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DLR'sCock
09-26-2005, 01:20 AM
September 18, 2005

Air Force Col: Bush, Cheney, NeoCONs TREASONous
Filed under: misc, Iraq, US Govt, headline news — ben @ 5:20

US Air Force Col Robert Bowman:

I want to start with a scary thought: Can you imagine what would have
happened if George W. Bush had been President during the Cuban missile
Crisis.

You people who are out here protesting, you are the shock troops
battling to preserve our cherished freedoms. You know our freedoms are
not under attack from the remnants of Saddam Hussein’s Bathist Party.
They’re under attack by the likes of John Ashcroft. They’re trampled by
Donald Rumsfeld, they’re disdained by Dick Cheney, and they’re not even
understood by George W. Bush.

The battle to preserve our freedoms is not taking place in Baghdad and
Tikrit and Falluja. It’s taking place in peace marches and
demonstrations in Ghiradeli Park in San Francisco, in Memorial Park in
Oklahoma City, and in Lafayette Park in Washington, DC.

The front lines are right here. You are preserving our cherished
freedoms by exercising them in spite of ridicule and opposition. The
battle to preserve our freedoms is you.

You are the foot soldiers protecting our civil rights.

You are the Minutemen sounding the alarm against tyranny.

You are upholding the spirit of the American Revolution.

You are preserving the freedoms that the troops in the desert have a
right to come back to.

The troops getting shot at in Iraq are not protecting us, we are
protecting them and their honor and their freedom. We my sisters and
brothers are protecting this nation by speaking truth to power.

We’re speaking truth to a pack of liars.

We must do it loudly and fearlessly and courageously and joyfully, for
we are the Patriots. And when we speak, this is the truth that we
procl..

This war in Iraq has nothing to do with National Security or freedom or
democracy or human rights or protecting our allies or weapons of mass
destruction or defeating terrorism or disarming Iraq. It has to do with
money, it has to do with oil, and it has to do with raw imperial power.
And it’s based totally on lies.

Those that forced this war on an unwilling world are guilty of
violating the US Constitution, the UN Charter, the Nuremburg Principles
and International Law. What they have done is illegal, immoral,
unconstitutional and treason!

Before this war started, we knew it would fracture NATO, split the
United Nations, seperate us from our allies destroy the great nation we
inherited from our fathers who died in World War II, and it has.

We knew it would make our beloved country feared and hated and outcast
among the world community, a pariah among the peoples and the number
one rogue nation on Earth, and it has.

This is nothing but treason.

We knew this sadistic corporate war would incense the Arab world,
provide thousands of new Osama bin Ladens and enormously increase the
terrorist threat, and it has.

We knew it would further endanger the American people and the British
people and destroy our National Security, and it has.

This cabal of neoconservatives from PNAC who planned this war, Cheney,
Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Libby, Perle, Jeb Bush - even before Dubya became
President - they told us why they had to do it, they said we need to
occupy Iraq permanently in order to dominate Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia,
and the southern Russian Republics around the Caspian Sea. We need to
control the entire Middle East and all it’s oil.

This is nothing but treason

ELVIS
09-26-2005, 05:56 AM
No link bullshit


:elvis:

BigBadBrian
09-26-2005, 09:11 AM
This article is a fake.

No AF Colonel is allowed to speak out under any Presidential administration in such a manner.

It's flagrant disrespect and violates several articles of the UCMJ.

This "piece" was probably fabricated by MoveOn.org or Truthout or one of the other Socialist or America-Hater organizations.

:gulp:

Satan
09-26-2005, 09:16 AM
Every word Col. Bowman said is the Truth. And Busheep can't handle the Truth.

Cathedral
09-26-2005, 09:46 AM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
This article is a fake.

No AF Colonel is allowed to speak out under any Presidential administration in such a manner.

It's flagrant disrespect and violates several articles of the UCMJ.

This "piece" was probably fabricated by MoveOn.org or Truthout or one of the other Socialist or America-Hater organizations.

