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DLR'sCock
09-22-2005, 01:20 AM
Cindy Sheehan Caravan Stopped by Capitol Police
By Sarah Ferguson
The Village Voice

Wednesday 21 September 2005

Bring Them Home Now treks afoot to press conference.
Washington, DC - At just past noon on Wednesday, anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan and the rest of the Bring Them Home Now tour were stopped by a pair of squad cars two blocks from the US Capitol by members of the Capitol police force. Officers explained that they wanted to use bomb-sniffing dogs to inspect the caravan of three RVs and several cars.

The officers said it was standard practice to inspect large vehicles in the area. "RVs aren't allowed on Capitol Hill," one said. "That's standard procedure. Any trucks that come on Capitol Hill are stopped and turned around." Campers aren't allowed at all, the officer said, "unless they've been previously authorized."

Officers told the peace activists they couldn't park at the Capitol because they don't have the proper permits. Sheehan and company then began preparing to make the rest of the trek on foot. Awaiting them near the Capitol steps were a crowd of television cameras for a scheduled noon press conference.

Earlier this week in New York City's Union Square park, police officers unplugged Sheehan's microphone, saying she didn't have a proper permit for that either.

People with Bring Them Home Now seemed unfazed. "It's always something," said Stacy Bannerman of Military Families Speak Out, whose husband spent a year fighting in the Sunni Triangle. "It's just part of the deal."

The conference is being held by Sheehan and the others to announce their arrival in Washington and to kick off a weekend of resistance that is expected to include a march of 100,000 people and mass civil disobedience.

At 1:30 p.m., Sheehan and her allies plan to head to the White House, where they'll attempt to give President Bush a letter asking him to answer the question, "What noble cause are our loved ones dying for?"




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Battle Lines behind the Battle Lines
By Petula Dvorak
The Washington Post

Wednesday 21 September 2005

Protest to make DC a flash point for rift among military families.
Fayetteville, NC - In military communities across the United States, a debate over the Iraq war is being waged by reluctant, neophyte activists. Their microphones chirp and squeak, or don't pick up their quiet voices at all. Their signs are too small. They forget the banners.

"This is my community. I don't want to offend people here. But my husband is a soldier; he can't say anything. So it's my duty as a citizen to speak up," Kara Hollingsworth, a DC native and Army wife at Fort Bragg whose husband served two tours in Iraq, said as she took a seat on a panel of antiwar activists last week.

A few hours earlier, another Army spouse stood in the red-brick village square near the base and held up a handmade sign supporting the war. She threw it together after she heard that an antiwar caravan was coming to town.

"I've never done this before. I'm usually a quiet military wife. But I can't take this anymore," said Marlene Lowrey, whose husband also served in Iraq. "This isn't right, coming into a town like this with that antiwar stuff. Those people don't realize this brings down morale."

Military families, stoic and tight-lipped during most of the nation's wars, have become a powerful voice on both sides of the bitter argument over US involvement in Iraq. And their growing prominence will add a poignant note to Saturday's antiwar march and rally near the White House.

Organizers of the protest, who anticipate a crowd of about 100,000, estimate that thousands of military families and veterans will join in the demonstration. Three busloads of military families have been touring the country since Aug. 31 and will converge on Washington today to promote Saturday's rally.

In recent weeks, war supporters have been countering those bus stops, rallies and vigils with demonstrations of their own. They've got their own bus touring the country and are planning three days of counter-protests in Washington this weekend.

Both sides embrace the slogan "Support our troops." They just disagree on how to do it. They also were inspired by the same person: Cindy Sheehan, who lost her son in combat and kept a vigil near President Bush's ranch in Crawford, TX, through most of August.

Because of Sheehan, "military families across the country are stepping forward to speak out" in support of US policy, said Iowa state Sen. Charles W. Larson Jr., who recently served a year in Iraq with the Army. "You don't normally see people like this do that. They are angry and frustrated, and that is why they have become engaged in the debate."

