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FBI's Mueller Warns of Terrorist Plots
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By CURT ANDERSON, Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON - Terrorists could attempt to influence the outcome of this year's U.S. presidential election by launching attacks in America and overseas, FBI Director Robert Mueller said Thursday.
In an interview with The Associated Press, Mueller also said Islamic extremists have changed tactics and are focusing on recruiting local sympathizers who are less likely to arouse suspicion than outsiders sent into a country to conduct terrorist operations.
The deadly March 11 train bombings in Madrid, which were a factor in the ouster of a pro-U.S. Spanish government, could embolden al-Qaida or other extremists to attack the United States during this summer's presidential nominating conventions in New York and Boston, Mueller said.
"In the wake of what happened in Madrid we have to be concerned about the possibility of terrorists attempting to influence elections in the United States by committing a terrorist act," Mueller said.
Those conventions will bookend the Summer Olympics in Athens, another venue that could draw terrorist attacks. The United States has been concerned that security efforts in Athens may fall short of what is necessary to protect athletes and spectators.
"We understand that between now and the election, there is a window of time in which terrorists might try to influence events, whether it's here or overseas," Mueller said. The FBI and other U.S. agencies are assisting the Greeks to identify and shore up potential weaknesses.
Regarding the new al-Qaida recruiting tactics, Mueller said that the suicide bombers who took part in last May's attacks in Casablanca, Morocco, were local extremists and indicated that similar efforts are likely going on in the United States.
Mueller also applauded the cooperation of Saudi Arabia and Pakistan in U.S. anti-terrorism efforts. Since the deadly May 12 bombings in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia has moved aggressively to root out al-Qaida cells and discovered huge caches of explosives and weapons.
"Saudi Arabia has become a very inhospitable place for al-Qaida," Mueller said. "That was not always the case."
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I just have to add that asking Pakistan and Saudi Arabia for help with Al Qaeda is like asking the KKK and the Skinheads to help fight racism! Face it, those fucking BCE bastards are planning some shit, and it's time you Busheep woke the fuck up and realized it! :mad:
diamond den™
03-25-2004, 06:15 PM
The BCE rock! :)
steve
03-25-2004, 07:52 PM
That burns me up how he describes potential "terror attacks" as "Al Queda's attempt to influence elections" - as if a win by Kerry under those circumstances would be invalid.
The pessimistic part of me is just waiting for this to happen...
a few subway explosions from Al Queda (sorry FORD, I'm not with the conspiracy theory - just that the "BCE" are ignorant assholes)...
and in the event of a Kerry win, Bush refuses to give up the White House claiming "terrorist tampering" or some bright new concept until a(n ironic) recount can take place.
We'll see...
Obviously, I hope there are no terrorist attacks at all; but I am not too optimistic , to say the least, about these Supreme Court bribing, Oil Company profiteering, Terror-expert ignoring, WMD falsifying, loud-mouthed, ignorant Corporation tools in the executve branch right now.
If only Bob Dole had won in 96 and 2000 (and thus no GW)...the country would be a lot better off.
Originally posted by steve
If only Bob Dole had won in 96 and 2002 (and thus no GW)...the country would be a lot better off.
2002?? ;)
I'd take Dole over Junior, but I think most people realized he was a little old for the job. I definitely couldn't see him for 8 years.
steve
03-25-2004, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by FORD
2002?? ;)
I'd take Dole over Junior, but I think most people realized he was a little old for the job. I definitely couldn't see him for 8 years.
Damn, typo there :).
Anyway - even though I disagree with some of Bob Dole's policies, he struck me as an intelligent and decent human being - a man of relative principle for the game of politics.
Actually, if Bob Dole were in politics today, I am not so sure if he wouldn't be falling into the McCain/Guiliani wing of the Republican party...as Dole's main tie to the GOP was his fiscal conservatism as opposed to his (lack of) extreme conservative social attitudes, Corporation slavitude, and religious cult ties.
The age thing would not be a problem now - as the man is still going strong. But you're right in that his age is what ultimately lost him that election.
John Ashcroft
03-25-2004, 08:33 PM
Bob Dole?????????
Come on now! He embodied every reason that America doesn't elect Senators as President. Don't get me wrong, Senator Dole is a very intelligent and respectable guy. But you can't convince America that you're gonna "clean this town up" when you've been in the Senate for the last fucking 40 years. It's party of what Kerry's running against (that, and he doesn't even have the charisma to make a die-hard Democrat yawn.)
Originally posted by John Ashcroft
Bob Dole?????????
It's party of what Kerry's running against (that, and he doesn't even have the charisma to make a die-hard Democrat yawn.)
Nope. I puke often when I hear him waffling, but never yawn.
John Ashcroft
03-25-2004, 08:37 PM
Proof positive!
And whoops! I meant "part", not "party"... Even thought Dole's a viagra spokesman, I doubt he's much of a party...
Cathedral
03-26-2004, 05:01 AM
If America is hit by another attack prior to the election Bush is done. There is no way the so called "BCE" would plot that kind of thing when it will only serve to turn people against Bush for NOT better protecting the borders.
I find fault in this whole proposal...
Kerry, if anyone, would be the only beneficiary of such an action.
Barring that, This election will be based on job creation to which Kerry is clearly seen as the man to accomplish that goal.
BigBadBrian
03-26-2004, 07:39 AM
Originally posted by steve
to say the least, about these Supreme Court bribing, Oil Company profiteering, Terror-expert ignoring, WMD falsifying, loud-mouthed, ignorant Corporation tools in the executve branch right now.
:rolleyes: Steve obviously gets his talking points from all the other America haters at the Democratic Underground.
