities and to meet other health care needs in this region.

Mayor Ray Nagin ordered 1,500 police – or however many officers were still on the force – to leave their search-and-rescue mission Wednesday night and return to the streets of New Orleans to stop looting. Revised 9/8

Governor Blanco issues an Executive Order allowing the National Guard to seize school busses in order to help in the evacuation:

National Guard spokesman Lt. Col. Pete Schneider, said the order, signed by Gov. Kathleen Blanco late Wednesday, means “we are going to take the buses. We need to get people out of New Orleans.. . . .Either they will give them up or we will take them.’’ It is unclear whether the Governor is referring to the hundreds of school busses in a New Orleans city parking lot 1.2 miles from the Superdome that contained 255 busses, all underwater. She was also procuring busses from around the state. In an press conference the next day, General Honore says that busses from FEMA have also arrived. (HT: Tony & Junkyard Blog) Revised 9/6

THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 1

Morning

My Way News reports 6500 National Guardsmen from AR, CO, KS, MO, NV, OH, OK, and TX are deployed in Louisiana. Revised 9/6

At 12:30 AM evacuees from the Superdome begin arriving in Houston.

Col. Pete Schneider of the Louisiana National Guard said this morning that the evacuation of the rest of New Orleans was in full swing. At least 70 buses had picked up refugees from the Superdome, and officials were considering using trains and boats to ship people to safety.

At 4:15 AM TP reports that the Coast Guard says it has rescued 3,000 stranded victims from the city.

President Bush calls for “zero tolerance” for looters or price gougers in an interview with Diane Sawyer.

More snafus in attempts to fix the levee at 17th street:

Spokeswoman Cleo Allen of the state Department of Transportation and Development said the agency is coordinating with railroads and the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to raise the Seabrook bridge, the Almonaster Ave. bridge and the Danziger Road bridge. Farther southwest, authorities are also trying to raise a bridge at Larose so that a barge loaded with relief supplies can get through Bayou Lafourche.

More National Guard troops on the way:

Lt. Col Pete Schneider of the Louisiana National Guard also said 7,500 guard soldiers from around the country are en route to Louisiana to complement the 3,000 from Louisiana who have been helping with search and rescue operations and security since Katrina struck on Monday.

President Bush agrees to have the federal government pick up the entire tab for relief efforts.

In an interview with NPR’s Michael Seigel, DHS Secretary Chertoff admits he knows nothing of the people stranded at the convention center. Revised 9/6

Afternoon

Governor Blanco announces at a press conference that there are less than 2400 people left at the Superdome.

The Defense Department announces the deployment of an additional 30,000 troops to the Gulf region.

State and Federal authorities begin the evacuations of Charity and University Hospitals. They are halted briefly when shots are fired at helicopters evacuating patients.

In an article on Thursday afternoon, Brian Thevenot of TP reports that officials are starting to get control of the city.

As military and humantarian efforts finally began to take hold, the anarchy that has consumed New Orleans over the past two days, making the city resemble a Third World war zone, had not fully subsided but authorities appeared to have amassed sufficient numbers to seize the upper hand.

Neighborhoods that had been populated by bands of wanderers and armed thieves looked nearly empty, save for police patrols that were non-existent a day earlier. In Uptown, the Central Business District and the French Quarter, substantially smaller crowds of refugees and potential looters found themselves surrounded by ever increasing numbers of National Guard troops and police officers.

Mayor Nagin explodes on live radio, railing against federal relief efforts. If you’ve come this far with me, all I ask is that you read his comments and compare them to what has been reported in this timeline previously.

“You know the reason why the looters got out of control?” Nagin said. “We have most of our resources saving people. They were stuck in attics, man, old ladies. You pull off the doggone ventilator and look down and they’re standing there in water up to their fricking neck.”

“I need reinforcements,” he said. “I need troops, man. I need 500 buses.”

The relief efforts made so far had been pathetically insufficient, Nagin said.

“They’re thinking small, man, and this is a major, MAJOR deal,” Nagin said. “God is looking down on this and if they are not doing everything in their power to save people, they are going to pay the price. Every day that we delay, people are dying, and they’re dying by the hundreds, I’m willing to bet you.”

Rolling now, Nagin described distress calls he’d heard. Nagin mocked the efforts to block the 17th Street
Canal breach.

“I flew over that thing yesterday and it was in the same shape it was in after the storm hit,” he said.
“There is nothing happening there. They’re feeding the public a line of bull and they’re spinning and people are dying down here.” (HT: Ghosty) Revised 9/6 – moved from Friday to Thursday.

In an interview with Paula Zahn, FEMA Director Brown says he just heard about people stranded at the convention center “a few hours ago.” Revised 9/6

FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 2

My Way News reports that an additional 3000 National Guardsmen from 15 states are deployed in LA. Revised 9/6

In the early morning, 20 deputies and six emergency medical technicians from Loudon County, Virginia were turned away because “neither FEMA nor the Louisiana authorities was willing to act on the request from Jefferson Parish.” (HT: Jay) Revised 9/6

At 9:35 AM in a speech given in Mississippi, the President praises FEMA Director Brown saying “Brownie, you’re doing a heck of a job.”

State Rep. Karen Carter, D-New Orleans, made an urgent plea Friday morning for gasoline and buses to ferry victims to safety who have been stuck in New Orleans under deteriorating conditions since Hurricane Katrina struck the city four days ago.

“If you want to save a life get a bus down here,” said Carter, whose district includes the French Quarter. “I’m asking the American people to help save a wonderful American city.” Her voice cracking with emotion and her eyes bloodshot from fatigue and distress, Carter said pledges of money and other assistance are of secondary importance right now to the urgent need for transportation.

