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blueturk
09-29-2005, 06:14 PM
More newspeak from the people who brought you "Catastrophic Success", "Mission Accomplished", "Standing Down", and other hits!

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/09/29/national/w140702D48.DTL

Generals Say Iraq War Strategy Is Working
By ROBERT BURNS, AP Military Writer

Thursday, September 29, 2005

(09-29) 14:48 PDT WASHINGTON, (AP) --


Only one Iraqi army battalion seems capable of fighting without U.S. help, a senior American general told Congress on Thursday, leaving some lawmakers worried about worsening conditions there despite his assurances that the overall military strategy is working.


Gen. George Casey, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, told the Senate Armed Services Committee that the number of Iraqi army battalions rated by U.S. officers as capable of fighting without U.S. help had dropped from three to one. This prompted expressions of concern by Democrats and Republicans alike, at a time when many lawmakers and members of the public are growing restless about the U.S. involvement in Iraq and the nearly 2,000 American troops who have died there.


"That contributes to a loss of public confidence in how the war is going," Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, said of Casey's remarks. "It doesn't feel like progress when we hear today that there is only one Iraqi battalion fully capable."


The Iraqi troop ratings are important because the Pentagon has built its Iraq strategy on the expectation that it can start bringing American troops home as the Iraqis gradually take the lead in the fight against the insurgency.


Casey said 75 percent of the U.S.-trained Iraqi army was at least capable of engaging in combat, albeit with U.S. troops providing support in most cases. He declined to give an exact breakdown of Iraqi combat readiness, which he said was classified as secret, but he said more than 30 battalions are judged capable of taking the lead in an offensive, with U.S. support. Only one can operate entirely on its own.


Casey did not explain why the number had dropped from three in June to one today. But he said the Iraqi army is getting stronger, even though the Ministry of Defense that manages the army lacks expertise and stability. He said Iraqi soldiers performed well in recent battles for control of the city of Tal Afar.


Underscoring the continued U.S. presence in Iraq, the House on Thursday passed, 348-65, a bill funding Pentagon operations at roughly current levels as part of a stopgap funding bill for federal agencies whose budgets will not have passed by Saturday, the start of the 2006 fiscal year. The Senate was expected to pass the measure later by Friday.


The effort to train Iraqi troops and police has progressed far slower than once expected, and Casey conceded it has been hurt by infiltration of the army and Iraqi police by insurgents and their sympathizers.


Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., said he was troubled that with such uneven progress in training the Iraqi army, the Bush administration is still planning for the possible withdrawal of some U.S. troops from Iraq next year.


Casey said troops reductions are an important part of the overall military strategy for stabilizing Iraq. He declined to predict, as he had in July, that the Pentagon could make a fairly substantial troop withdrawal next year if political progress continues and the insurgency does not grow more violent. But he said under questioning by committee members that troop reductions were possible in 2006.


"You're taking a very big gamble here," McCain said to Casey "I hope you're correct. I don't see the indicators yet that we are ready to plan or begin troop withdrawals, given the overall security situation."


Democrats on the panel pressed Casey and Gen. John Abizaid, the Central Command commander who also testified, for clear measures of progress on the military front and for indications that the Iraqis are taking seriously the need to assume more responsibility for their own security.


There are now about 149,000 U.S. troops in Iraq, and the number is likely to top 150,000 as Casey bolsters the force to prepare for an expected increase in violence before an Oct. 15 referendum on the Iraqi constitution.


Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and Gen. Richard B. Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, also testified. Together with Casey and Abizaid they also testified before the House Armed Services Committee.


Abizaid cited several encouraging signs in Iraq. He said the main battles against the insurgency had shifted to western Iraq, "which is a good sign, a good indicator that Iraqi and U.S. forces are having an effect elsewhere." Also, infiltration of foreign fighters across the Syrian border "remains a concern, but it's down."


