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FORD
09-08-2005, 08:47 AM
This is an open letter to the man sitting behind me at La Paz today, in Nashville, at lunchtime, with the Brooks Brothers shirt:

You don't know me. But I know you.

I watched you as you held hands with your tablemates at the restaurant where we both ate this afternoon. I listened as you prayed, and thanked God for the food you were about to eat, and for your own safety, several hundred miles away from the unfolding catastrophe in New Orleans.

You blessed your chimichanga in the name of Jesus Christ, and then proceeded to spend the better part of your meal – and mine, since I was too near your table to avoid hearing every word – morally scolding the people of that devastated city, heaping scorn on them for not heeding the warnings to leave before disaster struck. Then you attacked them – all of them, without distinction it seemed – for the behavior of a relative handful: those who have looted items like guns, or big screen TVs.

I heard you ask, amid the din of your colleagues "Amens," why it was that instead of pitching in to help their fellow Americans, the people of New Orleans instead – again, all of them in your mind – choose to steal and shoot at relief helicopters.

I watched you wipe salsa from the corners of your mouth, as you nodded agreement to the statement of one of your friends, sitting to your right, her hair neatly coiffed, her makeup flawless, her jewelry sparkling. When you asked, rhetorically, why it was that people were so much more decent amid the tragedy of 9-11, as compared to the aftermath of Katrina, she had offered her response, but only after apologizing for what she admitted was going to sound harsh.

"Well," Buffy explained. "It's probably because in New Orleans, it seems to be mostly poor people, and you know, they just don't have the same regard."

She then added that police should shoot the looters, and should have done so from the beginning, so as to send a message to the rest that theft would not be tolerated. You, who had just thanked Jesus for your chips and guacamole, said you agreed. They should be shot. Praise the Lord.

Your God is one with whom I am not familiar.

Two thoughts.

First, it is a very fortunate thing for you, and likely for me, that my two young children were with me as I sat there, choking back fish tacos and my own seething rage, listening to you pontificate about shit you know nothing about.

Have you ever even been to New Orleans?

And no, by that I don't mean the New Orleans of your company's sales conference. I don't mean Emeril's New Orleans, or the New Orleans of Uptown Mardi Gras parties.

I mean the New Orleans that is buried as if it were Atlantis, in places like the lower 9th ward: 98 percent black, 40 percent poor, where bodies are floating down the street, flowing with the water as it seeks its own level. Have you met the people from that New Orleans? The New Orleans that is dying as I write this, and as you order another sweet tea?

I didn't think so.

Your God – the one to whom you prayed today, and likely do before every meal, because this gesture proves what a good Christian you are – is one with whom I am not familiar.

Your God is one who you sincerely believe gives a flying fuck about your lunch. Your God is one who you seem to believe watches over you and blesses you, and brings good tidings your way, while simultaneously letting thousands of people watch their homes be destroyed, and perhaps ten thousand or more die, many of them in the streets for lack of water or food.

Did you ever stop to think just what a rancid asshole such a God would have to be, such that he would take care of the likes of you, while letting babies die in their mother's arms, and old people in wheelchairs, at the foot of Canal Street?

Your God is one with whom I am not familiar.

But no, it isn't God who's the asshole here, Skip (or Brad, or Braxton, or whatever your name is).

God doesn't feed you, and it isn't God that kept me from turning around and beating your lily white privileged ass today either.

God has nothing to do with it.

God doesn't care who wins the Super Bowl.

God doesn't help anyone win an Academy Award.

God didn't get you your last raise, or your SUV.

And if God is even half as tired as I am of having to listen to self-righteous bastards like you blame the victims of this nightmare for their fate, then you had best eat slowly from this point forward.

Why didn't they evacuate like they were told?

Are you serious?

There were 100,000 people in that city without cars. Folks who are too poor to own their own vehicle, and who rely on public transportation every day. I know this might shock you. They don't have a Hummer2, or whatever gas-guzzling piece of crap you either already own or probably are saving up for.

And no, they didn't just choose not to own a car because the buses are so gosh-darned efficient and great, as Rush Limbaugh implied, and as you likely heard, since you're the kind of person who hangs on the every word of such bloviating hacks as these.

Why did they loot?

Are you serious?

People are dying, in the streets, on live television. Fathers and mothers are watching their baby's eyes bulge in their skulls from dehydration, and you are begrudging them some Goddamned candy bars, diapers and water?

If anything the poor of New Orleans have exercised restraint.

Maybe you didn't know it, but the people of that city with whom you likely identify – the wealthy white folks of Uptown – were barely touched by this storm. Yeah, I guess God was watching over them: protecting them, and rewarding them for their faith and superior morality. If the folks downtown who are waiting desperately for their government to send help – a government whose resources have been stretched thin by a war that I'm sure you support, because you love freedom and democracy – were half as crazed as you think, they'd have marched down St. Charles Avenue and burned every mansion in sight. That they didn’t suggests a decency and compassion for their fellow man and woman that sadly people like you lack.