:gulp:


This is true, no officer could say such things without being charged with treason if they are still wearing the uniform.

If he is retired that is a different story but that isn't clear in this article.

But in my new found attitude for this Administration i have to say that the war was waged unconstitutionally if i am going to hold what Bush tried to do with the Terri Schiavo issue against him.
Otherwise i'd be practicing hypocracy.

According to the Constitution, it requires a vote from Congress to declare war, and that didn't happen.

Do i believe in the war to free the Iraqi people?
Yes i do, but it is becoming very clear to me that that isn't the reason we're there, and i feel duped by this Administration the more i think and learn about it.

I'm wondering just how important our Constitution is to our current leaders which doesn't seem to be very important at all if i take a hard look at their actions.

That said, I am as much to blame as anyone since i voted for this Administration twice.

Unless someone can explain to me how we can declare war without an act of congress and it be Constitutional.
So don't anyone jump my ass unless you can do that, k?

knuckleboner
09-26-2005, 10:45 AM
obviously, there's no way that an active duty colonel would be allowed to do that. (nor should they.)

this appears to be a speech to war protestors. and it appears old. the guy references john ashcroft.

Cathedral
09-26-2005, 12:14 PM
Duh, I missed that little nugget.

Good eye, knuckleboner!
Someone seems to have edited the date a little, lol.

What is John Ashcroft doing these days anyway, anyone know?

bobgnote
09-26-2005, 02:35 PM
Whatever, any of you still interested in a viable USA should pack an agenda that notices the different kinds of engagements, and changing rules that progress, or regress, but it ain't digress, says me.

That means doc, too, and don't be forgetting to smarten the fuck up.

The military needs to reconsider everything at this point. Their assets are in dire-ass danger, and the civilian authority is not only proving and re-asserting incompetence, but the FUBAR is on a grand scale, so that Lee's cool vid SNAFU is already obsolete right on the bs battlefield.

Pay fucking attention, me tardies. Your pirate game is taking you off the basic issues, not as bad as deadhead fansites. We are liable to end up as founding mofos. SOON.

None of you caught that Al Queda moved up their attacks to 9/11/01 because California and other states negotiated inflationary, ILLEGAL POWER DEALS post-deregulation, to effect a US-funding implosion.

None of you caught that to hide the SEDITIOUS CONSPIRACY, the government and information media, on all public and private forums, is in collusion so as to unlawfully manipulate all values, preceeding the evident virtual emminent domain nuisance, represented by the refusal to fund levees, the conspiracy to undermine US funding by deregulation of power providers and enacting inflationary contracts, the conspiracy to incite terrorism by Islamic or any other Middle Eastern or Asian interest, for the last 5000 years! That incitement-excitement is what makes western civilization REALLY WILD-WILD Western, and what makes not just Republicans, but also Democrats, Tories, and Labour into neo-con punks, looking for a fight over Israel.

Bowman had to talk. Learn to lighten up on who he is or where he is, since active and retired military WHO KNOW SOMETHING are going to start talking, or dumbasses like Brian will take a shot and draw more ordinance than a bar-room putdown requires, just because Americans who act up are going to catch all that, real soon. Act like Brian shithead all into the 21st, see if you viz all of it to 2020.

So lately, I put into info@bushclintonkatrinafund.org that the fund is operating illegally on the same TV, with the same illegally interested former Presidents who now want money to be directed to the churned burn area, where the emminent domain conspiracy is unfolding.

Guess who fucked off the TV, or faces a lawsuit that can cornhole a former President or two, then wheel-turn on the current Admin? They don't belong on TV, panhandling, when they churn this burn, to scam all the little fire-stories for big chump-change.

ELVIS
09-26-2005, 05:31 PM
Fuck this bullshit thread...

And Godbless...


:elvis:

FORD
09-26-2005, 05:38 PM
Can't do that, Mr. Presley.