Both Abizaid and Casey said they did not want a large increase of U.S. forces in Iraq, in part because that would fuel the insurgency by reinforcing the perception among Iraqis of the Americans as occupiers.


The hearing came on a day when five American soldiers were killed by a roadside bomb in Ramadi in western Iraq. That brought the number of U.S. troops who have died in Iraq since the war began in 2003 to 1,934, according to a tally by The Associated Press.


Casey said events between now and December, when Iraq is scheduled to hold a national election — assuming the draft constitution is approved in the October referendum — will determine when U.S. troops can begin going home. The constitution is expected to be approved.


On a less optimistic note, Casey said political divisions in Iraq could widen if, as he expects, a sizable majority of Sunni Arabs vote against the constitution.


"I think that's entirely possible, senator," Casey told Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich. "I mean, as we've looked at this, we've looked for the constitution to be a national compact, and the perception now is that it's not, particularly among the Sunni."

frets5150
09-30-2005, 12:54 PM
Question if the Iraqi's are terrorists so they say why the FUCK are we training them.:rolleyes:

blueturk
09-30-2005, 06:28 PM
What the hell would a general know about the situation? Rummy will tell you the real story...

Rumsfeld Defends Iraqi Troops' Progress

Friday September 30, 2005 7:01 PM

WASHINGTON (AP) - Iraqi security forces are getting better, not worse, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said Friday, a day after a top U.S. commander told Congress that the number of Iraqi army battalions capable of fighting without U.S. help had dropped from three to one.

``Every day, the number of Iraqi security forces are getting bigger, and they're getting better, and they're getting more experienced,'' Rumsfeld told reporters at the Pentagon.

On Thursday, Gen. George Casey, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, disclosed the reduced number of combat-ready Iraqi battalions to two congressional committees. His remarks prompted lawmakers of both parties to criticize the apparent lack of progress and question whether it would be possible to begin withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq next year, as some have hoped.

But standing side by side with Rumsfeld Friday, Casey said Iraqi security forces are progressing and continue to take on a more prominent role defending their country with coalition forces.

``Next year at this time, I'll be much more concerned about it'' if few Iraqi battalions are still considered battle-ready by American officers.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-5313332,00.html

Nickdfresh
09-30-2005, 08:48 PM
See VIETNAMIZATION (http://www.studyworld.com/Vietnamization.htm) for more details.

Nickdfresh
09-30-2005, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by frets5150
Question if the Iraqi's are terrorists so they say why the FUCK are we training them.:rolleyes:

Here's your answer:


Originally posted by Nickdfresh

(From "Chasing the Ghosts (http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27857)"
By MICHAEL WARE of TIME)

What did Tall 'Afar accomplish? At best, the picture is mixed. McMaster did succeed in driving the insurgents out, denying al-Qaeda its Tall 'Afar base and disrupting its networks. Intelligence picked up in Tall 'Afar led to the arrest last week of Abu Fatima, al-Qaeda's military emir in Mosul. The cost in U.S. lives was minimal: only four died in the two weeks of fighting since Sept. 2. At the same time, many of the insurgents who had holed up in the city got away because of the indecision of Iraqi political leaders. And while the Pentagon hailed the operation for displaying the improved mettle of the U.S.-backed Iraqi forces, the operation showed that deep sectarian and ethnic schisms still exist among the Iraqi troops. It's not hard to find commanders who fear they are training troops for a civil war. "I don't know if we're going to be able to prevent what's coming," says a front-line U.S. lieutenant colonel...

blueturk
10-01-2005, 08:34 PM
Don't worry, everything's FINE. Just ask Dubya!

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-10-01-bush-radio-address-iraq_x.htm

Bush sees progress in Iraq war effort
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Bush said Saturday he is encouraged by the increasing size and capability of the Iraqi security forces, touting progress on a key measure for when U.S. troops can come home.

