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Hardrock69
09-19-2005, 12:26 PM
When Presidents Bush and Fox and Martin had their secret meeting in Crawford, TX in March 2005 in secret, they laid out the amalgamation of Canada, US and Mexico that will be followed by the absorption of the CAFTA countries forming a single state of North America. The agreement was signed without the consent of the government and the peoples of these three countries. In fact, 99% of them do not know such a secret agreement exists.

Among elitists these regulations, not exposed to Congress or the people, are called a tri-national merger or NAFTA Plus or the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America. Your national media did not tell you about this did they? Congresses are not rubber stamping global, expansionist goals so the illuminists are using regulations and executive decrees and orders to circumvent elected representatives and the people. The legwork is being done by NGOs (non-Governmental Organizations) via funding from foundations and think tanks controlled and used as conduits for elitists goals.

In the process the US will be the big winner with cheap labor, control of commodities and monopolies. We can promise you the expansion of globalization has nothing to do with security. The US is not only after Canada's oil, gas and minerals, but also its water. The transnational corporations existing in Canada and Mexico would have unrestricted access to the US market. The big winners are international conglomerates and a government bent on destroying our sovereignty and safety. In the final analysis the joining will not be equal.

Needless to say our media tells us nothing negative about NAFTA. We only hear the positive propaganda. The US was inundated by illegal aliens and our balance of trade deficit with Mexico and Canada has skyrocketed. The biggest losers are the Mexicans, particularly the poor, uneducated and farmers. They face greater unemployment and poverty and inequality. The rich in Mexico got richer. Few jobs in 11 years have been created in Mexico. You either become an illegal alien, join the black economy or become a criminal. It is amazing how little crime there is in Mexico considering the circumstances. In four years Vincente Fox has not created one new job. He has been a spectacular loser for the people and that is why socialist Mr. Lopez Obrador, former Mayor of Mexico City, will be the next president. That is if US elitists do not assassinate him like they did Donaldo.

The biggest goal of NAFTA Plus is not only regional government and eventually world government, but also to take America down to the level of a second world nation. Through amalgamation and a standard of living 50% or more less, Americans will accept anything.

9/11 and the security measures put in place, which included trade, took on crisis proportions especially with Canada and that is when one of the neocon think tanks came up with the idea of taking steps to erase the border by harmonizing its policies, laws, norms, etc. and most important intelligence and security measures to American standards. Canada had to show it was secure to eliminate the border. The deal was that with open borders the US would have unrestricted access to Canada's natural resources. This plan is now well advanced. Underway already are harmonization of military and homeland security and global security. Effectively that makes Canada's enforcement subservient to US elitist interests.

In the case of Mexico, Fox proposed letting as many Mexicans as possible into the US so they can stay there and work and sent $16.8 billion annually home to Mexico. Part of the deal was for Mexico to militarize its southern border to keep out illegal aliens, most of who were on their way to the US. We are told part of the deal was to privatize Pemex, the country's nationalized oil company and the CFE, the Federal Electricity Commission.

Canada for years has allowed the US immigration to operate directly on its territory to check passengers headed into the US. Now agents will gain jurisdiction and authority to operate within Mexico. Such a program has begun from Cancun and Mexico City to the US. If an undesirable is spotted they are not allowed to enter the US. Mexican lawyers call this a legal non-competence of US agents that violates Mexican jurisdiction and sovereignty. It constitutes a crime subject to penal action under Mexican law. Obviously that does not bother Mr. Fox and PAN.

US elitists have every intention of sucking Mexico?s oil reserves dry in 12 years. They want to access the abundant natural gas and silver and also a vast fresh water reserve in the State of Chiapas.

CAFTA and NAFTA Plus are additional ways of moving toward FTAA - Free Trade Area of the Americas. Looting of Canada and Mexico is very important to US elitists; because they say otherwise the US cannot survive. This will be accomplished with massive cash payoffs to Mexico and Canada, which the Fed will print up on demand. Previously, enormous amounts of cash were sent to Ireland, Portugal, Spain and Greece, when they joined the EU. The same will happen in Mexico.

FTAA and the creation of one region in the Americas is being ramroded by the Canadian Council of Chief Executives, the Mexican Council of International Affairs and the Council on Foreign Relations in the US. Their plan is to immediately create a unified North American Border Action Plan. Create institutions necessary to sustain a North American Community. Adopt a "Common" external tariff. Stimulate growth in Mexico. Develop a North American energy and natural resource security strategy and finally deepen educational ties.

