DeLay Indicted in Campaign Finance Probe

[FORD]

DeLay Indicted in Campaign Finance Probe
Sep 28 12:42 PM US/Eastern


By LARRY MARGASAK
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON

A Texas grand jury on Wednesday charged Rep. Tom DeLay and two political associates with conspiracy in a campaign finance scheme, an indictment that could force him to step down as House majority leader.

DeLay attorney Steve Brittain said DeLay was accused of a criminal conspiracy along with two associates, John Colyandro, former executive director of a Texas political action committee formed by DeLay, and Jim Ellis, who heads DeLay's national political committee.

The indictment against the second-ranking, and most assertive Republican leader came on the final day of the grand jury's term. It followed earlier indictments of a state political action committee founded by DeLay and three of his political associates.

The grand jury action is expected to have immediate consequences in the House, where DeLay is largely responsible for winning passage of the Republican legislative program. House Republican Party rules require leaders who are indicted to temporarily step aside from their leadership posts.

However, DeLay retains his seat representing Texas' 22nd congressional district, suburbs southwest of Houston.

DeLay has denied committing any crime and accused the Democratic district attorney leading the investigation, Ronnie Earle, of pursuing the case for political motives.:rolleyes:

Democrats have kept up a crescendo of criticism of DeLay's ethics, citing three times last year that the House ethics committee admonished DeLay for his conduct.

Copyright 2005 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistribute

[FORD]

September 28, 2005
DeLay Is Charged With Criminal Conspiracy in Texas
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Filed at 1:24 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A Texas grand jury on Wednesday charged Rep. Tom DeLay and two political associates with conspiracy in a campaign finance scheme, forcing the House majority leader to temporarily relinquish his post.

DeLay was accused of a criminal conspiracy along with two associates, John Colyandro, former executive director of a Texas political action committee formed by DeLay, and Jim Ellis, who heads DeLay's national political committee.

''I have notified the speaker that I will temporarily step aside from my position as majority leader pursuant to rules of the House Republican Conference and the actions of the Travis County district attorney today,'' DeLay said.

The White House, meanwhile, called DeLay a ''good ally,'' and said President Bush still considered DeLay a friend and effective leader in Congress.

GOP congressional officials said Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., will recommend that Rep. David Dreier of California step into those duties. Some of the duties may go to the GOP whip, Rep. Roy Blunt of Missouri. The Republican rank and file may meet as early as Wednesday night to act on Hastert's recommendation.

Criminal conspiracy is a state felony punishable by six months to two years in a state jail and a fine of up to $10,000. The potential two-year sentence forces DeLay to step down under House Republican rules.

At the White House, press secretary Scott McClellan said the president still considers DeLay ''a good ally, a leader who we have worked closely with to get things done for the American people.'' :rolleyes:

''I think the president's view is that we need to let the legal process work,'' McClellan said.

[FORD]

**.....and suddenly silence filled the room, with the Busheep unable to comprehend the fact that the front lines of the BCE had finally been breached.....**

[Hardrock69]

Well of course Chimp considers DeLay a good ally...

Chimp is a SERIOUS criminal, and should be harged with high treason.

Birds of a feather....

[Steve Savicki]

Is this the face of a true coward?
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[Nickdfresh]

I just heard this--I guess in a nut shell it's money laundering (to evade TEXAS campaign finance laws)...Ooof!

[LoungeMachine]

WOOOOOO HOOOOOOO !!!!!

Praise Jesus

[Warham]

Shame, shame Tom.

I guess Jim Wright doesn't look so bad after all.

[Cathedral]

I hope they fry his ass in Hot Oil, he's a real sack of shit in my opinion.

[ELVIS]

Never liked him...

[Cathedral]

Not many do, or ever did.
That dude is shady from the word, go.

His opinion on legal guardianship pissed me off really really bad.

My money is on him being convicted, Earle's gonna fry him.

[FORD]

Originally posted by Cathedral

His opinion on legal guardianship pissed me off really really bad.

.

It was also total hypocrisy, considering it's the exact opposite of the position he had when his own father was in a vegetative state.

[DLR'sCock]

Buh Bye....


What comes around, goes around...

[Cathedral]

Originally posted by FORD
It was also total hypocrisy, considering it's the exact opposite of the position he had when his own father was in a vegetative state.


Oh hell yeah it was, and it jarred the hell out of me when i heard him trample on Michael Schiavo's legal right's.

No matter what the media hyped about him, nobody knew any real facts and therefore had no right to judge him any more than any of you or he could judge me.

The facts were unclear and the allegations were unproven, but if it were a public square type of thing, his ass would have been hanged regardless.

I don't know about you, but I see a huge fucking problem with that shit.
That is NOT American in any way, and that should have scared the hell out of every American alive.

