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jacksmar
10-12-2005, 04:57 PM
While there are numerous examples of the commies side of Senator Joe McCarthy, here are some facts, actual facts.

Q. What was the gist of the Army-McCarthy Hearings?

A. On March 11, 1954, the Army accused Senator McCarthy and his staff of using improper means in seeking preferential treatment for G. David Schine, a consultant to McCarthy's committee, prior to and after Schine was drafted into the Army in November 1953. McCarthy countercharged that these allegations were made in bad faith and were designed to prevent his committee from continuing its probe of communist subversion at Fort Monmouth and from issuing subpoenas for members of the Army Loyalty and Screening Board. A special committee, under the chairmanship of Senator Karl Mundt, was appointed to adjudicate these conflicting charges, and the hearings opened on April 22, 1954.

The televised hearings lasted for 36 days and were viewed by an estimated 20 million people. After hearing 32 witnesses and two million words of testimony, the committee concluded that McCarthy himself had not exercised any improper influence in behalf of David Schine, but that Roy Cohn, McCarthy's chief counsel, had engaged in some "unduly persistent or aggressive efforts" in behalf of Schine. The committee also concluded that Army Secretary Robert Stevens and Army Counsel John Adams "made efforts to terminate or influence the investigation and hearings at Fort Monmouth," and that Adams "made vigorous and diligent efforts" to block subpoenas for members of the Army Loyalty and Screening Board "by means of personal appeal to certain members of the [McCarthy] committee."

In a separate statement that concurred with the special committee report, Senator Everett Dirksen demonstrated the weakness of the Army case by noting that the Army did not make its charges public until eight months after the first allegedly improper effort was made in behalf of Schine (July 1953), and then not until after Senator McCarthy had made it known (January 1954) that he would subpoena members of the Army Loyalty and Screening Board. Dirksen also called attention to a telephone conversation between Secretary Stevens and Senator Stuart Symington on March 8, 1954, three days before the Army allegations were made public. In that conversation, Stevens said that any charges of improper influence by McCarthy's staff "would prove to be very much exaggerated.... I am the Secretary and I have had some talks with the [McCarthy] committee and the chairman, and so on, and by and large as far as the treatment of me is concerned, I have no personal complaint."

In his 1984 book Who Killed Joe McCarthy?, former Eisenhower White House aide William Bragg Ewald Jr., who had access to many unpublished papers and memos from persons involved in the Army-McCarthy clash, confirms the good relations that existed between McCarthy and Stevens and the lack of pressure from McCarthy in behalf of Schine. In a phone conversation on November 7, 1953, McCarthy told Stevens not to give Schine any special treatment, such as putting him in the service and assigning him back to the committee. McCarthy even said that Roy Cohn had been "completely unreasonable" about Schine, that "he thinks Dave should be a general and work from the penthouse of the Waldorf."

Ewald also reported a phone conversation between Stevens and Assistant Secretary of Defense Fred Seaton on January 8, 1954, in which Stevens admitted that Schine might not have been drafted if he hadn't worked for the McCarthy Committee. "Of course, the kid was taken at the very last minute before he would have been ineligible for age," said Stevens. "He is 26, you know. My guess would be that if he hadn't been working for McCarthy, he probably never would have been drafted."

Another thing confirmed by Ewald was the secret meeting at the Justice Department on January 21, 1954, when a group of anti-McCarthyites came up with a plan to stop McCarthy either by asking the Republican members of his committee to talk him out of subpoenaing members of the Army Loyalty and Screening Board or, if that didn't work, by drawing up a list of alleged efforts on behalf of David Schine and threatening to make the list public unless McCarthy backed off.

Those at the January 21st meeting were Attorney General Herbert Brownell, U.S. Ambassador to the UN Henry Cabot Lodge, Deputy Attorney General William Rogers, White House Chief of Staff Sherman Adams, White House aide Gerald Morgan, and John Adams. After John Adams inadvertently mentioned this meeting during the Army-McCarthy Hearings, and McCarthy wanted to find out more about it, President Eisenhower issued an executive order on May 17, 1954 forbidding any employee of the Defense Department "to testify to any such conversations or communications or to produce any such documents or reproductions."

http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/1996/vo12no18/vo12no18_mccarthy.htm

Here's a book that contains more facts, actual facts.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316115894/102-3947654-9090569?v=glance&n=283155&v=glance

The new movie is slanted Michael Moore style and in typical Hollywood fashion, no research just more protection of their own.
There was a reason so many in Hollywood were duped.
The Hollywood leftists still have no clue.