Sheehan also galvanized Phil and Linda Waste, who were riding one of the "Bring Them Home Now" buses through the hills of North Carolina last week. Their three sons, grandson and granddaughter are all in the military and have served a total of 58 months in Iraq, and the Wastes have white-knuckled their way through each of those tours of duty.

They sat in their Hinesville, GA, living room for months, cursing at the television reports from Iraq.

"Then we saw Cindy in Texas," said Linda Waste, holding tight to the table's edge on the bumping bus. Her husband picked up her thought: "And then we heard people call her unpatriotic. And that was it."

The Wastes finish each other's sentences and kiss each time they say "bring them home now" in unison. The people on the bus have started to call them Philinda.

"It's something I've got to do. Otherwise, I can't live with the guilt of what I did to my sons," Phil Waste said. He served in the Navy and has the blurry, sagging tattoos to prove it. He never fought in a war and used the mechanical skills he learned in the military to earn a decent living repairing elevators. "I told them the military was a good place to start out, a good place to learn a skill." He shakes his head and begins to cry.

The three buses have stopped in small towns and state capitals, the riders helping one another step onto makeshift stages to tell their stories and assure other folks that being antiwar doesn't mean being anti-soldier.

"You wouldn't believe how many people in the military are relieved to hear us speak. It's like they have permission to be angry now," said Julie Cuniglio of Dallas, who comes from a large military family. She joined the bus tour in Crawford, mourning the death of her nephew, Staff Sgt. Aaron Dean White, who was killed in May 2003 in Iraq.

The antiwar tours have hit 51 cities in 28 states, covering the South, Midwest and North.

Sheehan has met up with each tour at various times, flying from one city to the next, making quick speaking appearances and signing a few autographs.

Some families have joined the tour for a few days. Others, such as Philinda, are in it for the long haul - from Crawford to Washington in 24 days.

Last week, the riders on the southern tour had been wearing the same clothes for days and were begging their chain-smoking, ex-Navy driver, who goes only by "Chito," to stop for a bite to eat. In some cities, like-minded families served them fried chicken and potato salad dinners and sometimes put them up for the night. Other nights, they slept on the bus or occasionally splurged for a cheap hotel.

Sometimes, the mere threat of the tour barreling through town spurred people on the other side into action. In downtown Raleigh, NC, a group of veterans quickly assembled a small rally to counter Sheehan's message. The antiwar tour never showed up at that spot, but Matthew Delk did.

"I'm really not into going to protests. That's not me," said Delk, a beefy Iraq war veteran who spent weeks recovering at Walter Reed Army Medical Center from burns on his hands and chest. A National Guardsman, he is the manager for Halifax County in North Carolina, and he was sweating in a charcoal suit far different from his desert fatigues. "As a soldier, I'm not supposed to get involved in this stuff. But I believe that our mission is a noble mission. And I feel like I had to come here and say my piece."

Carolyn Culbreth, whose father is a retired Special Forces soldier, came to downtown Fayetteville on her lunch hour to meet the antiwar bus. "What they're doing is unpatriotic," Culbreth said, spangled head to toe in red, white and blue. "And in a place like this, it's just like a slap in the face."

When Chito parked the Bring Them Home Now bus in the center of Fayetteville the next day, cars whizzing by it honked and drivers barked at the slogans all over the windows and sides.

A woman in a silver Mercedes leaned out and shouted, "Go home!" A man in a red muscle car gave members of the group an obscene gesture. A soldier in a beat-up Olds Cutlass gave them a peace sign.

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DrMaddVibe
09-22-2005, 06:38 AM
"a weekend of resistance"...isn't that nice.

Bitch...go home!

Cathedral
09-22-2005, 09:25 AM
Oh yeah, she spent her 15 minutes of fame and is now just annoying as hell.
I wish she would shut her fucking pie hole and take her mental ass back home so she can grieve in private and not be exploited for partisan reasons.