Can you even imagine what you would do in their place?

Can you imagine what would happen if it were well-off white folks stranded without buses to get them out, without nourishment, without hope?

Putting aside the absurdity of the imagery--after all, such folks always have the means to seek safety, or the money to rebuild, or the political significance to ensure a much speedier response for their concerns – can you just imagine?

Can you imagine what would happen if the pampered, overfed corporate class, which complains about taxes taking a third of their bloated incomes, had to sit in the hot sun for four, going on five days? Without a Margarita or hotel swimming pool to comfort them I mean?

Oh, and please, I know. I'm stereotyping you. Imagine that. I've assumed, based only on your words, what kind of person you are, even though I suppose I could be wrong. How does that feel Biff? Hurt your feelings? So sorry. But hey, at least my stereotypes of you aren't deadly. They won't effect your life one bit, unlike the ones you carry around with you and display within earshot of people like me, supposing that no one could possibly disagree.

But I'm not wrong, am I Chip? I know you. I see people like you all the time, in airports, in business suits, on their lunch breaks. People who will take advantage of any opportunity to ratify and reify their pre-existing prejudices towards the poor, towards black folks. You see the same three video loops of the same dozen or so looters on Fox News and you conclude that poor black people are crazy, immoral, criminal.

You, or others quite a bit like you, are the ones posting messages on chat room boards, calling looters sub-human "vermin," "scum," or "cockroaches." I heard you use the word "animals" three times today: you and that woman across from you – what was her name? Skyler?

What was it you said as you scooped the last bite of black beans and rice into your eager mouth? Like zoo animals? Yes, I think that was it.

Well Chuck, it's a free country, and so you certainly have the right I suppose to continue lecturing the poor, in between checking your Blackberry and dropping the kids off at soccer practice. If you want to believe that the poor of New Orleans are immoral and greedy, and unworthy of support at a time like this – or somehow more in need of your scolding than whatever donation you might make to a relief fund – so be it.

But let's leave God out of it, shall we? All of it.

Your God is one with whom I am not familiar, and I'd prefer to keep it that way.

Tim Wise is the author of White Like Me: Reflections on Race from a Privileged Son (2005: Soft Skull Press). He lived in New Orleans from 1986-1996. He can be reached at timjwise@msn.com.


link (http://www.blackcommentator.com/149/149_think_wise_new_orleans.html)

DrMaddVibe
09-08-2005, 08:55 AM
Typical anti-American behavior from someone that we know has an axe to grind!

ELVIS
09-08-2005, 08:57 AM
Stupid article...

..and yeah, I read the whole thing...


BTW, the looting started before the hurricane even hit!



Oh, and one other thing, God does have his hand in all of this, some way, somehow...

jacksmar
09-08-2005, 09:08 AM
Self-serving cocksucker. Typical hate America first and obviously has a problem with “ one nation under God”.

Don't get me wrong. Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfils the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.

So it goes both ways.

DR CHIP
09-08-2005, 09:19 AM
The article is splattered with half truths used to prop up the ridiculous argument of the writer....that God doesn't really give a rip about everyday affairs....except those that fit with the authors idea of what God should be like....

Sorry Ford, but the Biblical God is concerned about the lunch you eat as well as the starving in New Orleans.....

I am so sick and tired of the lack of any responsibility this country has anymore, the liberal media, the blame games, and the God bashing...

God help us all....

Seshmeister
09-08-2005, 09:22 AM
As I remember according to the Bible god flooded the whole earth because he was in a bad mood only letting an alcholic and his family survive.

As Elvis says if you believe that then you should believe that god maybe had a hangover or was bored or just maybe hates Americans and decided to kill some of them.

Floods are one of his favorite smiting tools, and the guy had the means, motive and opportunity to do it...


Cheers!

:gulp:

ELVIS
09-08-2005, 09:29 AM
"Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before Me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen"

Ezekiel 16:49-50


:elvis:

FORD
09-08-2005, 09:33 AM
Originally posted by ELVIS
"Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before Me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen"

Ezekiel 16:49-50


:elvis:

Sounds like God hit the wrong end of town if that's the basis.

But it's good that you dragged this verse out, because it's proof that God didn't nuke Sodom & Gommorrah because of "Adam & Steve".

Seshmeister
09-08-2005, 09:34 AM
Originally posted by ELVIS
"Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before Me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen"

Ezekiel 16:49-50


:elvis:

Exactly.

Nothing improves God's mood more than drowning a few thousand black babies.

Word on the street is that he's a bit of a nasty cunt...

DrMaddVibe
09-08-2005, 09:37 AM
Did Kanye West state God hates black people yet?