I would say that an Air Force Colonel has earned the right to speak the truth about what is happening in this country, even when that truth is painful for you to hear.

It's just as painful for him to speak it, I'm sure. Those of us who DO admit the reality of what the BCE has done to this country certainly don't rejoice in it. :(

ELVIS
09-26-2005, 06:58 PM
That linkless bullshit is BULLSHIT!

I'm about to move it to the dump

FORD
09-26-2005, 07:47 PM
Here's your links......

http://benfrank.net/blog/2005/09/18/treason/

http://okimc.org/newswire.php?story_id=1173

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/archives/cat_current_events.html

http://www.oldamericancentury.org/

...... pick one or all of them.

Cathedral
09-26-2005, 07:49 PM
Originally posted by ELVIS
That linkless bullshit is BULLSHIT!

I'm about to move it to the dump

Here's one link.

He's been retired since 1978 and tried to run against Bush in 2004.

Col. Robert Bowman (ret) Bio (http://www.rmbowman.com/Bowman2000/bio.htm)

FORD
09-26-2005, 07:50 PM
And here's the Colonel's speech (http://radio.indymedia.org/uploads/col_bowman-treason.mp3) for anyone who wants to hear it.

FORD
09-26-2005, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by Cathedral
Here's one link.

He's been retired since 1978 and tried to run against Bush in 2004.

Col. Robert Bowman (ret) Bio (http://www.rmbowman.com/Bowman2000/bio.htm)

OK, he's retired. So there goes the objections against him supposedly speaking against the Chimp in Chief.

As I said, the man's certainly earned his right to speak the truth.

Cathedral
09-26-2005, 07:52 PM
You can check out the show here.

Treason - by Col. Robert Bowman (retired) (http://www.odeo.com/audio/239752/view)

Cathedral
09-26-2005, 07:55 PM
Ooops, Ford and I are on the same page again, oh shit, lmmfao.

Oh well, y'all have two options then, enjoy!


But i agree, he's earned the right.

FORD
09-26-2005, 07:57 PM
I'm not sure this guywould make it as a Presidential candidate, but I gotta say I like his platform......


Bob Bowman was the first presidential candidate officially recognized by the Reform Party in 1999, and for several weeks was the only one. He campaigned in 48 states. Central to his campaign were (1) electoral reform (severing the connection between big money and political power), (2) international trade reform (renouncing NAFTA, GATT, and the WTO), (3) health care reform ( a doctor-run single-payer national health system), (4) structural reform (ending the domination of society by transnational corporations and banks), (5) economic reform (allowing workers to keep more of the wealth they create), and (6) foreign relations reform (freeing the American people from the threat of nuclear terrorism by a return to a Constitutional foreign policy which refuses to go to war for the financial interests of the wealthy few). His campaign appealed to liberal Democrats and conservative Republicans alike. He is the candidate of all those who want to see a Constitutional government serving the people of the United States instead of the global big money interests.

Cathedral
09-26-2005, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by FORD
I'm not sure this guywould make it as a Presidential candidate, but I gotta say I like his platform......

We agree again, I like his platform too.

Did hell freeze over or something?

Give Satan a ring and ask if it's snowing down there, lmmfao.

FORD
09-26-2005, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by Cathedral
We agree again, I like his platform too.

Did hell freeze over or something?

Give Satan a ring and ask if it's snowing down there, lmmfao.

He just e mailed me this picture.......
http://www.gwydian.com/demonic/art/hellfreeze.jpg

Cathedral
09-26-2005, 08:19 PM
Um, stealing bandwidth again, Ford? lmmfao...

FORD
09-26-2005, 08:22 PM
What a bunch of pussies.....

I'll fix it later.... gotta get to the Green Day show......

Cathedral
09-26-2005, 08:29 PM
Have fun, drive safely...:)

DLR'sCock
09-27-2005, 01:38 AM
The good Col. is a true American patriot!!!!


And his platform kicks ass!!