It isn't right that she is being used the way she is.
And she's too dumb to figure out that her supporters don't give a damn about her, they just want to attack Bush.

But then again, if losing more positions is what they want.......so be it.

But she'll learn, when the smoke clears and everyone has left her corner, then she'll understand.

Hardrock69
09-22-2005, 10:41 AM
Regardless of her being a tool, anyone and anything that can keep the public aware of the continuous treason perpetrated by the BCE is a good thing.

FORD
09-22-2005, 10:48 AM
Cindy Sheehan is no tool or puppet. She's doing exactly what she feels she has to do in order to hold the BCE accountable for their actions.

Warham
09-22-2005, 02:11 PM
Cindy and her band of 30 protestors.

She's accumulated 30 like-minded people in her quest of hatred against George W. Bush.

It's really working isn't it?

Warham
09-22-2005, 02:12 PM
There were more media down in Crawford than actual Anti-American war protestors.

Cathedral
09-22-2005, 02:23 PM
Don't forget Mr. Phil Donahue, he's a Cindy fan now, lol.

Right or wrong, the woman is being used by people with other agendas, and it's sad.
But as long as the camera gets pointed at the haters, they could care less who they use to capture the spotlight.

How long do you think her followers would stick around if the media stopped covering this little protest?

Once the camera's pull out so would her support, and i'd lay money on that.

It isn't the protesting that bothers me, it's the blanket of hate that surrounds it that isn't right and it is what makes her a puppet being moved by strings of hatred.

Nickdfresh
09-22-2005, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by Warham
Cindy and her band of 30 protestors.

She's accumulated 30 like-minded people in her quest of hatred against George W. Bush.

It's really working isn't it?


Hmmmm...30 protesters? About the same percentage of AMERICANS that think BUSH is a good president and that the IRAQ WAR is worthwhile.

Warham
09-22-2005, 06:52 PM
Depends on which poll you are using....

President Bush Job Approval

Bush Job Approval

Strongly Approve 24%
Somewhat Approve 23%
Somewhat Disapprove 15%
Strongly Disapprove 37%
RasmussenReports.com

Bush Job Approval

Thursday September 22, 2005--Forty-seven percent (47%) of American adults now approve of the way George W. Bush is performing his role as President.

Fifty-two percent (52%) Disapprove, including 37% who strongly Disapprove.

The President earns Approval from 49% of men and 45% of women. He also earns support from 53% of married Americans and 36% of those who are not married.

Consumer confidence slipped again and Investor Confidence fell for the fifth straight day. The Rasmussen Consumer Index shows that the nation's economic confidence is now slightly lower than it was in the aftermath of the 9-11 terrorist attacks.

Conservatives are less than enthusiastic about the President's plan to spend $200 billion in federal money rebuilding New Orleans and surrounding areas. Just 35% of Americans now say that the President has done a good or an excellent job of responding to the Hurricane Katrina crisis. That's down from 39% before the speech.

Just 40% of Americans believe the U.S. and its allies are winning the War on Terror. Thirty-six percent (36%) say the terrorists are winning.

During 2004, reports on the President Job Approval were based upon surveys of Likely Voters. Typically, a survey of Likely Voters would report a Job Approval rating 2-3 points higher than a survey of all adults.

On Election Day, the President's Job Approval was at 52%. During all of 2004, the President's Job Approval ranged from a high of 57% in early January to a low of 48% on May 17.

The President's highest rating of 2005 was 54% on February 4.

Occasionally, due to the rounding process, the totals for "Strongly" and "Somewhat" Approve or Disapprove presented in the left column do not match the totals presented in the right column.

Rasmussen Reports updates the President's Job Approval ratings every day along with other measures of the political environment.

Rasmussen Reports also provides daily updates on the economic confidence of Americans

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Bush_Job_Approval.htm

DrMaddVibe
09-24-2005, 11:24 AM
Where's the protest?