President Bush hopes to shift his public focus back to Iraq and to the anti-terror fight.
Andel Ngan, AFP/Getty

The upbeat remarks in Bush's weekly radio address came two days after the top commander in Iraq said only one Iraqi battalion is ready to fight without U.S. support.

"All Americans can have confidence in the military commanders who are leading the effort in Iraq, and in the troops under their command," Bush said. "They have made important gains in recent weeks and months; they are adapting our strategy to meet the needs on the ground; and they're helping us to bring victory in the war on terror."

The sunny presentation of the situation in Iraq is part of a renewed push by the administration to win support for the war effort from an increasingly reluctant American public.

It conflicts with the news from Iraq and some assessments from top commanders.

On Friday, Gen. George Casey, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, said Sunni Arab opposition to Iraq's draft constitution has increased the potential for instability and called into question U.S. hopes for substantial troop cuts next spring

It was the second time this week that Casey rolled back his July prediction that "fairly substantial" troop withdrawals could begin next spring.

On Wednesday, he told Congress that only one Iraqi army battalion was ready to go into combat without U.S. support, down from three estimated a few months ago. He argued, though, that the Iraqi army is getting stronger, with more than 30 Iraqi battalions deemed capable of leading combat operation against insurgents, albeit with U.S. help.

Bush said more than 100 Iraqi battalions are operating throughout the country. "Our commanders report that the Iraqi forces are serving with increasing effectiveness," he told radio listeners.

Buffeted by criticism over his administration's response to Hurricane Katrina, Bush sought this week to shift his public focus back to Iraq and to the anti-terror fight. He built a reputation for commanding leadership and won re-election in part on those two issues, but polls indicate the public is becoming more troubled by the daily U.S. casualties in Iraq and the uncertain prospects for victory.

At least 200 people have been killed in the past five days, including 13 U.S. service members, and the number of American troops killed in Iraq since the start of the war is approaching 2,000.

A Rose Garden speech earlier this week devoted to Iraq was the president's first outside of those on Supreme Court developments since Katrina hit nearly five weeks ago in which he did not mention the storm.

The remarks, in which he claimed a "plan to win" in Iraq, foreshadowed another speech Bush is scheduled to give next Thursday, as well as others being delivered in coming days by Vice President Dick Cheney and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.

In his radio remarks, Bush did warn of an upsurge in violence before Iraqis vote Oct. 15 on a new constitution. If approved, it would form the basis for elections in December of a permanent Iraqi government.

"As Iraqis take these next steps on the path to freedom and democracy, the terrorists will do everything they can to stop this progress and try to break our will," the president said. "They will fail."

Other encouraging signs Bush cited were the recent killing of Abdullah Abu Azza, al-Qaeda's No. 2 leader in Iraq, and the closing of a main route for foreign terrorists coming into Iraq from Syria.

Gen. John Abizaid, commander, U.S. Central Command, earlier cited several encouraging signs in Iraq. He said the main battles against the insurgency had shifted to western Iraq, "which is a good sign, a good indicator that Iraqi and U.S. forces are having an effect elsewhere." Also, he said, infiltration of foreign fighters across the Syrian border "remains a concern, but it's down."

"Our strategy in Iraq is clear," Bush said. "We're hunting down deadly terrorist leaders. We're conducting aggressive counterterrorism operations in the areas where the terrorists are concentrated.

"We are constantly adapting our tactics to the changing tactics of the terrorists, and we're training more Iraqi forces to assume increasing responsibility for their country's security."

blueturk
10-05-2005, 10:45 PM
Bush plans 'major speech' on Iraq, terrorism

Wednesday, October 5, 2005; Posted: 9:17 p.m. EDT (01:17 GMT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush will deliver a "major speech" speech Thursday on the progress of the war in Iraq and the broader conflict against terrorism, the White House said Wednesday.

Bush will deliver his remarks at 10:10 a.m. at a National Endowment for Democracy event in Washington.