This past June the three nationals signed 300 regulations that contain the standardization of policies for monitoring travelers and goods moving from third countries, including systems for visa clearance, categorization of high-risk travelers and trustworthy travelers, and the future implementation of a smart card for those wanting to transit swiftly through common borders of the region.

The citizens of all three countries are being sold down the river. The US and Mexico already have been injured so that elitist interest could get ever richer. Listen to this. Only 10% of the Mexican populace has benefited from NAFTA. The 10% makes over $1,000 a month. That indicates the real winners are from within the top 2% of the population. That is two million people out of 102 million were able to profit in a big way from NAFTA.

Citizens of all three countries are being deceived. What is next is a customs union and labor that can travel from one country to another. Next is the new single currency for the Americas, the "AMERO" This will destroy the sovereignty of all three countries. It effectively will give the elitist bankers at the Federal Reserve control over all the wealth of the Americas.


http://news.goldseek.com/InternationalForecaster/1126018849.php

Nitro Express
09-19-2005, 01:28 PM
Some of the article above but the big plan isn't exactly working as planned. The unchecked border could blow into a civil war situation. States like Montana and Wyoming very well could join up with Canadians states like Alberta because culturally the people are simular. The southwest could just become part of Mexico if more pro Mexicans move in. Quebec wants to split from Canada anyways. Southern Mexico wants to be it's own country. No, I think NAFTA is failing. I never needed a passport to get into Mexico before, now I do. Yeah, some open border.

No the United States will split into two or three sepparate countries, Canada will do the same and Mexico may split. The United States as we know it will get smaller.

Angel
09-19-2005, 02:41 PM
What a pile of BS! For one thing, we don't have a president, for another - Martin is NOT the Governor General....

NITRO: Canada will not be splitting. Quebec won't seperate, and if they do, they'll get gobbled up by the US.

Hardrock69
09-19-2005, 02:47 PM
Personally I feel the above IS possible eventually.

Look at the European Union.
We are one step away from something stupid like that.

Nitro Express
09-19-2005, 03:19 PM
Politicians can make borders but the borders never work if they don't take language, education, economic and cultural issues into consideration. Canada and the US are very different from Mexico. Canadians and Americans are higher educated, richer, speak a differenct language, and are culturally different. That is why Mexicans don't assimulate well into our society. Some do but most don't. It will never work because of this reason.

FORD
09-19-2005, 04:45 PM
The Republic of Cascadia (http://zapatopi.net/cascadia/)

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Independence Now!

Warham
09-19-2005, 04:46 PM
Ridiculous.

FORD
09-19-2005, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by Warham
Ridiculous.

Which one?

Cascadia, or the United Fascist Dependedncies of PNAC?

Nitro Express
09-19-2005, 07:05 PM
Cascadia is probably a real possibility. Those areas are politically and culturally on the same level. I'm not really into that kind of liberalism so I'm for combining Alberta, Montana, Idaho, and Wyoming into a simular country. Alberta and Wyoming oil fields will give us economic clout. The Mexicans can have Utah. LOL!

Hardrock69
09-19-2005, 10:40 PM
I personally think Texas should secede from the Union and become it's own country.

Actually, I think I am going to declare the 5 acres I own to be a Sovereign State, independant of the United States.

I will declare WAR on the United States, and when they send 40 Armored Divisions to my address to do battle, I will surrender and apply for billions in Foreign Aid!

:D

Loki
09-19-2005, 10:45 PM
thine great babylonian empire hath rotted from the inside. thine end is near fools. huzzah.

Mr. Vengeance
10-22-2005, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by Nitro Express
Montana and Wyoming very well could join up with Canadians states like Alberta .

Canada has provinces, not states.

franksters
10-22-2005, 08:18 PM
quebec will never be part of the u.s. and if canada wants to join the usa and mexico, this will be the moment quebec becomes a country...

Unchainme
10-23-2005, 12:14 AM
Auctually this could have happened hundreds of years before. The U.S. Constition included a part that said the U.S. would accept no more staes for a while, unless canada decided to join the us. And we did capture Mexico during Texas's battle for independence, and we could have auctually had Texas and Mexico. So The Idea of The US, Canada and mexico merging isn't new.

franksters
10-23-2005, 09:20 AM
btw Canada kicked usa ass out of our land long long time ago, and if im not mistaking we even burned the white house or something like that!

:)

Unchainme
10-23-2005, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by franksters
btw Canada kicked usa ass out of our land long long time ago, and if im not mistaking we even burned the white house or something like that!