DrMaddVibe
09-25-2005, 08:47 AM
http://www.wnd.com/redir/r.asp?http://thepoliticalteen.com/video/sheehandc.wmv


Thank God her 15 minutes are running out.

DrMaddVibe
09-27-2005, 06:37 AM
Sheehan Arrested During Anti-War Protest
Sep 26 4:27 PM US/Eastern


By JENNIFER C. KERR
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON

Cindy Sheehan, the California woman who became a leader of the anti- war movement following her son's death in Iraq, was arrested Monday along with dozens of others protesting outside the White House.

Sheehan, carrying a photo of her son in his Army uniform, was among hundreds of protesters who marched around the White House and then down the two-block pedestrian walkway on Pennsylvania Avenue. When they reached the front of the White House, dozens sat down _ knowing they would be arrested _ and began singing and chanting "Stop the war now!"

Police warned them three times that they were breaking the law by failing to move along, then began making arrests. One man climbed over the White House fence and was quickly subdued by Secret Service agents.

Sheehan, 48, was the first taken into custody. She smiled as she was carried to the curb, then stood up and walked to a police vehicle while protesters chanted, "The whole world is watching."

About 50 people were arrested in the first hour, with dozens of others waiting to be taken away. All cooperated with police.

Sgt. Scott Fear, spokesman for the U.S. Park Police, said they would be charged with demonstrating without a permit, which is a misdemeanor.

Park Police Sgt. L.J. McNally said Sheehan and the others would be taken to a processing center where they would be fingerprinted and photographed, then given a ticket and released. The process would take several hours, he said.

Sheehan's 24-year-old son, Casey, was killed in an ambush in Sadr City, Iraq, last year. She attracted worldwide attention last month with her 26-day vigil outside President Bush's Texas ranch.

The demonstration is part of a broader anti-war effort on Capitol Hill organized by United for Peace and Justice, an umbrella group. Representatives from anti-war groups were meeting Monday with members of Congress to urge them to work to end the war and bring home the troops.

White House press secretary Scott McClellan said Bush is "very much aware" of the protesters and "recognizes that there are differences of opinion" on Iraq.

"It's the right of the American people to peacefully express their views. And that's what you're seeing here in Washington, D.C.," McClellan said. "They're well-intentioned, but the president strongly believes that withdrawing ... would make us less safe and make the world more dangerous."

The protest Monday followed a massive demonstration Saturday on the National Mall that drew a crowd of 100,000 or more, the largest such gathering in the capital since the war began in March 2003.

On Sunday, a rally supporting the war drew roughly 500 participants. Speakers included veterans of World War II and the war in Iraq, as well as family members of soldiers killed in Iraq.

"I would like to say to Cindy Sheehan and her supporters: Don't be a group of unthinking lemmings," said Mitzy Kenny of Ridgeley, W.Va., whose husband died in Iraq last year. She said the anti-war demonstrations "can affect the war in a really negative way. It gives the enemy hope."

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Nickdfresh
09-28-2005, 03:59 PM
March of the Peaceniks (http://www.comedycentral.com/sitewide/media_player/play.jhtml?itemId=23470) from The Daily Show with Jon STEWART.:D

DrMaddVibe
09-28-2005, 11:09 PM
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0928mccain-sheehan.html

'Peace Mom' assails McCain
Calls senator a 'warmonger' after D.C. visit

Billy House
Republic Washington Bureau
Sept. 28, 2005 12:00 AM

WASHINGTON - Cindy Sheehan, whose 26-day anti-war vigil this summer outside President Bush's Texas ranch grabbed international attention, met privately for 20 minutes on Tuesday with Sen. John McCain and afterward called him "a warmonger."

"It was nice of him to meet with us," said Sheehan, 48, whose son, Casey, was killed in Iraq in August 2004.