But as usual, it spiraled right into a left vs. right partisan finger pointing excercise that took the focus off of what they were really doing.
Guilty until proven innocent, you can't tell me otherwise.
So now it's DeLay's ass in the sling so why not apply the same guidlines to him?

Because the burdon of proof falls on the accuser, the accused doesn't have to prove a damn thing in a court, that's the law.

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by FORD
DeLay Indicted in Campaign Finance Probe
Sep 28 12:42 PM US/Eastern


This is very gratifying to me.

You should have seen him squirm on Hannity and Colmes last night.

[Nickdfresh]

Isn't Bill FRIST on deck with something?

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Cathedral
Oh hell yeah it was, and it jarred the hell out of me when i heard him trample on Michael Schiavo's legal right's.



Cat, get over that shit already. :rolleyes:

[FORD]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Isn't Bill FRIST on deck with something?

Yep. It seems Dr. Kitty Killer did a bit of insider trading with stocks that were supposed to be in a "blind trust".

[FORD]

I also find it interesting that they pinch-hitted Roy Blunt for David Drier at the last minute as BugBoy's replacement.

Guess a gay majority leader was too much for the neohypocrites?

[Cathedral]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
Cat, get over that shit already. :rolleyes:

Oh yeah sure, I'll just have another sip of what your drinking where the sky is a pretty shade of lavender all the time and trampling the right's of american citizens is A-OK.

If YOU were in my shoe's the implications of what went down wouldn't be so easy to overlook or get over.

Does my dissention bother you Brian?
It must since you are the only one who tries to bust my balls over it.
It's tough enough to watch someone you love suffer day after day after day knowing full well where it is leading and having strangers attack the very right's and responsibilities that fall into your lap?
That's what you should be rolling your eyes at, dude, not me.
If you were Me or Micahel Schiavo, how would that sit with you?

Things are tough enough without having people, who have no business or legal right mind you, sticking their nose into your private family affairs, judging you and treating you with zero respect based on unproven accusations the media perpetuated.
That shit was unacceptable by any elected official and there is no getting over that, Brian.
The attempt to interfere in the private lives of people they don't even know a god damned thing about and attempting to over rule a States Judicial Ruling because they don't agree with the decision is contrary to what the Constitution says about the right's of any given state.

You should change your name to Big Brother Brian, because that is the kind of shit this dances with and apparently you support it.

The Right to life should be weighed with a responsible measure of Quality of life and until you walk a couple of steps in my families shoes i'll thank you to shove your eye rolling attitude up your ass.

I'm completely justified in my view and if you don't like it that's just tough shit, buddy.

[Satan]

Big Brother Brian?

Yeah, that fits :D

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Cathedral
Oh yeah sure, I'll just have another sip of what your drinking where the sky is a pretty shade of lavender all the time and trampling the right's of american citizens is A-OK.

If YOU were in my shoe's the implications of what went down wouldn't be so easy to overlook or get over.

Does my dissention bother you Brian?
It must since you are the only one who tries to bust my balls over it.
It's tough enough to watch someone you love suffer day after day after day knowing full well where it is leading and having strangers attack the very right's and responsibilities that fall into your lap?
That's what you should be rolling your eyes at, dude, not me.
If you were Me or Micahel Schiavo, how would that sit with you?

Things are tough enough without having people, who have no business or legal right mind you, sticking their nose into your private family affairs, judging you and treating you with zero respect based on unproven accusations the media perpetuated.
That shit was unacceptable by any elected official and there is no getting over that, Brian.
The attempt to interfere in the private lives of people they don't even know a god damned thing about and attempting to over rule a States Judicial Ruling because they don't agree with the decision is contrary to what the Constitution says about the right's of any given state.

You should change your name to Big Brother Brian, because that is the kind of shit this dances with and apparently you support it.

The Right to life should be weighed with a responsible measure of Quality of life and until you walk a couple of steps in my families shoes i'll thank you to shove your eye rolling attitude up your ass.

I'm completely justified in my view and if you don't like it that's just tough shit, buddy.

You know Cat, I more than anyone can probably sympathize with what you've been through. I won't say why here on the Internet, though, as there are too many people who will use that info for their own deceitful purposes later on. I would, however, PM you the details later on. Maybe.

I apologize if you took offense to my post....it wasn't intended to be disrespectful in view of your past. I know you've suffered greatly. I'm simply tired of seeing the issue here on the board.

However, looking back at the Schiavo situation, it is clear to me that both sides behaved badly in the matter. Should the husband have had control of his wife's medical course? Of course...if she had left a living will or if it could had been verified that is what she wanted. Michael Schiavo behaved in such a greedy manner, including taking another woman, that leaves the situation in doubt. Having such a large sum of money at stake plus having an illicit affair with another woman, plus having children with the woman, leaves me questioning whether MS could have done the right thing for his former wife. If not, he should have relinquished custody to her parents.