“Don’t give me your money. Don’t send me $10 million today. Give me buses and gas. Buses and gas. Buses and gas,” she said. “If you have to commandeer Greyhound, commandeer Greyhound. … If you donn’t get a bus, if we don’t get them out of there, they will die.”

Lt. Gen. Steven Blum, who is coordinating federal relief efforts on behalf of the National Guard, could not say when people can expect to be rescued. “If you’re human you’ve got to be affected by it, Blum said. “These people, their heartstrings are torn as are yours. (But) the magnitude of this problem is you cannot help everybody at the same time.”

The Coast Guard announced it has rescued more than 4,000 victims of the hurricane and flood.

President Bush visits New Orleans, taking a helicopter tour with Mayor Nagin. According to the Mayor Bush tells him that “he [the President] was fully committed to getting us the resources we need,” Nagin said in the tattered Hyatt hotel next to the Superdome. “I told him I knew we could work together, and he said he understood.”

In an interview with CNN on 9/5, Mayor Nagin says that Governor Blanco resisted a request from the Federal government to nationalize the relief effort when meeting with President Bush aboard Air Force I. Blanco is reported to have asked for 24 hours to “think about it.” (HT: Sue Hanley) Revised 9/6

In a special briefing on efforts to repair the damaged levees carried out by Lieutenant General Carl Strock, Commander, U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, and Chief of Engineers, the General summarized the difficulties he was experiencing in closing the breaches, including the difficulty in reaching the site of the breach by land (land ops couldn’t start until a causeway was built), by water (bridges couldn’t be raised to allow for the huge cranes to pass), and air (helicopters were being used to rescue people). Revised 9/7

Nickdfresh
09-09-2005, 09:25 AM
Wow, you found a totally partisan timeline full of bullshit play by play commentary from a right wing blog with NO SOURCES listed. At least FORD used previous articles derived from actual newspapers BUSH "cocksucker." LMAO

Vinnie Velvet
09-09-2005, 09:34 AM
I always thought there was a difference between being a Right Wing Republican and being a BUSH COCKSUCKER.

Have a nice day.

:)

scorpioboy33
09-09-2005, 10:29 AM
Originally posted by ELVIS
Much to my suprise, I am very well liked by the ladies...:D

are you talking about the imaginary ones you're dating or the escorts you pay for

Guitar Shark
09-09-2005, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by rustoffa
http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=688528

LOL!

They could at least spell "Louisiana" correctly.

ELVIS
09-09-2005, 11:38 AM
Somebody on this board spells it like that...

scorpioboy33
09-09-2005, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by ELVIS
BTW, I currently have three girlfriends...

One white, two black...


I'm no racist...:D



:elvis:
!

scorpioboy33
09-09-2005, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by ELVIS
BTW, I currently have three girlfriends...

One white, two black...


I'm no racist...:D



:elvis:
!

Originally posted by ELVIS
BTW, two of them, I have never slept with...

Yet...


:elvis:

just curious supa christian boy...so you're a fornicater :O

ELVIS
09-09-2005, 02:34 PM
Oh my, I'm a sinner !!

:eek:

Warham
09-09-2005, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by Guitar Shark
LOL!

They could at least spell "Louisiana" correctly.

They spelled it as if they were residents of New Orleans.

Warham
09-09-2005, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by scorpioboy33
!


just curious supa christian boy...so you're a fornicater :O

Your Canadian, but we don't hold that against you.

;)

DrMaddVibe
09-10-2005, 11:53 PM
http://www.thinkprogress.org/katrina-timeline

Here's where the bullshit timeline came from!

Cathedral
09-11-2005, 03:10 AM
The problem with timelines is that they are put together by someone who has a bias one way or the other.

I have been urged to read this timeline 3, maybe 4 times so far and i have to say, I read it a few times.

My conclusion is that just like the other inaccurate timelines being posted and boasted all over creation, It's BULLSHIT!

Not because it is wrong or promoting unfactual information, but because it is incomplete.
It completely lacks an honest point of view of the chain of events.
It's all biased crap that anyone with reading comprehension skills can clearly see.

Actually, Ford made a good point about my discovering the manipulation, covert dishonesty and flat out bold faced lies the Bush Administration is indeed suspect of.
But i also see something else now.
I see all of us have spent time and continue to spend time posting what other people want us to believe.

If you all will notice, and search on it if you like, but i rarely to never post articles, only opinions.
I read a lot of whats posted, and though one would be compelled to laugh, i almost tear up and cry.

Maybe it's because i'm much older now and for some fucked up reason started caring about politics.
But i got way more than i bargained for entering that arena because i meet and get to know so many people that i like, but have grave differences with in political matters.
I have no problem accepting a person's differing views. but i have a problem NOT being accepted for mine.
Don't get me wrong, I don't give a flying fuck what anyone thinks about me, just save the snowballs for sugar high Kool Aider's.

Both sides have a punch bowl, ya know?

Fire them all, Impeach the Chimp, Lame Duck the rest of this term and then find a well educated blue collar guy that just missed his calling to success and see where that gets us.

Put a working man in office, then you'll see change we can all be proud of.
Todays government isn't of the people, it's of people who know nothing about the people it serves.
The best soldiers are the one's who have already been in the trenches, not the one's who never saw a battlefiled before.

Katrina enlightened me on that, and the failure of all government to do what it had to do before the disaster struck is damn near unforgivable, but we have a forgiving God, so.......

But i'm just not interested in having my views and beliefs fed to me by anyone who writes pretty articles, puts together cool looking graphs and charts, pastes together timelines, or looks the best on the tube.