"He didn't have to have to meet with us, and he did it," the Vacaville, Calif., woman said. But she added of McCain, "He is, you know, a warmonger. And I am not."
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McCain, R-Ariz., a potential 2008 presidential candidate who survived 5½ years as a prisoner of war in Vietnam, responded: "She's entitled to her opinion. We just have fundamental disagreements."

McCain called the meeting "basically a rehash of my views, which I've articulated many times, and her views which she has articulated many times."

He has been a staunch supporter of Bush's commitment to keep the U.S. military in Iraq to defeat the insurgency and give the country time to stabilize as a democracy.

The unannounced afternoon meeting at McCain's Senate offices drew little media attention.

It was the second time Sheehan had met with McCain. The two talked at Fort Lewis, Wash., after her son was killed.

Joining Sheehan in meeting with McCain on Tuesday was her sister, Dede Miller, and Shay Lohman, 22, who described himself as a congressional liaison for the group helping to arrange her congressional visits.

During the meeting, Sheehan said she pointedly asked McCain three questions, the same ones she asked other lawmakers in similar meetings this week. She said she came away disappointed in McCain's answers.

When pressed about what was the noble cause of fighting in Iraq, Sheehan said McCain replied, "Freedom and democracy."

Asked how many other people's children's lives the senator is willing to risk in Iraq, Sheehan said the senator "didn't really answer, said that was a hard question."

And when Sheehan said she asked McCain what he is doing to end the war, she said he told her that he has been to Iraq and that "they have to get some kind of Iraq democracy and get enough Iraqis trained."

McCain, a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, reiterated in an interview after the meeting that he believes the military action in Iraq is justified.

He said that he believes former Iraq leader Saddam Hussein would have attempted to acquire weapons of mass destruction had he remained in power and that "I saw the mass graves of thousands of people who were killed by Saddam Hussein."

"I respect and cherish the right of any citizen to disagree with the policies - peacefully disagree - with the policies of (their) government," McCain said.

"But I not only have not encouraged Ms. Sheehan, I have expressed my strong disagreement with her views on the war and her statements, including her comments about the president of the United States, which I strongly disagree with."

He said he knows firsthand that Bush is "incredibly" sensitive and caring and grieves over the loss of American lives in Iraq.

Sheehan said that she had hoped to meet also with Arizona's other Republican senator, Jon Kyl, but that a scheduling conflict kept her from personally doing so. Kyl also has been a supporter of keeping the U.S. military in Iraq.



Reach the reporter at billy.house@arizonarepublic.com or 1-(202)-906-8136.

ELVIS
09-28-2005, 11:58 PM
Can't you just feel the wave across America...


:elvis:

FORD
09-29-2005, 01:46 AM
Originally posted by ELVIS
Can't you just feel the wave across America...


:elvis:

Which wave is that? The wave of this horrible neocon fascist bullshit brigade finally falling apart......

Chimpy's afraid of Cindy Sheehan and when he's not wasting millions of taxpayer dollars in jet fuel, he's hiding in a bottle.

Delay's going down, and it's long overdue.

Some of the worst pieces of crap in Congress are looking very vulnerable for 2006, and a Democratic victory will no doubt lead to Chimpeachment!! :)

Amen Brother Elvis! The wave is rising and it will drown the infidels.....

DrMaddVibe
09-29-2005, 06:34 AM
Originally posted by FORD
Which wave is that? The wave of this horrible neocon fascist bullshit brigade finally falling apart......

Chimpy's afraid of Cindy Sheehan and when he's not wasting millions of taxpayer dollars in jet fuel, he's hiding in a bottle.

Delay's going down, and it's long overdue.

Some of the worst pieces of crap in Congress are looking very vulnerable for 2006, and a Democratic victory will no doubt lead to Chimpeachment!! :)

Amen Brother Elvis! The wave is rising and it will drown the infidels.....

You're delusional ford.