Good day. :)

[Satan]

So who was REALLY behind the fall of the BugBoy?
http://designfromnowhere.com/DelayBert.jpg
....the picture is worth more than 666,000 words ;)

[jacksmar]

Regardless of what happens, they will be more fallout.

See, my memory isn’t so short.

Remember at the first of the year when a bunch of losers went after Delay for not reporting trips and shit? The shit started to run out of the bowl onto every finger pointing commie lib. That shit stays and smells.

So a dickhead in Texas gets Delay on 6th try. This may not stick, and if it doesn’t guess what?

What you missed in all of this Delay waived his rights under the statute of limitations. That’s a fact that is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy beyond most commie libs.

Here’s what the indictment says: It states that three men entered into an agreement to carry out the redistricting scheme in September 2002, but it does not provide any evidence.

And the dickhead prosecutor doesn’t get to decide the outcome, that’s done in a court of law. When that’s over, put on your boots commie libs.

[jacksmar]

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[jacksmar]

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/3374471

Legal experts say Earle better have 'smoking gun'
By MARY FLOOD
Copyright 2005 Houston Chronicle


Most legal experts looking at the conspiracy indictment of U.S. Rep. Tom DeLay said Wednesday that either an insider has turned against DeLay or the prosecutor may have gone too far.

"I can't imagine indicting a majority leader of the U.S. House of Representatives without having a smoking gun, and that means someone who flipped on DeLay," said Buck Wood, an Austin lawyer who filed a related civil lawsuit on behalf of Democratic congressional candidates. "He's got to have corroborating evidence, too, bills and things proving where DeLay was at key

[Warham]

The prosecutor went to far.

Let's investigate Earle and see what we can come up with.

[FORD]

DeLay is a vile, criminal scumbag, and it's about time he got called on it. Don't assume political motives where none exist.

[Nitro Express]

Why bother with the lawyers? Bring out the guitine!

[Nitro Express]

The Donkey fucks the elephant and then the elephant fucks the donkey....Welcome to American politics!

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
having an illicit affair with another woman, plus having children with the woman, leaves me questioning whether MS could have done the right thing for his former wife. If not, he should have relinquished custody to her parents.



yeah, when you're wife turns into a zombie your sex drive just disappears! It's miraculous!

[ODShowtime]

I love how all you neocons don't give a shit about real morals or about what's really right and fair. Same thing with Rove. As long as no actual laws are broken it's all good. It doesn't matter how under-handed and corrupt it is or how far into the hands of fascism it pushes us.

And yet you fall all over yourselves trying to make new laws to take away people's freedoms.

The fucking FBI and Attorney General are making investigating deviant porn a #1 priority? The obscenity of their greed is a million times more distateful! Pot is the number one drug problem? Meth is destroying whole towns in months!

It's a fucking joke. The leaders you elected for us are going to flush our society right down the fucking toilet. Thanks.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by jacksmar
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/3374471

Legal experts say Earle better have 'smoking gun'
By MARY FLOOD
Copyright 2005 Houston Chronicle


Most legal experts looking at the conspiracy indictment of U.S. Rep. Tom DeLay said Wednesday that either an insider has turned against DeLay or the prosecutor may have gone too far.

"I can't imagine indicting a majority leader of the U.S. House of Representatives without having a smoking gun, and that means someone who flipped on DeLay," said Buck Wood, an Austin lawyer who filed a related civil lawsuit on behalf of Democratic congressional candidates. "He's got to have corroborating evidence, too, bills and things proving where DeLay was at key

Actually, there's a lot of speculation that that's exactly what might happen.

[Cathedral]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by BigBadBrian
[B]You know Cat, I more than anyone can probably sympathize with what you've been through. I won't say why here on the Internet, though, as there are too many people who will use that info for their own deceitful purposes later on. I would, however, PM you the details later on. Maybe.

I apologize if you took offense to my post....it wasn't intended to be disrespectful in view of your past. I know you've suffered greatly. I'm simply tired of seeing the issue here on the board.

No need brother Bri, i'm not offended in the least.
I was pissed but i can't be offended and i'm over it now.
Sorry i errupted on ya, dude!

However, looking back at the Schiavo situation, it is clear to me that both sides behaved badly in the matter. Should the husband have had control of his wife's medical course? Of course...if she had left a living will or if it could had been verified that is what she wanted. Michael Schiavo behaved in such a greedy manner, including taking another woman, that leaves the situation in doubt. Having such a large sum of money at stake plus having an illicit affair with another woman, plus having children with the woman, leaves me questioning whether MS could have done the right thing for his former wife. If not, he should have relinquished custody to her parents.

Well, I didn't want to drag the whole thread back into that issue.
It's just that the story of the day happens to be DeLay. the mere mention of his name and seeing his picture everywhere..it bug's me pretty good, dude.
If he's innocent leave him be. if not, lock him up.