Originally posted by Cathedral
If America is hit by another attack prior to the election Bush is done. There is no way the so called "BCE" would plot that kind of thing when it will only serve to turn people against Bush for NOT better protecting the borders.
I find fault in this whole proposal...
Kerry, if anyone, would be the only beneficiary of such an action.
Barring that, This election will be based on job creation to which Kerry is clearly seen as the man to accomplish that goal.
But you're forgetting one thing.... Remember when Tommy Franks hinted that another terrorist attack would bring martial law??
If that were to happen, and people were essentially under house arrest, the election would be "postponed".
And just like it was in Germany 70 years ago, there wouldn't be anything "temporary" about it :(
John Ashcroft
03-26-2004, 12:26 PM
Actually, a terrorist hit would strengthen Bush's reeletion probablility IMHO. Let's face it, Dems aren't considered strong on National Defense, and Americans don't buy into this whole notion that "America is inviting terrorism by it's policies". Americans blame the terrorists and the nations that harbor them.
But, the Dems seem to think otherwise. So good luck running on a "Blame America" campaign. I think you guys should go for it!
No I agree with you. Assuming the elections weren't cancelled altogether through martial law or some other constitution shredding means, I'm sure the fear-hypnotized population would completely buy into the corporate media lie that "only the BCE can protect us".
Hell, Junior's already implying that in his current campaign ad. The one that he appears in himself.
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
:rolleyes: Steve obviously gets his talking points from all the other America haters at the Democratic Underground.
There ARE a lot of America Haters at DU these days. They are DLC operatives trying to convert the site into a Kerry spin machine.
Dr. Love
03-26-2004, 12:49 PM
Well, why wouldn't they try? It worked with Spain.
John Ashcroft
03-26-2004, 12:52 PM
I didn't say the terrorists wouldn't try, I just don't think it'll get the same result as in Spain.
ELVIS
03-26-2004, 01:26 PM
Originally posted by FORD
I'm sure the fear-hypnotized population would completely buy into the corporate media lie that "only the BCE can protect us".
Hell, Junior's already implying that in his current campaign ad. The one that he appears in himself.
It's true...
John Ashcroft
03-26-2004, 01:27 PM
All but "the corporate media lie" part...
ELVIS
03-26-2004, 01:35 PM
:D
Dr. Love
03-26-2004, 02:11 PM
I think I'm going to vote for me this next election. Unless one of you guys thinks you're a better choice for President than I am.
Otherwise, I'm picking me with Ally_Kat as my VP.
BigBadBrian
03-26-2004, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Love
I think I'm going to vote for me this next election. Unless one of you guys thinks you're a better choice for President than I am.
Otherwise, I'm picking me with Ally_Kat as my VP.
I'll vote for you as long as you make me SECDEF, give me a 10 million man army, and draft military-trashing weinies like FORD. :D
Originally posted by Dr. Love
I think I'm going to vote for me this next election. Unless one of you guys thinks you're a better choice for President than I am.
Otherwise, I'm picking me with Ally_Kat as my VP.
Ally won't be eligible for another 15 years. And how old are you, Doc?
I think I'll run. You all can testify that I'm closer to Jesus Christ than Bush OR Judas!
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
I'll vote for you as long as you make me SECDEF, give me a 10 million man army, and draft military-trashing weinies like FORD. :D
I think I'm too old for that. Thank God!
ELVIS
03-26-2004, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Ally won't be eligible for another 15 years. And how old are you, Doc?
I think I'll run. You all can testify that I'm closer to Jesus Christ than Bush OR Judas!
I can testify that you are smug and in dire need of fresh air and an appointment with a mental health professional...
:elvis:
John Ashcroft
03-26-2004, 02:58 PM
I want to be Ally's intern...
knuckleboner
03-26-2004, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Love
I think I'm going to vote for me this next election. Unless one of you guys thinks you're a better choice for President than I am.
Otherwise, I'm picking me with Ally_Kat as my VP.
sorry, doc. i'm voting for ashcroft's daughter, since he already promised me a cushy position.
and if there's one thing i value above nepotism, it's loyalty.
BigBadBrian
03-26-2004, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by FORD
I think I'm too old for that. Thank God!
Not with my plan. :gun:
steve
03-26-2004, 06:11 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
:rolleyes: Steve obviously gets his talking points from all the other America haters at the Democratic Underground.
when ya can't argue against the points...AD HOMINEM (attack the source).
Bush & Co. is doing it with Richard Clarke, and it's THE most common tool of Bush supporters right now - because they have no arguments to stand up for the guy's actual policies.
Got Milk?
Got [VALID ARGUMENTS]?
steve
03-26-2004, 06:13 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Love
I think I'm going to vote for me this next election. Unless one of you guys thinks you're a better choice for President than I am.
Otherwise, I'm picking me with Ally_Kat as my VP.
Alright, Sammy Hagar. Go contribute another $2000 to Junior...and for God sakes, give your wife back her capri pants!
BigBadBrian
03-27-2004, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by steve
when ya can't argue against the points...AD HOMINEM (attack the source).
Pot. Kettle. Black.
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Seshmeister
03-27-2004, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by John Ashcroft
Actually, a terrorist hit would strengthen Bush's reeletion probablility IMHO. Let's face it, Dems aren't considered strong on National Defense, and Americans don't buy into this whole notion that "America is inviting terrorism by it's policies". Americans blame the terrorists and the nations that harbor them.
But, the Dems seem to think otherwise. So good luck running on a "Blame America" campaign. I think you guys should go for it!
Which is why Al Qaeda will do it.
Noone does more for their recruitment centres than Bush.
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