DrMaddVibe
09-29-2005, 06:37 AM
September 27, 2005
Speak Up, America
By Ed Koch

Cindy Sheehan, whose son Casey was killed in action in Iraq on April 4, 2004, has become the face of the anti-war movement in the United States. While her grief is understandable, her rhetoric is outrageous.

As the mother of a son killed in battle in Iraq, she originally struck a sympathetic chord, whether you supported the war in Iraq or opposed it. One cannot help but empathize with the agony of a bereaved mother. But that has changed over the months, and I believe that many Americans who viewed her with sympathy no longer do so.

Many Americans, myself included, now see her as a person who has come to enjoy the celebratory status accorded to her by the radicals on the extreme left who see America as the outlaw of the world. These radicals are not content to be constructive critics. They are bent on destroying this country.

Some of them want to turn America into a radical socialist state. Others hope to create a utopia. But regardless of their agendas, how can Cindy Sheehan's supporters defend her shameful statement, “This country is not worth dying for.”

While we recognize the U.S. is far from perfect, we are still head and shoulders above most other countries in the world in every respect. We remain the place where almost all others, given the chance, want to come to live. We continue to be the land of opportunity. We are the world’s leading economy.

Yes, there is far too great a difference between the incomes of the rich and the poor. Yes, we haven’t provided universal medical care as a matter of right for all of our citizens. Yes, minorities still suffer from discrimination socially, in housing, jobs and education. But we have a political system that for more than 200 years has allowed the electorate to work its will through regularly held elections. The government follows the will of the people, or it will no longer stay in power..

Those who rail against the United States have simply failed to sell their message to the public at large. They keep losing elections, local as well as national. Rather than broadening their appeal, they have narrowed it.

I supported and still support the war in Iraq, because our Congress and President had every right to rely on the advice of the CIA that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. On Sunday, September 25, 2005, Tim Russert of Meet The Press, summed up the situation prevailing before the war, saying, “…post September 11th, there was a fear of terrorism, an inability to know whether there were weapons of mass destruction by the public or by the media. George W. Bush said there were. Bill and Hillary Clinton said there were. The Russians, French and Germans, who opposed the war, said there were. Hans Blix of the UN said there were.”

Iraq had fought an eight-year war against Iran resulting in a million casualties, using poison gas against the Kurds, who were citizens of Iraq, and against the Iranian army. Yes, since the 2003 invasion, we have not found any present supplies of WMD. Nevertheless, based on advice from CIA counterparts advising every member nation of the United Nations Security Council, the Security Council, including Syria, adopted Resolution 1441 unanimously, finding Iraq had weapons of mass destruction for which it had not accounted and advising Iraq that failure to account was cause for war. Iraq refused to account for them to the U.N. We and our allies were right to invade, notwithstanding that other countries, terrified by the prospect of terrorism against them and tempted by corruption at the UN masterminded by Saddam Hussein through the Oil-For-Food program and lucrative vendor contracts with Hussein’s regime, did not join us.

As I have often stated, we have accomplished our original goal to prevent Iraq from threatening us or its regional neighbors. We should declare victory and get out. Yes, there probably will be a civil war among the Kurds, Sunni and Shia. If the UN -- which is still under a cloud because of the "Oil for Food" scandal -- decides to take a military role in Iraq to stop the civil war, we can join them at that time. Having accomplished our original mission, we should no longer be fulfilling the obligations of other countries, such as Germany and France which have had a free ride to date. Even in Afghanistan, the latter NATO allies, do not participate in combat duty, leaving that and the ensuing casualties for the U.S. to bear.

President George W. Bush summed up his views on Iraq when he stated, “When the Iraqi army stands up, the American Army will stand down.” I have low expectations of that happening in the immediate future. The estimates provided by the Bush administration on our getting out range from two to ten years. I do not believe we should wait that long, because of the casualties that would be involved. We should get out now, leaving the UN in charge. Although I believe that we should leave Iraq, I do not accept Sheehan’s outrageous statements.