The power trip was shut down, justive prevailed for The Schiavo's.
My opinion on it means nothing, it was flat out none of my business.
But i also think i can stop crying about it a little too, lol....

Roth On!

Good day. :)

[Warham]

Originally posted by ODShowtime
I love how all you neocons don't give a shit about real morals or about what's really right and fair.

It's a fucking joke. The leaders you elected for us are going to flush our society right down the fucking toilet. Thanks.

I noted that you liberals didn't care about morals when the Clinton administration was in charge. More ethics violations (indictments and jail time) than any other administration in history.

But it was OK because the economy was good.

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by Warham
I noted that you liberals didn't care about morals when the Clinton administration was in charge. More ethics violations (indictments and jail time) than any other administration in history.

But it was OK because the economy was good.

You need to just go ahead and make a new screen name "but clinton" because that's the only arguement you ever present. Jesus H Christ give it a rest! :rolleyes:

You never specifically answer or stick up for the incompetent, treasonous acts of the government you helped elect. You have nothing to add.

That said I haven't had much to bring to the table lately either. These guys are up to so much I can't even keep track and stay focused anymore.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by ODShowtime
You need to just go ahead and make a new screen name "but clinton" because that's the only arguement you ever present. Jesus H Christ give it a rest! :rolleyes:



I think it's Hilarious (pun intended :D ) that you libs keep dogging us out about Slick Willy when YOU GUYS keep bringing him up so much also. I'm going to start keeping track. Five times in the last three days by three different liberals here on this board, and not in response to us, the GOOD side. :D

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
I think it's Hilarious (pun intended :D ) that you libs keep dogging us out about Slick Willy when YOU GUYS keep bringing him up so much also. I'm going to start keeping track. Five times in the last three days by three different liberals here on this board, and not in response to us, the GOOD side. :D

I think SESHMEISTER listed the number times CLINTON was mentioned by each poster, I was a distant third while you and WARHAM were numbers one and two.:) Numbers one & two, no pun intended...;)

Yup! Uh-huh.

http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=369195#post369195

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
I think SESHMEISTER listed the number times CLINTON was mentioned by each poster, I was a distant third while you and WARHAM were numbers one and two.:) Numbers one & two, no pun intended...;)

Yup! Uh-huh.

http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=369195#post369195

Sesh MADE UP those figures, Nick. Geez........... :rolleyes:

[Warham]

Nick likes fuzzy math, just like Al Gore.

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
I think it's Hilarious (pun intended :D ) that you libs keep dogging us out about Slick Willy when YOU GUYS keep bringing him up so much also. I'm going to start keeping track. Five times in the last three days by three different liberals here on this board, and not in response to us, the GOOD side. :D

Look I'll build a bridge here and tell you one thing. I want no part of that bitch getting near the oval office.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Warham
Nick likes fuzzy math, just like Al Gore.

Well, we know pwescious' BUSH(league) doesn't like numbers.:)

"FUZZY MATH (2+2=5)" (http://www.thebots.net/FuzzyMathVideo.htm) Scroll down to see the George W. BUSH rap.:D

[LoungeMachine]

DeLay is only the START of the neo-con repukes about to fall........


Check a calendar guys, it aint monicagate anymore.

They're all going down

DeLay
Frist
Scooter
Scottie [will quit shortly]
Cheney
Rummy

and of course, turd blossom himself......

Cherthoff most likely as well will "step down" before Nov. 2006

This will be the be Neocon Shitbag's "winter of dicontent"

Couldn't have happened to a bigger bunch of crooks.......

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
DeLay is only the START of the neo-con repukes about to fall........


Check a calendar guys, it aint monicagate anymore.

They're all going down

DeLay
Frist
Scooter
Scottie [will quit shortly]
Cheney
Rummy

and of course, turd blossom himself......

Cherthoff most likely as well will "step down" before Nov. 2006

This will be the be Neocon Shitbag's "winter of dicontent"

Couldn't have happened to a bigger bunch of crooks.......

This is simply wishful thinking, I'm afraid. :D

Half of these guys will retire by default in a year or so (Rummy) and a couple like McClellan and Libby will probably step aside also due to the fact that people in those jobs get burnt out rather quickly. Presidents and Vice Presidents go through aides at an alarming rate. Cheney may not fulfill his full term due to health reasons also.

:)

[FORD]

Scooter is being setup as the sacrificial lamb for Treasongate. But even if they paint his blood all over the White House door, it can't hide Rove's guilt.

[Guitar Shark]

DeLay deserves to get locked up.

Frankly, I am surprised that ANYBODY is supporting him here.

[FORD]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
DeLay deserves to get locked up.

Frankly, I am surprised that ANYBODY is supporting him here.

That's why they're called BuSHEEP, Matt. :D