FORD
09-08-2005, 09:39 AM
Originally posted by Seshmeister
As I remember according to the Bible god flooded the whole earth because he was in a bad mood only letting an alcholic and his family survive.



Does that mean you're applying for the next Ark ? ;)

Seshmeister
09-08-2005, 09:40 AM
A cheap shot I fully expected.

Well done for beating Brian to the draw...:)

DrMaddVibe
09-08-2005, 09:43 AM
Cheap shot?

Seshmeister
09-08-2005, 09:45 AM
Looks pretty rough...:)

I like how it says "The worlds finest rye" on it...

Angel
09-08-2005, 06:42 PM
Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
Did Kanye West state God hates black people yet?

Why would he? God's son is black for crying out loud.

But as for Bush? Yes, he's made it quite obvious - but it's not blacks he hates, its poor people.

Warham
09-08-2005, 06:51 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Sounds like God hit the wrong end of town if that's the basis.

But it's good that you dragged this verse out, because it's proof that God didn't nuke Sodom & Gommorrah because of "Adam & Steve".

No, that was only part of the problem.

Jesus Christ
09-08-2005, 06:54 PM
Originally posted by Angel
Why would he? God's son is black for crying out loud.

But as for Bush? Yes, he's made it quite obvious - but it's not blacks he hates, its poor people.

I'm not really Black. Though I have no problem with the paintings which depict Me as such. I'm also not the blonde, blue-eyed guy in the Mormon church paintings, though they do not offendeth Me either.

Let's just say that as with most Mediterranean Jews, I had a very good suntan :cool:

Angel
09-09-2005, 12:27 PM
Originally posted by Jesus Christ
I'm not really Black. Though I have no problem with the paintings which depict Me as such. I'm also not the blonde, blue-eyed guy in the Mormon church paintings, though they do not offendeth Me either.

Let's just say that as with most Mediterranean Jews, I had a very good suntan :cool:

I thought of that last night, JC. Of course, you have that wonderful "olive" tone and those dark eyes... "Arabic" some would call it. ;)

ELVIS
09-09-2005, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Sounds like God hit the wrong end of town if that's the basis.

But it's good that you dragged this verse out, because it's proof that God didn't nuke Sodom & Gommorrah because of "Adam & Steve".

"Adam & Steve" according to the bible falls under the description of "detestable...

BigBadBrian
09-09-2005, 01:08 PM
Originally posted by Angel
I thought of that last night, JC. Of course, you have that wonderful "olive" tone and those dark eyes... "Arabic" some would call it. ;)

I'd call it Jewish. Jesus was a Jew you dumb cunt.

:rolleyes:

Angel
09-09-2005, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
I'd call it Jewish. Jesus was a Jew you dumb cunt.

:rolleyes:

Jewish is a religion, idiot.

Jesus was a Jewish Arab. There are Muslim Arabs, Jewish Arabs, Christian Arabs, etc...

:rolleyes:

ELVIS
09-09-2005, 02:32 PM
I'm not so sure Jesus was an Arab...

Angel
09-09-2005, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by ELVIS
I'm not so sure Jesus was an Arab...

Nobody knows just what he was ethnically though, do they? However, pretty much guaranteed he wasn't white. If you go strictly by the geographical area, what else would you describe him as?

ELVIS
09-09-2005, 02:48 PM
Jewish...

Angel
09-09-2005, 03:02 PM
Again, that's a religion. What is his ethnicity?

DLR'sCock
09-09-2005, 03:04 PM
Did you know that there is no genetic difference at the DNA level between Palestinian Arabs, and Israeli Jews...

BigBadBrian
09-09-2005, 03:17 PM
Originally posted by DLR'sCock
Did you know that there is no genetic difference at the DNA level between Palestinian Arabs, and Israeli Jews...

True.

So Jesus was a Jew, not an Arab. Told you so Angel.

:p

Warham
09-09-2005, 03:51 PM
Jesus was crucified for being 'King of the Jews'. That's what his crime was, according to the placard above his head on the cross. It was typical for the Romans to put the crime you were crucified for on a placard above your head.

Seshmeister
09-09-2005, 06:13 PM
Originally posted by ELVIS
"Adam & Steve" according to the bible falls under the description of "detestable...

But only in the crazy book with the other mad stuff in it.

You like shellfish?

DLR'sCock
09-09-2005, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
True.

So Jesus was a Jew, not an Arab. Told you so Angel.

:p



hmmmmm you missed the point completely....

DrMaddVibe
09-09-2005, 07:22 PM
Look a chicken!

FORD
09-09-2005, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
Look a chicken! http://www.e53.org/gatsby/archives/bush_kfc.jpg

DrMaddVibe
09-09-2005, 07:33 PM
Unlimited coke???

I am soooo there!

Fuck you cocksucker Ford!