Sheehan has joined those who rail against Israel, labeling Israel as the culprit with her comment, “You get America out of Iraq, you get Israel out of Palestine and the terrorism will stop.” Is that why Sunni and other terrorists have intentionally killed thousands of Shia civilians, labeling them, according to al-Zarkawi, infidels? Is that why Arab fundamentalists have declared war against all Christians and Jews?

According to Wikipedia, on August 15, 2005, on the Chris Matthews Show, Sheehan said, “she would not have responded differently to her son’s death had he died in Afghanistan rather than in Iraq. Sheehan argued that the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan was ‘almost the same thing as the Iraq war.’” Remember, the UN Security Council authorized the invasion of Afghanistan and the war against the Taliban government.

Sheehan’s personal attacks on President Bush include comments in a speech on April 27, 2005, when she said, “We are not waging a war on terror in this country. We’re waging a war of terror. The biggest terrorist in the world is George W. Bush.” Shameful.

According to Wikipedia, Sheehan wrote, “Casey was killed in the Global War of Terrorism waged on the world and its own citizens by the biggest terrorist outfit in the world: George and his destructive neo-con cabal.”

In an interview on CBS, Sheehan referred to the foreign insurgents coming into Iraq, who are condemned as terrorists even by other Arab countries, as well as the U.S. and Great Britain, as “freedom fighters.” On September 16, 2005, she said, “Pull our troops out of occupied New Orleans and Iraq.” On the one hand, she and her supporters urge that the National Guard be brought back from Iraq to be used in New Orleans, and on the other hand, she condemns their use there now.

In addressing a veterans’ group on August 5, 2005, she demeaned herself with the use of truly outrageous remarks hurled at the President, describing him as “a lying bastard,” “that jerk,” “that filth spewer and war monger,” and “that evil maniac.”

Sheehan appeared this past weekend in Washington, D.C., leading the parade in a picture captured by the media that included Jesse Jackson, Julian Bond and Al Sharpton.

On Monday of this week, while Sheehan and her supporters were in Washington protesting at the White House against the presence of U.S. military forces in Iraq -- those forces there at the request of the democratically elected Iraqi government -- according to The New York Times, “Armed men dressed as police officers burst into a primary school in a town south of Baghdad on Monday, rounded up five Shiite teachers and their driver, marched them to an empty classroom and killed them, a police official said.” Sheehan believes them to be “freedom fighters.”

Of course, Sheehan has the right to state her opinion in a country she believes shouldn’t be defended. We who disagree with her statements, we who believe this country deserves our thanks, love and willingness to defend it, also have the right to express our views. Speak up, America.

Ed Koch is the former Mayor of New York City.


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Commentary/com-9_27_05_EK.html

FORD
09-29-2005, 10:15 AM
Fuck Ed Koch. He's a traitor against this country just like the PNAC bastards he defends.

BigBadBrian
09-29-2005, 11:51 AM
Originally posted by FORD
Fuck Ed Koch. He's a traitor against this country just like the PNAC bastards he defends.

Yeah, anyone with an opposing viewpoint is a traitor. :rolleyes:

Did you borrow that phrase from the hawks when they used it against the anti-war people when they voiced their discontent on the Iraq War?
What comes around, goes around, huh? ;)

ELVIS
09-29-2005, 12:11 PM
Nothing wrong with Ed Koch...

FORD, you got troubles...

Satan
09-29-2005, 12:28 PM
Koch has given his full endorsement to the PNAC agenda which has put the interests of another country in front of the security of the United States of America.

That is the very definition of treason.

Fuck the piece of shit.

Warham
09-29-2005, 02:03 PM
Ed Koch did a good job on People's Court.

He's fine by me.

DrMaddVibe
10-02-2005, 09:45 AM
They're stuck on stupid...'cuz stupid sticks on them!