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DLR'sCock
10-04-2005, 08:21 PM
Miers Briefed Bush on Famous Bin Laden Memo, but Newspapers Handle the AP Photo Quite Differently
Editor and Publisher

Tuesday 04 October 2005



US Supreme Court nominee Harriet Miers going over a daily briefing paper with George W. Bush at his Crawford ranch August 6, 2001.
(Photo: AP Photo)

New York - On its front page Tuesday, The New York Times published a photo of new US Supreme Court nominee Harriet Miers going over a briefing paper with President George W. Bush at his Crawford ranch "in August 2001," the caption reads.

USA Today and the Boston Globe carried the photo labeled simply "2001," but many other newspapers ran the picture in print or on the Web with a more precise date: Aug. 6, 2001.

Does that date sound familiar? Indeed, that was the date, a little over a month before 9/11, that President Bush was briefed on the now-famous "PDB" that declared that Osama Bin Laden was "determined" to attack the US homeland, perhaps with hijacked planes. But does that mean that Miers had anything to do with that briefing?

As it turns out, yes, according to Tuesday's Los Angeles Times. An article by Richard A. Serrano and Scott Gold observes that early in the Bush presidency "Miers assumed such an insider role that in 2001 it was she who handed Bush the crucial 'presidential daily briefing' hinting at terrorist plots against America just a month before the Sept. 11 attacks."

So the Aug. 6 photo may show this historic moment, though quite possibly not. In any case, some newspapers failed to include the exact date with the widely used Miers photo today. A New York Times spokesman told E&P: "The wording of the caption occurred in the course of routine editing and has no broader significance."

The photo that ran in so many papers and on their Web sites originally came from the White House but was moved by the Associated Press, clearly marked as an "Aug. 6, 2001" file photo. It shows Miers with a document or documents in her right hand, as her left hand points to something in another paper balanced on the president's right leg. Two others in the background are Deputy Chief of Staff Joe Hagin and Steve Biegun of the national security staff.

The PDB was headed "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US," and notes, among other things, FBI information indicating "patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks."

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4moreyears
10-04-2005, 10:00 PM
Come on Ford, no link. Why is this not shut down? This could have come over in a liberal chain e-mail.

Satan
10-04-2005, 11:49 PM
It's obviously an AP wire story, not a chain letter. Grow up you fucking mutant.

Seshmeister
10-05-2005, 04:37 AM
Originally posted by 4moreyears
Come on Ford, no link. Why is this not shut down? This could have come over in a liberal chain e-mail.


http://www.mediainfo.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001221205

There is a good website for checking things like this called google...

Nickdfresh
10-05-2005, 06:17 AM
U.S. White House briefing on terror threats of August 6, 2001
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._White_House_briefing_on_terror_threats_of_Aug ust_6,_2001).

The U.S. White House briefing on terror threats of August 6, 2001 is the briefing given to U.S. president George W. Bush and members of his administration by security agencies on that date, concerning terror threats from Osama bin Laden and others.

What follows is a redacted text of the presidential daily briefing from August 6, 2001, as picked up from FOXNews.com and CNN.com. As this is an official U.S. government document, and this is only the text of that document, without commentary, it is in the public domain. It is marked, "Declassified and Approved for Release, 10 April 2004":
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Text of the briefing

Bin Ladin Determined to Strike in U.S.

Clandestine, foreign government, and media reports indicate Bin Ladin since 1997 has wanted to conduct terrorist attacks in the US. Bin Ladin implied in US television interviews in 1997 and 1998 that his followers would follow the example of World Trade Center bomber Ramzi Yousef and "bring the fighting to America."

After US missile strikes on his base in Afghanistan in 1998, Bin Ladin told followers he wanted to retaliate in Washington, according to a [deleted text] service.

An Egyptian Islamic Jihad (EIJ) operative told an [deleted text] service at the same time that Bin Ladin was planning to exploit the operative's access to the US. to mount a terrorist strike.

The millennium plotting in Canada in 1999 may have been part of Bin Ladin's first serious attempt to implement a terrorist strike in the US. Convicted plotter Ahmed Ressam has told the FBI that he conceived the idea to attack Los Angeles International Airport himself, but that Bin Ladin lieutenant Abu Zubaydah encouraged him and helped facilitate the operation. Ressam also said that in 1998 Abu Zubaydah was planning his own US attack.

Ressam says Bin Ladin was aware of the Los Angeles operation.

Although Bin Ladin has not succeeded, his attacks against the US Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998 demonstrate that he prepares operations years in advance and is not deterred by setbacks. Bin Ladin associates surveilled our Embassies in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam as early as 1993, and some members of the Nairobi cell planning the bombings were arrested and deported in 1997.

Al-Qa'ida members—including some who are US citizens—have resided in or traveled to the US for years, and the group apparently maintains a support structure that could aid attacks. Two Al Qa'ida members found guilty in the conspiracy to bomb our Embassies in East Africa were US citizens, and a senior EIJ member lived in California in the mid-1990s.

A clandestine source said in 1998 that a Bin Ladin cell in New York was recruiting Muslim-American youth for attacks.

We have not been able to corroborate some of the more sensational threat reporting, such as that from a [deleted text] service in 1998 saying that Bin Ladin wanted to hijack a US aircraft to gain the release of "Blind Shaykh" 'Umar 'Abd al-Rahman [sic] and other US-held extremists.

—Nevertheless, FBI information since that time indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York.

The FBI is conducting approximately 70 full field investigations throughout the US that it considers Bin Ladin-related. CIA and the FBI are investigating a call to our embassy in the UAE in May saying that a group of Bin Ladin supporters was in the US planning attacks with explosives.