:)

I thought that was the British.

WACF
10-23-2005, 01:59 PM
24 September 1814

British and Canadian troops recross the American border at Lake Champlain, after a failed attempt to capture Plattsburg, N.Y.


http://www.warmuseum.ca/cwm/tih/xml/9-24-e.xml

I quoted that particular nuget just to show you that Canada did indeed have military units back then.
Yes, we were a British Colony but actual Canadian's existed.

Why is it that some people in the US can not grasp that their country existed with a population with an army but think Canada did not?

Unchainme
10-23-2005, 03:35 PM
Hmmm, What would happen if we merged with Canada and Mexico, if ever got in a war with China and wanted to guarantee victory

Country Name: United Provinces Of North America

436,207,944 Total Population (3rd In the World.)

21,588,638 KM2 (1st in the World.)

Largest City: Mexico City

Capitol: Omaha, Nebraska

Official Languages: English, French, Spanish

Government: Democratic federal republic

PHOENIX
10-23-2005, 11:16 PM
I think i'll move back to Italy.

Cathedral
10-23-2005, 11:39 PM
If anyone thinks for a second that this shit won't happen, they live in a sheltered world cut off from reality.

I saw this coming in '95, but to my surprise it hasn't even been an issue until now. That says something right there.

Get fucking ready, folks. I won't sit by with silent guns and watch my country sell itself out, no fucking way, baby...They will have to kill me and mine and many many many more like me to pull this off.

There will be a "Revolution" to contend with before they go making any deals of this nature with any other countries.
My mind set is that if our country is to be destroyed, it will be destroyed by Americans with nothing left standing for anyone else to benefit from.
Especially with the under the radar shit they have been doing behind the voters backs.

This is exactly the shit that will make me a Terrorist by Homeland Security definitions.
I see Homeland Security as its own Terror Cell if you want my true opinion on it.
It has yet to do anything but rob us of freedoms and liberties because everyone runs around all day with fear of being attacked at any given moment. It did nothing but hinder aide during the Hurricanes, so i cast a vote of No Confidence where that is concerned.

The terrorists won (whoever they are in reality), I hate to say it but its the fucking truth. People are actually afraid because it has been beat into their skulls that terror is the number one reason they'll die.

BULLSHIT ON THAT!

America has become a breeding ground for spineless Liberal pussies who want to make nice with the enemy as opposed to blowing their heads off. That is a sure fire way to become "occupied" by foreign forces when shit like Clinton did in reducing defence spending is allowed to stand.
We spend the most on defence for a reason, people.
The largest most powerful country wouldn't be that if it spent less than everyone else, would it?

Well fuck that noise, My ass is from an old school american mentality where if you fuck with us, we fuck back harder and do our best to seize victory.
The problem with it all is that my old school american mentality pits me against the new school current greedy fucks calling themselves, Americans.

Then there is also the fact that our soldiers are called up to fight wars that defend our need to stick our nose in everyone else's business, so it's kind of a catch 22.
Do i support our men and women fighting these wars?
Yes, I do, and i pray for victory with minimal loss of life on all sides.
Do i support the reasons they were called to fight thses wars?
No, So i pray for their success and peace to take over quickly.

Even if i were a panzy Lib i would hate the war but watch what i say so it doesn't bolster the resolve of the enemy.
Unfortunately, political minded fucks see no reason to hold their tongue and even believe the lie that it doesn't contribute to the insurgency.

Too many people fail to realize that the tongue is the worlds nastiest weapon, but it can be the ultimate blessing if used responsibly and with forethought.
Violators of this unwritten code seem to think there is a line they haven't crossed, but that is only because they can't see that they have already crossed it.

Angel
10-24-2005, 02:55 PM
Perhaps when Clinton was in power... even then highly doubtful.

As for now....

We're not even sure if we classify you as a friend and ally anymore.

China & India are rapidly taking your place as our biggest trading partners.

Look what GWB has accomplished! An alliance hundreds of years old practically wiped out in two terms... unfucking believable!

scamper
10-24-2005, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by Unchainme
Hmmm, What would happen if we merged with Canada and Mexico, if ever got in a war with China and wanted to guarantee victory

Country Name: United Provinces Of North America

436,207,944 Total Population (3rd In the World.)

21,588,638 KM2 (1st in the World.)

Largest City: Mexico City

Capitol: Omaha, Nebraska

Official Languages: English, French, Spanish

Government: Democratic federal republic

President: Me