Flame on.

Hardrock69
10-12-2005, 05:06 PM
I can see going after Commie Infiltrators and spies.

But when you begin to destroy innocent lives in the name of "Anti-Communism" that is taking it a bit too far.

Hell, Stalin had classified information about the Manhattan Project before the first A-Bomb was actually tested!

knuckleboner
10-12-2005, 05:35 PM
uh...then why, exactly did his own senate censure mccarthy?

Nickdfresh
10-12-2005, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by knuckleboner
uh...then why, exactly did his own senate censure mccarthy?

Because he was a liar, and a witch-hunter.


McCarthy
Joseph Raymond McCarthy

Born in a small, close-knit Irish farming community in Grand Chute, Wisconsin, on November 14, 1909, Joseph McCarthy dropped out of school at age 14. Six years later, he crammed a four-year high school program into one year and in 1930 was admitted to Marquette University. He received his law degree in 1935, and in 1939 was elected a Wisconsin circuit court judge. During World War II, McCarthy served as a lieutenant in the Marine Corps. In 1944, he lost a campaign for the U.S. Senate. His next try came two years later, when he challenged Sen. Robert M. LaFollette for the Republican nomination. He won, and in the fall became the junior senator from Wisconsin.

His early years in the Senate were unimpressive, but in 1949, with several U.S. Cold War setbacks and an increasingly anti-communist political atmosphere at home, McCarthy found a cause. In February 1950, in Wheeling, West Virginia, he made the first of a series of claims that he had the names of "known communists" who were in the employ of the State Department. It was the beginning of a personal witch hunt for communists in the government that lasted for more than five years. McCarthy rarely provided any solid evidence to back up his claims, but in the political climate of the time his accusations and subsequent investigations nonetheless ended many a career and damaged a good number of lives.

After winning re-election in 1952, McCarthy became chairman of the Permanent Investigations Subcommittee, a position he used to launch many of his investigations of government officials and agencies. He did not shy away from questioning the integrity of people such as George C. Marshall, or even President Eisenhower. The latter disliked McCarthy intensely but refused to "get in the gutter with him" and never denounced the senator publicly. However, by 1953 a seemingly out-of-control McCarthy was making many enemies. His investigation of the activities of an Army dentist, Maj. Irving Peress, eventually led to his downfall. In 1954, the Army launched its counterattack, charging that McCarthy was seeking preferential treatment for a consultant, David Schine, who in 1953 had been drafted into the Army. Eventually McCarthy's own subcommittee decided to hold hearings on the matter, the Army-McCarthy hearings. The televised hearings fully exposed McCarthy as irresponsible and dishonest. In December 1954, the Senate voted to censure him. McCarthy never repented, but he quickly descended into irrelevance and alcoholism. He died of a liver ailment in Bethesda, Maryland, on May 2, 1957, at age 47.

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/cold.war/kbank/profiles/mccarthy/

LOL, I can't believe anybody would actually give this dick bag drunk any kind of credit. Not one accusation resulted in a conviction, and he ruined the lives of many people that were not communists and had done nothing anti-American.

FORD
10-12-2005, 06:02 PM
Be sure to join us next week for "Adolph Hitler : what a swell guy!" :rolleyes:

Nickdfresh
10-12-2005, 06:07 PM
Oh, BTW, McCarthy was accused of being a homosexual in 1952 by a Las Vegas newspaper columist (he wasn't married at age 43). Curiously, he never filed a suit for libel despite publicly considering doing so....

http://www.nndb.com/people/490/000051337/

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No wonder why they called him "Tailgunner Joe!" Uhuhuhuhuh!

Hardrock69
10-13-2005, 10:33 AM
Joe Thudner's hero...a homo idiot asshole cocksucker.

FORD
10-13-2005, 10:56 AM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Oh, BTW, McCarthy was accused of being a homosexual in 1952 by a Las Vegas newspaper columist (he wasn't married at age 43). Curiously, he never filed a suit for libel despite publicly considering doing so....

http://www.nndb.com/people/490/000051337/

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No wonder why they called him "Tailgunner Joe!" Uhuhuhuhuh!

His partner in fascism (and perhaps other things) Roy Cohn certainly was .