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Discussion

Some arguments have focused on clear warnings in this letter, specifically that:

* a large attack was planned
* the attack would be on United States soil
* target cities of attacks included New York City and Washington, D.C.
* the World Trade Center was explicitly mentioned
* hijacked plane missions were anticipated
* people living in, or traveling to, the United States were involved
* recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York was witnessed.

However, those arguing that warnings were not clear will note that:

* specific buildings were unknown
* specific dates were unknown
* specific airlines, flights, or planes were unknown
* the World Trade Center was mentioned in the context of following a 1993 example, not as a definite future target
* plane hijacking was mentioned in the context of freeing Shaykh Rahman, implying a hostage situation, not using the planes themselves as missiles.
* the Bin Laden supporters in the U.S. were thought to be planning attacks with explosives, as in all previous bombings by Al-Qaida
* the use of planes as missiles, while discussed before, had not been attempted by Al-Qaida

Possibly new revelations include the belief that Bin Laden operatives were trying to recruit young U.S. nationals for their operations, the statement by the White House that attempts at future attacks were expected (based on past attacks), and that Washington, D.C., and New York were specifically mentioned.

While specific hijacking times, and dates, and targets were unknown, critics charge that the administration did not take possible actions such as increased airport screening, and reinforcing cockpit doors, that may have minimized the lethality of the September 11 attacks, or even prevented them. The administration and its defenders respond that the memo did not give any new information about the threat that would warrant taking additional measures, since the fact that Bin Laden and other terrorists had wanted to strike inside the United States had been well-known for over 20 years.

Nickdfresh
10-05-2005, 06:21 AM
Originally posted by 4moreyears
Come on Ford, no link. Why is this not shut down? This could have come over in a liberal chain e-mail.

Jesus Christ, you're the biggest bitch on this forum...

Can you make three posts without mentioning FORD?

Cathedral
10-05-2005, 09:09 AM
Originally posted by 4moreyears
Come on Ford, no link. Why is this not shut down? This could have come over in a liberal chain e-mail.


Pssssssssst! It indicates it's an Associated Press release...

Bush is setting up the pawns for a great future Chess Match, no link though, because it's just my opinion, lmmfao.

I'm tellin' y'all now, no more candeedates by-name of Bush is allowed!

4moreyears
10-05-2005, 01:48 PM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Jesus Christ, you're the biggest bitch on this forum...

Can you make three posts without mentioning FORD?

I can mention you both faggot!!! I mean after all you suck Ford's dick pretty hard on the forum.

BigBadBrian
10-05-2005, 02:19 PM
Originally posted by Seshmeister
http://www.mediainfo.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001221205

There is a good website for checking things like this called google...


Yeah, no kidding...

I think 4moreyears was trying to make a point.

FORD never uses google when a conservative or someone posts something FORD doesn't like forgets a link.

He just closes the thread.

That's a simple fact.

Hardrock69
10-05-2005, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
Yeah, no kidding...

I think 4moreyears was trying to make a point.

FORD never uses google when a conservative or someone posts something FORD doesn't like forgets a link.

He just closes the thread.

That's a simple fact.

You would do no different....why is it that you make no attempt whatsoever to find a link to stories you don't like that are posted without one, hmmm?

Hypocrite...
::lol:

BigBadBrian
10-05-2005, 03:04 PM
Originally posted by Hardrock69
You would do know different....why is it that you make no attemtp whatsoever to find a link to stories you don't like that are posted without one, hmmm?

Hypocrite...
::lol:


"You would do know different" LMAO :D

Anyhow, I shouldn't have to go looking for the link, should I?

No, of couse not.

Hardrock69
10-05-2005, 03:14 PM
Then you have no reason to bitch.

FORD
10-05-2005, 03:22 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
Yeah, no kidding...

I think 4moreyears was trying to make a point.

FORD never uses google when a conservative or someone posts something FORD doesn't like forgets a link.

He just closes the thread.

That's a simple fact.

No, that's a fucking lie.

Half the shit YOU post never used to have links. But of course it was all PNAC stooge columns, so those are easy enough to track down.

As lame as those columns are, they are a published work of propaganda, not a random lie that some fucking idiot put out in a chain e-mail, which is 98% of what "4pointIQ" has posted in the past.

Cock should have linked this article, but there's no doubt that it came from a legitimate news source, given the AP references and other notations.

4moreyears
10-05-2005, 11:45 PM
Originally posted by FORD
No, that's a fucking lie.

Half the shit YOU post never used to have links. But of course it was all PNAC stooge columns, so those are easy enough to track down.

As lame as those columns are, they are a published work of propaganda, not a random lie that some fucking idiot put out in a chain e-mail, which is 98% of what "4pointIQ" has posted in the past.

Cock should have linked this article, but there's no doubt that it came from a legitimate news source, given the AP references and other notations.

Be consistant asshole

ELVIS
10-05-2005, 11:51 PM
Originally posted by FORD
No, that's a fucking lie.

No, that's a "fucking lie" !!

Half the shit YOU post never used to have links. But of course it was all PNAC stooge columns, so those are easy enough to track down.

Another "fucking lie" !!




:elvis:

LoungeMachine
10-06-2005, 01:07 AM
Originally posted by 4moreyears
Be consistant asshole

Yes. Indeed.

FORD should be more like you.

You are a "consistant asshole"


As Bri would say........



" Need a tissue?''

:rolleyes:

LoungeMachine
10-06-2005, 01:12 AM
Gee, heaven forbid we should actually delve into the FACTS surrounding the thread title.......


Bottom line is this fucking crony bitch has NO MORE right to be confirmed to the bench than ANYONE OF US do


Bernie, Brownie, ............FUUCCKKKKKKKKKK


God DAMN I hate this "pResident" and his cronies