Bush met with top military advisers Wednesday at the White House, telling reporters afterward that U.S. and Iraqi troops are on the offensive against insurgents who want to disrupt Iraq's October 15 vote on a new constitution.

He said about 3,000 Iraqi troops had done "a fine job" in recent combat alongside American units in western Iraq.

"Over 30 percent of the Iraqi troops are in the lead on these offensive operations. We've got troops embedded with them, and that's an important part of the training mission," he said.

Bush to give greater detail
White House press secretary Scott McClellan characterized Bush's planned remarks Thursday morning as a "major speech" that will address the connection between Iraq and the broader war against the al Qaeda terrorist network "in greater detail than he has before."

"He will talk about how [al Qaeda] is a group of people that have a very clear strategy for driving us out of the Middle East, for creating a safe haven in the Middle East -- a safe haven from which they can plan and plot attacks on the rest of the civilized world and a safe haven from which they can seek to overthrow moderate governments in the Middle East," McClellan said.

McClellan said the address "is not a speech on Iraq," but Bush "will talk about Iraq in the context of the broader war on terrorism."

Bush has tried repeatedly to link Iraq to the anti-terror campaign launched after al Qaeda's September 11, 2001, attacks on New York and Washington.

Though the 9/11 commission found no operational relationship between al Qaeda and Iraq before the 2003 invasion that toppled Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein, critics say the insurgency against U.S. troops that followed Saddam's overthrow has drawn terrorists into Iraq to fight Americans.

U.S. and Iraqi forces have carried out a number of operations in western Iraq in recent weeks aimed at disrupting insurgent control in the region and targeting al Qaeda in Iraq, the group led by wanted terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.

One recent raid resulted in the terror group's No. 2 operative being killed, U.S. officials have said.

Polls show support waning
Polls have found U.S. public support for the Iraq war waning since spring, despite speeches by the president in June and September that White House aides hoped would reverse the trend.

A CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll in late September found that 59 percent of people surveyed considered the 2003 invasion a mistake, 63 percent said they wanted to see some or all U.S. troops withdrawn, and only 32 percent approved of Bush's handling of the conflict.

Bush repeated Wednesday that U.S. troops will leave only when Iraqis are capable of providing for their own security.

"I've told the American people all along our troops will stay there as long as necessary," he said. "We'll do the job. We'll train these folks. And as they become more capable, we'll be able to bring folks home with the honor they've earned."

Registered Iraqi voters will head to the polls on October 15 to vote on whether to accept a new constitution.

Sunni Arabs, who are the minority in Iraq but who dominated during Saddam Hussein's regime, could defeat the charter if they get a two-thirds "no" vote in any three provinces -- a possibility that could occur in four of Iraq's 18 provinces.

The majority of Shiites and Kurds appear to favor the constitution.

Elections for permanent government
The document's approval would lead to elections for a permanent government. But if rejected, elections for a new transitional government would be held and the process of drafting a national charter would start over.

Washington hopes approval of the constitution would deal a blow to the bloody insurgency.

Bush met Wednesday with Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Peter Pace and Lt. Gen. David Petraeus, former commander of the effort to train and equip Iraqi soldiers.

Petraeus said later that only one Iraqi battalion -- about 750 troops -- is capable of operating independent of coalition support.

But he said about 35 battalions are capable of taking the lead in operations with U.S. troops, and many of those second-tier units have assumed control over cities in southern Iraq and parts of Baghdad.

Even third-tier troops are capable of "thickening" the capabilities of coalition forces by manning checkpoints and serving as guides or interpreters for U.S. troops, Petraeus told reporters at the Pentagon after his meeting with Bush.

"The Iraqis are in this fight. They are fighting and dying for their country, and they are fighting incredibly well," Petraeus said.

Asked whether a significant number of U.S. troops could be withdrawn from Iraq in 2006, as some top officers have suggested, he said, "I wouldn't venture that."

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/10/05/bush.iraq/